[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[Mr.Pro]

Development?

The devs, dont have the funds. So, shut up if you cant contribute to the development of the coin. So, sit down and wait patiently rather than being an annoying child who cant get their candy.

[orendel]

It's like this thread is a trollbox x3. I am aware that im contributing to that right now but can u ppl please stop posting all this nonsense and bullshit?

This thread is full of fud

[aDAPPter]

any updates from devs? , too much fud here...

It's like this thread is a trollbox x3. I am aware that im contributing to that right now but can u ppl please stop posting all this nonsense and bullshit?

Interesting how only Waves signature supporters keep coming back to complain about the quality of this thread.

They have to post their Waves signatures like 50 times to be considered for the bounty

That's why they keep coming back to parade their Waves diarrhea here.

[redcow]

any updates from devs? , too much fud here...

It's like this thread is a trollbox x3. I am aware that im contributing to that right now but can u ppl please stop posting all this nonsense and bullshit?

Interesting how only Waves signature supporters keep coming back to complain about the quality of this thread.

They have to post their Waves signatures like 50 times to be considered for the bounty

That's why they keep coming back to parade their Waves diarrhea here.

This is the problem with signatures campaign..

[aDAPPter]

any updates from devs? , too much fud here...

Hats off (then backwards) for this meme.  

[sluppy]

I suspect this post will be drowned between the billions of pointless posts about who has the biggest virtual genitals, but I thought, I'd post it here anyways.

I am writing on a concept for a Browsergame like game (similar to Ogame), which utilizes Lisks DPoS System and the blockchain as either ingame mechanics and as a way to make the game independend from servers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ML_nI88q3c9N9oVJjyaLeBM4RoDA6LDtgxPskmTFgB8/edit?usp=sharing

You are welcome to contribute to the project.

Here is the Lisk-forum thread for it:
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=483

Amazing work!  Lisk will have many popular dapps!  Keep it up!

And the clowns quote every post except the ones that are actually important to lisk nice work!.

[BitLoans]

It's not as complicated as it looks but it does take some background to understand.

Max and Olivier are not just launching a new coin.  They are (1) absorbing membership from the already existing Crypti XCR coin (the "father" of Lisk) AND AT THE SAME TIME (2) they are going for a second round of funding from new BTC/ETH investors to further develop its technology. 

The number of transferring original XCR investors modify the end result seen by the new BTC/ETH investors.  The donations of the new  BTC/ETH investors modify the end result seen by the original XCR investors.  Nobody will know the final results until the ICO is over.  The "complicated" charts show all possible future combinations of BTC/ETH and XCR investments in Lisk between Feb 22 and March 21.  Only one of these combinations will be "real" at the end of the ICO.   That's the two  numbers on the charts Max and Olivier will go with - one specific concentration / dilution factor for the XCR donators, and one specific satoshi price for the BTC/ETH donators.

These charts show how these two groups of original XCR investors and new BTC/ETH investors will be merged together into one group of Lisk holders IN A FAIR MANNER.  And the proposed method for combining these two groups IS fair.   Kudos to Max and Olivier for taking on this task and proposing a path forward to make it succeed.

[deadpoolx]

I suspect this post will be drowned between the billions of pointless posts about who has the biggest virtual genitals, but I thought, I'd post it here anyways.

I am writing on a concept for a Browsergame like game (similar to Ogame), which utilizes Lisks DPoS System and the blockchain as either ingame mechanics and as a way to make the game independend from servers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ML_nI88q3c9N9oVJjyaLeBM4RoDA6LDtgxPskmTFgB8/edit?usp=sharing

You are welcome to contribute to the project.

Here is the Lisk-forum thread for it:
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=483

Amazing work!  Lisk will have many popular dapps!  Keep it up!

And the clowns quote every post except the ones that are actually important to lisk nice work!.

I and fuze0000 quoted and supported. The problem is to find in the mess

[cryptonoob312]

What was the ICO Satoshi price for Lisk (without bonus) flat rate?

According to my math, the exact ICO satoshi price for one lisk is

BTC0.00017801 Satoshi

HERE'S A BLAST FROM THE PAST _ AN OLD POST OF MINE AT THE END OF ICO

I have just released the last version of my spreadsheets, links below.  Thank you for viewing them over the past few weeks.  I will only modify these when Max releases the final 15%/10%/5% reward numbers.   My numbers on the bonus rewards are close approximations.

The Final Satoshi And USD Price For One Lisk

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q2MJ25_bK5Yi60FYohYCUEkujUtL5c0P1dOdlDMPMBI/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Bitcoin (BTC)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOEdaRnBmSAO5miW7xYheeYUgo5wL9l9BONw6x21nQg/edit?usp=sharing

How Many Lisk You Will Receive For One Crypti (XCR)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GwWKK7bpjYTxtQRIq_l2xiKI9rEOpTU1oTt0q3C6Mc8/edit?usp=sharing

Lisk ICO Daily Donations

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j1sOFyPa3ZPr6QuG7pzuJtw9DHy4BNuoWw5Iu9N9MiQ/edit?usp=sharing


END OF ICO RESULTS:

Lisk price in satoshi : 18265
Lisk Price In USD:   0.07516
Donated BTC:  14,079.18   
Lisk Cash Tech Dev Fund ($M USD): 5.793
Lisk Market Cap ($M USD): 7.516

Lisk WILL ENTER COINMARKETCAP.COM AT #15, JUST BELOW NXT.

Bump

[cryptonoob312]

ANOTHER BLAST FROM THE PAST:

Somebody can explain me, why LISK better than eth?

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode  
Let me know when it's done...or even started.  Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler  existed, Solidity is still an unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it?

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware.  JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.

Single hash generated  vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times.  Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an ever-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin.

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't.  Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH.

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ).  Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts".  There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains?  Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it.  How can you know that Eth PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does if ETH PoS finally shows up?  What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas" is so hard to understand?  Free is better.  Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.

Difference between Lisk Forging and Ethereum Mining

With Lisk, generating a new block for the blockchain is called "forging" (in the "blacksmith" instead of the "counterfeiter" sense of that term), not mining.  Mining is a Bitcoin / Etherium term that refers to competitive generation of thousands of millions of billions of useless hashes looking for a string of leading zeros in the hash that is a "lucky ticket" declaring a particular miner to be the winner of a reward.  Forging is a cooperative  generation of one and only one necessary hash to secure the Lisk blockchain, for which you are paid a set fee when it's your turn to do it.  During the first year a Lisk forger makes 5 Lisk per block forged, which happens like clockwork about once every 17 minutes, for a total of 150K Lisk in the first year.

In a pure PoS system, the richest coin holders that set up a forging node get most of the rewards from running those nodes.  With DPoS, anybody can set up a forging node no matter how much or how little of the coin they hold, as long as they pay (for Lisk) a 100 coin start fee.   Under DPoS, a poor coin holder / node runner gets the same rewards as a rich coin holder / node runner.  Thus there is incentive for poor coin holders to run a good node to increase their coin holdings.  Since there's a lot more poor coin holders than rich ones, the pool of potential node runners is much bigger.  This is a Good Thing.

Lisk generating only one hash per blocktime is one of its huge advantages over Bitcoin and Ethereum and their huge waste of resources.  

Lisk is literally trillions of times more efficient in CPU cycles per block generated compared to Bitcoin or Ethereum.  This is why Lisk can use really cheap computers, while Bitcoin and Ethereum are trapped forever to use a hugely expensive, wasteful and unneeded overhead infrastructure - all those warehouses full of mining rigs, whether ASIC or GPU based.

Now THAT'S stupid - and most Bitcoin and Ethereum people have no idea just how stupid it is.  

Lisk Coin Inflation Is Much Lower Than Ethereum Coin Inflation

Bump or post info to fight fud from now on.

[cryptonoob312]

If you want to learn how to become a lisk delegate and forge on testnet checkout https://academy.lisk.io/   Also join lisk.chat if you need help and votes.

[Axente]

After the first strugles of 0.2.0 I must say Lisk is running smooth on my server and will do even better after the update 0.2.1 which fixes most stuff.

[X1235]

About https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-dapps-docs/README
Will modules.api.sql be replaced with modules.api.postgres?

[bcmine]

If you want your coin being worth more as at the ICO

you have to built up a community. that means, that the community can controll the freak who is scamming all the thread since 400 pages with his accounts:

cannabanana
deadpoolx
MGM

Just report his stupid offtopic posts.

There are ALOT of different coins there, and a community holding the coin give the main value to it.

Now its looking alot of people will lose money after the whales starts dumping.

I dont see support here, a few people scamming the thread and a few people fighting them, with no result and a few seriously posters. THATS NOT A COMMUNITY. Thats just an annoying childish group .

[DeadBirdzz]

If you want your coin being worth more as at the ICO

you have to built up a community. that means, that the community can controll the freak who is scamming all the thread since 400 pages with his accounts:

cannabanana
deadpoolx
MGM

Just report his stupid offtopic posts.

There are ALOT of different coins there, and a community holding the coin give the main value to it.

Now its looking alot of people will lose money after the whales starts dumping.

I dont see support here, a few people scamming the thread and a few people fighting them, with no result and a few seriously posters. THATS NOT A COMMUNITY. Thats just an annoying childish group .

I think you mean SPAMMING

[dev0tion]

If you want your coin being worth more as at the ICO

you have to built up a community. that means, that the community can controll the freak who is scamming all the thread since 400 pages with his accounts:

cannabanana
deadpoolx
MGM

Just report his stupid offtopic posts.

There are ALOT of different coins there, and a community holding the coin give the main value to it.

Now its looking alot of people will lose money after the whales starts dumping.

I dont see support here, a few people scamming the thread and a few people fighting them, with no result and a few seriously posters. THATS NOT A COMMUNITY. Thats just an annoying childish group .

Welcome to Bitcointalk...
There are some decent discussions though, at the Lisk forum. Not here.

[whisper]

Whats up with ICO owners? Where they gone? Did they start some negotiations with some devs already? any news about this? We understand that they dont touch the money yet, but there is no problem to start looking for them!

pump!

[Axente]

If you want your coin being worth more as at the ICO

you have to built up a community. that means, that the community can controll the freak who is scamming all the thread since 400 pages with his accounts:

cannabanana
deadpoolx
MGM

Just report his stupid offtopic posts.

There are ALOT of different coins there, and a community holding the coin give the main value to it.

Now its looking alot of people will lose money after the whales starts dumping.

I dont see support here, a few people scamming the thread and a few people fighting them, with no result and a few seriously posters. THATS NOT A COMMUNITY. Thats just an annoying childish group .

This confirms you totally haven't looked at the forums or chat. The community is really building there especially the delegate chat is helpfull to get everyone that stable and safe servers.

[zaph3t]

What happened in here and this thread already has more than 700 pages? Cant go through all of them. 

[hmachado]

If you want your coin being worth more as at the ICO

you have to built up a community. that means, that the community can controll the freak who is scamming all the thread since 400 pages with his accounts:

cannabanana
deadpoolx
MGM

Just report his stupid offtopic posts.

There are ALOT of different coins there, and a community holding the coin give the main value to it.

Now its looking alot of people will lose money after the whales starts dumping.

I dont see support here, a few people scamming the thread and a few people fighting them, with no result and a few seriously posters. THATS NOT A COMMUNITY. Thats just an annoying childish group .

It's hard to be supportive when everything is buried under a pile of memes.
People are using the topic to have ego contests and it makes it unreadable.
I already have some ppl on ignore so it gets a little easier to read, but any new user will open this topic and run away.

We are currently running a new version of TestNet, some issues popped up and were solved, others will appear for sure in the upcoming days.
It was a good thing to have a little more testing time, Lisk is gaining some muscle for the Launch