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June 01, 2016, 07:34:59 PM
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Interesting post...makes me wonder why he posted it...

Would be nice to get Max to comment on it.

Yes, it was an interesting read - tho' I have to admit that I couldn't make sense of the code. Is it C++ v.2013?






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June 01, 2016, 07:39:03 PM
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Probably right, he has also been writing about how The DAO is 'dead on arrival' recently, so he seems to be on a binge of knocking more successful projects.

Critics... Wink

To give him his due, his knock-the-competition posts do have real substance in them. But overall, he's "interested" in competing projects to see if he can make Bitshares & its offshoots more competitive. That's a reason to respect him, to be frank, as it shows his commitment to his own project.






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June 01, 2016, 07:41:43 PM
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LISK is rising! Smiley

In my opinion, waves is overbought!!!

many guys from waves will change to LISK in the future!
waves start with zero at the moment, and it will time maybe over 1 or 2 years that the waves participant get a return.
Lisk has already finished the code  Grin

Here is Max Kordek in a live interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOMT6-VgjhM&feature=youtu.be

very interesting!!!



why is Max not wearing a Lisk tee shirt for this interview? is it a Coinbase tee? he needs a good talking to.

this interviewer knows nothing - "Lisk is a fork of Ethereum".

Because when @punkrock was selling t-shirts, ICO funds were still blocked.


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Probably right, he has also been writing about how The DAO is 'dead on arrival' recently, so he seems to be on a binge of knocking more successful projects.

Even if he's not writing that to knock the competition, he's best known for dismally failing to make good ideas successful. He's a genius programmer and visionary who is absolutely not cut out for management / leading a project, unfortunately, and has no ability to judge the market, so I wouldn't trust his opinion on what is or is not going to be successful.

LOL, very well said.

I read that before and got a bit of a "he is taking something personal" message from his writing, as opposed to a more fact based one. Like he was writing SOME selected facts to support his emotions, instead of just sticking to the facts and being more rounded in opinion and less biased.

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June 01, 2016, 08:38:25 PM
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Looks like this is a solid floor...going to go green any time now. LISK has massive potential IMO. It will co exist along side ETH. Take a look at my post history... Page 15 Ive called every ETH rise since it started at 80 cents...even before page 15 if you want to dig even deeper. LISK will see 200k SAT this year. If not more. The demand will grow over the summer. ETH and LISK will both push blockchain tech to the next level. I suspect ETH will be used by different people and LISK will be used by others just as apple and windows are both used by people...maybe not the best analogy but something like that...


PREDICTION: ETH will fall to 10-8 USD as LISK rises to .80 - 2 USD

The market will find balance. Its only a matter of time.

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/dave-east-bad-boy-on-death-row-feat-the-game-new-song.1969901.html


Lol no balance at all.. Dont try to push market with silly pictures. Market is not in bullish condition at all!


edit: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bullmarket.asp
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lisk 5 dollar tomorrow.

watch any video of max and you see he is a real crypto genius. tomorrow all will be amaze.
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http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/tyga-cash-money-new-song.1969866.html
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June 01, 2016, 08:51:49 PM
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Heads up! Waves ICO is fianlly over.

Lot of ICO junkies were selling their Lisk to hop on Waves ICO train, but that sell pressure on Lisk is now over.

Lisk price will start heading up from here.




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I have a same tought as you Smiley


Also, Lisk is DPoS, so no daily dumping by mining farms like ETH PoW

Lisk will soon head back above 0.00100.


Not really, DPoS generates coins just like mining.

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the floor is here, the only way is up
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June 01, 2016, 09:05:08 PM
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LISK may end up being better to hold than ETH in the long run. Very interesting time for crypto indeed.

Also the fact that it is less inflationary helps.

As the Bitcoin halving approaches we could witness one of the most epic Alt coin rises since ETH.
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Probably right, he has also been writing about how The DAO is 'dead on arrival' recently, so he seems to be on a binge of knocking more successful projects.

Even if he's not writing that to knock the competition, he's best known for dismally failing to make good ideas successful. He's a genius programmer and visionary who is absolutely not cut out for management / leading a project, unfortunately, and has no ability to judge the market, so I wouldn't trust his opinion on what is or is not going to be successful.


Some answers in a conversation about the article:


Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



You are completely wrong. Your comment is fundamentally flawed. You don't seem to understand anything about scalability.

For App developpers of all sizes and shapes, Lisk presents several advantages... I'll just name a few quickly:

1. LISK side chains design is specifically more scalable for for serious applications, than Etheruem's design of forcing all applications on one bloated mainchain.

2. Cost per App usage is defined by App developpers in Lisk, while it is defined by miners in Ethereum

3. Apps can be easily deployed via Lisk SDK, while developpers have to connect to multiple smart contracts to build a Dapp for Ethereum

4. JavaScript is certainly easier & far more commonly used than Ethereum's Solidity Language

Also... comparing Lisk to Dogecoin is like comparing a V12 car to a barbie toy car.



Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



1. The points which are made in the blog-post (which I already know) are most likely true but it doesn't describe fundamentally flaws. And to speak about a "late stage" is kind of hilarious.

2. While the blog-post mentions some points that really need to be addressed, it's also obvious that it comes from a competitor and is in fact PR for Steem while using Lisks spotlight.

3. It's kind of revealing to use a brand-new account with a 14-post-history of bashing Lisk. ;-)


Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



Reverse FUD or what? The guy who wrote the article should know that Lisk is for Blockchain Apps and Scalability. If you try to make an app on the Eth platform you will need to compile a lot of contracts, and even for smart contracts Eth is a problem:

Costs vs. Benefits: My Experience with an Ethereum Smart Contract (The Daily Decrypt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_90Y8mw_HVY
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I think this is the official YouTube channel of Lisk.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuqpGfg_bOQ8Ja4pj811PWg

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Probably right, he has also been writing about how The DAO is 'dead on arrival' recently, so he seems to be on a binge of knocking more successful projects.

Even if he's not writing that to knock the competition, he's best known for dismally failing to make good ideas successful. He's a genius programmer and visionary who is absolutely not cut out for management / leading a project, unfortunately, and has no ability to judge the market, so I wouldn't trust his opinion on what is or is not going to be successful.


Some answers in a conversation about the article:


Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



You are completely wrong. Your comment is fundamentally flawed. You don't seem to understand anything about scalability.

For App developpers of all sizes and shapes, Lisk presents several advantages... I'll just name a few quickly:

1. LISK side chains design is specifically more scalable for for serious applications, than Etheruem's design of forcing all applications on one bloated mainchain.

2. Cost per App usage is defined by App developpers in Lisk, while it is defined by miners in Ethereum

3. Apps can be easily deployed via Lisk SDK, while developpers have to connect to multiple smart contracts to build a Dapp for Ethereum

4. JavaScript is certainly easier & far more commonly used than Ethereum's Solidity Language

Also... comparing Lisk to Dogecoin is like comparing a V12 car to a barbie toy car.



Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



1. The points which are made in the blog-post (which I already know) are most likely true but it doesn't describe fundamentally flaws. And to speak about a "late stage" is kind of hilarious.

2. While the blog-post mentions some points that really need to be addressed, it's also obvious that it comes from a competitor and is in fact PR for Steem while using Lisks spotlight.

3. It's kind of revealing to use a brand-new account with a 14-post-history of bashing Lisk. ;-)


Good analysis. The main problem is that LISK is fundamentally flawed. It cannot be taken seriously or used for serious application. Perhaps this is by design?  It would require a complete re-coding by experts to make it sound enough to be beneficial to big business. Otherwise it can remain what it is, a fun small time application for the masses without serious consequences should it break.  Call it a 2016 DODGE coin  now with fun applications for the masses. As such it is at best a USD0.50 coin tops. Nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with catering to the masses in a light weight fun way which is what LISK does and will do. As detailed below to re-write of the code for serious applications seems too daunting at this late stage. Comparison to Ethereum has always been ludicrous. There is a reason the language was invented in their case to operate on the blockchain.  LISK is its own thing and has its followers and community just like DODGE, it will come out with fun apps for them, games and other neato javascript things, just how javascript in the early days did the same on the web.  It won't and cannot do something like this for sure:

http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-identity-platform-multiple-blockchains/

We are talking serious matters like banking, identity, country voting etc. LISK has its place in this new era and can do well in it with what it is and what it does.

reference point to inherent flaw in LISK:

https://steemit.com/lisk/@dan/why-lisk-is-inferior-to-ethereum



Reverse FUD or what? The guy who wrote the article should know that Lisk is for Blockchain Apps and Scalability. If you try to make an app on the Eth platform you will need to compile a lot of contracts, and even for smart contracts Eth is a problem:

Costs vs. Benefits: My Experience with an Ethereum Smart Contract (The Daily Decrypt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_90Y8mw_HVY

BOTTOM LINE: Each platform ETH and LISK will be used by different people for different reasons. Both will have value and use case.
Looks like this is a solid floor...going to go green any time now. LISK has massive potential IMO. It will co exist along side ETH. Take a look at my post history... Page 15 Ive called every ETH rise since it started at 80 cents...even before page 15 if you want to dig even deeper. LISK will see 200k SAT this year. If not more. The demand will grow over the summer. ETH and LISK will both push blockchain tech to the next level. I suspect ETH will be used by different people and LISK will be used by others just as apple and windows are both used by people...maybe not the best analogy but something like that...


PREDICTION: ETH will fall to 10-8 USD as LISK rises to .80 - 2 USD

The market will find balance. Its only a matter of time.

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/dave-east-bad-boy-on-death-row-feat-the-game-new-song.1969901.html
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June 01, 2016, 09:39:21 PM
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lisk is the only coin moving rigth now, many in the trollbox expect an announcement
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Probably wont be big news...maybe the roadmap if we are lucky..

The conference was more of a networking event. Nothing usually to report but I'm sure they networked with great people. People who may decide to invest or write about LISK.
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there is a talk about microsoft investing. I personally see this only as rumours. Until of course it's true  Cool
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How about creating a proposal for a StackExchange Q&A site for Lisk?

http://area51.stackexchange.com/

Example of what a StackExchange is:

http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/

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there is a talk about microsoft investing. I personally see this only as rumours. Until of course it's true  Cool

where did you here this news or rumor?
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there is a talk about microsoft investing. I personally see this only as rumours. Until of course it's true  Cool

They already have a partnership with MS, doesn't mean its the actual company buying.

Unless Mr. Gates is bored on a wednesday I guess.

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there is a talk about microsoft investing. I personally see this only as rumours. Until of course it's true  Cool
c'mon dude...
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