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March 03, 2016, 05:49:12 AM
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WTS several masternodes worth of coins, pm if interested.

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March 03, 2016, 06:04:18 AM
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No need to change the amount of coins. People suggesting that just want to dump at a higher price.

No, relative to the distribution schedule of other coins it seems high for that period of time, so it's about competition.

"Competition between currency will ultimately guarantee decentralisation and its best for end users"
from comment thread by vbuterin on /r/btc
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/48gxbh/vitalik_buterin_on_twitter_cryptocurrency/d0jki4r

"we may see different cryptocurrencies choosing different points in political tradeoff space, including adjusting the governance model, consensus algorithm, money supply, fee policy, etc, and this may end up making consumers happier as their individual preferences can be better satisfied. If we want to maintain maximum network effects in this environment, then the best choice is to let the cities bloom separately and simply build fast planes and trains - ie. optimally efficient cross-chain transaction infrastructure such as btcrelay, shapeshift, etc."

see http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=762 for further discussion
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March 03, 2016, 06:29:16 AM
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With another 49M coins to be distributed over the next 5 months is going to see the price of this coin at 200 sat.

By cutting the total to around 20M it would relieve the mining dumps and give this coin a chance to fly as it rightly deserves so.

By cutting the supply we all benefit.

























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March 03, 2016, 07:10:13 AM
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With another 49M coins to be distributed over the next 5 months is going to see the price of this coin at 200 sat.

By cutting the total to around 20M it would relieve the mining dumps and give this coin a chance to fly as it rightly deserves so.

By cutting the supply we all benefit.

I would also support a cut in supply although by reduction in PoW.

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March 03, 2016, 07:20:45 AM
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With another 49M coins to be distributed over the next 5 months is going to see the price of this coin at 200 sat.

By cutting the total to around 20M it would relieve the mining dumps and give this coin a chance to fly as it rightly deserves so.

By cutting the supply we all benefit.

I could not agree more!

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March 03, 2016, 09:33:17 AM
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Request for reducing of PoW block reward and/or max supply always comes up during PoW phase for so many coins when it starts to do well.
But reducing max coin supply doesn't miraculously make every coin be worth more without an increase in distribution and userbase.
Also, having some mining (including auto-sell) actually allows for a constant flow of new coin sales that new investors can buy.

Personally, I think reducing the block reward to reduce daily sell pressure is okay though but not compulsory. (e.g. maybe from 250 to 50)
Then just increase PoW period by same factor. So 50 million extra coins minted over the next 25 months not 5 months. (just an example)


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March 03, 2016, 09:41:12 AM
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Ok, now we have two opposing opinions. Only way to find which one is supported more is to vote.
I think we should vote in two rounds:
1. Community votes for decreasing of supply generally.
2. If majority says "yes" in first round we chose which specific plan of decreasing supply we want.

Our community is not so big right now so voting for 1 week per round is enough.

I'm not speaking english good enough to write all advantages of reward decreasing to make a post, which will be linked in proposal. I'm asking somebody to write this post. And i can't find info in this thread and on DASH forum how to make a proposal. Could anyone give link to this info?
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March 03, 2016, 09:44:38 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 10:20:24 AM by jakiman
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And i can't find info in this thread and on DASH forum how to make a proposal. Could anyone give link to this info?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg14012780#msg14012780

Devs - Maybe we should have "How to create MN proposals & vote" section on the OP?

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March 03, 2016, 10:21:31 AM
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Now is block 44 444. Total coins supply is 11 111k + 60k premine (which will be destroyed).
Last block of POW is 259200, when supply will be 64 800k.
I suggest to cut POW rewards by half at block 59 200, then at blocks 109 200, 159 200, 209 200 (every 50k blocks or 34-35 days).

Blocks 1 - 59 200:
POW reward: 250 DNET
Total supply: 14 800 000

Blocks 59 201 - 109 200:
POW reward: 125 DNET
Total supply: 21 050 000

Blocks 109 201 - 159 200
POW reward: 62.5 DNET
Total supply: 24 175 000

Blocks 159 201 - 209 200:
POW reward: 31.25 DNET
Total supply: 25 735 500

Blocks 209 201 - 259 200
POW reward: 15.625 DNET
Total supply: 26 518 750

Maybe we can even start POS phase at block 209 200.
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March 03, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
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lo guys,
i have set up 3 masternodes, "overall" : "Successfully started 3 masternodes, failed to start 0, total 3",

Im not seeing any rewards from running them though. How can i test they are working ok?
How often to rewards come in on average?

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March 03, 2016, 11:12:38 AM
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lo guys,
i have set up 3 masternodes, "overall" : "Successfully started 3 masternodes, failed to start 0, total 3",

Im not seeing any rewards from running them though. How can i test they are working ok?
How often to rewards come in on average?

After starting them for the first time, it could take 12 to 24 hours for first payments to come through.
Then it'll be more frequent and at a more steady rate depending on how many MN you have running.

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March 03, 2016, 11:16:32 AM
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After starting them for the first time, it could take 12 to 24 hours for first payments to come through.
Then it'll be more frequent and at a more steady rate depending on how many MN you have running.

Ok cool, i have 3 up so hopefully will see something nice soon Smiley

i last question...

Number of connections 8 (In: 0 / Out: 8 )

Does this indicate my port closed for incoming? Or is this because they are new nodes?
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March 03, 2016, 11:22:00 AM
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Im not seeing any rewards from running them though. How can i test they are working ok?

Type "masternode list-conf" in console.
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March 03, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
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Type "masternode list-conf" in console.

"status" : "ENABLED"
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March 03, 2016, 11:49:56 AM
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We have spoken with a VPS Hosting company to come up with a Low Cost Masternode Option for Darknet. When you Purchase your Node Hosting, it will come with Darknet Daemons pre-installed so all you have to do is configure your darknet.conf file with your random rpcuser/rpcpassword and your masternode key.. Smiley

$1.50 a month is an Excellent deal

http://my.mp-hosting.co.uk/cart.php?gid=8

Never set up a masternode before.  Will my coins be secure if I run MNs on a service like this?
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March 03, 2016, 11:58:23 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 12:29:23 PM by jakiman
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Okay. To get the balls rolling for the reduced max coin supply and/or decreasing, here are the proposals that can be voted by masternode owners.
Thanks to kokokoin for providing a template to go by. So first proposal is what kokokoin proposed. Second is a less aggressive model for variety.

Both provide at least 2.5x or 3.5x the current coin supply (respectively) at end of PoW. So it still increases by a fair bit.
Still keeping 4 more months of PoW while generating less auto-sell pressure & lessen daily inflation during PoW phase.

Feel free to vote, provide feedback and/or make proposals of your own.
They are my first attempt at proposal creation. Was a good practice. Smiley

Proposal #1
- Name: PoWRewardReduction1
- Variable PoW block reward halving every 50k blocks (approx every 34 days)
- Coin Supply During PoW Phase: 26 518 750

Blocks 1 - 59 200:
POW reward: 250 DNET
Total supply: 14 800 000

Blocks 59 201 - 109 200:
POW reward: 125 DNET
Total supply: 21 050 000

Blocks 109 201 - 159 200
POW reward: 62.5 DNET
Total supply: 24 175 000

Blocks 159 201 - 209 200:
POW reward: 31.25 DNET
Total supply: 25 735 500

Blocks 209 201 - 259 200
POW reward: 15.625 DNET
Total supply: 26 518 750

To vote in favor = "mnbudget vote f6c17c059a6cc173d13f8a851b6408e1a2129d1ced040e46c7689a0a5a9bca42 yes"
To vote against = "mnbudget vote f6c17c059a6cc173d13f8a851b6408e1a2129d1ced040e46c7689a0a5a9bca42 no"
(use 'vote-many' instead of 'vote' to vote using all your MN at once via controller wallet)

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"PoWRewardReduction1" : {
        "Name" : "PoWRewardReduction1",
        "URL" : "bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg14082472#msg14082472",
        "Hash" : "f6c17c059a6cc173d13f8a851b6408e1a2129d1ced040e46c7689a0a5a9bca42",
        "FeeHash" : "8498541b71ca65dc7daa840c7c1f4d37e7c25c507844a3a33248ccd046cfaa6d",
        "BlockStart" : 43200,
        "BlockEnd" : 108000,
        "TotalPaymentCount" : 1,
        "RemainingPaymentCount" : 0,
        "PaymentAddress" : "DMAUefC1YXGtoQDxMxTcHmf9JQUK5MLsa7",
        "Ratio" : 0.00000000,
        "Yeas" : 0,
        "Nays" : 0,
        "Abstains" : 0,
        "TotalPayment" : 10.00000000,
        "MonthlyPayment" : 10.00000000,
        "IsEstablished" : false,
        "IsValid" : true,
        "IsValidReason" : "",
        "fValid" : true
    },

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March 03, 2016, 12:00:27 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 12:29:41 PM by jakiman
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Proposal #2
- Name: PoWRewardReduction2
- Variable PoW block reward reducing by 50 every 50k blocks (approx every 34 days)
- Coin Supply During PoW Phase: 39 800 000

Blocks 1 - 59 200:
POW reward: 250 DNET
Total supply: 14 800 000

Blocks 59 201 - 109 200:
POW reward: 200 DNET
Total supply: 24 800 000

Blocks 109 201 - 159 200
POW reward: 150 DNET
Total supply: 32 300 000

Blocks 159 201 - 209 200:
POW reward: 100 DNET
Total supply: 37 300 000

Blocks 209 201 - 259 200
POW reward: 50 DNET
Total supply: 39 800 000

To vote in favor = "mnbudget vote ce4d6c02169d85bd86eaf7fc545c639093a0ad95891f36d0e9ce90ecc7aabff4 yes"
To vote against = "mnbudget vote ce4d6c02169d85bd86eaf7fc545c639093a0ad95891f36d0e9ce90ecc7aabff4 no"
(use 'vote-many' instead of 'vote' to vote using all your MN at once via controller wallet)

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"PoWRewardReduction2" : {
        "Name" : "PoWRewardReduction2",
        "URL" : "bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1262920.msg14082492#msg14082492",
        "Hash" : "ce4d6c02169d85bd86eaf7fc545c639093a0ad95891f36d0e9ce90ecc7aabff4",
        "FeeHash" : "9f818fb33e46ff0e0ff789f1ef677bf1302ce0e7c888ea434b54f0e8cda711c8",
        "BlockStart" : 43200,
        "BlockEnd" : 108000,
        "TotalPaymentCount" : 1,
        "RemainingPaymentCount" : 0,
        "PaymentAddress" : "DMAUefC1YXGtoQDxMxTcHmf9JQUK5MLsa7",
        "Ratio" : 0.00000000,
        "Yeas" : 0,
        "Nays" : 0,
        "Abstains" : 0,
        "TotalPayment" : 10.00000000,
        "MonthlyPayment" : 10.00000000,
        "IsEstablished" : false,
        "IsValid" : true,
        "IsValidReason" : "",
        "fValid" : true
    }

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March 03, 2016, 12:09:11 PM
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UPDATED DNET ROADMAP:

Step 1: Get listed by Bittrex.
Step 2: Cut coin supply.
Step 3: Change algo.
Step 4: Start dumpfest.
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March 03, 2016, 12:16:11 PM
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UPDATED DNET ROADMAP:

Step 1: Get listed by Bittrex.
Step 2: Cut coin supply.
Step 3: Change algo.
Step 4: Start dumpfest.

*pumpfest
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March 03, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
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5000 sats soon? I dont know.
Let's hold hands and pray.
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