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April 02, 2016, 01:06:54 PM
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America should really vote for trump unless they want to become the next Europe.

I agree with that. Voting Trump is the best way to not become the next Europe!
Which is a rather good argument to not vote for Trump IMHO though.


I agree with that too. Europe stays as is or worse and America becomes better and stronger.

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Not hard to become better and stronger when you're so weak and crappy xD





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April 02, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
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@jannn

http://m.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/wirtschaftliche-belastung-durch-fluechtlingskrise-14088839.html

The study you are talking about was payed by Bosch/public sector, i think they are scared about possible tax increase.

The numbers i read all say abot 8,5 to 10 billion per year what also make sense because germanys Länder and Kommunen are talking about around 10.000-12.000 € per person per year.
(They already prepapred 6.5+ billions the rest will come from the Bund)

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Why did you make a post willikon argh

Edit 2

I mean i had to edit my post to show it was an answer to jannn and not to you Smiley

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April 02, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
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@jannn

http://m.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/wirtschaftliche-belastung-durch-fluechtlingskrise-14088839.html

The study you are talking about was payed by Bosch/public sector, i think they are scared about possible tax increase.

The numbers i read all say abot 8,5 to 10 billion per year what also make sense because germanys Länder and Kommunen are talking about around 10.000-12.000 € per person per year.
(They already prepapred 6.5+ billions the rest will come from the Bund)

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Why did you make a post willikon argh


Don't mind me, please.

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April 02, 2016, 05:53:57 PM
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France: Exodus of 10,000 millionaires amid rising Muslim tensions
People who can, leave! I've seen friends leave Europe recently. Hard working tax paying people.

It is not just the rising Islamic extremism. France had experimented with the 75% tax-rate recently, and quite a few of the billionaires and other HNW individuals packed their bags and migrated to saner countries after it was implemented. But immigrant crime is still a very serious issue in France, and the situation seems to be worsening.
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April 02, 2016, 05:55:30 PM
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France: Exodus of 10,000 millionaires amid rising Muslim tensions
People who can, leave! I've seen friends leave Europe recently. Hard working tax paying people.

It is not just the rising Islamic extremism. France had experimented with the 75% tax-rate recently, and quite a few of the billionaires and other HNW individuals packed their bags and migrated to saner countries after it was implemented. But immigrant crime is still a very serious issue in France, and the situation seems to be worsening.


Yep.


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April 02, 2016, 08:40:17 PM
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France: Exodus of 10,000 millionaires amid rising Muslim tensions
People who can, leave! I've seen friends leave Europe recently. Hard working tax paying people.

It is not just the rising Islamic extremism. France had experimented with the 75% tax-rate recently, and quite a few of the billionaires and other HNW individuals packed their bags and migrated to saner countries after it was implemented. But immigrant crime is still a very serious issue in France, and the situation seems to be worsening.
isn't fair if you call immigrant crime still very serious issue in france, crime is crime no matter who is do that's violent local or immigrant. the question how is the best way to reduce a crime in this world.

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April 02, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
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France: Exodus of 10,000 millionaires amid rising Muslim tensions
People who can, leave! I've seen friends leave Europe recently. Hard working tax paying people.

It is not just the rising Islamic extremism. France had experimented with the 75% tax-rate recently, and quite a few of the billionaires and other HNW individuals packed their bags and migrated to saner countries after it was implemented. But immigrant crime is still a very serious issue in France, and the situation seems to be worsening.
isn't fair if you call immigrant crime still very serious issue in france, crime is crime no matter who is do that's violent local or immigrant. the question how is the best way to reduce a crime in this world.


Legal immigrants are fine and loved. Illegal criminals need to be dealt with. Won't you agree? Either you believe in numbers and statistics or you believe in magic tricks. You know perfectly there are places on this planet you will never venture. Why? Because you've seen the numbers, read the feedback, watch youtube videos of first hand witnesses. That is why you are safe behind your keyboard, and not risking your life to prove your point by putting everyone in the same bag.

You have a passport. An ID. It does not say "World" on it. You belong to a community. You have traditions, a culture. Why should I let you destroy my culture? Do you believe your culture is better than mine? Answering the question, does not matter how, tells me you believe there is a difference between local and... the world... This is why you vote, why you have the police, why you pay taxes to maintain an army, social services, etc. Because you belong to a community.


Stop paying taxes then if you are a world citizen. Stop using your credit card. Stop using a calendar.

This political correctness position is a cancer and your enemy knows it well, and is smart enough to use it against you.


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April 03, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
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Greece on brink of chaos as refugees riot over forced return to Turkey







The Greek government is bracing itself for violence ahead of the European Union implementing a landmark deal that, from Monday, will see Syrian refugees and migrants being deported back to Turkey en masse.

Related: EU-Turkey refugee plan could be illegal, says UN official

Rioting and rebellion by thousands of entrapped refugees across Greece has triggered mounting fears in Athens over the practicality of enforcing an agreement already marred by growing concerns over its legality. Islands have become flashpoints, with as many as 800 people breaking out of a detention centre on Chios on Friday.

Some 750 migrants are set to be sent back between Monday and Wednesday from the island of Lesbos to the Turkish port of Dikili.

“We are expecting violence. People in despair tend to be violent,” the leftist-led government’s migration spokesman, Giorgos Kyritsis, told the Observer. “The whole philosophy of the deal is to deter human trafficking [into Europe] from the Turkish coast, but it is going to be difficult and we are trying to use a soft approach. These are people have fled war. They are not criminals.”

Barely 24 hours ahead of the pact coming into force, it emerged that Frontex, the EU border agency, had not dispatched the appropriate personnel to oversee the operation. Eight Frontex boats will transport men, women and children, who are detained on Greek islands and have been selected for deportation, back across the Aegean following fast-track asylum hearings. But of the 2,300 officials the EU has promised to send Greece only 200 have so far arrived, Kyritsis admitted.

“We are still waiting for the legal experts and translators they said they would send,” he added. “Even Frontex personnel haven’t got here yet.” Humanitarian aid also earmarked for Greece had similarly been held up, with the result that the bankrupt country was managing the crisis – and continued refugee flows – on very limited funds from the state budget.

On Saturday overstretched resources were evident in the chaos on Chios where detainees, fearing imminent deportation, had not only run amok, breaking through razorwire enclosing a holding centre on the island, but in despair had marched on the town’s port. In the stampede three refugees were stabbed as riot police tried to control the crowds with stun guns and teargas. The camp, a former recycling factory, had been ransacked, with cabins and even fingerprint equipment smashed.

“If they make me go back to Turkey I’ll throw myself and my family into the sea,” said Mustafa, a Syrian waiting with his wife and children at the port of Chios told Agence France-Presse. “We went from hell to hell.”

“This is what happens when you have 30 policemen guarding 1,600 refugees determined to get out,” said Benjamin Julian, an Icelandic volunteer speaking from the island. “I witnessed it all and I know that all the time they were chanting ‘freedom, freedom, freedom’ and ‘no Torkia [Turkey], no Torkia’. That is what they want and are determined to get.”

In the mayhem that had ensued, panic-stricken local authorities had been forced to divert the daily ferry connecting the island with the mainland for fear it would be stormed.

Similar outbreaks of violence had also occurred in Piraeus, Athens’ port city, where eight young men had been taken to hospital after riots erupted between rival ethnic groups on Wednesday.

With tensions on the rise in Lesbos, the Aegean island that has borne the brunt of the flows, and in Idomeni on the Greek-Macedonia frontier where around 11,000 have massed since the border’s closure, NGOs warned of a timebomb in the making. Hopes of numbers decreasing following the announcement of the EU-Turkey deal have been dispelled by a renewed surge in arrivals with the onset of spring.

Official figures showed that 52,147 refugees and migrants were stranded in the country at the weekend, with 6,129 registered on Aegean islands that had been almost completely evacuated after the accord was reached on 20 March.. Last year, more than 1.1 million irregular migrants streamed into Europe with over 850,000 pouring into the continent through Greece.

Pleas from Athens to fellow EU member states to reopen the Balkan route have fallen on deaf ears.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/02/greece-violence-refugees-riot-forced-return-to-turkey


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April 04, 2016, 12:45:43 AM
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German Refugee Numbers Plunge Due To Balkan Route Border Controls…








The number of migrants entering Germany from Austria fell more than seven times in March to below 5,000 due to the introduction of border controls by countries along the Balkans migrant route, an interior ministry official said on Saturday.

Chancellor Angela Merkel is under pressure to deliver on a promise to slow arrivals of migrants and refugees after 1.1 million people entered Europe’s biggest economy last year, triggering fears about the cost and how to integrate them.

In February, 38,570 migrants arrived in Germany from Austria, already down sharply from 64,700 in January. Austria is the main entry point for migrants crossing into Germany.

Austria imposed border restrictions in February, causing a domino effect in Europe that left thousands of people — many fleeing war and violence in Syria and other countries — stranded in Greece.

Critical of the tighter border controls, Merkel is banking on a controversial EU-Turkey deal, which takes effect on Monday, designed to slow the flow of migrants into Western Europe.

The deal gives Turkey political and financial benefits in exchange for taking back refugees and migrants who cross to Greece, and critics fear it could make Europe take a softer line with Ankara on human rights issues.

Under the agreement, which would effectively seal off the main route by which a million migrants crossed the Aegean Sea to Greece last year, Germany is obliged to initially take 1,600 migrants and make available 13,500 places.


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April 04, 2016, 12:16:45 PM
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IS GERMANY FINALLY WAKING UP?










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April 04, 2016, 12:27:26 PM
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Violence Breaks Out at Austria-Italy Border Over New Immigration Controls







Demonstrations by pro-migrant social centers at the Austrian Brenner border with Italy tuned violent Sunday, with protesters hurling stones and flares at the Austrian police, injuring five officers, according to reports.


Some 700 protesters from Italy, Austria and Germany spent the day on Sunday at the Brenner Pass, publicly criticizing Austria’s plans to deploy soldiers at the Brenner border to deal with rising numbers of migrants trying to get to northern Europe.

The demonstrators gathered in front of the Italian train station near the crossing and from there marched across the border into Austria. A number of the protesters wore life jackets to call to mind the migrants who have drowned trying to cross the sea into Europe.

Austrian riot police numbered approximately 100 officers, aided by a helicopter, and the Red Cross was present with seven ambulances as well.

Austrian Defense Minister Hans Peter Doskozil announced Saturday that not only would Vienna tighten border controls, but that it would also enforce them with a military presence.

“As the EU’s external borders are not yet effectively protected, Austria will soon ramp up strict border controls. That means massive border controls at the Brenner (Pass), and with soldiers,” Doskozil said.

The number of migrants entering Germany from Austria fell sharply in March to below 5,000, the result of the closing of the “Balkan route” into northern Europe, but observers fear that desperate migrants will now focus on the central Mediterranean route up through Italy.

“We expect strong use to be made of the central Mediterranean route in the coming weeks,” said Doskozil. “When the weather gets better, these numbers will increase strongly.”

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Günther Platter, the governor of Tyrol, criticized the protesters’ use of violence against the police.

“Violence must be rejected in every way and it is not tolerable for the protesters to have attacked the police, who were committed to ensuring the peaceful outcome of the event,” he said.

None of us wanted checkpoints set up at Brenner, Platter said, but if European states are not able to secure external borders, Austria is forced to establish controls at its borders.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/04/violence-breaks-austria-italy-border-new-immigration-controls/


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April 04, 2016, 02:40:56 PM
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Air France Flight Attendants Furious Over Order For Women To Wear Headscarves

Female flight attendants employed by Air France are absolutely furious about new dress code policies that will be enforced when flights resume from Paris to Tehran next month. According to a Mashable report, female Air France flight attendants are going to be required to wear loose clothing and headscarves when working flights to and from the Iranian capital. Several unions are getting involved in the fight against the rules, and at least one union is reportedly reaching out to a government minister for help.

The Union des Navigants de l’Aviation Civile (UNAC) calls the new “modesty rules” that order headscarves and pants to be worn by female Air France flight attendants who fly to Iran “true threats to their dignity.” The union made the comments in a letter sent to Laurence Rossignal, France’s minister for women’s rights and families, on Friday.

Syndicat National du Personnel Navigant Commercial (SNPNC), another French union, similarly called out the new dress code order, calling the “modesty rules” (which are applicable only to women) “an attack on freedom of conscience and individual freedoms, and invasion of privacy.”

France is a highly diverse, secular nation, and has banned women from wearing full body veils and hijabs in public. In Iran, women are required by law to cover their hair.


http://www.inquisitr.com/2957223/air-france-flight-attendants-furious-over-order-for-women-to-wear-headscarves/


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April 04, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants
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April 04, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants


Yes. Europe needs productive, legal migrants who respect women and respect the inviting cultures. Why is this so hard to understand? You respect women don't you? Do you want people to respect your home?

Easy answer.


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April 04, 2016, 06:21:22 PM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants


PICTURES: Migrants Threaten To Kill Themselves And Their Children If Sent Back To Turkey






http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/04/pictures-migrants-threaten-kill-children-sent-back-turkey/


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April 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants


PICTURES: Migrants Threaten To Kill Themselves And Their Children If Sent Back To Turkey

EU cares more about their lives than they do. It is pure blackmail. And about time Europe starts using all necessary force to keep them out.
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April 05, 2016, 04:36:08 AM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants


PICTURES: Migrants Threaten To Kill Themselves And Their Children If Sent Back To Turkey

EU cares more about their lives than they do. It is pure blackmail. And about time Europe starts using all necessary force to keep them out.


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April 06, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
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Europe prepares its own end by pushing refugees away. But their population decreases day by day.Therefore they need migrants

In a few of the European nations, the population is declining due to low birth rates (examples are Germany, Austria, Bulgaria, Romania.etc). That said, in the vast majority of the EU nations, the number of births is higher than that of the deaths (United Kingdom, Ireland, France, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland.etc).

Therefore, they DONT need migrants.
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