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April 27, 2017, 07:28:25 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.
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April 27, 2017, 07:38:11 AM
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I remember Lisk was 250k. I hope we will beat this price in 1-2 year.

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April 27, 2017, 07:39:00 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.

1 with 90% also fine enough. We need to keep decentralization.  Smiley

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April 27, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.

Totally agree with you, now with the price rise of Lisk, earning 12000 lisk per month for doing nothing is a fucking joke.
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April 27, 2017, 08:13:56 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.

Totally agree with you, now with the price rise of Lisk, earning 12000 lisk per month for doing nothing is a fucking joke.

Sorry to say but this is rubish.
25 LSK are currently worth USD 14. For that you get maybe 1 cheap VPS.
But good delegates also have backup nodes, a management server, one or two testnet server, a server for a Blockchain snapshot and/or a node for a public wallet. And it is recommended not the cheapest provider but the most reliable. For a secure connection via https man needs one or more domains. This all definitely does not get for $ 14 a month.

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April 27, 2017, 08:15:01 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.

1 with 90% also fine enough. We need to keep decentralization.  Smiley

I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

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April 27, 2017, 08:21:03 AM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.
Would be a great way to get some corruption out of the system.

Totally agree with you, now with the price rise of Lisk, earning 12000 lisk per month for doing nothing is a fucking joke.

Sorry to say but this is rubish.
25 LSK are currently worth USD 14. For that you get maybe 1 cheap VPS.
But good delegates also have backup nodes, a management server, one or two testnet server, a server for a Blockchain snapshot and/or a node for a public wallet. And it is recommended not the cheapest provider but the most reliable. For a secure connection via https man needs one or more domains. This all definitely does not get for $ 14 a month.




How much in average $ per month do you spend for those you mentioned above?
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April 27, 2017, 08:27:58 AM
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Vote for 'Hoop' delegate!

Hoop now became a profit sharing node! 30% of my forging rewards will be distributed back to all of my voters.


Rules : Paid once per week once in forging position (really close now #106) , minimum payout is 0.5 LISK to guard my voters against too much LISK fees!

You can view my delegate proposal here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1232

Thanks for your support!

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April 27, 2017, 08:40:30 AM
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Delegate name: elitepool (nothing to do with the Elite group)

Payout 80% of block rewards but this will pay more then pools now pay out with 90-100% sharing, because it will stop counting new votes after it has enough the be kept in 101. A capped pool.

Payout every few days
Payout minimum payout: 5 lsk

https://explorer.lisk.io/address/12422651985009833293L

Please vote and get your share of the profit.

For more info and updates on voting status follow the lisk forum thread, I'll post updates there.
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1411&p=10440
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April 27, 2017, 08:48:39 AM
Last edit: April 27, 2017, 12:26:08 PM by corsaro
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lisk pool list updated...



- added techbytes and popcornbag to standby pools
- added idealisk to standby pools
- added samuray to active pools
- added thrice.pi_prometheus to standby pools


complete list here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18502957#msg18502957
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April 27, 2017, 08:50:19 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm making the change for my delegate devasive to become a profit sharing node! I will now be sharing 25% of my forging rewards to all of my voters. Balances of my voters will begin to be distributed on or before May 15th and will be distributed twice weekly from then on.

You can view my delegate proposal here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=241&p=2424#p2424

Thanks for your support!

LOL you said this like it's 80%, 25% is nothing. You want 75% for what? For having 20$ server cost a month you take >2500 $ for yourself?
iimpact,
why dont you run a 100% profit sharing delegate, if it only costs $20 ?  Wink
Can I run one too please, I got $40 to spare?

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April 27, 2017, 08:56:25 AM
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Like ETH is gas for ETH platform, is Lisk also fuel for SDK platform or it has other mission?

It should work exactly same way, but now sure how side chains will works

The side chains may not need lsk for functioning?
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April 27, 2017, 11:25:31 AM
Last edit: April 27, 2017, 11:38:33 AM by iimpact
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iimpact,
why dont you run a 100% profit sharing delegate, if it only costs $20 ?  Wink
Can I run one too please, I got $40 to spare?



Because it's even impossible to get into top 101 because of mafia Team Elite. You can have 100% sharing and still you cannot get into top 101, it's just a broken system.
Btwn. I'm a delegate, threw away 25 lisk and more for the VPS so I can do it but it makes no sense does it?!
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April 27, 2017, 12:12:38 PM
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I'm thinking about setting up 11 delegates that distribute ~95% to voters, the rest is for operating costs. Currently, 25 Lisk a month is more than enough to run a VPS.

And the result we've seen a few days ago.
Many of the new and unknown elite delegates were not in forging, a lot of Red Nodes in Explorer.
They have no backup nodes and no failover functions for their nodes.

Such delegates with only one cheap VPS are a danger to the stability of Lisk network.
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April 27, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
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I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

Does it make sense?
If you want to vote then you should choose candidates who have contributed well to the Lisk ecosystem and to the community and which still do this.

atreides
cc001
corsaro
dakk
goldeneye
gr33ndrag0n
hmachado
liskit
MrV
ntelo
Phoenix1969
polycrypto
redsn0w
sgdias
theredhawk
vrlc92
wannabe_rotebaron

...and some more.
Read the proposals https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=48

It does not matter in which group the people are. Main thing they do something for Lisk.
And of course you can also vote for pools.

Team members and officials should not have a delegate. They can pay themselves out of the fund or via lightcurve.

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April 27, 2017, 12:45:49 PM
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I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

Does it make sense?
If you want to vote then you should choose candidates who have contributed well to the Lisk ecosystem and to the community and which still do this.

atreides
cc001
corsaro
dakk
goldeneye
gr33ndrag0n
hmachado
liskit
MrV
ntelo
Phoenix1969
polycrypto
redsn0w
sgdias
theredhawk
vrlc92
wannabe_rotebaron

...and some more.
Read the proposals https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=48

It does not matter in which group the people are. Main thing they do something for Lisk.
And of course you can also vote for pools.

Team members and officials should not have a delegate. They can pay themselves out of the fund or via lightcurve.



Some of them are on my voted list... but i unvote if they do/enter corporations.... simple, for me decentralization means no groups and agreements between delegates.

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April 27, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
Last edit: April 27, 2017, 01:07:49 PM by redsn0w
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I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

Does it make sense?
If you want to vote then you should choose candidates who have contributed well to the Lisk ecosystem and to the community and which still do this.

atreides
cc001
corsaro
dakk
goldeneye
gr33ndrag0n
hmachado
liskit
MrV
ntelo
Phoenix1969
polycrypto
redsn0w
sgdias
theredhawk
vrlc92
wannabe_rotebaron

...and some more.
Read the proposals https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=48

It does not matter in which group the people are. Main thing they do something for Lisk.
And of course you can also vote for pools.

Team members and officials should not have a delegate. They can pay themselves out of the fund or via lightcurve.



Some of them are on my voted list... but i unvote if they do/enter corporations.... simple, for me decentralization means no groups and agreements between delegates.


A group but its definition is formed by a lot of members (so users) so it's still decentralised by design Smiley. Saying I don't vote for a delegate because he is member of a group (for  me personally) it's non sense.
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April 27, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
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lisk pool list updated...



- added techbytes and popcornbag to standby pools
- added idealisk to standby pools
- added samuray to active pools
- added thrice.pi_prometheus to standby pools


complete list here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18502957#msg18502957

Delegate techbytes (#118) is now sharing 50% forged Lisk to voters.  So vote for techbytes if you want to earn some Lisk.

https://lisk.cryptopools.com/


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April 27, 2017, 12:58:35 PM
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I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

Does it make sense?
If you want to vote then you should choose candidates who have contributed well to the Lisk ecosystem and to the community and which still do this.

atreides
cc001
corsaro
dakk
goldeneye
gr33ndrag0n
hmachado
liskit
MrV
ntelo
Phoenix1969
polycrypto
redsn0w
sgdias
theredhawk
vrlc92
wannabe_rotebaron

...and some more.
Read the proposals https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=48

It does not matter in which group the people are. Main thing they do something for Lisk.
And of course you can also vote for pools.

Team members and officials should not have a delegate. They can pay themselves out of the fund or via lightcurve.



Some of them are on my voted list... but i unvote if they do/enter corporations.... simple, for me decentralization means no groups and agreements between delegates.

This is not the point, rather a decentralized network.
And cooperation is the best thing can happen to a project.
If everyone just makes his own thing then there is no community and then there is no support.

If you have interest in the success of Lisk then you should vote for good delegates depending on groups.
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April 27, 2017, 01:00:51 PM
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I agree too, unvoted all the delegates that are part of a circle/corporation or something like that, aggregation of delegates is the contrary of the DpoS concept...

Vote only for delegates that are not part of a group ! And some pools too to have some lisk back.... but also on pools avoid to give votes to group of pools that belong all to the same person...

Does it make sense?
If you want to vote then you should choose candidates who have contributed well to the Lisk ecosystem and to the community and which still do this.

atreides
cc001
corsaro
dakk
goldeneye
gr33ndrag0n
hmachado
liskit
MrV
ntelo
Phoenix1969
polycrypto
redsn0w
sgdias
theredhawk
vrlc92
wannabe_rotebaron

...and some more.
Read the proposals https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=48

It does not matter in which group the people are. Main thing they do something for Lisk.
And of course you can also vote for pools.

Team members and officials should not have a delegate. They can pay themselves out of the fund or via lightcurve.



Some of them are on my voted list... but i unvote if they do/enter corporations.... simple, for me decentralization means no groups and agreements between delegates.

This is not the point, rather a decentralized network.
And cooperation is the best thing can happen to a project.
If everyone just makes his own thing then there is no community and then there is no support.

If you have interest in the success of Lisk then you should vote for good delegates depending on groups.

On another note, update your signature, ARK v1.2.0 is out...   Grin

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