Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[nochkin]

true...but it won't affect me at all whether I spend 100 watts a day or 270 watts a day. At the end of the month it won't be very significant. Of course, for those who invest heavily in this, I believe they need to do a lot of calculations to know if it will be worth it or not

When you crunch 24/7 using 3060, that's a way more than 270 Watts per day.
Just the 3060 alone draws about 150-200 Watts, that's not including CPU, RAM, Mobo, Monitor, etc. If you use 3060 for 24 hours (a day), that's like 4000 Watts*h per day without including other components. 15 times more than "270 Watts per day".
If you don't pay for your electricity or have a flat fee, that's different.

[Jorge54PT]

true...but it won't affect me at all whether I spend 100 watts a day or 270 watts a day. At the end of the month it won't be very significant. Of course, for those who invest heavily in this, I believe they need to do a lot of calculations to know if it will be worth it or not

When you crunch 24/7 using 3060, that's a way more than 270 Watts per day.
Just the 3060 alone draws about 150-200 Watts, that's not including CPU, RAM, Mobo, Monitor, etc. If you use 3060 for 24 hours (a day), that's like 4000 Watts*h per day without including other components. 15 times more than "270 Watts per day".
If you don't pay for your electricity or have a flat fee, that's different.

I just gave an example of how it wouldn't affect me because I've had my PC on for over a decade and have had several PCs throughout my life. I usually turn my PC on and only turn it off when there's a power outage or something breaks in the hardware. Maybe not everyone can do that, but as I said, I don't care if I pay 100 watts, 270 watts or those 4,000 you mentioned. At the end of the month, electricity always costs between $80 and $150. And when summer comes, it can reach $200 with the AC on in the room. I can made pay.   Not long ago I had my 6 KS0 connected and paid an extra $30 per month. Now that they are disconnected, I barely notice how much less I pay, just as I didn't notice how much more I paid.

[nochkin]

At the end of the month, electricity always costs between $80 and $150. And when summer comes, it can reach $200 with the AC on in the room. I can made pay

Got it. I guess you don't load your PC all the way up if you pay between 80 and 150 only. If you do, that's like one more AC running all the time.

[Jorge54PT]

At the end of the month, electricity always costs between $80 and $150. And when summer comes, it can reach $200 with the AC on in the room. I can made pay

Got it. I guess you don't load your PC all the way up if you pay between 80 and 150 only. If you do, that's like one more AC running all the time.

I think the electricity company makes payment variations so that the consumer doesn't notice it too much. That way I know that I'll pay more or less within that amount, whether the AC is on or not, or whether or not an extra 3060 is on that must be it.  My whole life has been like this... I'm 54 years old now and the electricity is always within those values, whether it's cold or hot. Im in Portugal..but i beleave is different country to country

[nochkin]

I think the electricity company makes payment variations so that the consumer doesn't notice it too much. That way I know that I'll pay more or less within that amount, whether the AC is on or not, or whether or not an extra 3060 is on that must be it.  My whole life has been like this... I'm 54 years old now and the electricity is always within those values, whether it's cold or hot. Im in Portugal..but i beleave is different country to country

You mean when they average monthly payments based on your full year's consumption? Yes, some of them do. In this case it's harder to track what you use even though you pay the full price anyway, right.

[Jorge54PT]

I think the electricity company makes payment variations so that the consumer doesn't notice it too much. That way I know that I'll pay more or less within that amount, whether the AC is on or not, or whether or not an extra 3060 is on that must be it.  My whole life has been like this... I'm 54 years old now and the electricity is always within those values, whether it's cold or hot. Im in Portugal..but i beleave is different country to country

You mean when they average monthly payments based on your full year's consumption? Yes, some of them do. In this case it's harder to track what you use even though you pay the full price anyway, right.

True.
I have access to my monthly expenses in watts, but I confess that I don't even care about that anymore. In the winter I turn on everything I need to turn on to heat the house and in the summer everything to cool it down. My TV is also on 24 hours a day and I can't even sleep without it on. I think the TV helps me fall asleep. Well... that's how it is in my house... everything is on and I pay what I expect to pay... whether it's more or less than what I should pay, it's always within the usual amounts for many years   This is all due to using my 3060 for these puzzles. I already used it for trivial PC stuff, but now it's in full swing looking for wallet 71 maybe I'll get as lucky as I did with wallet 48

[E36cat]

I think the electricity company makes payment variations so that the consumer doesn't notice it too much. That way I know that I'll pay more or less within that amount, whether the AC is on or not, or whether or not an extra 3060 is on that must be it.  My whole life has been like this... I'm 54 years old now and the electricity is always within those values, whether it's cold or hot. Im in Portugal..but i beleave is different country to country

You mean when they average monthly payments based on your full year's consumption? Yes, some of them do. In this case it's harder to track what you use even though you pay the full price anyway, right.

True.
I have access to my monthly expenses in watts, but I confess that I don't even care about that anymore. In the winter I turn on everything I need to turn on to heat the house and in the summer everything to cool it down. My TV is also on 24 hours a day and I can't even sleep without it on. I think the TV helps me fall asleep. Well... that's how it is in my house... everything is on and I pay what I expect to pay... whether it's more or less than what I should pay, it's always within the usual amounts for many years   This is all due to using my 3060 for these puzzles. I already used it for trivial PC stuff, but now it's in full swing looking for wallet 71 maybe I'll get as lucky as I did with wallet 48

85 seconds for puzzle 48, equivals to aproximately 45 years for puzzle 71 at, think about it

[Jorge54PT]

I think the electricity company makes payment variations so that the consumer doesn't notice it too much. That way I know that I'll pay more or less within that amount, whether the AC is on or not, or whether or not an extra 3060 is on that must be it.  My whole life has been like this... I'm 54 years old now and the electricity is always within those values, whether it's cold or hot. Im in Portugal..but i beleave is different country to country

You mean when they average monthly payments based on your full year's consumption? Yes, some of them do. In this case it's harder to track what you use even though you pay the full price anyway, right.

True.
I have access to my monthly expenses in watts, but I confess that I don't even care about that anymore. In the winter I turn on everything I need to turn on to heat the house and in the summer everything to cool it down. My TV is also on 24 hours a day and I can't even sleep without it on. I think the TV helps me fall asleep. Well... that's how it is in my house... everything is on and I pay what I expect to pay... whether it's more or less than what I should pay, it's always within the usual amounts for many years  This is all due to using my 3060 for these puzzles. I already used it for trivial PC stuff, but now it's in full swing looking for wallet 71 maybe I'll get as lucky as I did with wallet 48

85 seconds for puzzle 48, equivals to aproximately 45 years for puzzle 71 at, think about it

Your estimate is for sequential calculations within a range, right? The lottery is either a lottery or it never comes or it could be now because it doesn't follow any range only luck
I remember going to Bingo in 1994. The prize accumulated was $5,000, but I had to complete the card with 15 numbers until ball 45 came out. It was unlikely in 90 balls, but I managed to get it on the last ball, 45. Just luck after that i dont won nothing offcourse Maybe 71 is for me ahhahahaha (dreams)

[kTimesG]

85 seconds for puzzle 48, equivals to aproximately 45 years for puzzle 71 at, think about it

Your estimate is for sequential calculations within a range, right? The lottery is either a lottery or it never comes or it could be now because it doesn't follow any range only luck

It has been debated to death (and proved in all shapes and forms): "luck" is not affected if you scan either sequentially vs. some picked untested key (either at a random position, or via whatever other made-up logic, like prefixes).

What gets affected though, is the efficiency of the computations, and there is absolutely nothing currently that is known to be more efficient (e.g. that costs less or runs faster) than a full-on sequential scan. That is, if one wants to solve anything in the most efficient manner possible, not playing bingo with the elliptic curve and two uniform hash functions.

[Jorge54PT]

85 seconds for puzzle 48, equivals to aproximately 45 years for puzzle 71 at, think about it

Your estimate is for sequential calculations within a range, right? The lottery is either a lottery or it never comes or it could be now because it doesn't follow any range only luck

It has been debated to death (and proved in all shapes and forms): "luck" is not affected if you scan either sequentially vs. some picked untested key (either at a random position, or via whatever other made-up logic, like prefixes).

What gets affected though, is the efficiency of the computations, and there is absolutely nothing currently that is known to be more efficient (e.g. that costs less or runs faster) than a full-on sequential scan. That is, if one wants to solve anything in the most efficient manner possible, not playing bingo with the elliptic curve and two uniform hash functions.

Well...it's true that the best thing is a sequential and complete scan within the intended range, but I'm not interested in spending money on rentals to find a 71-bit key within the time I can live
That way I have fun and luck (whitout calculations) and chance remain with me to find 71 at low cost.
That's why it was so much fun to take 2 hours to find key 48,  or in 85 seconds:)
The expectation is very good, even when it may never happen. "Put the coin in the machine, select the 18 characters and let it go" . 1000 Millions tikets per second not bad and just only need 1 ticker winner.

But I get what you mean, but I've been here for a while and have been following all the posts from users .

ps: Anyone who takes this too seriously is halfway to victory or defeat and the destruction of their own life.

make it fun

[crytoestudo]

What code are you using?

[benjaniah]

The way 69 was solved still feels suspicious to me, but I haven’t had time to fully investigate.

The finder of 69 decided to start off by scanning every 11th range, beginning with 10000000, then 1000000B, 10000016, 10000021, 1000002C ... kept doing that until while scanning the 175,830th range, found the key in 101D8327. Aware of the risk of broadcasting directly to the mempool, the finder opened up an outdated version of Electrum to craft the transaction which would be sent to Mara Slipstream. A prompt to update Electrum to its newest version appeared, which the finder chose to update, and that "update" was malware that then broadcast a transaction directly to the mempool. Pretty much the same story that happened to one guy in 2020:

https://www.coolwallet.io/blogs/blog/1400-bitcoins-btc-stolen-from-an-outdated-electrum-wallet

[nomachine]

Let’s bring this thread back to life. I want to share something it might be helpful, or it might not but hopefully someone will find the key.

Puzzle Keys Are Random. They’re made to be unpredictable. No amount of crunchin’ numbers or shufflin’ letters will show you a pattern ‘cause there ain’t one. The only way to crack the puzzle (all together) is to know the master random seed. Good luck with that. It could be up to 30 characters long.

A=1, B=2, etc. Is Made Up. That letter-to-number thing you’re usin’? Total guesswork. The puzzle maker never said nothin’ about it, and unless they straight-up confirmed it, you’re just chasin’ your own tail. You’re tryna force a pattern where there ain’t one.

AI Can’t Beat Randomness. Any AI "predictin’" missing values (like sayin’ Y=4) is just catchin’ lucky breaks in tiny samples. Try it on a bigger batch or different keys, and it’ll flop. Random means no steady trios or trends. Just pure chaos.

The "69" puzzle key got found early ‘cause brute-forcin’ a small range is all about luck and odds.

Swappin’ the first few digits (like turnin’ 6 into 4) might seem like a win in your tiny sample, but stats don’t lie. Every possible key’s got the same shot.

The only real ways to solve these puzzles? Brute-force it (check keys one by one or jump around) or get stupid lucky. Even that "first 25%" guess is just a shot in the dark. The key could be anywhere in the range.


Good luck, but don’t overcomplicate randomness

You forgot to mention the even/odd inverse function. The problem is still open.

Yo, you're on the right track with that batch point addition logic from JLP, especially how you're mixing in batch processing like Cyclone does. But here’s the thing. You need a compressed (even/odd) database. Or, if you wanna keep it light, whip up a database that only takes up 8 bytes. Kinda like that slick public key database from @Mcdouglas-X3. That’ll speed things up big time, givin’ you enough bandwidth to hit at least 90 bits.

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

That’ll speed things up big time, givin’ you enough bandwidth to hit at least 90 bits.

So, according to this it is possible to reach up to 90bit using only RAM, CPU and database (big storage) for even/odd points ? 

[nomachine]

That’ll speed things up big time, givin’ you enough bandwidth to hit at least 90 bits.

So, according to this it is possible to reach up to 90bit using only RAM, CPU and database (big storage) for even/odd points ?  

Maybe.  

Point_Search is by design not a puzzle solver. But emerged from testing even/odd concept. That is what interests me most.

Somethin’ else can be built on top of it. You could use different algorithms, or even run it on the GPU

[mahmood1356]

I have a question and why two different private keys can lead to the same address in certain circumstances?
Example:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000050574a424748444e47
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a08c171ca0d4187a8f88
1ECDtqs8nAUyxNuTY4kTV6rHr6NoVUkMna

[7xminer]

I have a question and why two different private keys can lead to the same address in certain circumstances?
Example:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000050574a424748444e47
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a08c171ca0d4187a8f88
1ECDtqs8nAUyxNuTY4kTV6rHr6NoVUkMna

If I am not mistaken, the second private key is not valid. It must be less than

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEBAAEDCE6AF48A03BBFD25E8CD0364141

[limitlesszen]

This is where the Key range ends fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140

How did you come up with that private key???

[mcdouglasx]

I have a question and why two different private keys can lead to the same address in certain circumstances?
Example:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000050574a424748444e47
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a08c171ca0d4187a8f88
1ECDtqs8nAUyxNuTY4kTV6rHr6NoVUkMna

s= fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a08c171ca0d4187a8f88
N = 115792089237316195423570985008687907852837564279074904382605163141518161494337

because s being larger than the order of the curve N they are equivalent to the same private key.


r= fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a08c171ca0d4187a8f88 % N

r= 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000050574a424748444e47

r = s

[mahmood1356]

Here's private keys in the permitted range:
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000050777fa42474
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd2af044fda65b5
5HpHagT65TZzG1PH3CSu63k8DbpvD8s5ip4nEFZx7SbUFZwUky8
5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLpbr5jKpTB3jsuDYYXQoaUyo4Bo7F
1M11bSzALREuhhLooRM2T1NMnfVk3sUc9S

You say, for example, this specific key is not permitted:
5Km2kuu7vtFDPpxywn4u3NLu7gtP9wNBvb8bwE71ENjYimUMdZY
146h7J8tRLa13oRt914DUtTgz6erwLKPAS
If I installed the same specialty in the Electrum wallet.