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[selflover]

Is it brave and valiant to be stealing from 90% of his voters and giving it to the 10% that vote accordingly to his wishes?

Yes, it is brave and valiant. So he struggles with vote swap mafia. GDT&ARK vote swap monopoly bored everyone. 

[hmachado]

Is it brave and valiant to be stealing from 90% of his voters and giving it to the 10% that vote accordingly to his wishes?

Yes, it is brave and valiant. So he struggles with vote swap mafia. GDT&ARK vote swap monopoly bored everyone.  

Do you know who he is asking to be unvoted?

At this point the Lisk Network is very stable but it wasnt allways like that.
When MainNet launched if it wasnt for the Scripts that the people you called mafia have done, the network would have colapsed.

There are a lot of people he asked to unvote, im one of them. I made LiskAK and and its still beeing used. That i know off is the only command Line for Lisk that exists and it also Monitors and Manages most of the Delegate Nodes.

Mrv - Another of your "mafia" targets. He also made Monitoring Scripts but he did so many other things for Lisk that i cant even number then. LiskTools is to this day the best site to look at Lisk Network (he did it).

4Miners/MQ - Continues to work with Lisk team to improve Lisk code.

Corsaro - Is part of the LIG team that is setting and funding meetups all over Italy.

This is just some examples but there are more. Those ones in particular are not part of ARK.
And what did Liberspirita for Lisk?

He set up a pool and a delegate for himself, somthing that took him maybe 30m to do.
He is a leech and is sucking on Lisk, trying to get more delegates up.

Can anyone serious really defend this guy? He is a cancer to Lisk and should remove himself from this community.

[vlom]

i like the DPOS-Mafia-Cartel-Drama. This System is just a bad joke and it is doomed.

[Poly#Crypto]

Is it brave and valiant to be stealing from 90% of his voters and giving it to the 10% that vote accordingly to his wishes?

Yes, it is brave and valiant. So he struggles with vote swap mafia. GDT&ARK vote swap monopoly bored everyone.  

This is an interesting attitude and says a lot...

Last year I told many members of the German community: "Voted for RobinHood because it's a good member with a great pool"
On March 28th 2017, as part of my Twitter campaign for the community delegates, I also advertised the site of Robinhood / Liberspirita.
And now this "great member" starts a campaign against the community delegates (including me) on exactly this page I promoted. Brave and valiant? NO!
This is a foul. And this is also a foul against all the great delegates who contributed to Lisk from day one.

What's next? Shall we now use all our potential (Twitter, Facebook, Forum, Chat, Bitcointalk et cetera) to fight against Liberspirita and RobinHood? That should not be the problem. But this is not the purpose of Lisk and that is not the essence of a good community. And I don't like such stupid confrontations because they harm all users. I am for cooperation. But what Liberspirita doing now is definitely not acceptable.

[selflover]

Is it brave and valiant to be stealing from 90% of his voters and giving it to the 10% that vote accordingly to his wishes?

Yes, it is brave and valiant. So he struggles with vote swap mafia. GDT&ARK vote swap monopoly bored everyone.  

Do you know who he is asking to be unvoted?

At this point the Lisk Network is very stable but it wasnt allways like that.
When MainNet launched if it wasnt for the Scripts that the people you called mafia have done, the network would have colapsed.

There are a lot of people he asked to unvote, im one of them. I made LiskAK and and its still beeing used. That i know off is the only command Line for Lisk that exists and it also Monitors and Manages most of the Delegate Nodes.

Mrv - Another of your "mafia" targets. He also made Monitoring Scripts but he did so many other things for Lisk that i cant even number then. LiskTools is to this day the best site to look at Lisk Network (he did it).

4Miners/MQ - Continues to work with Lisk team to improve Lisk code.

Corsaro - Is part of the LIG team that is setting and funding meetups all over Italy.

This is just some examples but there are more. Those ones in particular are not part of ARK.
And what did Liberspirita for Lisk?

He set up a pool and a delegate for himself, somthing that took him maybe 30m to do.
He is a leech and is sucking on Lisk, trying to get more delegates up.

Can anyone serious really defend this guy? He is a cancer to Lisk and should remove himself from this community.

These delegates are members of the Mafia clan. Useless sites and meetups with an audience of 20 people don't impress the community! You act as Lisk hosts. Forging is not your personal faucet. You have no right to expel anyone.

[PredatorX]

i like the DPOS-Mafia-Cartel-Drama. This System is just a bad joke and it is doomed.

I agree with you. This is the worst system. Change dpos to masternodes or pos, it is better for Lisk. Crappy vote swap delegates did just shit for a lot of money. Stratis, PIVX with a smaller budget for development show amazing results.

[Lisk-investor]

this is just great. delegate war.

robbinhood delegate is what i vote for same like liskelite.
some delegates on the robinhood that is giving you no rewards is not right. some are doing good things but most off the list not.

so minimalize the warning result on robinhood and you doing good. thats what i think.

delegate system is just great.

[metropolit]

If this intrigues will tighten the competition it will only be good for Lisk so I wouldn't worry about those. More and more people want to be delegates and will have to offer something special to attract votes.

[Lisk-investor]

If this intrigues will tighten the competition it will only be good for Lisk so I wouldn't worry about those. More and more people want to be delegates and will have to offer something special to attract votes.

thats right. delegates need to do more to get in the top 101. thats good for lisk. every month it will be harder and harder to get or stay in the top101. 
that is making the delegate system a good system. with only friends voting on friends you will loose your power one day. the more whales investing in lisk the more fun on the delegate system.

[Poly#Crypto]

Hey Liskers


Today's delegates of my small campaign:

xujian, iii.element.iii



Twitter Moments: https://twitter.com/i/moments/809360501713080320
Twitter PolyCrypto: https://twitter.com/Polycrypto


If you like it please RT.
This campaign I have started on December 15, 2016 to promote and to spread the delegates.

If you want to support me please vote for polycrypto.

Unfortunately, I have deleted my promotion for RobinHood. The owner Liberspirita plays a wrong game. He makes public front against very committed community members, even he has never done anything for Lisk.

He is definitely not a good community member.

[nyanhtet]

If this intrigues will tighten the competition it will only be good for Lisk so I wouldn't worry about those. More and more people want to be delegates and will have to offer something special to attract votes.

thats right. delegates need to do more to get in the top 101. thats good for lisk. every month it will be harder and harder to get or stay in the top101. 
that is making the delegate system a good system. with only friends voting on friends you will loose your power one day. the more whales investing in lisk the more fun on the delegate system.

Sure. Competition in DPOS system is nothing related with development. Lisk team not involved in this. It is decentralised. Everyone can compete. Actually it also good effect to Lisk. In last month, lowest rank (rank 101) delegate approval is around 7% .Currently approching to 10%. Delegates hold their reward and bought Lisk from market to compete for their positions. It can good effect for inflation and price. I don't search how master node system running, but personally I think DPOS is better than POW and POS and more decentralised. Just need to improve for better ways. 

[Equalizer1970]

How is Ark even close to Lisk's marketcap? The market baffles me. Lisk should be at least at $100M and Ark should be at the most $3M.

[starmman]

How is Ark even close to Lisk's marketcap? The market baffles me. Lisk should be at least at $100M and Ark should be at the most $3M.

I don't understand that either, and still didn't buy any Ark - The entire market seems crazy this week - virtually everything on polo is being pumped today - I'm sure things will come crashing down again.

[techbytes]

Liberspirita pays his voters when they remove votes for other well committed delegates.
He split the community, he acts like a little troublemaker.
That should be good for Lisk?

Liberspirita is brave and valiant knight. He fights against the mafia. ARK&GDT mafia is not a community. They are freeloaders. They monopolized forging.  They only harm the project. Support Liberspirita!!!!

Doesn't matter what group I belong too.  If he doesn't pay me for not unvoting the people on his blacklist, no reason to support his pool.  Especially people who have done great things for Lisk and he wants me to unvote because he says so?  Lol...


-tb-

[ashapasa]

Guys what the hoopla about this delegate business on lisk? Seems most of the discussion recently revolves around this topic  Why is it important? Are delegates like master nodes forging ? How many delegates are needed and minimum amount of lisk needed to be elected? What's the real benefit? Can someone please explain.

[corsaro]

Guys what the hoopla about this delegate business on lisk? Seems most of the discussion recently revolves around this topic   Why is it important? Are delegates like master nodes forging ? How many delegates are needed and minimum amount of lisk needed to be elected? What's the real benefit? Can someone please explain.

At the moment, the minimum amout of lisk needed (as vote weight) to enter in 101 is 10,460,000 LISK

The first 101 delegates forge the new blocks and earn a reward of 5 LISK per block

An active delegate earns about 433 LISK per day (as reward + fees) to forge new blocks.

Reward per block will be reduced by 1 LISK every year, and starting from 5th year, it will remain stable at 1 lisk per block

[s0nix]

           ------------------- Important warning for anyone supporting this pool ["robinhood"]:   -------------------


Liberspirita is running an open campaign showing unprecedented shameful behavior that shouldn't go unnoticed by the Lisk community.

He was a former GDT member and used the good will of the group to get his pool to a forging spot, while at the same time is running another delegate in his name for pure profit.
As soon as he got the forging spots he left GDT claiming he didnt want to be involved on the Politics of DPOS.

Only yesterday we (the whole Lisk community) noticed that Liberspirita was asking people to unvote some of the most important pillars in the Lisk world.
Shielding himself behind some agenda against the ARK project, he started pointing fingers at people that are not even related to ARK.
What was his goal with this? Probably he wants to get some more forging spots, 2 is not enough for him.
For someone whose only contribution to Lisk was to make a pool, something that takes 30m to set up, he sure feels entitled to boss people around on who to vote.

Fortunately, he is not very smart and did all this in such an open way that it cause outrage from everyone. The mass unvoting of his 2 delegates (liberspirita and robin hood) shows just that.

I think we should all accept the fact that Lisk supporters have different opinions about a number of things, it's the way a community works.
Lisk needs a strong community and can benefit from all groups, even if they don't think alike.
The Goal is the same: LisK to succeed.

Liberspirita though, is a disgrace to the community and everyone supporting him should think twice.

Beeing on Lisk since before MainNet was launched, this was the first time i felt something had to be said about this.
DPOS is a competitive system but i hope shamefull behavior like this is banned from Lisk.

quoted +1

I just notice this:


More then 90% of liberspirita pool voters are getting a HUGE pennalty , making this pool the one with lower payouts.
Then a few selected voters get all those extra Lisks that are stolen.

You dont need to take my word for it, its stated on his site: http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/stats

True words. +1

Guys please delete your votes for robinhood and liberspirita.

He wants to destroy the Lisk community.

For someone whose only contribution to Lisk was to make a pool, something that takes 30m to set up, he sure feels entitled to boss people around on who to vote.

[BTCwriter]

How is Ark even close to Lisk's marketcap? The market baffles me. Lisk should be at least at $100M and Ark should be at the most $3M.

This could happen if Lisk would have a couple big projects using it Blockchain APP and Ark got hacked.
Chance of this happen is 0%.

[Lisk-investor]

How is Ark even close to Lisk's marketcap? The market baffles me. Lisk should be at least at $100M and Ark should be at the most $3M.

This could happen if Lisk would have a couple big projects using it Blockchain APP and Ark got hacked.
Chance of this happen is 0%.

lookslike ark is delisted from coinmarketcap. dont see it anymore. 

[prix]

i like the DPOS-Mafia-Cartel-Drama. This System is just a bad joke and it is doomed.

I like too. But I don't think something will change with current model of DPOS.

Guys, if you want win - buy the LISK and vote for yourself & your clan and/or create a pools as Elite do.
I don't want investigate who is right in that battle. I want more LISK from pools. LISK will be huge.

How is Ark even close to Lisk's marketcap? The market baffles me. Lisk should be at least at $100M and Ark should be at the most $3M.

Don't worry. I would be very surprised if ARK will not dump with time. I have nothing against ARK, but it's growth is speculative only and unnatural.

what happens when ARK starts having a bigger market cap than Lisk?

Nothing. LISK have huge budget and team. It's a argument. Market cap is not.