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March 13, 2018, 04:11:00 AM
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we lost more than 30% in one week i didnt know why!! the market act like crazy man
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March 13, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
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we lost more than 30% in one week i didnt know why!! the market act like crazy man

Most Alt coins lost about that much and BTC ~17%. It is a correction. That is crypto with lots of FUD:

1) Mt. Gox BTC selling
2) SEC statements
3) Binance Via hack
4) Tax payment season in the US
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March 13, 2018, 10:49:15 AM
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we lost more than 30% in one week i didnt know why!! the market act like crazy man

Most Alt coins lost about that much and BTC ~17%. It is a correction. That is crypto with lots of FUD:

1) Mt. Gox BTC selling
2) SEC statements
3) Binance Via hack
4) Tax payment season in the US

Rather have it all at once and then we head to the moon again Wink
I'm not even sure if the MtGox sales are really a big influence to the price but for sure it causes unrest on the market.
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March 13, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

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March 13, 2018, 05:26:28 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
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Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.
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March 13, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.


IF they do that then we are all screwed on many coins in that AIRDROPPED FORKS like Bitcoin Cash BCH or Litecoin Cash LCC or any other forked coin would be a real mess...

at last count there are more than 20 BTC forks that payout...this would be ugly and a quick way to destroy crypto in the USA....as an example of above, I'd owe more than

$40,000 counting LISK in this from when the various forked coins worth hit the world (as an example BCH hit the world at $280 each) and of course the LISK staking and other

staking coins.

Everyone would have to sell main parts of main coin hoard of many crypto flavors....driving the price into the dirt for all coins, to catch up on if this stuff was suddenly taxable.

IRS guidelines in the USA as an example dumped on the world 10 days before April 15th, 2014, deadline and went back to 2009....pay asap, please Sad

anyway, if LISK staking is a problem to the SEC then forks of $$$ falling out of the sky on to my many blockchains is also a problem ...indeed much bigger...

anyway, hopefully, I'm wrong...but that would toss quite the wrench into our plans for crypto..this worse case idea.(Hopefully my fantasy)


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March 13, 2018, 06:41:32 PM
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the world is a bigger than the USA.
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March 13, 2018, 06:42:32 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.


IF they do that then we are all screwed on many coins in that AIRDROPPED FORKS like Bitcoin Cash BCH or Litecoin Cash LCC or any other forked coin would be a real mess...

at last count there are more than 20 BTC forks that payout...this would be ugly and a quick way to destroy crypto in the USA....as an example of above, I'd owe more than

$40,000 counting LISK in this from when the various forked coins worth hit the world (as an example BCH hit the world at $280 each) and of course the LISK staking and other

staking coins.

Everyone would have to sell main parts of main coin hoard of many crypto flavors....driving the price into the dirt for all coins, to catch up on if this stuff was suddenly taxable.

IRS guidelines in the USA as an example dumped on the world 10 days before April 15th, 2014, deadline and went back to 2009....pay asap, please Sad

anyway, if LISK staking is a problem to the SEC then forks of $$$ falling out of the sky on to my many blockchains is also a problem ...indeed much bigger...

anyway, hopefully, I'm wrong...but that would toss quite the wrench into our plans for crypto..this worse case idea.(Hopefully my fantasy)



Yea, worse case, but one more thing to worry about. Hopefully the US gov will be happy with the tax revenue from crypto and be cooperative with regulation (which is what I expect).
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March 13, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
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the world is a bigger than the USA.

Of course it is, but one countries FUD can have a big impact on valuations. Remember the China FUD.
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March 13, 2018, 07:10:58 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.


IF they do that then we are all screwed on many coins in that AIRDROPPED FORKS like Bitcoin Cash BCH or Litecoin Cash LCC or any other forked coin would be a real mess...

at last count there are more than 20 BTC forks that payout...this would be ugly and a quick way to destroy crypto in the USA....as an example of above, I'd owe more than

$40,000 counting LISK in this from when the various forked coins worth hit the world (as an example BCH hit the world at $280 each) and of course the LISK staking and other

staking coins.

Everyone would have to sell main parts of main coin hoard of many crypto flavors....driving the price into the dirt for all coins, to catch up on if this stuff was suddenly taxable.

IRS guidelines in the USA as an example dumped on the world 10 days before April 15th, 2014, deadline and went back to 2009....pay asap, please Sad

anyway, if LISK staking is a problem to the SEC then forks of $$$ falling out of the sky on to my many blockchains is also a problem ...indeed much bigger...

anyway, hopefully, I'm wrong...but that would toss quite the wrench into our plans for crypto..this worse case idea.(Hopefully my fantasy)



Yea, worse case, but one more thing to worry about. Hopefully the US gov will be happy with the tax revenue from crypto and be cooperative with regulation (which is what I expect).



From what I can tell.....murky as my view is....1/2 the tax folk in USA think LISK type STAKING is INCOME.the other threads I've read etc say NO...I did count lisk as income, as such in 2017 for taxes...my CPA said it was NOT..so I took it out

so toss a coin, remember nothing is clear tax wise in USA...the 2013 Tax Guidelines are pretty much it....and they are, as my CPA say, guidelines..not hard and fast solid rules yet.

As to the forked coins to my chain, that I had nothing to do with about $$$ on paper falling from the sky on to my blockchain address...er...my CPA says that LIKELY the IRS

will treat that as just ..I think she said like a 'stock split' and or growth ..so IF I don't spend any of it I"m golden

Everyone in USA is confused on how to follow tax law on crypto...it is very murky..this is why I spent $2k to the CPA last year, $775 for the taxes done..the other was guestions

on what to do with crypto and stuff like above....Main reason I paid the CPA this amount of $$$, was I damn well want to explain to SOMEONE, like a CPA what I'm doing and have

them think it is reasonable and also sign off on my income tax forms....(it is so lonely otherwise) ....so at least I can show my INTENT is good..even if they say someday I owe something...

or some such...it is quite the cluster




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March 13, 2018, 07:21:38 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.


IF they do that then we are all screwed on many coins in that AIRDROPPED FORKS like Bitcoin Cash BCH or Litecoin Cash LCC or any other forked coin would be a real mess...

at last count there are more than 20 BTC forks that payout...this would be ugly and a quick way to destroy crypto in the USA....as an example of above, I'd owe more than

$40,000 counting LISK in this from when the various forked coins worth hit the world (as an example BCH hit the world at $280 each) and of course the LISK staking and other

staking coins.

Everyone would have to sell main parts of main coin hoard of many crypto flavors....driving the price into the dirt for all coins, to catch up on if this stuff was suddenly taxable.

IRS guidelines in the USA as an example dumped on the world 10 days before April 15th, 2014, deadline and went back to 2009....pay asap, please Sad

anyway, if LISK staking is a problem to the SEC then forks of $$$ falling out of the sky on to my many blockchains is also a problem ...indeed much bigger...

anyway, hopefully, I'm wrong...but that would toss quite the wrench into our plans for crypto..this worse case idea.(Hopefully my fantasy)



Yea, worse case, but one more thing to worry about. Hopefully the US gov will be happy with the tax revenue from crypto and be cooperative with regulation (which is what I expect).



From what I can tell.....murky as my view is....1/2 the tax folk in USA think LISK type STAKING is INCOME.the other threads I've read etc say NO...I did count lisk as income, as such in 2017 for taxes...my CPA said it was NOT..so I took it out

so toss a coin, remember nothing is clear tax wise in USA...the 2013 Tax Guidelines are pretty much it....and they are, as my CPA say, guidelines..not hard and fast solid rules yet.

As to the forked coins to my chain, that I had nothing to do with about $$$ on paper falling from the sky on to my blockchain address...er...my CPA says that LIKELY the IRS

will treat that as just ..I think she said like a 'stock split' and or growth ..so IF I don't spend any of it I"m golden

Everyone in USA is confused on how to follow tax law on crypto...it is very murky..this is why I spent $2k to the CPA last year, $775 for the taxes done..the other was guestions

on what to do with crypto and stuff like above....Main reason I paid the CPA this amount of $$$, was I damn well want to explain to SOMEONE, like a CPA what I'm doing and have

them think it is reasonable and also sign off on my income tax forms....(it is so lonely otherwise) ....so at least I can show my INTENT is good..even if they say someday I owe something...

or some such...it is quite the cluster


Sorry, I strong disagree with your CPA. I did a lot of research and are sure DPOS is income. I entered it as other income. The IRS is going to want to know your cost basis and origin when you sell, what are you going to put down?
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March 13, 2018, 07:24:17 PM
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Would you really say
2) SEC statements
is FUD and has no influence?

Yes, because they may define a dividend paying token like a Lisk, a security, thus it may need to be pulled from many exchanges. Most likely they will give exchanges a grandfather period to adapt and upgrade to allow securities.


IF they do that then we are all screwed on many coins in that AIRDROPPED FORKS like Bitcoin Cash BCH or Litecoin Cash LCC or any other forked coin would be a real mess...

at last count there are more than 20 BTC forks that payout...this would be ugly and a quick way to destroy crypto in the USA....as an example of above, I'd owe more than

$40,000 counting LISK in this from when the various forked coins worth hit the world (as an example BCH hit the world at $280 each) and of course the LISK staking and other

staking coins.

Everyone would have to sell main parts of main coin hoard of many crypto flavors....driving the price into the dirt for all coins, to catch up on if this stuff was suddenly taxable.

IRS guidelines in the USA as an example dumped on the world 10 days before April 15th, 2014, deadline and went back to 2009....pay asap, please Sad

anyway, if LISK staking is a problem to the SEC then forks of $$$ falling out of the sky on to my many blockchains is also a problem ...indeed much bigger...

anyway, hopefully, I'm wrong...but that would toss quite the wrench into our plans for crypto..this worse case idea.(Hopefully my fantasy)



Yea, worse case, but one more thing to worry about. Hopefully the US gov will be happy with the tax revenue from crypto and be cooperative with regulation (which is what I expect).



From what I can tell.....murky as my view is....1/2 the tax folk in USA think LISK type STAKING is INCOME.the other threads I've read etc say NO...I did count lisk as income, as such in 2017 for taxes...my CPA said it was NOT..so I took it out

so toss a coin, remember nothing is clear tax wise in USA...the 2013 Tax Guidelines are pretty much it....and they are, as my CPA say, guidelines..not hard and fast solid rules yet.

As to the forked coins to my chain, that I had nothing to do with about $$$ on paper falling from the sky on to my blockchain address...er...my CPA says that LIKELY the IRS

will treat that as just ..I think she said like a 'stock split' and or growth ..so IF I don't spend any of it I"m golden

Everyone in USA is confused on how to follow tax law on crypto...it is very murky..this is why I spent $2k to the CPA last year, $775 for the taxes done..the other was guestions

on what to do with crypto and stuff like above....Main reason I paid the CPA this amount of $$$, was I damn well want to explain to SOMEONE, like a CPA what I'm doing and have

them think it is reasonable and also sign off on my income tax forms....(it is so lonely otherwise) ....so at least I can show my INTENT is good..even if they say someday I owe something...

or some such...it is quite the cluster


Sorry, I strong disagree with your CPA. I did a lot of research and are sure DPOS is income. I entered it as other income. The IRS is going to want to know your cost basis and origin when you sell, what are you going to put down?


when it hit the world...on my blockchain...but if you are correct ...I should be counting it as MINING...and if I count this a mining then ALL stuff that hits my blockchain is mining...

indluding forked coins (on btc can't even keep track of supposed paper profits when it hit the chain)

if I have to fix it after the fact I will ..with IRS ..but no clarity on this in any form...is it mining..is it just like a stock split (growth) what is it exactly

anyway, does not amount to much, if I do have to fix it some day on a clarification...on any IRS clarification they seem to go back to 2009 anyway ...


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March 14, 2018, 06:51:40 AM
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Gonna pledge my vote on liskascend, 3,583,605 Lisk Pledged, 21,521,636 Lisk Still Required. Also like the Lisk.support Estimation Challenge and a chance to win ~ 100 USD in LSK.

 
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March 14, 2018, 09:56:55 AM
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At CryptoCalendar a lot of events upcoming.  https://tothemoon.live/?IsPast=False&Page=1&Month=0&Year=0&CoinTypes=Lisk+%28LSK%29&SortBy=0

price should grow 10x!
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March 14, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
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Gonna pledge my vote on liskascend, 3,583,605 Lisk Pledged, 21,521,636 Lisk Still Required. Also like the Lisk.support Estimation Challenge and a chance to win ~ 100 USD in LSK.

 


Agreed, they seem like a transparent fair delegate, I pledged as well.
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March 14, 2018, 11:09:52 AM
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How much does it cost to vote for lisk delegates?
Is there minum amount of lisk that I need to own?
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March 14, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
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https://tothemoon.live/?IsPast=False&Page=1&Month=0&Year=0&CoinTypes=Lisk+%28LSK%29&SortBy=0
lot of lisk events in march. It is a good news!!
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March 15, 2018, 06:47:56 AM
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How much does it cost to vote for lisk delegates?
1 Lisk dude but you can vote for 33 delegates of your choice in the same time.
Is there minum amount of lisk that I need to own?
Nope but some delegates required voters to owned a specific amount of Lisk to get rewards on their forge delegates.
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Last edit: March 15, 2018, 08:27:52 AM by bitcoinbox
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Lisk team is working hard.
Check out Github commit history of 577 cryptocurrencies based on most popular repo

https://cryptomiso.com/

The only thing that disapoint me is their communication on Twitter.
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March 15, 2018, 08:08:56 AM
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📸 Another great #Lisk spot in the world of gaming, this time in @Battlefield 1! 🎮 Shout out to redditor 'AtomTanNZ' for sharing - he's currently looking for Clan members so shoot him a message if you play BF1 too.
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