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February 19, 2016, 09:07:05 AM
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Signature added !  Wink

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February 19, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
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Intriguing. I'll keep my eyes on this the coming days. What's with that LISK sig btw  Huh
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You can insert the Lisk signature into your Bitcointalk signature and later on earn a bounty for that.
why no list of participants signatures Lisk, so we could see our username participated to this campaign
piebeyb,I agree with you,would like to ask the same question.

I agree. We can show the Bitcointalk signatures because there is no conflict of privacy in this case.

Click here: https://drive.google.com/a/lisk.io/file/d/0B7DjyOJhmpJkNDdxckYtaXpfSXM/view


If you are not on the list then please note that there are only the names for week 1 and 2 listed. Many of you came after that and you will be on the list next week.
yeah least it could help the other see where they are on signatures in a campaign of this project, I believe that you notice it, good luck with this project and I became part of this thread, success for all the team and this community, cheers

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February 19, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
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This weeks bounty summary:

I just wrote down all Facebook likers (110 stakes), Twitter followers (302 stakes), Newsletter subscribers (955 stakes), Signature participants (93 stakes) and translators (27 stakes).

Week #1 Values

Please note that there is an unusual high number of newsletter subscribers. We suspect that these are fake emails. We are using Mailchimp to send out our newsletters, and we can see user ratings there. That means we can see if a user is reading a newsletter or not. At the end of the newsletter bounty campaign we can filter out all fake emails this way.

Here you can view the signature stakes for the second week. The other lists won't be released, because there exists a privacy conflict.

Thank you very much.

I can't see me on these sig stats?? please can you review this. thanks.

I will add you, as I know that you added it before. Seems like your signature slipped through. Even though I wish you would make it more beautiful. I know the life as a "newbie" rank member is hard here.  Cheesy


Tomorrow you will find yourself on this list for week 2.

thanks very much I am following this project keenly. I am actually a hero member but they hacked my account. theymos is hopefully going to give it back to me soon.

another question is i don't have any facebook or social media since my gf deleted it all and changed the emails. Can i get credits for getting other people to give facebook likes and messaging you?

Sorry to hear that. Wish you the best!

You can't get bounty stakes for other people you convinced to like/follow Lisk. Sorry. Smiley


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I am reading Whitepaper and Developing section (https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-dapps-docs/README) now.
But I don't find a way to prevent dapps from change by owner.

As example: someone created list-btc exchange dapp. Customers inspect the source of dapp and
don't find something worried. Code is clear and safe. They send funds (lisk, btc) to dapp.

Can dapps owner change the dapp code and steal the funds?
What will happen with the funds If the dapp stops working?
Are there some way to prevent dapp from change by owner?
Can I create a trustful dapp secured by mainchain?

By tomorrow I have updated the whitepaper. Smiley



"Dapp owners": Is the person who developed the decentralized application and I presume he also has at least 1 master node running. (WRITE/READ)

"Dapp master node": One of maximum 101 sidechain forgers. (WRITE/READ)

"Dapp user": Regular user who is simply running the dapp. (READ-only)


Let's say in our scenario there are 101 sidechain master nodes, this is the best case and equals Lisk itself. There are now different scenarios.

Dapp owner changes the source code on e.g. GitHub: This can be seen as a regular update for the dapp, either soft or hard fork. Similar to an update for crypto-currencies. The network itself isn't affected as long as nodes don't update.

Dapp owner/any master node owner changes only the source code on his own master node: Here it matters where he made the changes. If the changes are in non-critical areas (I can't define the critical areas in general, e.g. a critical area is block generation, a non-critical is frontend) nothing happens and he can still participate as a sidechain forger. However, if a critical area is affected his generated blocks won't be accepted by the sidechain and he will land on a fork. The whole network won't fork here, only his own node.

Many master nodes update to latest hard fork version:

x nodes: There will be two networks active. One on the majority and one on the minority of the master nodes. Users will have to choose which fork they chose.

nearly all nodes: A huge majority inherently decides which fork is the "main" path. Therefore this can be seen as a hard fork which may occur with regular updates. (e.g. at Bitcoin the increase of Block size)

Many individual dapp users change their dapp: Nothing happens to the network itself, because these users don't generate new sidechain blocks.



So, in conclusion this is exactly the same behaviour as in crypto-currencies like Bitcoin or Nxt. If a dapp owner wants to introduce new features he should do it with milestones, that means at a certain blockchain height the new feature will be activated. This way the master nodes have a certain timeframe to switch to the update (or may decide against it).

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February 19, 2016, 10:54:14 AM
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This weeks bounty summary:

I just wrote down all Facebook likers (110 stakes), Twitter followers (302 stakes), Newsletter subscribers (955 stakes), Signature participants (93 stakes) and translators (27 stakes).

Week #1 Values

Please note that there is an unusual high number of newsletter subscribers. We suspect that these are fake emails. We are using Mailchimp to send out our newsletters, and we can see user ratings there. That means we can see if a user is reading a newsletter or not. At the end of the newsletter bounty campaign we can filter out all fake emails this way.

Here you can view the signature stakes for the second week. The other lists won't be released, because there exists a privacy conflict.

Thank you very much.

I can't see me on these sig stats?? please can you review this. thanks.

I will add you, as I know that you added it before. Seems like your signature slipped through. Even though I wish you would make it more beautiful. I know the life as a "newbie" rank member is hard here.  Cheesy


Tomorrow you will find yourself on this list for week 2.

thanks very much I am following this project keenly. I am actually a hero member but they hacked my account. theymos is hopefully going to give it back to me soon.

another question is i don't have any facebook or social media since my gf deleted it all and changed the emails. Can i get credits for getting other people to give facebook likes and messaging you?

Sorry to hear that. Wish you the best!

You can't get bounty stakes for other people you convinced to like/follow Lisk. Sorry. Smiley


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I am reading Whitepaper and Developing section (https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-dapps-docs/README) now.
But I don't find a way to prevent dapps from change by owner.

As example: someone created list-btc exchange dapp. Customers inspect the source of dapp and
don't find something worried. Code is clear and safe. They send funds (lisk, btc) to dapp.

Can dapps owner change the dapp code and steal the funds?
What will happen with the funds If the dapp stops working?
Are there some way to prevent dapp from change by owner?
Can I create a trustful dapp secured by mainchain?

By tomorrow I have updated the whitepaper. Smiley



"Dapp owners": Is the person who developed the decentralized application and I presume he also has at least 1 master node running. (WRITE/READ)

"Dapp master node": One of maximum 101 sidechain forgers. (WRITE/READ)

"Dapp user": Regular user who is simply running the dapp. (READ-only)


Let's say in our scenario there are 101 sidechain master nodes, this is the best case and equals Lisk itself. There are now different scenarios.

Dapp owner changes the source code on e.g. GitHub: This can be seen as a regular update for the dapp, either soft or hard fork. Similar to an update for crypto-currencies. The network itself isn't affected as long as nodes don't update.

Dapp owner/any master node owner changes only the source code on his own master node: Here it matters where he made the changes. If the changes are in non-critical areas (I can't define the critical areas in general, e.g. a critical area is block generation, a non-critical is frontend) nothing happens and he can still participate as a sidechain forger. However, if a critical area is affected his generated blocks won't be accepted by the sidechain and he will land on a fork. The whole network won't fork here, only his own node.

Many master nodes update to latest hard fork version:

x nodes: There will be two networks active. One on the majority and one on the minority of the master nodes. Users will have to choose which fork they chose.

nearly all nodes: A huge majority inherently decides which fork is the "main" path. Therefore this can be seen as a hard fork which may occur with regular updates. (e.g. at Bitcoin the increase of Block size)

Many individual dapp users change their dapp: Nothing happens to the network itself, because these users don't generate new sidechain blocks.



So, in conclusion this is exactly the same behaviour as in crypto-currencies like Bitcoin or Nxt. If a dapp owner wants to introduce new features he should do it with milestones, that means at a certain blockchain height the new feature will be activated. This way the master nodes have a certain timeframe to switch to the update (or may decide against it).

LiskHQ , the 101 top lisk wallet adresses that make a node will become delegates right ?

Can there be a way that the Lisk team will claim up all of those delegates , cause with the millions coins even split in 101 wallets they will have the top wallets or am i thinking wrong ?  

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February 19, 2016, 10:58:52 AM
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LiskHQ , the 101 wallet adresses that make a node will become delegates right ?

Can there be a way that the Lisk team will claim up all of those delegates , cause with the millions coins even split in 101 wallets they will have the top wallets or am i thinking wrong ?  

You are talking about the Lisk blockchain itself, right? 101 delegates, i.e. 101 Lisk addresses can become active delegates. There will be thousands of regular addresses though. Everyone can own LISK, not only the delegates.

The community will vote for these delegates with all their LISK themselves. That means everyone has the chance to become a delegate.

Theoretically everyone could create 101 delegates and end up with all of them being active. However, this is very unlikely. To make this scenario even more unlikely, we introduced the Forging Rewards. This way we can be pretty sure that there is stiff competition, that means everyone will want to be a delegate.

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February 19, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
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LiskHQ , the 101 wallet adresses that make a node will become delegates right ?

Can there be a way that the Lisk team will claim up all of those delegates , cause with the millions coins even split in 101 wallets they will have the top wallets or am i thinking wrong ? 

You are talking about the Lisk blockchain itself, right? 101 delegates, i.e. 101 Lisk addresses can become active delegates. There will be thousands of regular addresses though. Everyone can own LISK, not only the delegates.

The community will vote for these delegates with all their LISK themselves. That means everyone has the chance to become a delegate.

Theoretically everyone could create 101 delegates and end up with all of them being active. However, this is very unlikely. To make this scenario even more unlikely, we introduced the Forging Rewards. This way we can be pretty sure that there is stiff competition, that means everyone will want to be a delegate.

Oke so maybe i got Dpos wrong so all lisk owners can vote for delegates and how will this be processed ? do you might know a good post to read about it, cause i know a lot about coins , just never dealed with a Dpos coin yet to be honest.
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February 19, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
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Oke so maybe i got Dpos wrong so all lisk owners can vote for delegates and how will this be processed ? do you might know a good post to read about it, cause i know a lot about coins , just never dealed with a Dpos coin yet to be honest.

Take a look here.

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February 19, 2016, 11:42:27 AM
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Say, what is the Lisk coin design icon to go on http://coinmarketcap.com/?

Can you please put a link to the media image package in the original post?
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February 19, 2016, 12:19:18 PM
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Oke so maybe i got Dpos wrong so all lisk owners can vote for delegates and how will this be processed ? do you might know a good post to read about it, cause i know a lot about coins , just never dealed with a Dpos coin yet to be honest.

Take a look here.

Thx appreciate it ! Now i understand Dpos its actually not that hard just never been into a Dpos coin before.

All Dutch translations already taken care of ?
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February 19, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
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Oke so maybe i got Dpos wrong so all lisk owners can vote for delegates and how will this be processed ? do you might know a good post to read about it, cause i know a lot about coins , just never dealed with a Dpos coin yet to be honest.

Take a look here.

Thx appreciate it ! Now i understand Dpos its actually not that hard just never been into a Dpos coin before.

All Dutch translations already taken care of ?

You could take a look at this: https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/blob/development/po/nl_NL.po Smiley

Everything else should be work-in-progress. Will keep you posted.

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Oke so maybe i got Dpos wrong so all lisk owners can vote for delegates and how will this be processed ? do you might know a good post to read about it, cause i know a lot about coins , just never dealed with a Dpos coin yet to be honest.

Take a look here.

Thx appreciate it ! Now i understand Dpos its actually not that hard just never been into a Dpos coin before.

All Dutch translations already taken care of ?

You could take a look at this: https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/blob/development/po/nl_NL.po Smiley

Everything else should be work-in-progress. Will keep you posted.

Looks solid so far, just one think Forging should be smeden , but might be more suited with the english term forging, but forging isnt a dutch word. thats all
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February 19, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
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I can't wait until Monday!!!
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Say, what is the Lisk coin design icon to go on http://coinmarketcap.com/?

Can you please put a link to the media image package in the original post?

I couldn't find a signature in the OP so I'm using one I copied from someone else.

Similarly, I couldn't find a link to the Lisk coin design icon in the OP, but i found a whole page full of them in the Github.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/tree/development/images

Would this image be appropriate for use on coinmarketcap? It's roughly the same size as the other design icons used for other coins on it.

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February 19, 2016, 01:57:12 PM
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I can't wait until Monday!!!
is the day the ico ends or when the project will show where it's headed that we are waiting for, and it's still one month far.

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February 19, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
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Say, what is the Lisk coin design icon to go on http://coinmarketcap.com/?

Can you please put a link to the media image package in the original post?

I couldn't find a signature in the OP so I'm using one I copied from someone else.

Similarly, I couldn't find a link to the Lisk coin design icon in the OP, but i found a whole page fullof them in the Github.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/tree/development/images

Would this image be appropriate for use on coinmarketcap? It's roughly the same size as the other design icons used for other coins on it.




The Signature is in the OP. For CoinMarketCap we specifically made a small icon. Here it is.




Edit: Seems like it is the same you linked. Your linked image didn't load for me before. Smiley





I can't wait until Monday!!!
is the day the ico ends or when the project will show where it's headed that we are waiting for, and it's still one month far.


I think he means the Monday when the ICO starts. Smiley

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Say, what is the Lisk coin design icon to go on http://coinmarketcap.com/?

Can you please put a link to the media image package in the original post?

I couldn't find a signature in the OP so I'm using one I copied from someone else.

Similarly, I couldn't find a link to the Lisk coin design icon in the OP, but i found a whole page fullof them in the Github.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/tree/development/images

Would this image be appropriate for use on coinmarketcap? It's roughly the same size as the other design icons used for other coins on it.




The Signature is in the OP. For CoinMarketCap we specifically made a small icon. Here it is.




Edit: Seems like it is the same you linked. Your linked image didn't load for me before. Smiley



The first image URL I used was from Github and it didn't load on bitcointalk. I had to download it, then upload it to an image upload service to get a URL that worked. Bitcointalk doesn't like Github image links, which is strange as the whole forum's about crypto software.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/blob/development/images/favicon-16x16.png
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February 19, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
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Say, what is the Lisk coin design icon to go on http://coinmarketcap.com/?

Can you please put a link to the media image package in the original post?

I couldn't find a signature in the OP so I'm using one I copied from someone else.

Similarly, I couldn't find a link to the Lisk coin design icon in the OP, but i found a whole page fullof them in the Github.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/tree/development/images

Would this image be appropriate for use on coinmarketcap? It's roughly the same size as the other design icons used for other coins on it.




The Signature is in the OP. For CoinMarketCap we specifically made a small icon. Here it is.




Edit: Seems like it is the same you linked. Your linked image didn't load for me before. Smiley



The first image URL I used was from Github and it didn't load on bitcointalk. I had to download it, then upload it to an image upload service to get a URL that worked. Bitcointalk doesn't like Github image links, which is strange as the whole forum's about crypto software.

https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-ui/blob/development/images/favicon-16x16.png


You can always use the one I linked. It's the correct one and I will never delete it from my server. Wink

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Cool, I in Chinese...




Now I am curious if we get an Arabic translation.  Cool

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Cool, I in Chinese...




Now I am curious if we get an Arabic translation.  Cool



i can provide Arabic translation Cheesy
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