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December 05, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
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I was wondering if you could have an option to sell the bets maybe something like the other bookmaker's feature? I find that useful at some point when there's a feeling that I'm going to lose.
It's not present in a regular sportsbook, most popular sportsbook here does not offer that, I think we call that betting exchange.

A few other books using the same odds provider (Sportsbet.io, Stake, Wink, etc) do have a cashout option so it should be very possible for Bitsler to add the feature if they wanted to.
I noticed it too. I really think they should also have this option I sometimes made a mistake in placing a bet and this kind of feature would really help me at least not to bust out all of my bets. I'm good with a little reduction.

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My bad, I didn't notice the link at the very bottom of the sidebar. It doesn't seem like there's explicit mention of Asian Handicap rules so imo if support told Bitcoinsummoner one thing that wasn't described elsewhere, it's probably the fault of support.


To be honest Bitsler have an "ok" support team, but there are lots of room for improvement. Based on my past inquiries with live support, I would recommend Thomas as he seem to be the best or one of the best in that department.

@Bitcoinsummoner

I guess it would be best to ask Gab? Sorry, I'm not even familiar with the asian-handicap ; as a matter of fact, I thought this is crazy racist term for paralympics held in Asia. lol

Regardless, if support is misleading players (even unintentionally), and stating rules not mentioned elsewhere that have a significant effect on the actual bet, I feel like that's on Bitsler. Generally you'd expect customer support to provide accurate information.

How live Asian Handicaps work on a lot of sportsbooks (and what support supposedly told Bitcoinsummoner) is that they ignore the current score, so if the score was 2-1, and a -0.5 asian handicap was offered on the home team, it's is a "real" -1.5 handicap since the handicap would be relative to the initial score of 2-1.

Well to clear this up, I'm in contact with bitsler support right now. I have Gustavo, and I asked that he personally explain this stuff coz it is not something I can answer with accuracy.

- let us wait for an official statement from them.  Smiley

I directed Isildur to this issue when I saw him on Eng chat yesterday, he said he will look for whoever is knowledgeable with this.
Hope it gets sorted soon, as I got myself into it.

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also he also said he fix cables now. xD

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December 09, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
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My bad, I didn't notice the link at the very bottom of the sidebar. It doesn't seem like there's explicit mention of Asian Handicap rules so imo if support told Bitcoinsummoner one thing that wasn't described elsewhere, it's probably the fault of support.


To be honest Bitsler have an "ok" support team, but there are lots of room for improvement. Based on my past inquiries with live support, I would recommend Thomas as he seem to be the best or one of the best in that department.

@Bitcoinsummoner

I guess it would be best to ask Gab? Sorry, I'm not even familiar with the asian-handicap ; as a matter of fact, I thought this is crazy racist term for paralympics held in Asia. lol

Regardless, if support is misleading players (even unintentionally), and stating rules not mentioned elsewhere that have a significant effect on the actual bet, I feel like that's on Bitsler. Generally you'd expect customer support to provide accurate information.

How live Asian Handicaps work on a lot of sportsbooks (and what support supposedly told Bitcoinsummoner) is that they ignore the current score, so if the score was 2-1, and a -0.5 asian handicap was offered on the home team, it's is a "real" -1.5 handicap since the handicap would be relative to the initial score of 2-1.

Well to clear this up, I'm in contact with bitsler support right now. I have Gustavo, and I asked that he personally explain this stuff coz it is not something I can answer with accuracy.

- let us wait for an official statement from them.  Smiley

I directed Isildur to this issue when I saw him on Eng chat yesterday, he said he will look for whoever is knowledgeable with this.
Hope it gets sorted soon, as I got myself into it.

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also he also said he fix cables now. xD

a. The sport rules can be located here: https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/rules.
b. Just like pre-match bets and bets on Asian totals all goals count for bets on Asian Handicaps. This is industry standard.

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December 09, 2020, 06:47:42 PM
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a. The sport rules can be located here: https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/rules.
b. Just like pre-match bets and bets on Asian totals all goals count for bets on Asian Handicaps. This is industry standard.

For an industry standard, you'd expect major books like bet365, Pinnacle, SBObet to use said standard. They don't. (it does vary by book, but it's definitely wrong to call it industry standard).

Anyway, the issue here isn't whether it's industry standard or not; Bitsler is free to have whatever option they want. The issue here is that Bitsler's support lied to Bitcoinsummoner, presumably causing him to lose money.

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a. The sport rules can be located here: https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/rules.
b. Just like pre-match bets and bets on Asian totals all goals count for bets on Asian Handicaps. This is industry standard.

For an industry standard, you'd expect major books like bet365, Pinnacle, SBObet to use said standard. They don't. (it does vary by book, but it's definitely wrong to call it industry standard).

Anyway, the issue here isn't whether it's industry standard or not; Bitsler is free to have whatever option they want. The issue here is that Bitsler's support lied to Bitcoinsummoner, presumably causing him to lose money.

One could argue that support and bitcoinsummoner may have had a conversation which unfortunately had some language gap(some of the former support representative, in my opinion, is kind of a challenge to deal with). I personally have given them feedback, which I did not to ridicule but to let them know they have done quite a poor customer assistance. From my observation, these last 2 instances that I have contacted support, I think Bitsler have changed their customer representatives. Not that it will do any good for Bitcoinsummoner's experience, but for the better future player experience in Bitsler.


This is just my spammy opinion.


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I have never seen anyone here get that. ~snipped
Anyone from here got it? ~snipped
Seven 7s bet: 42475618886 - $1.23 wager resulting in a $42000 Jackpot at the time.

afaik it means that it was not full 7s.
Jackpot information: To win the maximum JP prizes, the bet must be $10 worth in any cryptocurrency. If the bet is smaller, you get a share based on your bet amount ~snipped
So because the bet was less than $10, the payout was 12.5%.
If his bet was $10 then he would've won around 30 BTC resulting in $341000 at the time.

Perhaps, Bitsler could clarify on this and we can move on onto other casino's related discussion.
Indonesia isn't a restricted territory as seen in our Terms of Service: Section 6.2.2. ISP usage/restrictions is however is completely out of our control and the ISP needs to be enquired about why access is being denied.

chatbox doesn't appear at first but it comes back in a few seconds. ~snipped
Gear icon > Auto-Open Chat Option > deselect | Should at least help with it not reappearing again.

I also want to request that the dice game be sounded as well.
I've gone ahead and added your suggestion to the suggestion list.

How long before you close an account that have no activity?
Terms of Service:  section 15, 12 months.

would you able to add a virtual sports on your website? i'm into virtual sports lately and i find them really entertaining and profitable. also i agree to zidan about the live match on esports specifically in CSGO i really enjoy watching live while placing bets too.
I've gone ahead and added your suggestion to the suggestion list.

it's definitely wrong to call it industry standard ~snipped
The issue here is that Bitsler's support lied to Bitcoinsummoner, presumably causing him to lose money.
Actually, all the crypto sportsbooks I'm aware of do it this way. Concerning Bitcoinsummoner, I'll have look into the conversations as I'm not sure what was said between him/her/other and support. I don't think money was lost seeing as though the bet was refunded but I digress, should reach a resolve/explanation that is satisfactory to everyone pretty soon.



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December 10, 2020, 06:18:29 PM
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it's definitely wrong to call it industry standard ~snipped
The issue here is that Bitsler's support lied to Bitcoinsummoner, presumably causing him to lose money.
Actually, all the crypto sportsbooks I'm aware of do it this way. Concerning Bitcoinsummoner, I'll have look into the conversations as I'm not sure what was said between him/her/other and support. I don't think money was lost seeing as though the bet was refunded but I digress, should reach a resolve/explanation that is satisfactory to everyone pretty soon.

If they got refunded, I don't know why I'm even arguing this  Tongue
Thanks for properly dealing with it! FWIW Sportsbet.io and BetBTC both do it the other way, but the majority definitely do take previous scoring into account.

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December 11, 2020, 02:00:25 AM
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The 96 hours soccer Promo is back!

Bitsler Soccer tournament is back!! Join and grab your share of a 1000$ prize pool in just 96 hours!! details here:https://forum.bitsler.com/topic/view/ab52c65265/weekly-bitsler-soccer-league


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The 96 hours soccer Promo is back!
I had my best betting last week but there was no promo. I felt cheated Grin

Kidding aside, it's nice to have it back. I'm still wondering why there's no event for International club competitions. There are plenty of matches to choose from in the Champions League and Europa League.

One more thing, I haven't seen a Christmas themed promotion. No plans?
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I can't login anymore. I was playing and suddenly the site was very laggy and after refreshing I can't login anymore. Other users experience the same?



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December 11, 2020, 07:53:49 AM
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I can't login anymore. I was playing and suddenly the site was very laggy and after refreshing I can't login anymore. Other users experience the same?
I browsed the site well, I did not have any problems logging in.  Have you encountered an error, what does it say?  Maybe it's just your net connection issue.

Kidding aside, it's nice to have it back. I'm still wondering why there's no event for International club competitions. There are plenty of matches to choose from in the Champions League and Europa League.

One more thing, I haven't seen a Christmas themed promotion. No plans?
Yes, why don't they have Christmas themed promos and events yet?  Meanwhile, almost all the casinos here started on the first day of December.

The Champions League just ended yesterday.  The EPL, on the other hand, will begin tomorrow the 12th round with 38 matchdays. LaLiga is also available in their market.

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I can't login anymore. I was playing and suddenly the site was very laggy and after refreshing I can't login anymore. Other users experience the same?
We experienced a small server issue earlier. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I'm still wondering why there's no event for International club competitions. There are plenty of matches to choose from in the Champions League and Europa League.
Champions League and Europe League group stage is done now, however we will offer odds for the next matches on Monday after the draw takes place!

One more thing, I haven't seen a Christmas themed promotion. No plans?
Yes, why don't they have Christmas themed promos and events yet?  Meanwhile, almost all the casinos here started on the first day of December.
I assume the promotion(s) will probably happen within the week of Christmas, hence why nothing mentioned yet.

Thanks for properly dealing with it! FWIW Sportsbet.io and BetBTC both do it the other way, but the majority definitely do take previous scoring into account.
Sounds like are both industry standards. So either way doesn't necessarily negate the other way, but rather they are 1 of 2 options of which both are the industry standard.
Feels like we are both saying the same thing and the miscommunication is due to thinking one negates the other which I don't think is the case (ofc I'm open for more discussion on this).
The important thing is to have this more visible to avoid confusion on the off chance someone is used to the other way. I really want everyone to be aware of things like this especially if it causes confusion which isn't our intent, even if it's only to a few, and that's why we've decided that we'll add this in the rules section as well seeing as we really want everyone to be happy.
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December 11, 2020, 10:28:32 AM
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Lagging can sometimes happen. That is inevitable. If a site has to do with maintenance there may be a delay. Then it is also the responsibility of the player that he does not consciously bet on a quotation that a customer knows cannot be correct. A player should also be honest to the bookmaker in my opinion.
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December 11, 2020, 12:10:42 PM
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I can't login anymore. I was playing and suddenly the site was very laggy and after refreshing I can't login anymore. Other users experience the same?
We experienced a small server issue earlier. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Ok well it didn't took that long. After 15 minutes I was able to login again and everything worked well again.



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December 11, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
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I can't login anymore. I was playing and suddenly the site was very laggy and after refreshing I can't login anymore. Other users experience the same?
We experienced a small server issue earlier. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Ok well it didn't took that long. After 15 minutes I was able to login again and everything worked well again.

I think that was just a little server error I was not able to experience it since I just woke up and based on what I experience I think it's already fixed now. I got lucky on the blackjack anyway I got pretty lucky with that game.

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Thanks for properly dealing with it! FWIW Sportsbet.io and BetBTC both do it the other way, but the majority definitely do take previous scoring into account.
Sounds like are both industry standards. So either way doesn't necessarily negate the other way, but rather they are 1 of 2 options of which both are the industry standard.
Feels like we are both saying the same thing and the miscommunication is due to thinking one negates the other which I don't think is the case (ofc I'm open for more discussion on this).
The important thing is to have this more visible to avoid confusion on the off chance someone is used to the other way. I really want everyone to be aware of things like this especially if it causes confusion which isn't our intent, even if it's only to a few, and that's why we've decided that we'll add this in the rules section as well seeing as we really want everyone to be happy.
Additionally, I'll see if I can get you and Bitcoinsummoner some coupon/bounty/prize seeing as though we're adding it to rules, as thanks for the feedback/suggestion that will be used (I'll PM both of you when this matter is resolved completely).

All good, I just wanted to make sure that players weren't harmed because of this misunderstanding. Thanks for your willingness to respond & take actions!

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I'm still wondering why there's no event for International club competitions. There are plenty of matches to choose from in the Champions League and Europa League.
Champions League and Europe League group stage is done now, however we will offer odds for the next matches on Monday after the draw takes place!
Yes, I'm well aware that the group stage was already over when I asked that. What I'm trying to say is that there was no event/promotion held during group stage and it seems there's no plan for round of 32 (Europa League) and round of 16 (Champions league). The weekly soccer league only covers local competitions from different leagues but I think that can also be done for international competitions. That's a combined 24 games and it's going to be a two-legged tie from what I know.

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Thanks for properly dealing with it! FWIW Sportsbet.io and BetBTC both do it the other way, but the majority definitely do take previous scoring into account.
Sounds like are both industry standards. So either way doesn't necessarily negate the other way, but rather they are 1 of 2 options of which both are the industry standard.
Feels like we are both saying the same thing and the miscommunication is due to thinking one negates the other which I don't think is the case (ofc I'm open for more discussion on this).
The important thing is to have this more visible to avoid confusion on the off chance someone is used to the other way. I really want everyone to be aware of things like this especially if it causes confusion which isn't our intent, even if it's only to a few, and that's why we've decided that we'll add this in the rules section as well seeing as we really want everyone to be happy.
Additionally, I'll see if I can get you and Bitcoinsummoner some coupon/bounty/prize seeing as though we're adding it to rules, as thanks for the feedback/suggestion that will be used (I'll PM both of you when this matter is resolved completely).

All good, I just wanted to make sure that players weren't harmed because of this misunderstanding. Thanks for your willingness to respond & take actions!

Now go back to fixing cables Isildur!

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December 15, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
Last edit: December 15, 2020, 01:16:14 PM by Isildur (official)
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I'm just throwing some ideas here. It's up to the Bitsler team if they'll take it. ~snipped
I've gone ahead and added your suggestion(s) to the suggestion list. (thank you for the feedback)

Update 1:
I checked the conversation between Bitcoinsummoner and support, and seems that the info provided was accurate after talking to our sports manager. I consider this as fully resolved now.

Update 2 concerning previous questions:
*Resolved: often bets are stuck and pending for hours without a reason
**To-do: sometimes the odds are not available for good events
*Resolved: the settlement of bets needs to be worked upon
**To-do: feautre to change/sell/withdraw/cashout/cancel bets once it's been placed
*Resolved: I observed there are a lot of upcoming game on bitsler but when reach in play time/live it goes away.
*Resolved: on goal section they have only 2 option both team teams to score yes/no. In few game there might have few additional.
*Resolved: Promotions like all other sportsbook offer because really it feels strange betting with no promo because everyone is offering something like NBA and UFC but here no promotions are being offered yet
*Resolved: 'won' the game on the 15th minute but still there was not the game. Then I contacted on support they told me to wait until end the game
*Resolved: limit is just too low compared to other sites
*Resolved: Grading: Sometimes the bets are pending for hours even after the event has ended.
*Resolved: soccer of Japan and panama match. I checked on that time there was no socer live on bitsler. While a lot of game was ongoing on other sites. improvements especially on the section of soccer.
*Resolved: sometimes in live betting, the odds are suspended while it's offered on other sportsbook
*Resolved: slower in updating their MMA events.

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*Resolved = Fixed, considered to be out of our control, restricted by odds provider, no further updates planned currently.
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