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All keys are in 255 Bit , 256 bit is a mirrow
So are you suggesting that all the keys starting with 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e and f are all in 255 bit range and also all keys starting with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are as well in 255 bit? Whenever you see a private key starting with 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e, f, you can tell it's 255+ bit, even most of the keys starting with 7 are in 255+ bit. This is why I use hexadecimal over decimal, as it is easier to recognize patterns, but if you work with decimals, you can't even tell which number is greater than the other, but in hex you can count 2 by 2 to quickly determine the size and the exact range.
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July 13, 2023, 08:12:14 PM |
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All keys are in 255 Bit , 256 bit is a mirrow
So are you suggesting that all the keys starting with 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e and f are all in 255 bit range and also all keys starting with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are as well in 255 bit? Whenever you see a private key starting with 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e, f, you can tell it's 255+ bit, even most of the keys starting with 7 are in 255+ bit. This is why I use hexadecimal over decimal, as it is easier to recognize patterns, but if you work with decimals, you can't even tell which number is greater than the other, but in hex you can count 2 by 2 to quickly determine the size and the exact range. they are all in the 255 bit range, 256 bit is a mirror. a mathematical illusion. therefore any key in it is in 255 bit and 256 bit simultaneously.
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I'm not dead, long story... BTC bc1qxs47ttydl8tmdv8vtygp7dy76lvayz3r6rdahu
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July 13, 2023, 08:17:44 PM |
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if I have a pub key that represents an unknown pk1 pk1=957273957373958372947
my script reduces the bits for example to
pk2=958372947 that is, remove the first 12 numbers for the example.
Among approximately 1500 keys there is one of them true that corresponds, I look for the key by brute force and once I get pk2 it is easy to deduce the private key of pk1
@mcdouglasx: Hey man, please don't be offended by my request, but can you please give me the pubkeys that your script generate out of this pubkey? 0343b7d69e8372746596980d678d6cdecbffb2927916b3dbd3bc3d27bf5366b166 You can send me a DM with the results, I'm trying to make a test. Thanks in advance, cheers!. Have you thought about it? You can post them here if you prefer.
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July 13, 2023, 08:31:31 PM |
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if I have a pub key that represents an unknown pk1 pk1=957273957373958372947
my script reduces the bits for example to
pk2=958372947 that is, remove the first 12 numbers for the example.
Among approximately 1500 keys there is one of them true that corresponds, I look for the key by brute force and once I get pk2 it is easy to deduce the private key of pk1
@mcdouglasx: Hey man, please don't be offended by my request, but can you please give me the pubkeys that your script generate out of this pubkey? 0343b7d69e8372746596980d678d6cdecbffb2927916b3dbd3bc3d27bf5366b166 You can send me a DM with the results, I'm trying to make a test. Thanks in advance, cheers!. Have you thought about it? You can post them here if you prefer. Sorry, If I manage to solve any puzzle I will give all the information at the moment I do not have a good economic position for it. Anyone could add x quantity to the puzzle key, generating a different public key and camouflage the puzzle with it, and by giving them information I would be solving the puzzle without knowing it. then simply subtract that same amount from the camouflaged public key and go back to the puzzle and solve it.
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I'm not dead, long story... BTC bc1qxs47ttydl8tmdv8vtygp7dy76lvayz3r6rdahu
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July 13, 2023, 08:49:22 PM |
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Sorry, If I manage to solve any puzzle I will give all the information at the moment I do not have a good economic position for it.
Anyone could add x quantity to the puzzle key, generating a different public key and camouflage the puzzle with it, and by giving them information I would be solving the puzzle without knowing it.
then simply subtract that same amount from the camouflaged public key and go back to the puzzle and solve it.
Well, if that is really the problem, here is the private key for that public key: priv key HEX: 0x155d735095df3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da priv key DEC: 28399010381067550399127235982780880346 pub key: 0343b7d69e8372746596980d678d6cdecbffb2927916b3dbd3bc3d27bf5366b166 As you can see, I won't solve any puzzle with the info you provide; I only want to test if your script works or not. But if you decide not to test it with me, that's OK. Cheers.
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July 13, 2023, 10:06:26 PM |
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Sorry, If I manage to solve any puzzle I will give all the information at the moment I do not have a good economic position for it.
Anyone could add x quantity to the puzzle key, generating a different public key and camouflage the puzzle with it, and by giving them information I would be solving the puzzle without knowing it.
then simply subtract that same amount from the camouflaged public key and go back to the puzzle and solve it.
Well, if that is really the problem, here is the private key for that public key: priv key HEX: 0x155d735095df3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da priv key DEC: 28399010381067550399127235982780880346 pub key: 0343b7d69e8372746596980d678d6cdecbffb2927916b3dbd3bc3d27bf5366b166 As you can see, I won't solve any puzzle with the info you provide; I only want to test if your script works or not. But if you decide not to test it with me, that's OK. Cheers. With a known private key, each person can reduce the key to any size. Here is an example: 115 bit pub key: 02903740144e9f301f62362813dec638747153d4f18467f32286d09b9b4412768b priv key: 0x5735095df3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da 85 bit pub key: 02f50518c0b808dff5bd75f10e146d33677dccbfd18370e64be0c4cc36abc9675f priv key: 0x1f3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da 40 bit pub key: 03a0f8f7d72f6199bb09762c8500ed22eba5253f9661f752db338bbf5eeefb1852 priv key: 0xe4dfe955da By revealing the private key, you will not know whether the method works or not.
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July 13, 2023, 10:14:14 PM |
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Sorry, If I manage to solve any puzzle I will give all the information at the moment I do not have a good economic position for it.
Anyone could add x quantity to the puzzle key, generating a different public key and camouflage the puzzle with it, and by giving them information I would be solving the puzzle without knowing it.
then simply subtract that same amount from the camouflaged public key and go back to the puzzle and solve it.
Well, if that is really the problem, here is the private key for that public key: priv key HEX: 0x155d735095df3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da priv key DEC: 28399010381067550399127235982780880346 pub key: 0343b7d69e8372746596980d678d6cdecbffb2927916b3dbd3bc3d27bf5366b166 As you can see, I won't solve any puzzle with the info you provide; I only want to test if your script works or not. But if you decide not to test it with me, that's OK. Cheers. With a known private key, each person can reduce the key to any size. Here is an example: 115 bit pub key: 02903740144e9f301f62362813dec638747153d4f18467f32286d09b9b4412768b priv key: 0x5735095df3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da 85 bit pub key: 02f50518c0b808dff5bd75f10e146d33677dccbfd18370e64be0c4cc36abc9675f priv key: 0x1f3f8c24ee33e4dfe955da 40 bit pub key: 03a0f8f7d72f6199bb09762c8500ed22eba5253f9661f752db338bbf5eeefb1852 priv key: 0xe4dfe955da By revealing the private key, you will not know whether the method works or not. You are right, I didn't even think about it. On the other hand, I understand his point. I can make another pub key and see if he's willing to test his method with me or not.
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July 13, 2023, 10:41:30 PM |
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.... You are right, I didn't even think about it. On the other hand, I understand his point. I can make another pub key and see if he's willing to test his method with me or not.
Just sign a message with the privatekey to proof that you own the privatekey for the pubkey without exposing it. Post the signature with the used message. Without knowledge of the message the signature can be forged.
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July 13, 2023, 11:34:54 PM |
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For the love of Almighty God, for the love of everything, Please guys help me; someone help this newbie compile the ecctools made by Alberto for windows, https://github.com/albertobsd/ecctoolsI tried compiling myself but it fails. I don't know, I'm not programmer. Many thanks, Do I not have a compiled version on GitHub? If this is the one that also contains, BSGS, that’s the only program that doesn’t work on my compiled version.
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July 13, 2023, 11:56:21 PM |
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.... You are right, I didn't even think about it. On the other hand, I understand his point. I can make another pub key and see if he's willing to test his method with me or not.
Just sign a message with the privatekey to proof that you own the privatekey for the pubkey without exposing it. Post the signature with the used message. Without knowledge of the message the signature can be forged. Excellent idea!, thank you; now I just need to know if mcdouglasx is willing to play along.
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Let me explain you all guy how one can reduce bit size from 2^130 to near to 2^103. First of all you just focus on how much bits are reduced? around 26 bits right (The first one can always be subtracted from pub key). So how big is 2^26? 2**26 = 67108864 So these are the pub keys in which one of the key is under 2^103. The moment to try to go one single bit further, things are gonna get a little bulky. The trick is simple, you have 1 public key, add generator to it and now you have two public keys whose private keys for instance are 89 & 90 or 534354234384847 & 534354234384848. Why we do this? because we want to divide our public key to reduce its size and we don't know whether it is odd or even so add one to it and and now you have both. Now you divide both and you have one correct result and one incorrect. In second step you repeat the process of adding 1 to both of them and dividing 4 of them.. So this is like dividing pubkeys, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, .... yep,, you got it!!
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July 14, 2023, 09:11:22 AM |
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Do I not have a compiled version on GitHub?
Thank you so much @WanderingPhilospher for compiling. You indeed compiled them last year, but you only compiled 2 tools out of 8 tools that Alberto developed. Now after checking github, they re now completed. Thanks friend again!
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Nice to see this puzzle is still on going. It’s been years and I totally forgot about this.
So the conclusion until now is that it is only possible to crack the keys with brute force and no formula was found?
Was thinking to start working on this again but when I think of the amount of brain cells that are going to be destroyed I just shake it off.
What I could eventually do is provide some funds for funding of hardware or something needed.
Anyone thinks that with the help of some funds it can help to crack the case?
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July 14, 2023, 09:28:38 AM |
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Nice to see this puzzle is still on going. It’s been years and I totally forgot about this.
So the conclusion until now is that it is only possible to crack the keys with brute force and no formula was found?
Was thinking to start working on this again but when I think of the amount of brain cells that are going to be destroyed I just shake it off.
What I could eventually do is provide some funds for funding of hardware or something needed.
Anyone thinks that with the help of some funds it can help to crack the case?
OP! Bulista, Welcome back! Nice to meet you again mate, Glad to see you alive! Are you doing okay? There are currently no known formula and will probably not be one to be found for the puzzle private keys which did not reveal its public key. The only way to search and find 66 is the bruteforcing. HOWEVER: every 5 bits have their public key revealed which makes it easier to solve with a LOT of known and NOT known formulas for example Kangaroo made by Jan or BSGS (Baby Step). Nevertheless recently puzzle 120 and 125 got solved by the same persons or group of people which make us doubt that there are indeed a hidden formula that is being used to solve the puzzles that have their pub keys revealed by those unknown group of people. We believe the same solvers are currently trying to solve 130 now too. Which has over 13 BTC now. We are trying to fight them and take the coins before they take 3 prizes in a row. Keep in mined, the possible hidden formula applies only for the puzzles addresses, that haves their pub keys revealed. For 66, there is almost 100% certainty that it will not be possible to solve exepct by bruteforcing. Because its public key is not revelaed and the hash cannot be undone, so there is no way to escape.
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July 14, 2023, 09:44:53 AM |
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Nice to see this puzzle is still on going. It’s been years and I totally forgot about this.
So the conclusion until now is that it is only possible to crack the keys with brute force and no formula was found?
Was thinking to start working on this again but when I think of the amount of brain cells that are going to be destroyed I just shake it off.
What I could eventually do is provide some funds for funding of hardware or something needed.
Anyone thinks that with the help of some funds it can help to crack the case?
I can crack it with few funds, please enable me to do that,,, 1AfQHpdtZtMyf4F1H4CrVuvCwtX41rTxob
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July 14, 2023, 09:57:08 AM |
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Nice to see this puzzle is still on going. It’s been years and I totally forgot about this.
So the conclusion until now is that it is only possible to crack the keys with brute force and no formula was found?
Was thinking to start working on this again but when I think of the amount of brain cells that are going to be destroyed I just shake it off.
What I could eventually do is provide some funds for funding of hardware or something needed.
Anyone thinks that with the help of some funds it can help to crack the case?
Bro, I have been working on this puzzle for almost a year and I discovered various assumptions and successfully tested, which I am unable to share with any one just because someone with improved hardware can quickly reach it. I need your funding to upgrade the hardware. I am continuously checking my address: 1AfQHpdtZtMyf4F1H4CrVuvCwtX41rTxob
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July 14, 2023, 10:12:03 AM |
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Nice to see this puzzle is still on going. It’s been years and I totally forgot about this.
So the conclusion until now is that it is only possible to crack the keys with brute force and no formula was found?
Was thinking to start working on this again but when I think of the amount of brain cells that are going to be destroyed I just shake it off.
What I could eventually do is provide some funds for funding of hardware or something needed.
Anyone thinks that with the help of some funds it can help to crack the case?
I've been using Core i7 with two 1tb hard drive. If can get a change to upgrade my hardware to a decent GPU coupled with eight 1 tb hard drives, that would be enough for me to hunt this puzzle down... Please ENABLE ME to. Here is my wallet address again 1AfQHpdtZtMyf4F1H4CrVuvCwtX41rTxob
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July 14, 2023, 10:16:34 AM |
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NEVER SEND FUNDS TO UNKNOWN PEOPLE
Support only developers like Alberto or WanderingPhilosopher. These people are doing all the works development and improvement. Other people are just money beggers.
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Nevertheless recently puzzle 120 and 125 got solved by the same persons or group of people which make us doubt that there are indeed a hidden formula that is being used to solve the puzzles that have their pub keys revealed by those unknown group of people. We believe the same solvers are currently trying to solve 130 now too. Which has over 13 BTC now.
There is no hidden formula here. BSGS ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 14, 2023, 10:21:20 AM |
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NEVER SEND FUNDS TO UNKNOWN PEOPLE
Support only developers like Alberto or WanderingPhilosopher. These people are doing all the works development and improvement. Other people are just money beggers.
No one is begging here. OP himself asked if someone is in a position to solve the puzzle if he can upgrade the hardware. What makes you think like this. I respect all the developers, but it doesn't take someone else's right to take a chance on it. If I am not a developer, does it mean I should be dumped anyway.
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