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March 23, 2016, 11:26:02 AM
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If someone recommends X provider here and half of the delegates end up using that provider that would make Lisk much more vulnerable than if everyone found their own solution.

More than this: All nodes might be end up in the same country and that's not in our interest, I guess. So everyone should find a professional hoster in his/hers country and run it there. Or just take a look on the Lisk network when it's up and pick a country where a node is needed.
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March 23, 2016, 11:27:23 AM
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I am going to maintain a node as well hope for your support guys . I opend a Thread where you can discuss how i should maintain and handle it , every suggestion is helpfull.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1409278.msg14290437#msg14290437

Some information about me i was a Crypti investor and now big Lisk supporter from Day One. I have 3 years of experience with Crypto and live in Germany.

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March 23, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
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I totally agree.  I am certainly not saying everybody should use Vultr just because I do.  Digital Ocean is another possibility.  People should speak up with other host suggestions.
You know how it is. You say Vultr a few times and anyone who just had the idea that he wants to run a delegate, will just go to Vultr.

Maybe we should make a list of possible providers 10-20 of them. (Of course in this case ppl just choose the first one one the list. )
The lsit could be kept up to date with additionla notes, like how many uses it for delegates, what special setup requirements they have, etc.


The best situation is for Lisk to be running on 101 different Raspberry Pi 2s owned by 101 individual people connected by their home ISP.
The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency.  This is different from bandwidth.  
Agreed, but other then latency uptime is also more of an issue with with home connection/computer.
For example I have a very good internet connection and a spare Liva mini PC that is more than up to the task. However my router sometimes decides to disconnect from the internet for no reason, and stay that way until restarted.
 Not ideal for delegate. (But I'm thinking about setting up as a second delegate just to test it how uptime affected long term. If there is no other issue I may just replace that stupid router. )
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March 23, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
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The problem is that many home ISPs have slow latency.  This is different from bandwidth.  
IMHO, Oliver needs to publish ASAP some latency standards that an Active Delegate must meet before we get a lot of disappointed people who want to run a Lisk node from their home, but can't.
Are there some way to ckeck this latency?

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&site=&source=hp&q=ISP+latency+test&oq=ISP+latency+test

We need to establish a standard test protocol for Lisk.
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March 23, 2016, 11:36:12 AM
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March 23, 2016, 11:37:12 AM
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Is raspberry the best to run a delegate?
Im sorry if a ask silly things but my english is a bit poor.

Im spanish btw
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March 23, 2016, 11:47:50 AM
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If everyone sets up a delegate its going to be hard for people to ever become active delegates. Why not create a pool. I will vote for someone if they have a pool set up where the LISK forged is payed out to all that voted for them to get in the top 101.

Pools need to be sorted out.

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March 23, 2016, 11:48:31 AM
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So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:

PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot

Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?

I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.


I will probably do the same. I also ordered a Raspberry Pi 3, not sure yet how my network stability and latency works out.

Is there any difference between Vultr.com and Digitalocean.com ?

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March 23, 2016, 11:48:41 AM
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Is raspberry the best to run a delegate?
Im sorry if a ask silly things but my english is a bit poor.

Im spanish btw

Let's say it like this: It's possible to run Lisk on a rasp2, but there is more you need to note: speed (download / upload) and latency. and the most important point: your delegate has to be available 24/7/365, so your goal should be to provide as much uptime as possible.
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March 23, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
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To clear things up:

Bandwidth: Capacity Amount of data exchanged with the internet
Network Speed: Downloaded data per set amount of time (e.g. 100MB/s)
Latency: Amount of time for data to ping back and forth from sender to receiver
- Latency depends on Location and Network Speed

Vultr vs DigitalOcean

Vultr accepts Bitcoin
Vultr has higher RAM for lower price

What I use:

Windows Azure
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March 23, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
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Is raspberry the best to run a delegate?
Im sorry if a ask silly things but my english is a bit poor.

Im spanish btw

Let's say it like this: It's possible to run Lisk on a rasp2, but there is more you need to note: speed (download / upload) and latency. and the most important point: your delegate has to be available 24/7/365, so your goal should be to provide as much uptime as possible.

Unless your have redundancy solutions in your home or office networks internet connection (and the speeds are good), then its best to use vultr and the like, to maintain your uptime.

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March 23, 2016, 12:22:54 PM
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Is raspberry the best to run a delegate?
Im sorry if a ask silly things but my english is a bit poor.  Im spanish btw
Let's say it like this: It's possible to run Lisk on a rasp2, but there is more you need to note: speed (download / upload) and latency. and the most important point: your delegate has to be available 24/7/365, so your goal should be to provide as much uptime as possible.
Unless your have redundancy solutions in your home or office networks internet connection (and the speeds are good), then its best to use vultr and the like, to maintain your uptime.

Your English is OK and there are no silly questions.

An online cloud VPS  will deliver the best uptime.  Use Ubuntu 14.04.  Here are some to consider:

http://cloud-computing.softwareinsider.com/

http://www.hostingadvice.com/reviews/cheap/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2455706,00.asp

https://webhostinggeeks.com/bestvpshosting.html
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March 23, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
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What do you guys think about if I would run two nodes, one at vultr/digitalocean, the other one on my raspberry 3 at home?
Do you think that is a good idea, because of the redundancy of two completely different setups, or do you think it would be "fraud" because one person runs two delegates (of course I'm very trustworthy  Tongue ) ?

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March 23, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
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Is there a guide for how to set up a node on digital ocean?
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March 23, 2016, 12:37:39 PM
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All this sounds very complicate to me.
Cloud,  ubuntu... OMG
I want to run a delegate but I might not be able to do it.
I m willing to buy a raspberry and set up everything but I need more info!
Im completly noob with compurters
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March 23, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
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All this sounds very complicate to me.
Cloud,  ubuntu... OMG
I want to run a delegate but I might not be able to do it.
I m willing to buy a raspberry and set up everything but I need more info!
Im completly noob with compurters

Buying a raspberry pi is a whole lot more complicated than hosting it on the cloud so I would not recommend that..
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March 23, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
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All this sounds very complicate to me.
Cloud,  ubuntu... OMG
I want to run a delegate but I might not be able to do it.
I m willing to buy a raspberry and set up everything but I need more info!
Im completly noob with compurters

You should only considering a Node if you got something to offer, think about that.
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March 23, 2016, 12:45:08 PM
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So far I have following BCT forum people on my voting list:

PunkRock, Emerge, cannabanana, bigcabrito, nextgencrypto, cc001, bitseedmike, TheRedHawk, Splatters, Mrboot

Who else? Who wants my vote and will give me their vote?

I ran a Crypti node for $5/month at Vultr.com for many months and plan to start running a Lisk node next month, again at Vultr.



Your involvement already shown you would be a good delegate, so you have my vote.

Is there some kind of tutorial to setup a Lisknode at Vultr? I am interested in learning/ contributing by being a delegate if needed.
I wanna vote for him too. But how lol

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March 23, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
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Im completly noob with compurters

I'm not sure if a "completly noob with computers" should run a delegate node. Sorry, nothing personal Wink

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March 23, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
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Im completly noob with compurters

I'm not sure if a "completly noob with computers" should run a delegate node. Sorry, nothing personal Wink

Well... everyone can learn. Or not?
Im sure That cant be so difficult, but u guy could try to teach me and not to put me off. Nothing personal
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