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[andulolika]

Hi everyone, just letting you all know that we are basically on our own chain, I've been going thru a lot and learning life hence my time here has been shortened drastically so things have been very slow but by my fault this time.
I appologize and wish to remember that I will never never leave this untill I die.

[kurcelis]

Any good news?

[andulolika]

Any good news?

Life been hitting hard on me lately, I will start focusing on my work/studies and that means I will also be able to start focusing more on cryptocurrencies which means I feel shit is finally going to start getting done around, slowly but firmly, I learned a lot and without this knowledge I would of failed 1000 times without knowing why... I want to thank everyone that was involved and giving me a reason to keep doing whatever I was doing, I'm certain much more could of been done if I were realistic instead of dreaming but now I see a chance to change things in a good way and it's everything i ever dreamed of I'm extremely grateful for all the chances I were given, thank you all! I'm sick of making promises so just expect shit to start getting done.

[gordob]

Any good news?

Life been hitting hard on me lately, I will start focusing on my work/studies and that means I will also be able to start focusing more on cryptocurrencies which means I feel shit is finally going to start getting done around, slowly but firmly, I learned a lot and without this knowledge I would of failed 1000 times without knowing why... I want to thank everyone that was involved and giving me a reason to keep doing whatever I was doing, I'm certain much more could of been done if I were realistic instead of dreaming but now I see a chance to change things in a good way and it's everything i ever dreamed of I'm extremely grateful for all the chances I were given, thank you all! I'm sick of making promises so just expect shit to start getting done.

All good Andu -)

[zazarb]

No, not good,  already  month Andu offline and stopped communicate

[marilyn4325]

Any news on this project? I might have some more time now, so I could work on it again and try to implement a first version. Might need a bit longer, but should be possible for me to work on weekends on it and clone some existing coin and add some features (I would really like to have integrated gambling instead of traditional mining or PoS), maybe finished until August.

[marilyn4325]

Basic ideas of the coin:

1. fixed number of coins
2. proof-of-stake concept (PoS), without reward, except for the transfer fees

So the idea for the integrated gambling, really simple, easy to implement:

1. you place a bet, which is recorded on the blockchain
2. a few blocks later, the hash of the block is used
3. next block, the win or loss is transferred, which is decided by the noted hash of the previous block

Two ideas how you can win and lose coins:

1. the coins are created on win, and destroyed on loss
2. there are investors, and 1% house edge (all investors are the house)

The idea without investors could be a bit dangerous, because it is possible that someday no coins are left anymore, but this would make the coin really interesting, because the value compared to other coins on exchanges would be very interesting as well What do you think?

As previously suggested, I would clone the WAVES platform for the new coin, because it is easy to modify and very secure, because it is written in Scala (compiled to the Java-JVM), so things like buffer overflows etc. are impossible with this language.

Possible attack for the gambling algorithm: The gambler has also a lot of coins, so the probability is higher that with the PoS he creates the next block. But if the outcome doesn't win, he would just discard the block. I think this is no problem, because then just another one creates a new block, and the hash would be as random as the first one, but this time the creator doesn't care, if the gambler wins or loses, so the bet will succeed (either win or lose).

Drawback compared to online gambling sites like justdice: the bets are slower. With WAVES there is one minute per block. To avoid attacks by blockchain forks, there should be a few blocks after the bet block and the transfer block, maybe 3? This would mean every bet needs about 5 minutes. Would you still use it?

[gordob]

I like the idea... bet times would be an issue, people won't wait that time period in my opinion. What about going the AntShares route, the same theory as above could look at around 45 sec for 3 blocks?

"At present, block time of AntShares is manually limited to 15 seconds. In the future, when the latency between the billing nodes is low enough, most of the blocks are expected to be completed in 1 second. With about 100Mbit / s bandwidth and specialized hardware for cryptographic calculation, AntShares is able handle thousands of thousands of transactions per second."

[marilyn4325]

AntShares looks interesting. But might be difficult to read the source code, it is literally all Chinese to me

https://github.com/neo-project/neo/blob/master/neo/Core/Blockchain.cs

and it is written in C#, which is not well supported on Mac and Linux, unlike Java, which runs everywhere, even on Android phones. But maybe the WAVES block time can be reduced to 15 seconds or even lower, it is only a constant in the source code.

But I'm still not sure, if it is a good idea, if a win or loss creates new coins and destroys coins. Maybe using investors would be better for the coin?

[andulolika]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.
Edit: My idea before going MIA was to use the same address format as bitcoin, so people could use their XCP to get to their DCs, since a while I keept listening to people bitching about how big their blockchain got, plan now would be to get a clam clone with the bitcoin address format if possible AND we need a new compression method for the chain, I downloaded cracked games that went from 7 gb to over 20 after instalation so im wondering if that couldnt be done with our chain aswell.

[andulolika]

I need to know how many of you lost access to your XCP accounts since you will use the same private key of the corresponding BTC private key of the address holding the token. If you want a different address for the distribution than what you had on xcp you need to contact me privatelu.

[marilyn4325]

I found some old Bitcoins, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2637884.msg26850063 , will have some more time now to work on Darkclam. It is not dead yet, it just smells funny

[marilyn4325]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.

Cool, you are back, too. What do you think about integrating gambling into the blockchain itself, with the possibility to create and destroy coins by gambling?

[andulolika]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.

Cool, you are back, too. What do you think about integrating gambling into the blockchain itself, with the possibility to create and destroy coins by gambling?

You don't know how glad I'm to see you, I like the idea itself, and with the coin's being destroyed on loss it would be really interesting to see how the value increases. On the other hand I really love the idea to let community decide stuff thru voting, whatever is we agree on is what our goal become, there is plenty of stuff that can be done at long term, if you get onto slack I'll let you know the latest thing I had in mind .
Edit: We actually have a DC wallet done, a clam clone with same address format as bitcoin, however I kinda fucked up losing access to my 1anduis address, I think we just need another genesis block and perhaps a node, can have pc on all day tho.

[CoinMenX]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.
Edit: My idea before going MIA was to use the same address format as bitcoin, so people could use their XCP to get to their DCs, since a while I keept listening to people bitching about how big their blockchain got, plan now would be to get a clam clone with the bitcoin address format if possible AND we need a new compression method for the chain, I downloaded cracked games that went from 7 gb to over 20 after instalation so im wondering if that couldnt be done with our chain aswell.

bro project is coming back now?

[andulolika]

Yes, a clone of waves is running on testnet, dunno for how long but we are definetly settled .

[DocHouse.io]

MAKE DC GREAT AGAIN!

[yaroslavskoll]

Really interesting distribution scheme! Good luck.

[kurcelis]

How is the progress of the DC? Can't wait to hear about next news.