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December 06, 2012, 06:44:30 AM
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Joyous moments for some here, again, BFL ain't shipping a thing till somewhere in January, as it seems now.
Surprise?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/492-good-news-good-read.html

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As Debbie from BFL wrote in her last Mail:
We had originally hoped to be shipping by now, but unfortunately, we are still waiting for some parts to come in. We are working to start shipping orders before the end of the year.

You could anticipate your order shipping sometime in February or March. If they are ready sooner, we will ship them sooner.
We appreciate your patience as we are working to bring you the latest in mining technology.

Happy X-mas 😢

Certainly, the order number is not mentioned. But the January date does not sound incorrect at all.

Called it.

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You know what is really absurd about this situation?

The vendor with the longest release schedule is now the earliest when compared to the other 2.

that what happens when you second-guess.
i was going to preorder with avalon.

oh well.

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December 06, 2012, 07:55:59 AM
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Joyous moments for some here, again, BFL ain't shipping a thing till somewhere in January, as it seems now.
Surprise?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/492-good-news-good-read.html

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As Debbie from BFL wrote in her last Mail:
We had originally hoped to be shipping by now, but unfortunately, we are still waiting for some parts to come in. We are working to start shipping orders before the end of the year.

You could anticipate your order shipping sometime in February or March. If they are ready sooner, we will ship them sooner.
We appreciate your patience as we are working to bring you the latest in mining technology.

Happy X-mas 😢

Certainly, the order number is not mentioned. But the January date does not sound incorrect at all.

Called it.

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We plan to begin shipping at the end of this month and in January. If we don't hear from you, we will assume that you want your original order to stand as originally submitted.

Thank you,
Debbie


I received this email earlier yesterday regarding an upgrade to a Little Single I haven't paid for yet. The reason why I haven't done it yet is because I'm so freaking confused from all of their dates they keep releasing about when they will actually ship. I think someone is full of shit if you ask me. Just sayin

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December 06, 2012, 08:00:20 AM
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Joyous moments for some here, again, BFL ain't shipping a thing till somewhere in January, as it seems now.
Surprise?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/492-good-news-good-read.html

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As Debbie from BFL wrote in her last Mail:
We had originally hoped to be shipping by now, but unfortunately, we are still waiting for some parts to come in. We are working to start shipping orders before the end of the year.

You could anticipate your order shipping sometime in February or March. If they are ready sooner, we will ship them sooner.
We appreciate your patience as we are working to bring you the latest in mining technology.

Happy X-mas 😢

Certainly, the order number is not mentioned. But the January date does not sound incorrect at all.

Called it.

 Cool

We plan to begin shipping at the end of this month and in January. If we don't hear from you, we will assume that you want your original order to stand as originally submitted.

Thank you,
Debbie


I received this email earlier yesterday regarding an upgrade to a Little Single I haven't paid for yet. The reason why I haven't done it yet is because I'm so freaking confused from all of their dates they keep releasing about when they will actually ship. I think someone is full of shit if you ask me. Just sayin

I can't possibly understand why you would be confused.  Isn't it as clear as glass to you?

They'll either be shipped in/on October, November, December 11th, end of December, January, February, or March lol


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December 06, 2012, 08:06:10 AM
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They'll either be shipped in/on October, November, December 11th, end of December, January, February, or March lol


Exactly.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/

According to this article they will start shipping in "early 2013".

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December 06, 2012, 08:09:03 AM
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I'm not sending any ASIC vendors another bitcent until I see some evidence of progress...and that goes double for BFL. I haven't a clue what's going on with that weirdo company.

lol, it's probably just ONE guy in his pajamas manufacturing the illusion of an entire company. Grin

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December 06, 2012, 08:10:38 AM
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They'll either be shipped in/on October, November, December 11th, end of December, January, February, or March lol


Exactly.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/

According to this article they will start shipping in "early 2013".
The article should be renamed to "Custom chips might be on the shelves in a Bitcoin gold rush."

@ Nolo
Hilarious, that covers like 2 entire quarters of a year. That is one hell of a spread for a release date...
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December 06, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
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I am pissed that the chick would even have the nerve to try and sucker me for my money by throwing in the words that they "are planning on shipping at the end of the month"! I keep thinking about how when they still need some of your money they will insist that the product is coming sooner than when someone is asking about the product they've already paid for. Hence the December/January shipping date I got, vs the later date others have been given when they've already paid in full.

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December 06, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
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I'm not sending any ASIC vendors another bitcent until I see some evidence of progress...and that goes double for BFL. I haven't a clue what's going on with that weirdo company.

lol, it's probably just ONE guy in his pajamas manufacturing the illusion of an entire company. Grin

I would be more confident in saying that about the other companies. Surprisingly BFL is the only company that has issued some grain of proof that they have made progress on ASIC-based devices (besides possibly regurgitated information). Even a few month ago they showed the preliminary PCB designs. Two versions of the new cases have also been photographed and posted as well. Yes, I know they don't have ASIC chips, somehow you always will mention that, but I do believe they have provided more proof than other companies.
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December 06, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
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For the millionth time, they're quoting a date for customers that are ordering TODAY. Please stop purposely obfuscating the argument by swapping estimated initial delivery with estimated current delivery.

And I checked the bASIC forum again, and I'm becoming more and more positive that my assumption is correct: bASIC has nothing. Nothing at all.

"People have brought up the subject of the pci-e vs. molex connector and it's a valid question, this will be one of the first decisions TheSeven will make once he is brought into the loop and receives the engineering packet"

"I received a couple of packets of information from the design team, including rudimentary diagrams and datasheets on stuff like heat sinks and BGA packages.
All kinds of stuff which I am sifting through as we speak - we will have some of the most requested information live as soon as possible."

They refuse to answer any direct questions about whether they have their ASIC chips in hand. They don't even know how they'll power the device yet. They just offered to show everyone a block diagram of the device. They just hired new staff because the concept of power consumption was too confusing for their other hired guns. They're just now looking at datasheets for components. They have nothing.

It's looking like a photo finish between BFL and Avalon.

I'm just going to keep repeating "it's an Altera HardCopy" because I haven't the slightest clue what I'm talking about.
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December 06, 2012, 02:35:12 PM
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For the millionth time, they're quoting a date for customers that are ordering TODAY. Please stop purposely obfuscating the argument by swapping estimated initial delivery with estimated current delivery.
I believe the author of that post clarified that it was for an order in the 8000s, which would place it in mid-September sometime.
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"happy X-mas" was my personal opinion - not by Debbie

and Hooper Crosby my number is in the 8000 ...

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December 06, 2012, 02:51:59 PM
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Tom is going to have a hard time with warranties with people supplying their own power supplies. Many of them will be old faulty units that were replace for a reason. This alone I surmise will increase Tom's operating cost 30%-60%, maybe even more. Also it will increase the chance of a customer getting a refurbished unit sold as new.
ZTEX GmbH ships their FPGA boards without power supplies and yes, there have been a few complaints by people who did not read the specs, but they do not have to replace boards because the customer is hooking up power supplies that spike over 12V.

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December 06, 2012, 03:36:15 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/
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December 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/

I think there is a mistake. It should be "early 2014".  They need to add a lot of "clock buffers" and that requires a lot of time. Currently, they are testing their phantom chips and they are of good cheer.
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December 06, 2012, 05:02:31 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/

I think there is a mistake. It should be "early 2014".  They need to add a lot of "clock buffers" and that requires a lot of time. Currently, they are testing their phantom chips and they are of good cheer.

But, but they promised to deliver before block halvingday.......ooo i see..2016 .. Cheesy Cheesy

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December 06, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/
So you believe a random web article's dates vs the dates given by BFL themselves?  Did you ever consider the possibility that the article could be incorrect?   Roll Eyes
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December 06, 2012, 05:53:35 PM
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So you believe a random web article's dates vs the dates given by BFL themselves?  Did you ever consider the possibility that the article could be incorrect?   Roll Eyes

I certainly do. BFL reps don't tell the truth...see the above email received from Debbie. If they STILL don't have chips in early Dec how are they ever going to ship in late Dec? That's just unrealistic nonsense.

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December 06, 2012, 06:13:59 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/
So you believe a random web article's dates vs the dates given by BFL themselves?  Did you ever consider the possibility that the article could be incorrect?   Roll Eyes

Then what do you make of this official quote?

Quote from: BFL_Josh
we should still be getting the chips this month

So they might get the chips this year. You think they just plug the chips in and that's a finished product immediately ready to ship? Admit it. There is zero chance of BFL shipping an ASIC in 2012.

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December 06, 2012, 06:32:53 PM
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Almost a month after BFL. I'm sorry, I really am. I like the competition, but I'm glad I choose BFL.

Actually BFL will not be around till then either.

"... in early 2013 they will start shipping to over a thousand customers who placed advance orders."
source: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/
So you believe a random web article's dates vs the dates given by BFL themselves?  Did you ever consider the possibility that the article could be incorrect?   Roll Eyes

Then what do you make of this official quote?

Quote from: BFL_Josh
we should still be getting the chips this month

So they might get the chips this year. You think they just plug the chips in and that's a finished product immediately ready to ship? Admit it. There is zero chance of BFL shipping an ASIC in 2012.
I hadn't seen that quote before.  Where did he say that?
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December 06, 2012, 06:53:39 PM
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Removed, I was half awake.

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December 06, 2012, 06:56:28 PM
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BFL knows GD well they won't be shipping products during the holiday shopping season. It's just BS that they offhandedly peddle misinformation to paying customers.

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