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Bro thanks for replying, can you pl tell me How to run it in cmd with my particular range & pub key, plus can it take multiple pubkeys at a time, all within same range of 2^80??
No here you must use one pubkey but in https://github.com/JeanLucPons/Kangaroo you can use CPU or GPU or both with multiple pubkeys. The script is easy to run from cmd. You should first install python package (For here https://www.python.org/downloads/ ) Then use this format in cmd(HEX = Hexadecimal) python kangaroo.py -p PUBLICK_KEY_HEX -keyspace START_RANGE_HEX:END_RANGE_HEX For example(search in range 80): python kangaroo.py -p 0352b1af31d67e6a83ec7931c148f56b0755ce40c836f20c6fe2b6da612c89cf3e -keyspace 80000000000000000000:100000000000000000000
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Bro thanks for replying, can you pl tell me How to run it in cmd with my particular range & pub key, plus can it take multiple pubkeys at a time, all within same range of 2^80?? -p = "Public Key in hex format (compressed or uncompressed) -keyspace "Keyspace Range ( hex ) to search from min:max. default=1:order of curve -ncore= "Number of CPU to use. default = Total-1 -n = "Total range search in 1 loop. default=72057594037927935 -rand = "Start from a random value in the given range from min:max and search 0XFFFFFFFFFFFFFF values then again take a new r -rand1= "First Start from a random value, then go fully sequential, in the given range from min:max run the following code in the same folder as the files, write the range you want to search, set the settings, save it as a bat file and run it kangaroo.py -p 02CEB6CBBCDBDF5EF7150682150F4CE2C6F4807B349827DCDBDD1F2EFA885A2630 -keyspace 800000000000000000000000000000:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF -n 720575940379279350 -rand -ncore 7
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Why are you wasting your time on addresses and their 160 bit binary values? Don't you know an address does not exist in bitcoin related equations? An address is just a name base58 encoding gives us, a rmd160 is just a name public key hash gives us, public key hash is just a name public key gives us, public key is not a "name" given by private key. That's the only mathematical relationship we should focus, leave the rest be, even if you manage to brute force 66, what about 67? so the main focus should be on public keys, because hash256, hash160, base58 etc are just distraction, they are the firewalls and you are trying to solve a 160 bit firewall to then reach a 256 bit firewall. Lol.
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In my humble understanding, he -as many others- thinks that there is a pattern and he tries to predict it. But it's as simple as the puzzle creator said: THERE IS NO PATTERN. The puzzle creator would not be so foolish to use a predictable pattern, would you in his position?
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In my humble understanding, he -as many others- thinks that there is a pattern and he tries to predict it. But it's as simple as the puzzle creator said: THERE IS NO PATTERN. The puzzle creator would not be so foolish to use a predictable pattern, would you in his position?
There is not pattern, that's true. All next puzzles are just random numbers masked with leading zeros. But if you use math you can narrow down the range of searching by 50-70% for 90% of puzzles. I've formula what shows that I need to compare only 9 600 000 000 000 000 000 addresses with address for puzzle #66. I need someone who can help creating a script for that because I'm not into IT much. I can rent hundred 4090 for that and share with reward.
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In my humble understanding, he -as many others- thinks that there is a pattern and he tries to predict it. But it's as simple as the puzzle creator said: THERE IS NO PATTERN. The puzzle creator would not be so foolish to use a predictable pattern, would you in his position?
There is not pattern, that's true. All next puzzles are just random numbers masked with leading zeros. But if you use math you can narrow down the range of searching by 50-70% for 90% of puzzles. I've formula what shows that I need to compare only 9 600 000 000 000 000 000 addresses with address for puzzle #66. I need someone who can help creating a script for that because I'm not into IT much. I can rent hundred 4090 for that and share with reward. https://poe.com/ChatGPTask chatgpt it will share you all the code You keep your money and your algorithm becomes your resource for the next puzzle
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There is not pattern, that's true. All next puzzles are just random numbers masked with leading zeros. But...
period. There is no 'but...' if you use math you can narrow down the range of searching by 50-70% for 90% of puzzles. I've formula what shows that I need to compare only 9 600 000 000 000 000 000 addresses with address for puzzle #66. I need someone who can help creating a script for that because I'm not into IT much. I can rent hundred 4090 for that and share with reward. what makes you think that you have an advantage of being capable renting a 4090 card? Seriously, that's amusing. Most of us can rent cloud computing power, I can rent 128x4090 but that won't be helpful cause you either run out of money or time. i don't want to intimidate you, but separate yourself from the illusion that you or anyone else can anticipate a pattern, because there is no such pattern. To help you understand, here is a simple example. In this example I play the puzzle creator and create the keys for the puzzle 50-55. Here are my made up numbers: #50: 27F9B1013CAA4 #51: 7FEF1D8A4141A #52: 94FBB3882E756 #53: 1FFF93C8AB39DF #54: 2010A46AB8CC41 #55: 6D7DB29029A8F5 Now it's your turn. Show me the pattern. You can't? Ok, so show me the formula so you can exclude a certain search range that will help reducing calculation time. I'm curious to see your findings... Hopefully you now understand what it's all about ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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There is not pattern, that's true. All next puzzles are just random numbers masked with leading zeros. But...
period. There is no 'but...' if you use math you can narrow down the range of searching by 50-70% for 90% of puzzles. I've formula what shows that I need to compare only 9 600 000 000 000 000 000 addresses with address for puzzle #66. I need someone who can help creating a script for that because I'm not into IT much. I can rent hundred 4090 for that and share with reward. what makes you think that you have an advantage of being capable renting a 4090 card? Seriously, that's amusing. Most of us can rent cloud computing power, I can rent 128x4090 but that won't be helpful cause you either run out of money or time. i don't want to intimidate you, but separate yourself from the illusion that you or anyone else can anticipate a pattern, because there is no such pattern. To help you understand, here is a simple example. In this example I play the puzzle creator and create the keys for the puzzle 50-55. Here are my made up numbers: #50: 27F9B1013CAA4 #51: 7FEF1D8A4141A #52: 94FBB3882E756 #53: 1FFF93C8AB39DF #54: 2010A46AB8CC41 #55: 6D7DB29029A8F5 Now it's your turn. Show me the pattern. You can't? Ok, so show me the formula so you can exclude a certain search range that will help reducing calculation time. I'm curious to see your findings... Hopefully you now understand what it's all about ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Give me the same puzzle as the creator with provided keys until 65 and I will give you range narrowed down by 50-70% percent for #66.
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There is not pattern, that's true. All next puzzles are just random numbers masked with leading zeros. But...
period. There is no 'but...' if you use math you can narrow down the range of searching by 50-70% for 90% of puzzles. I've formula what shows that I need to compare only 9 600 000 000 000 000 000 addresses with address for puzzle #66. I need someone who can help creating a script for that because I'm not into IT much. I can rent hundred 4090 for that and share with reward. what makes you think that you have an advantage of being capable renting a 4090 card? Seriously, that's amusing. Most of us can rent cloud computing power, I can rent 128x4090 but that won't be helpful cause you either run out of money or time. i don't want to intimidate you, but separate yourself from the illusion that you or anyone else can anticipate a pattern, because there is no such pattern. To help you understand, here is a simple example. In this example I play the puzzle creator and create the keys for the puzzle 50-55. Here are my made up numbers: #50: 27F9B1013CAA4 #51: 7FEF1D8A4141A #52: 94FBB3882E756 #53: 1FFF93C8AB39DF #54: 2010A46AB8CC41 #55: 6D7DB29029A8F5 Now it's your turn. Show me the pattern. You can't? Ok, so show me the formula so you can exclude a certain search range that will help reducing calculation time. I'm curious to see your findings... Hopefully you now understand what it's all about ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Give me the same puzzle as the creator with provided keys until 65 and I will give you range narrowed down by 50-70% percent for #66. https://privatekeyfinder.io/
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Did I forget to mention there is no possible way to determine any specific narrowed down range for an address, that is even if we know the exact start/ end range, what you can only do is to guess a small range and then trying to brute force it, doing that would be equal to searching half the previous puzzle's range, considering even if you could shrink the 66 range to 25%, you'd be searching half of 65's range.
I have looked at solved puzzles for weeks to find a pattern or to just reduce the search range for unsolved ones, I was able to reduce the range of the next puzzle by 10%, lol. What you should know, I believe Satoshi placed the keys at least in 50% + of each range, which makes solving them counterproductive financially.
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What you should know, I believe Satoshi placed the keys at least in 50% + of each range, which makes solving them counterproductive financially.
Faith will move mountains, but knowledge will move them faster. The keys position within its range are randomly. You can proof yourself, just check the keys and calculate its position. That's no rocket science. Hint: look at puzzle 25, 31, 60, 63 to get a feeling of what a high position is and puzzles 38, 50, 85 to understand what a low position means ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There is no "narrowing the search range solution" for this. You wouldn't have solve the mentioned puzzle otherwise. The key positions for the known keys of today for this puzzle vary from 0.069 (puzzle 38) to 0.97 (puzzle 60), while disregarding puzzles 1-10. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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What you should know, I believe Satoshi placed the keys at least in 50% + of each range, which makes solving them counterproductive financially.
Faith will move mountains, but knowledge will move them faster. The keys position within its range are randomly. You can proof yourself, just check the keys and calculate its position. That's no rocket science. Hint: look at puzzle 25, 31, 60, 63 to get a feeling of what a high position is and puzzles 38, 50, 85 to understand what a low position means ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There is no "narrowing the search range solution" for this. You wouldn't have solve the mentioned puzzle otherwise. The key positions for the known keys of today for this puzzle vary from 0.069 (puzzle 38) to 0.97 (puzzle 60), while disregarding puzzles 1-10. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. The creator said - these are deterministic addresses with keys that are truncated to the right bits! I think it's true! The keys have no dependency and no logic! Not only were they randomly generated, they were also cut off after that!!! No need to look for a black cat in a dark room - especially if it's not a cat there!!)) Without hints to the main key - only bruteforce!!! It's very sad!
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Without hints to the main key - only bruteforce!!! It's very sad!
What hint do you need more than having such amounts which are directly pointing to the exact bit range where the keys reside? It is a game and a test, we play this game and they use our feedback to analyze the system. Have you missed the recent movements and the signs of improving the old tools to make them faster? If it wasn't for the latest prize increase, we'd be scratching our heads and using the old stuff without any serious improvements being done. Don't sit around and wait for others to come up with a solution, try 50 methods, if all of them failed try 50 more, we never achieve anything in life if we stop trying when we hit a dead end, finding a way around it is the challenge and that should be entertaining to find without frustration, don't worry no one is going to collect all the puzzles any time soon, we have time and we need to focus without stressing ourselves.😉
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Without hints to the main key - only bruteforce!!! It's very sad!
What hint do you need more than having such amounts which are directly pointing to the exact bit range where the keys reside? It is a game and a test, we play this game and they use our feedback to analyze the system. Have you missed the recent movements and the signs of improving the old tools to make them faster? If it wasn't for the latest prize increase, we'd be scratching our heads and using the old stuff without any serious improvements being done. Don't sit around and wait for others to come up with a solution, try 50 methods, if all of them failed try 50 more, we never achieve anything in life if we stop trying when we hit a dead end, finding a way around it is the challenge and that should be entertaining to find without frustration, don't worry no one is going to collect all the puzzles any time soon, we have time and we need to focus without stressing ourselves.😉 what improvements - an example is possible? He is a brute force on the moon - a brute force, and in Antarctica)) it all depends on the power of the GPUs and how many of them there are! I'm not a laboratory rabbit Roger - to test meaningless ranges on me! There is a science of mathematics - it clearly shows - an unthinkable time!! And this is an unthinkable time - it does not depend on the size of the prize in any way!!!
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I think when the creator increased the value of puzzle he was trying to give us some hint, by putting 0.09 bitcoin in puzzle1, maybe puzzle1's address or sha160 of the address or integer value of sha160 or its compressed or uncompressed Public's or public's integer, all this may be seed or there may be any relation with puzzle1, or there may be some conspiracy to mislead us.
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I think when the creator increased the value of puzzle he was trying to give us some hint, by putting 0.09 bitcoin in puzzle1, maybe puzzle1's address or sha160 of the address or integer value of sha160 or its compressed or uncompressed Public's or public's integer, all this may be seed or there may be any relation with puzzle1, or there may be some conspiracy to mislead us.
That's just wishful thinking. The most sane reason he/they did is because the " community" already discussed that puzzle 66+ is already hard enough to be worthy of that prize. Also, the creator ( for some reason) tends to include puzzle #1 whenever he decided to increase the prize. Like when he spent 161~256 and sent it to the previously unclaimed ranges, he included #1 to the recipient: 5d45587cfd1d5b0fb826805541da7d94c61fe432259e68ee26f4a04544384164
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@zahid888 My opinion on this puzzle creation main purpose is only to see how secure bitcoin private key, if key are less than 256 bits. specially 160 bits or less. Creator himself have lots of bitcoin to run & refill this challenge. There is no relation with random numbers to each others so far i can find. Each time any random number is created its use entry op for his startup then use that as starting point to encrypt next one.
Your last post about thiery of startup seed is not valid for my point of view, it may land same number on low bit due to not having big ranges on lower bits, but it will not help on 32 bit or higher.
So far only hope for this puzzle still relays on bruteforce,BSGS,lattice attack etc. still need tools like keyhunt or more ideas. Pools are good idea still no perfect way to divide range or split range with active users etc.
ps:i like to say thank you to creator only this way public can see bitcoin private key even 160 bit random is not possible to break, so 256 bit is impossible.
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What you should know, I believe Satoshi placed the keys at least in 50% + of each range, which makes solving them counterproductive financially.
Faith will move mountains, but knowledge will move them faster. The keys position within its range are randomly. You can proof yourself, just check the keys and calculate its position. That's no rocket science. Hint: look at puzzle 25, 31, 60, 63 to get a feeling of what a high position is and puzzles 38, 50, 85 to understand what a low position means ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There is no "narrowing the search range solution" for this. You wouldn't have solve the mentioned puzzle otherwise. The key positions for the known keys of today for this puzzle vary from 0.069 (puzzle 38) to 0.97 (puzzle 60), while disregarding puzzles 1-10. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I wrote a 190 line algorithm using python this morning. It reduces private keys in high bits to the range I want. For example, I reduced the 80-bit pubkey to 31-bit, this took 3 seconds and it took me 0 seconds to find it with bsgs. It found it while opening the program. My algorithm seems to be working. Just for mathematics, this is mathematics, I have been following this forum for 1 year and read articles on secp256k1 and tried to understand, then a month ago, lightning flashed in my head and I thought about the algorithm until today, finally I decided to write, as you said, faith moves mountains. I think bitcoin is not secure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I wrote a 190 line algorithm using python this morning. It reduces private keys in high bits to the range I want. For example, I reduced the 80-bit pubkey to 31-bit, this took 3 seconds and it took me 0 seconds to find it with bsgs. It found it while opening the program. My algorithm seems to be working. Just for mathematics, this is mathematics, I have been following this forum for 1 year and read articles on secp256k1 and tried to understand, then a month ago, lightning flashed in my head and I thought about the algorithm until today, finally I decided to write, as you said, faith moves mountains. I think bitcoin is not secure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) you are the hero of the day. The forum has been waiting for its messiah and finally you are here. Satoshi is already trembling. Thank you for this enlightment.
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I wrote a 190 line algorithm using python this morning. It reduces private keys in high bits to the range I want. For example, I reduced the 80-bit pubkey to 31-bit, this took 3 seconds and it took me 0 seconds to find it with bsgs. It found it while opening the program. My algorithm seems to be working. Just for mathematics, this is mathematics, I have been following this forum for 1 year and read articles on secp256k1 and tried to understand, then a month ago, lightning flashed in my head and I thought about the algorithm until today, finally I decided to write, as you said, faith moves mountains. I think bitcoin is not secure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) you are the hero of the day. The forum has been waiting for its messiah and finally you are here. Satoshi is already trembling. Thank you for this enlightment. Yes, yes, yes))) I am also a prophet!!! I even know how the new messiah will save us all!!! He will sell us a magic script for 1000 bitcoins - at a price of $ 100)))
What you should know, I believe Satoshi placed the keys at least in 50% + of each range, which makes solving them counterproductive financially.
Faith will move mountains, but knowledge will move them faster. The keys position within its range are randomly. You can proof yourself, just check the keys and calculate its position. That's no rocket science. Hint: look at puzzle 25, 31, 60, 63 to get a feeling of what a high position is and puzzles 38, 50, 85 to understand what a low position means ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There is no "narrowing the search range solution" for this. You wouldn't have solve the mentioned puzzle otherwise. The key positions for the known keys of today for this puzzle vary from 0.069 (puzzle 38) to 0.97 (puzzle 60), while disregarding puzzles 1-10. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I wrote a 190 line algorithm using python this morning. It reduces private keys in high bits to the range I want. For example, I reduced the 80-bit pubkey to 31-bit, this took 3 seconds and it took me 0 seconds to find it with bsgs. It found it while opening the program. My algorithm seems to be working. Just for mathematics, this is mathematics, I have been following this forum for 1 year and read articles on secp256k1 and tried to understand, then a month ago, lightning flashed in my head and I thought about the algorithm until today, finally I decided to write, as you said, faith moves mountains. I think bitcoin is not secure. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Give me a script in a personal message - I'll check! I'm a friend of Bill Gates - I don't need money))) just for the sake of checking all 190 lines!!))) what if you're wrong
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