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February 21, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
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Sounds nice ! I will take part tomorrow!

I hope Lisk will have a brighter future as Crypti

We will take care of that! In fact it already is more vivid than ever before. Wink

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February 21, 2016, 05:10:52 PM
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Signature updated, following on twitter and via newsletter!
Goodluck with the ICO start tomorrow
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February 21, 2016, 06:12:03 PM
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Lisk ICO Terms - Part III

This represents the final blog post in which our ICO terms are further explained. Later today we will publish a combined blog post with all details of the three parts.

  • Special reward for day 1 participants
  • All Money is held in Escrow
  • Where can I participate?


The website pages "ICO" and "Team" were also updated to reflect the latest changes. On the frontpage you will be able to see the number of BTC/XCR exchanged, and the number of participants.


Get all the necessary information in the blog post!

Great job on escrow - that is indeed the tricky part, and you have handled it very well.


read about escrow. i am in. only with a small amount.

i read something about a fixed exchange price for Crypti. but i could not find it anymore. can anybody please confirm this an tell me the rate.
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February 21, 2016, 06:21:30 PM
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Lisk ICO Terms - Part III

This represents the final blog post in which our ICO terms are further explained. Later today we will publish a combined blog post with all details of the three parts.

  • Special reward for day 1 participants
  • All Money is held in Escrow
  • Where can I participate?


The website pages "ICO" and "Team" were also updated to reflect the latest changes. On the frontpage you will be able to see the number of BTC/XCR exchanged, and the number of participants.


Get all the necessary information in the blog post!

Great job on escrow - that is indeed the tricky part, and you have handled it very well.


read about escrow. i am in. only with a small amount.

i read something about a fixed exchange price for Crypti. but i could not find it anymore. can anybody please confirm this an tell me the rate.

1 XCR will count as 1300 satoshis. No bonuses or reward for XCR participants.

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February 21, 2016, 06:26:33 PM
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Lisk ICO Terms - Part III

This represents the final blog post in which our ICO terms are further explained. Later today we will publish a combined blog post with all details of the three parts.

  • Special reward for day 1 participants
  • All Money is held in Escrow
  • Where can I participate?


The website pages "ICO" and "Team" were also updated to reflect the latest changes. On the frontpage you will be able to see the number of BTC/XCR exchanged, and the number of participants.


Get all the necessary information in the blog post!

Great job on escrow - that is indeed the tricky part, and you have handled it very well.


read about escrow. i am in. only with a small amount.

i read something about a fixed exchange price for Crypti. but i could not find it anymore. can anybody please confirm this an tell me the rate.

1 XCR will count as 1300 satoshis. No bonuses or reward for XCR participants.


Are these charts linked to by MalReynolds2 correct?

Is the selling price of Lisk during the ico still a secret?

No. 

The selling price of Lisk is determined by the total number of donors (both BTC and XCR) that show up, not by the Lisk management.

The selling price of Lisk will go up daily (become more valuable) as more and more donors show up during the ICO.

Take a look at these charts.

How many Lisk you will get for every Crypti you donate (Ownership dilution / concentration):
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit#gid=763738405
 
What Satoshi price you will pay for one Lisk with the Bitcoin you donate (Logical Lisk starting price at exchanges):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit#gid=763738405

Max, my latest versions of these charts incorporate the 15/10/5 % reward structure.  This is the final form I intend to update daily during the ICO, but I am certainly willing to make any changes that you direct.

Do you want to put links to these in the OP and ICO documentation?


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February 21, 2016, 06:30:05 PM
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1 XCR will count as 1300 satoshis. No bonuses or reward for XCR participants.

xcr @polo = 0.00001145

if i buy xcd now i will have a bonus too. about 15%.

but how will buy all the xcd you collected during the ico?
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February 21, 2016, 06:33:20 PM
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1 XCR will count as 1300 satoshis. No bonuses or reward for XCR participants.

xcr @polo = 0.00001145

if i buy xcd now i will have a bonus too. about 15%

If you buy XCR now you will get less LISK later. With BTC you will have a 15% bonus + 1st day reward.


But you are free to do what you think is the best. Smiley

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February 21, 2016, 06:37:21 PM
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1 XCR will count as 1300 satoshis. No bonuses or reward for XCR participants.

xcr @polo = 0.00001145

if i buy xcd now i will have a bonus too. about 15%

Yes, the XCR price is tracking the equivalent BTC price with bonus pretty closely now, with some discount to compensate for the extra steps and costs to set up an exchange account, a Crypti Wallet, and pay the exchange fees instead of donating BTC directly for Lisk. There have been some occasional dips in XCR price which are an opportunity for a larger discount on Lisk via XCR.

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February 21, 2016, 06:58:04 PM
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Are these charts linked to by MalReynolds2 correct?

Is the selling price of Lisk during the ico still a secret?

No. 

The selling price of Lisk is determined by the total number of donors (both BTC and XCR) that show up, not by the Lisk management.

The selling price of Lisk will go up daily (become more valuable) as more and more donors show up during the ICO.

Take a look at these charts.

How many Lisk you will get for every Crypti you donate (Ownership dilution / concentration):
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit#gid=763738405
 
What Satoshi price you will pay for one Lisk with the Bitcoin you donate (Logical Lisk starting price at exchanges):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit#gid=763738405

Max, my latest versions of these charts incorporate the 15/10/5 % reward structure.  This is the final form I intend to update daily during the ICO, but I am certainly willing to make any changes that you direct.

Do you want to put links to these in the OP and ICO documentation?


I think they are correct, but they have not been independently verified or approved by the Lisk management.   If you check the formulas and find an error, please let me know.
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February 21, 2016, 07:02:10 PM
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Hi, just a question, what will you do about the xcr collected?
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February 21, 2016, 07:03:27 PM
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Changed my sig, goodluck!
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February 21, 2016, 07:04:50 PM
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How many Lisk you will get for every Crypti you donate (Ownership dilution / concentration):
  
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit#gid=763738405
  
What Satoshi price you will pay for one Lisk with the Bitcoin you donate (Logical Lisk starting price at exchanges):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit#gid=763738405

Max, my latest versions of these charts incorporate the 15/10/5 % reward structure.  This is the final form I intend to update daily during the ICO, but I am certainly willing to make any changes that you direct.

Do you want to put links to these in the OP and ICO documentation?


I added your charts to the OP and the ICO blog post, thanks! It would be awesome if you can update them daily.


Hi, just a question, what will you do about the xcr collected?

If there is still a market after our ICO we will try to sell them.

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February 21, 2016, 07:14:28 PM
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Hi, just a question, what will you do about the xcr collected?

If there is still a market after our ICO we will try to sell them.
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I ask because accepting xcr if you have 2/3M ofalmost dead of those, you can exchange them with more profitable lisk.
Anyway the project in really interesting and I wish you good luck!
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February 21, 2016, 07:18:21 PM
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Anyone have a prediction how much will LISK cost
right after launch?

My prediction 3x or 4x of initial ICO price  Cheesy
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February 21, 2016, 07:34:43 PM
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Anyone have a prediction how much will LISK cost
right after launch?

My prediction 3x or 4x of initial ICO price  Cheesy


If history is to be trusted, I would imagine a super fast dump upon release of mainnet.  People always try to make a quick buck on ICOs

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February 21, 2016, 07:48:13 PM
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Cant wait for the  ICO to kick off, will be sometime till coin launches but looking forward to it.

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February 21, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
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I added your charts to the OP and the ICO blog post, thanks! It would be awesome if you can update them daily.


Roger, I will update them daily.  

Note I have now made three charts instead of the original two.  Here are the links, you will want to update the OP with these links.  Note that the link you currently have labeled as "Bitcoin" in the OP is actually the "Satoshi" chart.

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

The Satoshi Price For One Lisk

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing
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February 21, 2016, 08:02:42 PM
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Just to hear from Horse's mouth... XCR REFUND is still a valid/active idea? If so, I will participate early.
Thx,

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Hey LiskHQ,
Many of my Israeli friend would like to get in on this as we all did in crypti, would an Hebrew translation be granted a bounty?

Also, just changed my sig

Hello,

Yes. Please wait until tomorrow, as I will add quite a lot of ICO information to the OP this night. Then simply post it into the appropriate section and send the link to me. I will reserve the bounty for you now.

Thank you very much.


Website ICO countdown

We know that it's not working properly. If we find the time, we will fix the countdown within the next few hours. For the time being, please refer to this countdown.





Lisk ICO Terms

I just published a blog post with all available ICO information at one place. The blog post will be updated if necessary. Please distribute this link, instead of the three different parts.

https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-25ca3ecd5a4d
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February 21, 2016, 08:09:06 PM
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Quick question before you all lose it and spend every piece of your crypto here....

was there a talk about reverse vesting or a cliff mechanism for the ICO funds?  whats to keep these guys from collecting the funds and move on?

I suggested this back on Crypti's ICO and it was accepted, cant see a reason why not do the same here.

your thoughts LiskHQ?
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February 21, 2016, 08:11:13 PM
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There's a detail that some of my friends are wondering about, so they are wondering if the dev team is going to invest their own XCR owned by their previous project with crypti, (IF you have some), for have a "double gain" we can say, because you're spending your own XCR to buy LISK, and at the end you will own both XCR and LISK, or are you going to make that but burning your XCR used to buy lisk eventually? Of course you can say that you're not going to do something like that, but my friends will keep the doubt.
Another thing you of course are asking to buy lisk with btc rather than using XCR, but what's the purpose for you to be paid in XCR? I mean if you accept it, soon XCR should go to be worth more than now, do you have some plan to make XCR more valuable in the future?

thanks

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