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April 26, 2017, 07:52:55 PM
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1.nearly all of these guys talking about the problem of DPOS and group have never been a delegate and will never be a deletgate ..you guys never know what is the biggest problem to be a delegate. and you have no idea about what is the real problem before Elite comes out.

so let me tell you something you never know.

you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.

and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???

what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...

Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....


2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.


People who know how to read the blockchain can see your claim that 30 ARK members dumping Lisk is false.  Dumping didn't start until Elite came along and took over the network and started pushing out key supporters of Lisk. 


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April 26, 2017, 08:16:50 PM
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Lisk began waking up

I'm afraid it's only traders who is waking up  Smiley Now it's Lisk turn to be pumped a little bit.

I would say that Lisk wakes up when I saw the 1st dapp in my wallet. As far as I remember even Crypti had something to show.
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April 26, 2017, 08:25:39 PM
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Thank you all for voting for my pool!
At the moment, the reward is 80%, I'll be happy with the new voices, there's only a few left, and the pool will go to top 101. You can also read our proposal at the Liska https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1245 Forum.
Vote for my pool Olejegcord

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April 26, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
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1.nearly all of these guys talking about the problem of DPOS and group have never been a delegate and will never be a deletgate ..you guys never know what is the biggest problem to be a delegate. and you have no idea about what is the real problem before Elite comes out.

so let me tell you something you never know.

you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.

and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???

what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...

Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....


2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.


People who know how to read the blockchain can see your claim that 30 ARK members dumping Lisk is false.  Dumping didn't start until Elite came along and took over the network and started pushing out key supporters of Lisk.  


-tb-

The Lisk Elite Delegates have formed a nice PONZI SCHEME. Lets see how long it holds up.  Grin

I also challenge you to post the names of any Elite delegate members that have any technical contributions to the Lisk project.  Tongue

The highest technical achievement you have produced is most likely making a meme .gif     Cheesy
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April 26, 2017, 09:30:02 PM
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The Lisk Elite Delegates have formed a nice PONZI SCHEME. Lets see how long it holds up.  Grin

Never heard they're taking money & promising hundreds %% in return  Shocked are you trolling kidding?
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April 26, 2017, 09:36:57 PM
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I'm in Lisk since the ICO and I'm disappointed about the whole "delegates & voting" mechanism.
Don't expect me to vote for anyone, it's a completely corrupted system.
Well, I voted once for someone who did a lot for the Lisk community but he never stood a chance.

I'm also in Waves, where I can just run a node if I hold at least 10k of Waves or lease a node (without a vote).
Why not a simple solution like Waves implemented?

I like boths project though.
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April 26, 2017, 09:54:09 PM
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I'm also in Waves, where I can just run a node if I hold at least 10k of Waves or lease a node (without a vote).
Why not a simple solution like Waves implemented?



The less nodes the faster the network. Wonder what solution for the scalability found Ardor/NXT 2.0

We should be grateful to Lisk devs for the DPoS pool as well as Waves for the LPoS ones  Smiley look @ BitShares & Steemit - the "hodlers" get nothing Sad
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April 26, 2017, 09:54:58 PM
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just a reminder
On April 28th from 7:00 to 8:00PM CEST, members of the Lisk Foundation and employees of the lightcurve GmbH working on the Lisk platform will livestream a community Q&A. https://blog.lisk.io/community-q-a-youtube-livestream-meet-the-developers-c4630fbf7fb7

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April 26, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
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...what solution for the scalability found Ardor/NXT 2.0



I am starting to read about their "unique" solution a lot...is there any place to actually see it?
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April 27, 2017, 12:34:19 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm making the change for my delegate devasive to become a profit sharing node! I will now be sharing 25% of my forging rewards to all of my voters. Balances of my voters will begin to be distributed on or before May 15th and will be distributed twice weekly from then on.

You can view my delegate proposal here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=241&p=2424#p2424

Thanks for your support!
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April 27, 2017, 01:59:07 AM
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Finally looks like Lisk's price is taking off. Question is will it continue a slow rise or go for a massive pivx like pump?..
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April 27, 2017, 03:34:15 AM
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can someone explain why the rise in LISK?  do they have a SLACK channel?
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April 27, 2017, 04:00:42 AM
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Any developments with Poloniex adding Lisk to margin trading?
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April 27, 2017, 04:02:25 AM
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can someone explain why the rise in LISK?  do they have a SLACK channel?
we use lisk.chat, you could go there and register an account to experience it.
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April 27, 2017, 04:24:17 AM
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The Lisk Elite Delegates have formed a nice PONZI SCHEME. Lets see how long it holds up.  Grin

I also challenge you to post the names of any Elite delegate members that have any technical contributions to the Lisk project.  Tongue

The highest technical achievement you have produced is most likely making a meme .gif     Cheesy

Well said! Most of them but there are many others too who are contributing Lisk, i am also watching this system and how long it works. Most of the members in Elite group are one whose names i had never heard in Crypto..


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April 27, 2017, 05:24:16 AM
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lisk pool list updated...

- added samuray to active pools
- added thrice.pi_prometheus to standby pools

complete updated pool list at:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18502957#msg18502957
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April 27, 2017, 06:34:21 AM
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Financial Report — March 2017


With the successful establishment of the Lisk Foundation in Zug, we are publishing Financial Reports on a monthly basis. This month the Financial Report also covers the first quarter of 2017.

As of the 26th April 2017 at 12pm CEST, the Lisk Foundation controls the following fiat and cryptocurrency assets for on-going operations and long-term storage:

    1,072,401.79 CHF
    365,768.94 EUR
    299,949.77 USD
    9,992.30838103 BTC
    4,369,229.69895737 LSK
    25,411,425,528,181 bytes

Totalling: ~21,750,324 CHF (subject to volatile markets)

Additionally, the Lisk Foundation holds the following assets for bounties and advisers:

    3,868,044.77211678 LSK (Bounties)
    761,745.87898046 LSK (Advisers)

Currency conversions

The Lisk Foundation is handling multiple currencies such as CHF, EUR, USD and various cryptocurrencies.
The accounting and our financial reports are all done in CHF.

In March 2017 the Lisk Foundation exchanged 939.8 BTC for the following currencies:

    14. March — BTC>EUR: 250,000 EUR
    14. March — BTC>USD: 299,949.77 USD
    14. March — BTC>CHF: 532,376.60 CHF

Bounties

In March of 2017 the Lisk Foundation awarded outstanding community members with approximately 58,000 LSK as bounty rewards for their excellent contributions or collaborations to the Lisk Ecosystem.

Monthly Expenditures

In March 2017 the Lisk Foundation spent approximately 51,354.70 CHF for all operations. Below you can find an approximate breakdown of the expenses for March. Please note, payments to the lightcurve GmbH are being executed every quarter only.

    PR: 7,007 CHF
    Strategy, UI/UX design: 44,189.70 CHF
    Hardware: 158 CHF

Quarterly Expenditures

The Lisk Foundation is in a contractual agreement of quarterly invoices with the lightcurve GmbH. March concludes the first quarter of 2017 what allows us to give an overview of the costs. Please note, the pre-payment of 213,610 CHF conducted in January to the lightcurve GmbH will be paid back to the Lisk Foundation later this year.

    lightcurve GmbH: 340,719 CHF (out of this 16,026 CHF are service expenses for business trips, conference tickets, servers and software)

Additionally, you can find a break down of the single months below:

    January: 27,562.4 CHF (without the pre-payment to lightcurve)
    February: 19,832.20 CHF
    March: 51,354.70 CHF

Totalling Q1: 439,468.30 CHF

The financial reports are published with a delay to give more accurate data.

Not included are: Taxes, exchange fees, smaller expenses throughout the year, dust and random payments to our cryptocurrency wallets. The given numbers are only an approximation.


Poloniex LSK closing price, 25th April: 0.00031911 BTC/LSK
Coinbase BTC closing price, 25th April: $1,263.26
LSK closing price, 25th April: $0.4031


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April 27, 2017, 07:17:02 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm making the change for my delegate devasive to become a profit sharing node! I will now be sharing 25% of my forging rewards to all of my voters. Balances of my voters will begin to be distributed on or before May 15th and will be distributed twice weekly from then on.

You can view my delegate proposal here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=241&p=2424#p2424

Thanks for your support!

LOL you said this like it's 80%, 25% is nothing. You want 75% for what? For having 20$ server cost a month you take >2500 $ for yourself?
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April 27, 2017, 07:28:25 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.
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I remember Lisk was 250k. I hope we will beat this price in 1-2 year.

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