Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[M_Khwarizmi]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

[Jorge54PT]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

[nochkin]

Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

This is not true. Once you got one confirmation, you can't override the transaction with something else.
Some big services require 6 confirmations to protect from double-spending attack (or 51% attack), but it's not related to the issue how puzzle 69 was stolen.
If you got one confirmation (the tx mined by one block at least), you are good. It would be a way too expensive (read "impossible") to pull 51% attack using Bitcoin network.

[SimonNeedsBitcoin]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

[Mafioso246]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

It's been written countless times, mempool links have been flying around, yet you're saying you can't see any proof and you're suggesting trying it with a high fee, which is extremely absurd. I recommend reading the thread from page 370 up to this point. GL

Aside from puzzle 67 and 68 being claimed this way, I also forgot to mention the people who tested MARA before them. If you find 71 or another low entrop. puzzle, please be sure to make a normal transfer

[M_Khwarizmi]

Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

This is not true. Once you got one confirmation, you can't override the transaction with something else.
Some big services require 6 confirmations to protect from double-spending attack (or 51% attack), but it's not related to the issue how puzzle 69 was stolen.
If you got one confirmation (the tx mined by one block at least), you are good. It would be a way too expensive (read "impossible") to pull 51% attack using Bitcoin network.

Normally, whenever a miner discovers a block, they immediately broadcast it to the network so everyone becomes aware and can start working on the next block. However, in Selfish Mining, the miner (or a large mining pool) hides the discovered blocks and strategically releases them in order to:

Render other miners’ blocks useless (orphaned).

Claim a larger share of the block rewards for themselves.

This is one of the ways to eliminate confirmed blocks, and there are several other methods that also result in the removal of a confirmed block.

[nochkin]

Normally, whenever a miner discovers a block, they immediately broadcast it to the network so everyone becomes aware and can start working on the next block. However, in Selfish Mining, the miner (or a large mining pool) hides the discovered blocks and strategically releases them in order to:

Render other miners’ blocks useless (orphaned).

Claim a larger share of the block rewards for themselves.

This is one of the ways to eliminate confirmed blocks, and there are several other methods that also result in the removal of a confirmed block.

You missed the fact that it needs to be approved by the majority of miners/nodes. Even though this is theoretically possible, but would be too expensive to execute.

[Menowa*]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

[Mafioso246]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

[teguh54321]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

[SimonNeedsBitcoin]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

It's been written countless times, mempool links have been flying around, yet you're saying you can't see any proof and you're suggesting trying it with a high fee, which is extremely absurd. I recommend reading the thread from page 370 up to this point. GL

Aside from puzzle 67 and 68 being claimed this way, I also forgot to mention the people who tested MARA before them. If you find 71 or another low entrop. puzzle, please be sure to make a normal transfer

I still recommend using the highest fee for normal transfers, which is in line with the decentralized principle of Bitcoin and can quickly get block confirmation. Usually, you can successfully transfer money in less than a minute.

Those who suggest that we transfer money through private mining pools may be a conspiracy to steal our property.

[Mafioso246]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

It's been written countless times, mempool links have been flying around, yet you're saying you can't see any proof and you're suggesting trying it with a high fee, which is extremely absurd. I recommend reading the thread from page 370 up to this point. GL

Aside from puzzle 67 and 68 being claimed this way, I also forgot to mention the people who tested MARA before them. If you find 71 or another low entrop. puzzle, please be sure to make a normal transfer

I still recommend using the highest fee for normal transfers, which is in line with the decentralized principle of Bitcoin and can quickly get block confirmation. Usually, you can successfully transfer money in less than a minute.

Those who suggest that we transfer money through private mining pools may be a conspiracy to steal our property.

You're talking like the person who found puzzle 69 now I'm suspicious.  

And of course, there are bots that will find the private key of puzzle 71 in less than a minute and sabotage the transfer.

[M_Khwarizmi]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

[SimonNeedsBitcoin]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

For ordinary transactions, there is no scope for private keys. Even if private mining pools exhaust their computing power, they may not be able to crack your private key before the universe explodes, so they can only confirm your transaction normally.

But the puzzle has a reasonable scope. If you hand over your transaction data to them, they can use a day to crack your transaction. If they also have that kind of robot algorithm, do you think they can crack your transaction in a short time? It's scary to think about it.

[teguh54321]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

Summoning KtimesG and nomachine. Let see their comment 😅🙏

[M_Khwarizmi]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

Summoning KtimesG and nomachine. Let see their comment 😅🙏

And by the way, everyone knows that our company has a lot of computing power and cannot solve the puzzles in a very short time. So, have you ever wondered why it didn't do this? In the news and reports about our company's monthly income, it is stated that last month the company's net income was 900 bitcoins. In your opinion, why doesn't our company solve these puzzles so that it can earn more income than the previous month?


I am Iranian and I translate texts using Google Translate, and if there is a mistake in the writing, I am not to blame.

[SimonNeedsBitcoin]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

It's been written countless times, mempool links have been flying around, yet you're saying you can't see any proof and you're suggesting trying it with a high fee, which is extremely absurd. I recommend reading the thread from page 370 up to this point. GL

Aside from puzzle 67 and 68 being claimed this way, I also forgot to mention the people who tested MARA before them. If you find 71 or another low entrop. puzzle, please be sure to make a normal transfer

I still recommend using the highest fee for normal transfers, which is in line with the decentralized principle of Bitcoin and can quickly get block confirmation. Usually, you can successfully transfer money in less than a minute.

Those who suggest that we transfer money through private mining pools may be a conspiracy to steal our property.

You're talking like the person who found puzzle 69 now I'm suspicious.  

And of course, there are bots that will find the private key of puzzle 71 in less than a minute and sabotage the transfer.

This is indeed a bit scary, but I think the real private key cracker will have a chance to successfully transfer the money himself with the highest fee, after all, it only takes a minute. If you submit your transaction to a private mining pool, they will have plenty of time to crack your transaction.

[Mafioso246]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

I'm writing this without being lazy and explaining it step by step: "completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time" might be true for keys over 80 bits, but what you said is nonsense for the following reason.

If we talk about the current puzzle 71, when you search for the public key of any 71-bit address using RetiredCoder's kangaroo, Ok I can even give you the hardware an RTX 4090 and as an example, I show below exactly how it works:

MAIN MODE

Solving public key
X: EDCFADF4E607CB2E8927DA2E7BF0B2CB9D7376B6DFC43A486DDD535021C9F686
Y: B27F71F9B498BAD82633C5DA9EEDFDC3F3B786318080710BB0BF1381968962D0
Offset: 400000000000000000

Solving point: Range 70 bits, DP 14, start...
SOTA method, estimated ops: 2^35.202, RAM for DPs: 0.277 GB. DP and GPU overheads not included!
Estimated DPs per kangaroo: 3.067. DP overhead is big, use less DP value if possible!
GPU 0: allocated 2394 MB, 786432 kangaroos. OldGpuMode: No
GPUs started...

Stopping work ...
Total Time: 3 seconds
Point solved, K: 0.412 (with DP and GPU overheads)

PRIVATE KEY: 6ACC29061A29B3EB5A

Public Addr: 1PWo3JeB9qordwWTL3GMBUVuo5Usa9wj4z
Priv (WIF): p2pkh:KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3rDzuJyywM8f2fuQHuuyk
Priv (HEX): 0x6ACC29061A29B3EB5A

Ah wait, I reached the private key in 3 seconds. Even if I don't know any coding, I would automate this with AI. I did this for you without being lazy, and as I said before, please read the thread carefully starting from page 350s, even from 300s or much earlier.

[teguh54321]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

Summoning KtimesG and nomachine. Let see their comment 😅🙏

And by the way, everyone knows that our company has a lot of computing power and cannot solve the puzzles in a very short time. So, have you ever wondered why it didn't do this? In the news and reports about our company's monthly income, it is stated that last month the company's net income was 900 bitcoins. In your opinion, why doesn't our company solve these puzzles so that it can earn more income than the previous month?


I am Iranian and I translate texts using Google Translate, and if there is a mistake in the writing, I am not to blame.

Cause for puzzle 71 it is gamble.  Cost of bruting the entire puzzle is more than the prize in current technology.    thats my opinion.

[SimonNeedsBitcoin]

1PWo3JeB9jrGLDTmsp45h1pDXXtb7zisQH

start with 79B

Why does everyone keep trying to solve it?

I think this is a game that benefits others, not the solvers!! When more inventory was added to these puzzles, each Bitcoin was worth about $27,000. Have any of you thought about why the finder of puzzle 69 lost inventory?


Let me remind you of a few principles: Bitcoin can only consider a transaction as completed after receiving 6 confirmations in the next blocks in the blockchain network chain, and before 6 confirmations, that asset is not in your possession, and the block containing the transaction confirmed by miners may be completely removed from the blockchain chain before reaching 6 confirmations, which are called orphan blocks.

lost because he used the mempool instead of Mara. Big mistake when it's already been discussed here on how to avoid losing those funds.

Although using a private mining pool instead of a public one can prevent RBF, but who can guarantee that the private mining pool will not embezzle the money? This is not difficult at all technically.
Normal transfers with high fees may still have a chance of success, but if they cheat through a private mining pool, you will never get your property back. I think the decentralization of Bitcoin does not allow you to hand over transactions to private mining pools.
And I have not seen any evidence that No. 67 and 68 were successfully transferred through Mara.

If you have any questions, why dont you try Mara by yourself? Ill make myself clear: im not specialist in bitcoin not even in coding. But I already have tested Mara and it`ll worked out in the end. At no time in this process the private key is revealed, you only need a hex of a signed transaction which contains just numbers, and past it in Mara. I dont see how they could get the private key and trick you leaving you with nothing. I could be talking bullshit since im not an expert about all of this, Im just talking about what I did and tested with 5 dolars.

If I'm not thinking incorrectly, the assumption or theory behind not trusting MARA is entirely based on the hex of a signed transaction, the idea that someone there, whether it's the miner or someone else, could access the public key information before anyone else and, thinking "well, this is a Bitcoin puzzle anyway," could take the entire amount for themselves.

There only 2 way.  Collusion inside 😅. Or setup huge mount of miner at mara pool and hope lucky the public key pass to your miner ..

But why .. .. better to find way to solve it 🙃😅

If it fail trough mara , then mara reputation will fall i think. Cause the solver will surely go bonker 🙃

My discussion is not about attacking or removing confirmed blocks for profit; it is about why some puzzles - whose existence is recorded at the time of their creation - become very valuable and popular, but when these puzzles are solved, the rewards are not distributed to the solvers and are stolen? The answer is quite clear: we all know that it is completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time, given the public key. The only logical and 100% probable case is that those bots already have that key before you yourself have access to your private key. "Yes, of course the number of these bots is the same as the number of puzzles left. These bots all have the keys to the puzzles and are designed to monitor and investigate unsolved Bitcoin puzzles and monitor Bitcoin transactions across the blockchain. If you have access to a full node on the Bitcoin network, you can examine the transactions associated with orphaned blocks at the time and date of previous puzzle solutions and see how many of these thefts occurred there."

I'm writing this without being lazy and explaining it step by step: "completely ridiculous and illogical to believe that bots can obtain the private key in a very short time" might be true for keys over 80 bits, but what you said is nonsense for the following reason.

If we talk about the current puzzle 71, when you search for the public key of any 71-bit address using RetiredCoder's kangaroo, Ok I can even give you the hardware an RTX 4090 and as an example, I show below exactly how it works:

MAIN MODE

Solving public key
X: EDCFADF4E607CB2E8927DA2E7BF0B2CB9D7376B6DFC43A486DDD535021C9F686
Y: B27F71F9B498BAD82633C5DA9EEDFDC3F3B786318080710BB0BF1381968962D0
Offset: 400000000000000000

Solving point: Range 70 bits, DP 14, start...
SOTA method, estimated ops: 2^35.202, RAM for DPs: 0.277 GB. DP and GPU overheads not included!
Estimated DPs per kangaroo: 3.067. DP overhead is big, use less DP value if possible!
GPU 0: allocated 2394 MB, 786432 kangaroos. OldGpuMode: No
GPUs started...

Stopping work ...
Total Time: 3 seconds
Point solved, K: 0.412 (with DP and GPU overheads)

PRIVATE KEY: 6ACC29061A29B3EB5A

Public Addr: 1PWo3JeB9qordwWTL3GMBUVuo5Usa9wj4z
Priv (WIF): p2pkh:KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3rDzuJyywM8f2fuQHuuyk
Priv (HEX): 0x6ACC29061A29B3EB5A

Ah wait, I reached the private key in 3 seconds. Even if I don't know any coding, I would automate this with AI. I did this for you without being lazy, and as I said before, please read the thread carefully starting from page 350s, even from 300s or much earlier.

This does seem a bit scary, and normal transfers may indeed be robbed. But my question is, who can guarantee that private mining pools will not be selfish and steal your property? If you submit the transaction data to a private mining pool, they have more time to crack your transaction.

If you transfer money normally and use the highest handling fee, miners all over the world will rush to confirm your transaction, and it may only take a minute or even tens of seconds to confirm your transaction. You still have a certain chance to successfully transfer money. This is also the benefit of Bitcoin decentralization.

But if you submit the transaction to a mara or any other private mining pool that came out of nowhere (sorry, I don’t mean it in a derogatory way) , wouldn’t you be afraid that they will embezzle your property? This does not conform to the decentralized principle of Bitcoin.

Maybe I don’t understand, but if I really crack the Puzzle 71, I will be very cautious.