[ANN] [DC] Dark Clam |BOUNTY ->| We need more developers. | J-D wager |

[andulolika]

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!darkclam, welcome to the future_

#WTFISDARKCLAMS
darkclams are a new 1337 crypto currency targeted at members of the just-dice community.
darkclams were given out to everyone on just-dice who "claimed" them and had placed a bet on the site.
darkclams will make you a better person. (maybe)
darkclams will make you rich. (probably not)

#ICANHAZMOREDARKCLAMS
1> No the distribution was closed(by vote)


#FAQ

 How do some people have more DC than me?
    They had wagered more on just-dice than you.


 Will darkclam remain an XCP asset forever?
    No. darkclam will become a real coin with the following upgrades from the Bitcoin system:
        > Fast one minute confirmations.
        > Fully anonymous, censorship resistant payment system.
        > Fair distributed Proof of Burning Stake (PoBS) system.
#TODO

• live genesis file (Check www.darkclam.com for the current genesis file)
• drop
• voting

Remember
-NO ICO/PREMINE

NEWS:
-Claiming closed with 413 accounts claimed (in a bit over 200 addresses) with a total of 11,188,970.05213187 wagered.
-Drop and vote clear (voting against burning the leftover and close the distribution won.).


"Dev quotes:"
-Final darkclam genesis block:
f3d3bfd6fb319dea579816d942d246b4d4a34bbe1c1ed2ec9940326c281284f57e3061ac7f149a2 c238970b4b178e5dc07a9216e75c1f6768fb36293965b6862

I am posting this proof of existence so everyone knows the genesis file is final and has not been modified.
http://clamsight.com/rawtx/8d9be5284cc05f850180782abe9de9a1eab1ba3b873442b88d7d9cbd886e227c

[edit]: you can download the genesis file here:
http://darkclam.com/bootstrap/dcf3d3.json // 2017-01-23 I just observed the link is down, it will be fixed in a future,


2017-01-08 <----------------------------
Since we lack of a developer again I decided we will simply launch a clone of clam with no supply growth on stake (extremely low) and with the pretty big pot for future developers we should get going. Will update as soon as I know more.





Funds currently raised: 300.000 DCs
Address: 1MEdQgq8d7jCZpnYiN4XVDwLncVTj5rByE (100k are held in my personal stash till we get on chain)
andulolika - 50.000
Dochouse- 50.000
Marilyn - 200.000
PS: The fund is meant to be in DCs.
PS2:Main dev-pot filled, any extra funds recieved will be saved for a future.


Additionally there is over 1M darkclam for future developement, after a developer claims totally or partially the current fund. I would like to remember that currently the requeriments are fairly low.

Check the progress on Github! SOON

I would like to remember that we still need developers and that^ pot is still avaible

hax0r@gibson:~$ lynx darkclam.com

[1714945288]

1714945288

[1714945288]

1714945288

[1714945288]

1714945288

[1714945288]

1714945288

[logocreator]

Checked: ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

[kendari]

how to claim darkclam?

[andulolika]

how to claim darkclam?

First step is having an XCP(counterparty) address, after just login in your just-dice account do /public and /msg 51 ADDRESS .
Remember to not write anything after address.

[jpcfan]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.











ETH, look out!!!!

[lxxtikk]

 XCP(counterparty) address
link for that ?

[gioma]

XCP(counterparty) address
link for that ?

Seems to be disappeared

[andulolika]

XCP(counterparty) address
link for that ?

Seems to be disappeared

Its all up, on counterparty.io make a wallet. Thats all you need to do to claim, paste the address in a message to the user id 51.

[P-Funk]

Really interesting distribution scheme! Good luck.

[placebo]

lol really?

[skeet]

Should have also copy CLAM's original distribution method to get mass adoption. 

[lxxtikk]

XCP(counterparty) address
link for that ?

Seems to be disappeared

Its all up, on counterparty.io make a wallet. Thats all you need to do to claim, paste the address in a message to the user id 51.

ok 1 step i made a wallet
2 step :
where i should paste adress ,what adress i dont understand ,help

[andulolika]

XCP(counterparty) address
link for that ?

Seems to be disappeared

Its all up, on counterparty.io make a wallet. Thats all you need to do to claim, paste the address in a message to the user id 51.

ok 1 step i made a wallet
2 step :
where i should paste adress ,what adress i dont understand ,help

On the just-dice chat, first make your account /public then /msg 51 XCPADDRRSS and its done. If you didnt wagered you can still wager some.

[jpcfan]

would be great to hear people's suggestions on DC.



let's make darkclam great, like donald Trump making america great again!

[andulolika]

would be great to hear people's suggestions on DC.



let's make darkclam great, like donald Trump making america great again!

Ill avoid poli-tics but yeah community has a strong voice here, most decisions will be put under vote.

[johnnysof]

Just gave it a try, but I get this message on the chat: "has 0 DC pending; stay /public my friend". Is it normal?

[thefix]

Looks like an interesting project

I suggest considering additional distribution methods in order to get wider adoption

I am not a big gambler(crypto is a big enough gamble), but I like the idea of a coin similar to Clam with more of a fixed initial supply

Not sure giving the biggest supply to the heaviest gamblers is the best idea though

If the intention is just to convert Just Dice Gamblers to use Dark Clam then this is a clever tactic

[andulolika]

Just gave it a try, but I get this message on the chat: "has 0 DC pending; stay /public my friend". Is it normal?

Thats because you dont have any clam wagered, atleast on that account. Since there is a while till the drop is gonna be done you can still gamble and get few dcs on the side.

Looks like an interesting project

I suggest considering additional distribution methods in order to get wider adoption

I am not a big gambler(crypto is a big enough gamble), but I like the idea of a coin similar to Clam with more of a fixed initial supply

Not sure giving the biggest supply to the heaviest gamblers is the best idea though

If the intention is just to convert Just Dice Gamblers to use Dark Clam then this is a clever tactic

Thats not the intention, yet i did tried to contact other sites but i got no answer, i am thinking about adding investors balances 2x but i think that at this point that should be done under vote.

[thefix]

Just gave it a try, but I get this message on the chat: "has 0 DC pending; stay /public my friend". Is it normal?

Thats because you dont have any clam wagered, atleast on that account. Since there is a while till the drop is gonna be done you can still gamble and get few dcs on the side.

Looks like an interesting project

I suggest considering additional distribution methods in order to get wider adoption

I am not a big gambler(crypto is a big enough gamble), but I like the idea of a coin similar to Clam with more of a fixed initial supply

Not sure giving the biggest supply to the heaviest gamblers is the best idea though

If the intention is just to convert Just Dice Gamblers to use Dark Clam then this is a clever tactic

Thats not the intention, yet i did tried to contact other sites but i got no answer, i am thinking about adding investors balances 2x but i think that at this point that should be done under vote.

What is the ratio of bets to amount of Dark Clam a user would receive, is it something like 1 clam bet = 1 Dark clam?

If someone claims now and continues to use Just dice can they claim the additional coins from the continued betting in the future before the drop?

[andulolika]

Just gave it a try, but I get this message on the chat: "has 0 DC pending; stay /public my friend". Is it normal?

Thats because you dont have any clam wagered, atleast on that account. Since there is a while till the drop is gonna be done you can still gamble and get few dcs on the side.

Looks like an interesting project

I suggest considering additional distribution methods in order to get wider adoption

I am not a big gambler(crypto is a big enough gamble), but I like the idea of a coin similar to Clam with more of a fixed initial supply

Not sure giving the biggest supply to the heaviest gamblers is the best idea though

If the intention is just to convert Just Dice Gamblers to use Dark Clam then this is a clever tactic

Thats not the intention, yet i did tried to contact other sites but i got no answer, i am thinking about adding investors balances 2x but i think that at this point that should be done under vote.

What is the ratio of bets to amount of Dark Clam a user would receive, is it something like 1 clam bet = 1 Dark clam?

If someone claims now and continues to use Just dice can they claim the additional coins from the continued betting in the future before the drop?

Yes its 1:1. Yes even if you claim now whatever you wager till the drop still gets added. Thats the precise reason it tells you to stay /public after claiming.

[CjMapope]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.







ETH, look out!!!!

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

[beLiefs]

I like it

[dooglus]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

This is his main account: https://just-dice.com/user/993427

I guess he has others too.

[CjMapope]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

This is his main account: https://just-dice.com/user/993427

I guess he has others too.

awesome ty i knew you had low as heck house edge, and i was curious if he was up or not ;p
course it all depends on one's betting style one would imagine.
i personally have about 300 clams bet there, not a big gambler, but i always gamble at just-dice cause it just seems i lose less haha
(i think my jd profile would show im in the green still tho so i love that place)

[andulolika]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

This is his main account: https://just-dice.com/user/993427

I guess he has others too.

awesome ty i knew you had low as heck house edge, and i was curious if he was up or not ;p
course it all depends on one's betting style one would imagine.
i personally have about 300 clams bet there, not a big gambler, but i always gamble at just-dice cause it just seems i lose less haha
(i think my jd profile would show im in the green still tho so i love that place)

just-dice is the best place to dice in my opinion.
The claims and respective uids and XCP addresses are on the coin site.


A poll was added.

[jpcfan]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

This is his main account: https://just-dice.com/user/993427

I guess he has others too.

welcome to the thread doog.

[jpcfan]

i'm proud to say i have 370,000 DC coming my way.

holy CARP! haha is your profile public? shoot me your integer if so.
i would love to see your stats ;p

This is his main account: https://just-dice.com/user/993427

I guess he has others too.

I do. i think 15k-20k more from other accounts.


you know when guys talk about their penis size they always add an inch or two.

i do the same when talk about clam wagered

[marilyn4325]

Good luck with the coin. I think external distribution would be a bad idea, at least for all the JD gamblers

[rindo]

Good luck with the coin. I think external distribution would be a bad idea, at least for all the JD gamblers

it will hit the gambler to get Darkclam

[chris190]

I did the procedure, but I have nothing on counterwallet.io!

We have to wait a little bit? 

[andulolika]

I did the procedure, but I have nothing on counterwallet.io!

We have to wait a little bit?  

Yes for "the drop", you can check your address on darkclam.com or you can check individually accounts on jd with !dc (prefferently /msg 12275001 !dc). There is no fixed date yet but you can check progress here or on the site.

[chris190]

I did the procedure, but I have nothing on counterwallet.io!

We have to wait a little bit?  

Yes for "the drop", you can check your address on darkclam.com or you can check individually accounts on jd with !dc (prefferently /msg 12275001 !dc). There is no fixed date yet but you can check progress here or on the site.

ok, thanks.

[ttookk]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

[andulolika]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

DC, the coin is on XCP for the distribution.

[CjMapope]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

ya you kinda have to know how Counterparty does things to get it, but xcp is sweet, it allows things like this easily

edit;  honestly whoever bought that deltacredits thinking it was decred was just dumb. use you head there won't be a problem lol

[ttookk]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

ya you kinda have to know how Counterparty does things to get it, but xcp is sweet, it allows things like this easily

edit;  honestly whoever bought that deltacredits thinking it was decred was just dumb. use you head there won't be a problem lol

Well, DeltaCredits briefly moved from 25000(on the Sell side, on the buy side it was like 15000) to 35000, with a volume of 3,5 BTC/24h, which is quite a lot for yobit. I think there were a lot of people taking advantage of it(or at least trying to)  

Edit: 0s added

[andulolika]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

ya you kinda have to know how Counterparty does things to get it, but xcp is sweet, it allows things like this easily

edit;  honestly whoever bought that deltacredits thinking it was decred was just dumb. use you head there won't be a problem lol

What i mean is that we wont be on XCP for ever-

POLL UPDATED!

[CjMapope]

DC is the ticker symbol for demon coin by the way. We just recently learned, that it doesn´t necessarily mean that you have to change it (see DCR), but if you don´t and this is going to be a big thing, somebody might wanna buy up the 0.9 BTC worth of 1sat DC at yobit, because somebody´s gonna be confused and buy it...

EDIT: Wait, DC or XCP? I am confused...

ya you kinda have to know how Counterparty does things to get it, but xcp is sweet, it allows things like this easily

edit;  honestly whoever bought that deltacredits thinking it was decred was just dumb. use you head there won't be a problem lol

What i mean is that we wont be on XCP for ever-

POLL UPDATED!

no of course, i know how xcp works it just an easy way to build an asset without needing the dev work done to get the project started,
 the token can be made then transferred, and made independent
 in case you other guys were wondering how counterparty works

[psy112]

Awesome idea just waiting for my 90k DC ;P and a place to use them on

[andulolika]

Awesome idea just waiting for my 90k DC ;P and a place to use them on

Youll have atleast couple places at the beginning .

[dooglus]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

[andulolika]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

Thats a really interesting point of view, i believe we do have timestamp for claims so it should be all good, ill be looking further into this.

[CjMapope]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

i like this idea, as it would seem to stem the 2 original CLAM issues that ended up evolving as the coin carried on (non-fixed supply/ late diggers)
course i may be wrong, my understanding of CLAM is obviously dwarfed to your's Doog haha

[bhokor]

Hi all, yesterday i claimed in JD for my dark clams and the bot answered me ok i have some balance pending but when i go to the website i am not still here in the list , how often is the list updated?, i like the idea of the three halving , do we have actually some ETA for the launch ?
thank you

[andulolika]

Hi all, yesterday i claimed in JD for my dark clams and the bot answered me ok i have some balance pending but when i go to the website i am not still here in the list , how often is the list updated?, i like the idea of the three halving , do we have actually some ETA for the launch ?
thank you

Each 24h its updated, it says it on the site tough. We dont have an ETA because the coin has few hidden features we didnt made known yet :p.

[dooglus]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

Thats a really interesting point of view, i believe we do have timestamp for claims so it should be all good, ill be looking further into this.

I would be surprised if you already had 10 million wagered CLAMs' worth of claims yet. Did you? There's only 25 million wagered so far in total.

Edit: my point is that if you didn't then all claims so far will get rewarded 1:1 and so timestamps don't matter.

[andulolika]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

Thats a really interesting point of view, i believe we do have timestamp for claims so it should be all good, ill be looking further into this.

I would be surprised if you already had 10 million wagered CLAMs' worth of claims yet. Did you? There's only 25 million wagered so far in total.

Edit: my point is that if you didn't then all claims so far will get rewarded 1:1 and so timestamps don't matter.

ive been trying to know the supply real time for a while, it will eventually be on the site, eitherway i think we are close enough to the 10m or atleast we would be if TT finishes claiming.

[cryptospout]

when this coin is truly a coin and not an asset I will be opening a faucet for the coin. Until then wager some clams for the distribution. Don't have any clams to wager? Earn some here: https://cryptospout.com/offer_wall/clam_offer_wall.html

[Evil-Dragon]

Let's just say I have a lot of horses, I need to communicate to them secretly. We're having a meeting tonight by the watering hole. Can dark clams help my situation?

Neigh me back ASAP.

[andulolika]

Let's just say I have a lot of horses, I need to communicate to them secretly. We're having a meeting tonight by the watering hole. Can dark clams help my situation?

Neigh me back ASAP.

You could pay the ride with darkclam anonymously.

[Evil-Dragon]

Let's just say I have a lot of horses, I need to communicate to them secretly. We're having a meeting tonight by the watering hole. Can dark clams help my situation?

Neigh me back ASAP.

You could pay the ride with darkclam anonymously.

Do you like hay? We have stables full of it. We are open to neighotiating.

[andulolika]

Let's just say I have a lot of horses, I need to communicate to them secretly. We're having a meeting tonight by the watering hole. Can dark clams help my situation?

Neigh me back ASAP.

You could pay the ride with darkclam anonymously.

Do you like hay? We have stables full of it. We are open to neighotiating.

Lol we would be pioneering the hay market on cryptos.

[Dank Frank]

I hope there's a bright future for this coin. I wagered a shitload of clams. 

[Evil-Dragon]

Let's just say I have a lot of horses, I need to communicate to them secretly. We're having a meeting tonight by the watering hole. Can dark clams help my situation?

Neigh me back ASAP.

You could pay the ride with darkclam anonymously.

Do you like hay? We have stables full of it. We are open to neighotiating.

Lol we would be pioneering the hay market on cryptos.

I suggest a name such as HayRoad 2 for all this horsing around. Hay should be a primary currency with the ability to exchange to Carrots as another form of fiat.

Giddy up.

[daxxog]

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

[andulolika]

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

[thefix]

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

That is quite a bit, and unlike the original Clam these are likely to be all claimed.

I think this distribution method is a mistake and would prefer to see the total initial supply under 500,000

It would have been nice to do a more even distribution, say 500 Dark Clam for every JD user before a certain date.

I am not clear why giving the largest gamblers the most coins is desirable.

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

[CjMapope]

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

That is quite a bit, and unlike the original Clam these are likely to be all claimed.

I think this distribution method is a mistake and would prefer to see the total initial supply under 500,000

It would have been nice to do a more even distribution, say 500 Dark Clam for every JD user before a certain date.

I am not clear why giving the largest gamblers the most coins is desirable.

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

i agree with wondering if "rewarding the biggest gamblers" is best, but i hope to see the poll come of something with that
i also wonder about pos? will it be static reward? and if so, same as clam, or different?
anxiously awaiting launch!

[daxxog]

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

The coin will first be live on the Counterparty blockchain (XCP). Later on we will move it onto the existing CLAM blockchain with my new PoBS system for rewards and a custom VM (think ETH) for all transactions. On top of that we plan on making it fully anonymous (think XMR).

So in the end you are getting the best of CLAM, XCP, ETH, and XMR all in one coin.

WTF is PoBS?
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/daxxog/9fe4b14946a2f0cf49c2/raw/burningstake

On the topic of initial XCP distribution (aka drop):
When the coin drops (very soon) we will hold a vote for everyone who claimed to see what they want to see happen. If they want to see more darkclam at maybe a lower claim rate as doog suggested, we certainly can do that. Otherwise I will burn everything that is left over and lock the asset supply until PoBS is ready.

[Bitcoininspace]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

[andulolika]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

its still gambling but yes its kinda an abuse but its still the most fair way, read down to see why.

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

That is quite a bit, and unlike the original Clam these are likely to be all claimed.

I think this distribution method is a mistake and would prefer to see the total initial supply under 500,000

It would have been nice to do a more even distribution, say 500 Dark Clam for every JD user before a certain date.

I am not clear why giving the largest gamblers the most coins is desirable.

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

i agree with wondering if "rewarding the biggest gamblers" is best, but i hope to see the poll come of something with that
i also wonder about pos? will it be static reward? and if so, same as clam, or different?
anxiously awaiting launch!

i have myself over 30 accounts, dont you think that would br an abusr too? @thefix

There will be a bunch of polls, rewarding investors will be one of them but i see no better way to do it, if its per account it can be abused easily and if its investors only it would be like doubling the clam supply but excluding anyone out of jd. I personally like it this way.

[thefix]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

its still gambling but yes its kinda an abuse but its still the most fair way, read down to see why.

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

That is quite a bit, and unlike the original Clam these are likely to be all claimed.

I think this distribution method is a mistake and would prefer to see the total initial supply under 500,000

It would have been nice to do a more even distribution, say 500 Dark Clam for every JD user before a certain date.

I am not clear why giving the largest gamblers the most coins is desirable.

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

i agree with wondering if "rewarding the biggest gamblers" is best, but i hope to see the poll come of something with that
i also wonder about pos? will it be static reward? and if so, same as clam, or different?
anxiously awaiting launch!

i have myself over 30 accounts, dont you think that would br an abusr too? @thefix

There will be a bunch of polls, rewarding investors will be one of them but i see no better way to do it, if its per account it can be abused easily and if its investors only it would be like doubling the clam supply but excluding anyone out of jd. I personally like it this way.

Thirty accounts seems a bit unusual and I do not think it is common practice, but I could be wrong. It would be difficult to abuse(per account reward) if the distribution date was in the past as I mentioned before.

It will be an interesting experiment no matter what is decided upon and I wish it success!

[andulolika]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

its still gambling but yes its kinda an abuse but its still the most fair way, read down to see why.

Total amount claimed is now live on darkclam.com. You can also sort the columns in the genesis section.

To the future!

^ our dev daxxog.

Over 9.1m claimed, this week we will drop and do a vote, after that we will normally follow our road.

That is quite a bit, and unlike the original Clam these are likely to be all claimed.

I think this distribution method is a mistake and would prefer to see the total initial supply under 500,000

It would have been nice to do a more even distribution, say 500 Dark Clam for every JD user before a certain date.

I am not clear why giving the largest gamblers the most coins is desirable.

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

i agree with wondering if "rewarding the biggest gamblers" is best, but i hope to see the poll come of something with that
i also wonder about pos? will it be static reward? and if so, same as clam, or different?
anxiously awaiting launch!

i have myself over 30 accounts, dont you think that would br an abusr too? @thefix

There will be a bunch of polls, rewarding investors will be one of them but i see no better way to do it, if its per account it can be abused easily and if its investors only it would be like doubling the clam supply but excluding anyone out of jd. I personally like it this way.

Thirty accounts seems a bit unusual and I do not think it is common practice, but I could be wrong. It would be difficult to abuse(per account reward) if the distribution date was in the past as I mentioned before.

It will be an interesting experiment no matter what is decided upon and I wish it success!

Dont underestimate people that uses bots or people that want to avoid to be seen claiming, besides there is a reason people have to do and be /public, is not doog who facilitates the data but the users themselves.

[InceptionCoin]

As I understand this coin is just promo of just-dice?

[andulolika]

As I understand this coin is just promo of just-dice?

No, i asked dooglus if he is making it, he didnt wanted so i did it, or well got someone to do it.


@thefix not to mention the hundreds of rain-catch accounts that would go even over the "deposit" proof.

[dooglus]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

Note that whatever percentage you play at you expect to lose 1% of the total you wager. When you win at 98.99% you profit almost nothing, and you'll hit a loss sooner or later and be almost bust.

[andulolika]

The only way I can see this getting abused is by users playing 98.99% win chance and spamming a lot of wagered to be able to get more coins.

could the wager turn it theoretically +ev? Atleast for now?

Note that whatever percentage you play at you expect to lose 1% of the total you wager. When you win at 98.99% you profit almost nothing, and you'll hit a loss sooner or later and be almost bust.

[seedtrue]

Good luck with this andu. I unfortunately have none to claim since I do not really gamble, and when I do it was always on a throw-away anon account 

[andulolika]

Good luck with this andu. I unfortunately have none to claim since I do not really gamble, and when I do it was always on a throw-away anon account  

We will put a bunch of votes up, you should claim even dust so atleast you can vote. Thanks
Edit: pd: ask doog for them lol.

[DarkClam]

I like the way the distribution is now. Excited to see what it does once the drop. Also, should try to get it on a couple exchanges.
DarkClam2TheMooooooon

[jpcfan]

9.29 million darkclam claimed so far!





looking good andu

[jpcfan]

I think it would make the most sense to have the distribution be ongoing, in a similar way to Bitcoin distribution, with regularly halvenings.

 * The first 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 1 DC each.
 * The 2nd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.5 DC each.
 * The 3rd 10 million wagered CLAMs claimed get 0.25 DC each.
 * And so on.

That way you have a known fixed money supply of 20 million DC, you incentivize people to claim earlier rather than later, and you have an ongoing supply to keep people interested. You just pre-mine 20 million DC, keep most of them in a well-known "unclaimed" address, then everyone can see how many are still to be claimed.

that is a great idea dooglus

[andulolika]

I like the way the distribution is now. Excited to see what it does once the drop. Also, should try to get it on a couple exchanges.
DarkClam2TheMooooooon

i sent message to few exhanges but got ignored, ill try different ones tough.

9.29 million darkclam claimed so far!





looking good andu

It would be updated more often than each 24h but it takes about an hour to make, so yeah it can get annoying.

[binary_tree]

How to get or claim this coin ?

[Panadacoin]

We can mine this soon, or ever, or no?

[Dank Frank]

How to get or claim this coin ?

Wager clams on just-dice... Read the site: http://darkclam.com/

[andulolika]

We can mine this soon, or ever, or no?

When the real coin goes live do you plan to make it POS like Clam?

The coin will first be live on the Counterparty blockchain (XCP). Later on we will move it onto the existing CLAM blockchain with my new PoBS system for rewards and a custom VM (think ETH) for all transactions. On top of that we plan on making it fully anonymous (think XMR).

So in the end you are getting the best of CLAM, XCP, ETH, and XMR all in one coin.

WTF is PoBS?
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/daxxog/9fe4b14946a2f0cf49c2/raw/burningstake

On the topic of initial XCP distribution (aka drop):
When the coin drops (very soon) we will hold a vote for everyone who claimed to see what they want to see happen. If they want to see more darkclam at maybe a lower claim rate as doog suggested, we certainly can do that. Otherwise I will burn everything that is left over and lock the asset supply until PoBS is ready.

[thefix]

We can mine this soon, or ever, or no?

Think of it like an ICO for gamblers with the proceeds going to Just dice

You would have to convert one coin into the new coin by gambling it on Just dice


If you like gambling this is the coin for you otherwise you are better off sticking with the original Clam coin.


Keep in mind the value will also likely be much less since the total available supply is going to be close to 7+ times more than the current available supply of Clams

[andulolika]

We can mine this soon, or ever, or no?

Think of it like an ICO for gamblers with the proceeds going to Just dice

You would have to convert one coin into the new coin by gambling it on Just dice


If you like gambling this is the coin for you otherwise you are better off sticking with the original Clam coin.


Keep in mind the value will also likely be much less since the total available supply is going to be close to 7+ times more than the current available supply of Clams

This is just the distribution, which will eventually end, DC is proof of burning stake, check this : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/daxxog/9fe4b14946a2f0cf49c2/raw/burningstake

[andulolika]

We almost reached 400 (395) accounts claimed with 9.89m claimed so far!!!!

[Panadacoin]

You might want to fix signature, it does not really fit on screen.

[andulolika]

You might want to fix signature, it does not really fit on screen.

It fits in mine :/ i cannot really fix it, it was a really shitty job i done there, ill try to get someone to fix it soon.

[arbitrage]

OK i have created account and what should i do now?
https://wallet.counterwallet.io
I have address but to claim it here on this forum is not good thing, i mean this is prohibited am i right?

[andulolika]

OK i have created account and what should i do now?
https://wallet.counterwallet.io
I have address but to claim it here on this forum is not good thing, i mean this is prohibited am i right?

check darkclam.com or just go to just-dice.com

[arbitrage]

And my balance is 0?
How i can claim at https://just-dice.com/ ?
Where do i enter my address or something i don't get it?

[andulolika]

And my balance is 0?
How i can claim at https://just-dice.com/ ?
Where do i enter my address or something i don't get it?

Its everything on darkclam.com, first you must have clams wagered or wager some (id hurry up with this last one atleast to get a vote) then you do /public and /msg 51 ADDRESS, where address is your XCP addy, be sure you dont write anything but the address, ive seen few users that claimed with 0, ill just guess they new users to just-dice.

[CjMapope]

made a few clams, increased my volume for some more DC woot awaiting launch!
i like that i can !dc for my live claim balance anytime

[arbitrage]

Created address
https://counterwallet.coindaddy.io/#pages/balances.html
Then:
https://just-dice.com/msg%2051%20!darkclam1ADRESS

and balance still 0?

[andulolika]

Created address
https://counterwallet.coindaddy.io/#pages/balances.html
Then:
https://just-dice.com/msg%2051%20!darkclam1ADRESS

and balance still 0?

Lets see you enter in the chat, you write /public and then press enter, after you write /msg 51 ADDRESS (While address is you XCP address.) And press enter.
Remember to not write anything else but the address on the message.
Also dont use /private till we are done with the distribution.
Use /msg 1275001 !dc to check your dc balance from that account any time, you can claim as many accounts on a single address as you want.

[arbitrage]

I got some balance 0.00010100 is this ok? I mean this is really low for volume?
I think this is not for me, i don't have time for lurking in chat room.

[andulolika]

I got some balance 0.00010100 is this ok? I mean this is really low for volume?
I think this is not for me, i don't have time for lurking in chat room.

you still didnt understood and i dont know how to explain to you anymore
You lurked just to be able to claim and get a vote, if you want more darkclams you can gamble, otherwise wait till we distribute and they get traded. I can see it doesnt make much sense for you while not being a jd.

[mrsalve]

Andu, I joined a dark side.

[andulolika]

Andu, I joined a dark side.

Welcome!, not sure who you are, gordob? ( he said he is joining the dark side so i assumed its you.)

[gordob]

Andu, I joined a dark side.

Welcome!, not sure who you are, gordob? ( he said he is joining the dark side so i assumed its you.)

Haha no - but I'm also 'going dark'

[zazarb]

@andu, you several day not updated genesis file

[andulolika]

@andu, you several day not updated genesis file

Im not the one that updates it, yet daxxog is working hard in other stuff, i guess it gets him lazy cuz it takes an hour to make the file, i guess it will be updated now when we do the voting.

[andulolika]

DROP AND VOTING IN HOURS, CLAIMING CLOSING.

[daxxog]

Final darkclam genesis block:
f3d3bfd6fb319dea579816d942d246b4d4a34bbe1c1ed2ec9940326c281284f57e3061ac7f149a2 c238970b4b178e5dc07a9216e75c1f6768fb36293965b6862

I am posting this proof of existence so everyone knows the genesis file is final and has not been modified.
http://clamsight.com/rawtx/8d9be5284cc05f850180782abe9de9a1eab1ba3b873442b88d7d9cbd886e227c

[edit]: you can download the genesis file here:
http://darkclam.com/bootstrap/dcf3d3.json

[edit2]: Site has been updated with new information. Drop and first vote will happen tomorrow sometime and all claims are locked in!

[kolloh]

You should have really announced a date of when claims would be closing in my opinion.

From the original announcement:

When is the drop?
    Possibly in a month, but we have not made a final decision. Check back here for official development info.

Its been 12 days since this thread was posted and no date of when the drop would happen was ever posted until 1-2 hours beforehand.

[andulolika]

You should have really announced a date of when claims would be closing in my opinion.

From the original announcement:

When is the drop?
    Possibly in a month, but we have not made a final decision. Check back here for official development info.

Its been 12 days since this thread was posted and no date of when the drop would happen was ever posted until 1-2 hours beforehand.

if you read a bit upper youll see thats tomorrow morning daxxog time.

[Vaccomondus]

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

[Acidx]

How is this thread so dead andu? Can you at least update it now and then and spend some time on the coin?

Like what is being done currently? This is a good idea for a coin but seems like it needs some more moderation and access to a broader audience than this dump of a place.

[andulolika]

How is this thread so dead andu? Can you at least update it now and then and spend some time on the coin?

Like what is being done currently? This is a good idea for a coin but seems like it needs some more moderation and access to a broader audience than this dump of a place.

I cannot bump the thread myself all day long, i spent a lot of time taking care of peoples questions, i cannot make people post more.

I do agree the first post is a bit unorganized but if i literaly write everything there will be no emotion when we get in coin-mode.
Currently a bit of everything is being done, the dice is halfway done and kinda same with the coin i believe.
Edit: Also, i dont think the quality of a coin should be ranked by how nice its ANN is organised.

[gordob]

How is this thread so dead andu? Can you at least update it now and then and spend some time on the coin?

Like what is being done currently? This is a good idea for a coin but seems like it needs some more moderation and access to a broader audience than this dump of a place.

I cannot bump the thread myself all day long, i spent a lot of time taking care of peoples questions, i cannot make people post more.

I do agree the first post is a bit unorganized but if i literaly write everything there will be no emotion when we get in coin-mode.
Currently a bit of everything is being done, the dice is halfway done and kinda same with the coin i believe.

Hey guys, whats the countdown for the actual coin drop?

[andulolika]

How is this thread so dead andu? Can you at least update it now and then and spend some time on the coin?

Like what is being done currently? This is a good idea for a coin but seems like it needs some more moderation and access to a broader audience than this dump of a place.

I cannot bump the thread myself all day long, i spent a lot of time taking care of peoples questions, i cannot make people post more.

I do agree the first post is a bit unorganized but if i literaly write everything there will be no emotion when we get in coin-mode.
Currently a bit of everything is being done, the dice is halfway done and kinda same with the coin i believe.

Hey guys, whats the countdown for the actual coin drop?

less than 24h, even today i believe, ill make the ann nicer later.

[DarkClam]

When can we expect to see darkclam in our counter party wallets?

[Acidx]

When can we expect to see darkclam in our counter party wallets?

If you have to ask that then...

[daxxog]

IMPORTANT
I am sending a bootstrap test asset (A1921106674191427300) drop right now. If you spend these coins before the drop, you will not properly receive your DC.

Edit: Due to long confirmation times and bugs in the counterparty system, the drop will take much longer than I originally expected. Hold on to your test assets, unless you want your darkclam claim to go to someone else!!

Be patient. Your darkclams and first vote token will arrive soon enough.

[DarkClam]

When can we expect to see darkclam in our counter party wallets?

If you have to ask that then...

That doesn't make any sense.

I have 2 different A(random) numbers in there now. I checked the exchange shows i have 0 darkclam
But shows that someone sold 10 already,.

[mrsalve]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

[andulolika]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

[mrsalve]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

[andulolika]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

me? Probably, the bot? Not sure. If its about 48h ago then you missed.

[daxxog]

When can we expect to see darkclam in our counter party wallets?

If you have to ask that then...

That doesn't make any sense.

I have 2 different A(random) numbers in there now. I checked the exchange shows i have 0 darkclam
But shows that someone sold 10 already,.

Why would you spread a lie like that? I currently hold 100% of all DARKCLAM in circulation and am in the process of distributing to everyone. The random number assets are "drop tests" I am running.

https://counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM

[daxxog]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

Bot was taken offline and the claims were finalized and locked in on 2016-02-24 22:43:28. If the current holders vote to do so, control of the darkclam xcp asset will be given to dooglas for more distribution. Otherwise I will burn every single last darkclam left over and you will get nothing. Fair is fair.

[daxxog]

The drop happened.



Check back here for information on the first vote. It is now safe to spend your "test" coins and darkclams!

[andulolika]

The drop happened.



Check back here for information on the first vote. It is now safe to spend your "test" coins and darkclams!

And it started .

[DarkClam]

When can we expect to see darkclam in our counter party wallets?

If you have to ask that then...

That doesn't make any sense.

I have 2 different A(random) numbers in there now. I checked the exchange shows i have 0 darkclam
But shows that someone sold 10 already,.

Why would you spread a lie like that? I currently hold 100% of all DARKCLAM in circulation and am in the process of distributing to everyone. The random number assets are "drop tests" I am running.

https://counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM

Really? What did i "lie" about?
Everything in that post was true.

[DarkClam]

I guess this is what confused me.....

But i didn't spread a lie about anything....

https://i.imgur.com/hWgynTD.jpg

Sorry about that, I tried a sell order but it's not working. Just to get it going,lol

[mrsalve]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

me? Probably, the bot? Not sure. If its about 48h ago then you missed.

I spoke with andu in JD private chat and he told he speaking to you to fix it.

I made in time I claimed before making first post in this thread (February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM)

[CjMapope]

ya i saw that tx few days ago in the market but the timestamp made me think it was an earlier project (or a glitch)
theres one order there now but it's not cheap haha (and that 2014 order is wiped from history)
hope it works out for you on your claim!

[doothewop]

I spoke with andu in JD private chat and he told he speaking to you to fix it.

That's andu you're talking to.

[andulolika]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

me? Probably, the bot? Not sure. If its about 48h ago then you missed.

I spoke with andu in JD private chat and he told he speaking to you to fix it.

I made in time I claimed before making first post in this thread (February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM)

I did speak speak with him, but i believe you done something wrong.

[daxxog]

I guess this is what confused me.....

But i didn't spread a lie about anything....



Sorry about that, I tried a sell order but it's not working. Just to get it going,lol

That says 2014 which is way before I even created this asset.

[cloverme]

Congrats on the drop 

Looking forward to good times in the future.

[gordob]

Firstly thx for the drop )

Any suggestions on how remove those test coins from counterparty - burn address?

[allinbox]

Firstly thx for the drop )

Any suggestions on how remove those test coins from counterparty - burn address?

You considerd to send them to another testnetaddress maybe ?!

[mrsalve]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

me? Probably, the bot? Not sure. If its about 48h ago then you missed.

I spoke with andu in JD private chat and he told he speaking to you to fix it.

I made in time I claimed before making first post in this thread (February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM)

I did speak speak with him, but i believe you done something wrong.

Dude!

I tryed to resolve this issue in private and in civilized manner but you telling me I screwed up and then calling me lier is not KOSHER dude.

I telling once more that I climed on time made my data public on JD. Made an DC address on counterwallet and then PM'd you
(51) <clamdu> my DC address. After that I made first post in this thread waht will proof timeline.

I will email to doog and ask to get my PM's log to you to proof I sent address in PM cus I guess from there is the issue that I was not added to list with everyone els who climed.
I know there is very small chance that PM's log can be recovered but I will give it to try.

[zazarb]

I looked at http://darkclam.com and didn't find my address there.

Have you claimed? If yes are you sure you had it done right? Prolly you claimed after claiming was locked.

too much for this drop, can you make it simple, at the end an airdrop is basically a giveaway

Is not a giveaway, it took this long so people have time to claim.

No I claimed like instructed and days ago. Also sent you PM in JD with addy. Could be you missed it???

me? Probably, the bot? Not sure. If its about 48h ago then you missed.

I spoke with andu in JD private chat and he told he speaking to you to fix it.

I made in time I claimed before making first post in this thread (February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM)

I did speak speak with him, but i believe you done something wrong.

Dude!

I tryed to resolve this issue in private and in civilized manner but you telling me I screwed up and then calling me lier is not KOSHER dude.

I telling once more that I climed on time made my data public on JD. Made an DC address on counterwallet and then PM'd you
(51) <clamdu> my DC address. After that I made first post in this thread waht will proof timeline.

I will email to doog and ask to get my PM's log to you to proof I sent address in PM cus I guess from there is the issue that I was not added to list with everyone els who climed.
I know there is very small chance that PM's log can be recovered but I will give it to try.

probably you address wrong, did you not got confirmation from bot in jd?

[ilidion]

winchester on patrol
andu was that the real drop or just the test?

[mrsalve]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

[zazarb]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

[mrsalve]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

[Acidx]

Drop received, good job.

[andulolika]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

[mrsalve]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

[Makingsure]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

[andulolika]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

I wanted to give him his 5k from my own stash but meeh not anymore.

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

Yeah i smoke weed, is there a problem with that?

[jpcfan]

I love this. anyone want to buy some DC? pm me

[andulolika]

How did i miss this ...

I did my best in spreading the word, maybe youll still be able to claim, thats in the hands of whoever claimed already, besides if you have nice ideas in the future you can get some darkclams that way.

[mrsalve]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

I wanted to give him his 5k from my own stash but meeh not anymore.

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

Yeah i smoke weed, is there a problem with that?

I don't generally have problem with it I'm all for libertys but if you regret your things and I'm in other side then I might have.
Do joint or what ever you do it's between your self, your doctor and law enforcement agencies.

Here is a log in of PM's without any alteration so don't give any more BS I didn't make on time or whatever and tell I'm hm-hmm lying in forum.


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2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] !darkclam
2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:28 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:31 [ (51)  → (1213144)  ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 15:03:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-24 20:04:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] (1213144) <Zipcode> !dc 1213144; unclaimed = 4902.653603 !darkclam
2016-02-24 20:04:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] unclaimed = 4902.653603
2016-02-26 15:39:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1 week is too long
2016-02-26 15:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok lets do it private
2016-02-26 15:39:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ot had to be there aftwr 24h
2016-02-26 15:39:31 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably claimed wrong... we need to look into it
2016-02-26 15:39:40 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] how moch you had/have?
2016-02-26 15:40:38 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yesterday when it give me bold text when I put !dc in was 4900+somethig
2016-02-26 15:40:59 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then its all good
2016-02-26 15:41:07 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you should have testcoins in XCP
2016-02-26 15:41:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] do not trade them
2016-02-26 15:41:15 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] 4903 or 4906 something like that
2016-02-26 15:41:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] unless you went /private
2016-02-26 15:41:29 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] let me check
2016-02-26 15:41:32 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] thats the thing I don't
2016-02-26 15:41:49 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 5036 you should have
2016-02-26 15:41:56 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] if yday was showing that then it should be good
2016-02-26 15:42:42 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you not in the list
2016-02-26 15:43:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ill speak with daxx
2016-02-26 15:43:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] worst case scenario we manually add you we dhall see
2016-02-26 15:43:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 15:43:46 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] but ill just guess you didnt claimed well.
2016-02-26 15:44:00 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean i had this worry many times
2016-02-26 15:44:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did exactly what instruction told
2016-02-26 15:44:21 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] and it all resulted in people doing it wrong, yet if you were gettung the messsge then :/
2016-02-26 15:44:37 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] when you were pming me your address did it said pending?
2016-02-26 15:44:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no
2016-02-26 15:45:05 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then you didnt claimed
2016-02-26 15:45:08 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you are public
2016-02-26 15:45:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] but not 100% sure
2016-02-26 15:45:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] did you do /msg 51 ADDRESS?
2016-02-26 15:45:25 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remember
2016-02-26 15:45:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] countetparty.io address
2016-02-26 15:45:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes
2016-02-26 15:46:04 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] have you done /private after the /public?
2016-02-26 15:46:11 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] right after I made addy
2016-02-26 15:46:24 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I have not
2016-02-26 15:47:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] just in case ill say that first you had to be public then write address but eitherway ill get you done today
2016-02-26 15:48:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes I made it public as first step
2016-02-26 15:50:00 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 19:17:01 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] Do you also need me give you my dc addy here again or you find my original msg?
2016-02-27 14:32:41 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, I forgot to ask did you dot my DC address?
2016-02-27 14:32:57 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] hmm`?
2016-02-27 14:33:44 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] *got
2016-02-27 14:34:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I have been thinking what may be gone wrong and only 1 thing I can think up
2016-02-27 14:34:53 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i dont have your dc address
2016-02-27 14:35:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably missed it or nailed the bot down.
2016-02-27 14:35:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I did in on time I'm sure of it
2016-02-27 14:35:57 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last step was in claiming send msg to you with wallet addy
2016-02-27 14:36:10 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean there was few hours that the bot was down, you got an message back when you sent me the addy?
2016-02-27 14:37:13 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remeber that if I got message back but I don't think I did
2016-02-27 14:38:12 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] could be I sent it when bot was down
2016-02-27 14:38:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] or when I sent you addy I put it as was in instruction
2016-02-27 14:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-27 14:39:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I had address in []
2016-02-27 14:40:52 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] the addy was in parenthesis
2016-02-28 18:17:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, was there a drop of DC?
2016-02-28 21:12:51 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey was there a DC drop?
2016-02-28 21:14:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] yes
2016-02-28 21:15:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I see I hope you didn't forget about me
2016-02-28 21:15:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] you told you gonna take care of this
2016-02-28 21:16:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you.done.somerhing wrong and you were lying, there.is not much i can do.
2016-02-28 21:16:30 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] me lying???
2016-02-28 21:16:41 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] in the thread
2016-02-28 21:16:49 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I haven't told a word that isn't true
2016-02-28 21:17:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] what I lied about?
2016-02-28 21:17:15 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] go resd
2016-02-28 21:17:18 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] read
2016-02-28 21:18:33 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] my first post was February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM Telling I joined darj side
2016-02-28 21:19:04 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] after I did all steps
2016-02-28 21:20:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did
2016-02-28 21:20:56 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last one was sent PM to you with wallet addy
2016-02-28 21:22:48 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't know how I can proof it but I did

END
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[andulolika]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

I wanted to give him his 5k from my own stash but meeh not anymore.

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

Yeah i smoke weed, is there a problem with that?

I don't generally have problem with it I'm all for libertys but if you regret your things and I'm in other side then I might have.
Do joint or what ever you do it's between your self, your doctor and law enforcement agencies.

Here is a log in of PM's without any alteration so don't give any more BS I didn't make on time or whatever and tell I'm hm-hmm lying in forum.


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2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] !darkclam
2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:28 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:31 [ (51)  → (1213144)  ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 15:03:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-24 20:04:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] (1213144) <Zipcode> !dc 1213144; unclaimed = 4902.653603 !darkclam
2016-02-24 20:04:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] unclaimed = 4902.653603
2016-02-26 15:39:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1 week is too long
2016-02-26 15:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok lets do it private
2016-02-26 15:39:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ot had to be there aftwr 24h
2016-02-26 15:39:31 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably claimed wrong... we need to look into it
2016-02-26 15:39:40 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] how moch you had/have?
2016-02-26 15:40:38 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yesterday when it give me bold text when I put !dc in was 4900+somethig
2016-02-26 15:40:59 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then its all good
2016-02-26 15:41:07 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you should have testcoins in XCP
2016-02-26 15:41:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] do not trade them
2016-02-26 15:41:15 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] 4903 or 4906 something like that
2016-02-26 15:41:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] unless you went /private
2016-02-26 15:41:29 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] let me check
2016-02-26 15:41:32 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] thats the thing I don't
2016-02-26 15:41:49 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 5036 you should have
2016-02-26 15:41:56 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] if yday was showing that then it should be good
2016-02-26 15:42:42 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you not in the list
2016-02-26 15:43:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ill speak with daxx
2016-02-26 15:43:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] worst case scenario we manually add you we dhall see
2016-02-26 15:43:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 15:43:46 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] but ill just guess you didnt claimed well.
2016-02-26 15:44:00 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean i had this worry many times
2016-02-26 15:44:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did exactly what instruction told
2016-02-26 15:44:21 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] and it all resulted in people doing it wrong, yet if you were gettung the messsge then :/
2016-02-26 15:44:37 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] when you were pming me your address did it said pending?
2016-02-26 15:44:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no
2016-02-26 15:45:05 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then you didnt claimed
2016-02-26 15:45:08 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you are public
2016-02-26 15:45:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] but not 100% sure
2016-02-26 15:45:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] did you do /msg 51 ADDRESS?
2016-02-26 15:45:25 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remember
2016-02-26 15:45:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] countetparty.io address
2016-02-26 15:45:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes
2016-02-26 15:46:04 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] have you done /private after the /public?
2016-02-26 15:46:11 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] right after I made addy
2016-02-26 15:46:24 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I have not
2016-02-26 15:47:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] just in case ill say that first you had to be public then write address but eitherway ill get you done today
2016-02-26 15:48:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes I made it public as first step
2016-02-26 15:50:00 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 19:17:01 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] Do you also need me give you my dc addy here again or you find my original msg?
2016-02-27 14:32:41 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, I forgot to ask did you dot my DC address?
2016-02-27 14:32:57 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] hmm`?
2016-02-27 14:33:44 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] *got
2016-02-27 14:34:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I have been thinking what may be gone wrong and only 1 thing I can think up
2016-02-27 14:34:53 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i dont have your dc address
2016-02-27 14:35:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably missed it or nailed the bot down.
2016-02-27 14:35:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I did in on time I'm sure of it
2016-02-27 14:35:57 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last step was in claiming send msg to you with wallet addy
2016-02-27 14:36:10 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean there was few hours that the bot was down, you got an message back when you sent me the addy?
2016-02-27 14:37:13 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remeber that if I got message back but I don't think I did
2016-02-27 14:38:12 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] could be I sent it when bot was down
2016-02-27 14:38:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] or when I sent you addy I put it as was in instruction
2016-02-27 14:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-27 14:39:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I had address in []
2016-02-27 14:40:52 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] the addy was in parenthesis
2016-02-28 18:17:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, was there a drop of DC?
2016-02-28 21:12:51 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey was there a DC drop?
2016-02-28 21:14:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] yes
2016-02-28 21:15:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I see I hope you didn't forget about me
2016-02-28 21:15:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] you told you gonna take care of this
2016-02-28 21:16:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you.done.somerhing wrong and you were lying, there.is not much i can do.
2016-02-28 21:16:30 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] me lying???
2016-02-28 21:16:41 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] in the thread
2016-02-28 21:16:49 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I haven't told a word that isn't true
2016-02-28 21:17:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] what I lied about?
2016-02-28 21:17:15 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] go resd
2016-02-28 21:17:18 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] read
2016-02-28 21:18:33 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] my first post was February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM Telling I joined darj side
2016-02-28 21:19:04 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] after I did all steps
2016-02-28 21:20:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did
2016-02-28 21:20:56 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last one was sent PM to you with wallet addy
2016-02-28 21:22:48 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't know how I can proof it but I did

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Well yeah, you missed the drop since you had to write the address only, the [] was what made you not get in the distribution, is your mistake, sorry. Just wait till dice is settled ill give you 5k myself.
Ps: remember that you had to write the address only without parenthesis.

[worthyou]

Any1 want to buy dark clam while its beginning and cheap, pm me

[mrsalve]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

I wanted to give him his 5k from my own stash but meeh not anymore.

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

Yeah i smoke weed, is there a problem with that?

I don't generally have problem with it I'm all for libertys but if you regret your things and I'm in other side then I might have.
Do joint or what ever you do it's between your self, your doctor and law enforcement agencies.

Here is a log in of PM's without any alteration so don't give any more BS I didn't make on time or whatever and tell I'm hm-hmm lying in forum.


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2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] !darkclam
2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:28 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:31 [ (51)  → (1213144)  ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 15:03:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-24 20:04:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] (1213144) <Zipcode> !dc 1213144; unclaimed = 4902.653603 !darkclam
2016-02-24 20:04:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] unclaimed = 4902.653603
2016-02-26 15:39:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1 week is too long
2016-02-26 15:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok lets do it private
2016-02-26 15:39:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ot had to be there aftwr 24h
2016-02-26 15:39:31 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably claimed wrong... we need to look into it
2016-02-26 15:39:40 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] how moch you had/have?
2016-02-26 15:40:38 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yesterday when it give me bold text when I put !dc in was 4900+somethig
2016-02-26 15:40:59 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then its all good
2016-02-26 15:41:07 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you should have testcoins in XCP
2016-02-26 15:41:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] do not trade them
2016-02-26 15:41:15 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] 4903 or 4906 something like that
2016-02-26 15:41:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] unless you went /private
2016-02-26 15:41:29 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] let me check
2016-02-26 15:41:32 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] thats the thing I don't
2016-02-26 15:41:49 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 5036 you should have
2016-02-26 15:41:56 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] if yday was showing that then it should be good
2016-02-26 15:42:42 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you not in the list
2016-02-26 15:43:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ill speak with daxx
2016-02-26 15:43:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] worst case scenario we manually add you we dhall see
2016-02-26 15:43:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 15:43:46 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] but ill just guess you didnt claimed well.
2016-02-26 15:44:00 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean i had this worry many times
2016-02-26 15:44:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did exactly what instruction told
2016-02-26 15:44:21 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] and it all resulted in people doing it wrong, yet if you were gettung the messsge then :/
2016-02-26 15:44:37 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] when you were pming me your address did it said pending?
2016-02-26 15:44:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no
2016-02-26 15:45:05 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then you didnt claimed
2016-02-26 15:45:08 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you are public
2016-02-26 15:45:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] but not 100% sure
2016-02-26 15:45:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] did you do /msg 51 ADDRESS?
2016-02-26 15:45:25 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remember
2016-02-26 15:45:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] countetparty.io address
2016-02-26 15:45:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes
2016-02-26 15:46:04 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] have you done /private after the /public?
2016-02-26 15:46:11 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] right after I made addy
2016-02-26 15:46:24 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I have not
2016-02-26 15:47:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] just in case ill say that first you had to be public then write address but eitherway ill get you done today
2016-02-26 15:48:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes I made it public as first step
2016-02-26 15:50:00 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 19:17:01 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] Do you also need me give you my dc addy here again or you find my original msg?
2016-02-27 14:32:41 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, I forgot to ask did you dot my DC address?
2016-02-27 14:32:57 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] hmm`?
2016-02-27 14:33:44 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] *got
2016-02-27 14:34:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I have been thinking what may be gone wrong and only 1 thing I can think up
2016-02-27 14:34:53 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i dont have your dc address
2016-02-27 14:35:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably missed it or nailed the bot down.
2016-02-27 14:35:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I did in on time I'm sure of it
2016-02-27 14:35:57 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last step was in claiming send msg to you with wallet addy
2016-02-27 14:36:10 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean there was few hours that the bot was down, you got an message back when you sent me the addy?
2016-02-27 14:37:13 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remeber that if I got message back but I don't think I did
2016-02-27 14:38:12 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] could be I sent it when bot was down
2016-02-27 14:38:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] or when I sent you addy I put it as was in instruction
2016-02-27 14:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-27 14:39:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I had address in []
2016-02-27 14:40:52 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] the addy was in parenthesis
2016-02-28 18:17:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, was there a drop of DC?
2016-02-28 21:12:51 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey was there a DC drop?
2016-02-28 21:14:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] yes
2016-02-28 21:15:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I see I hope you didn't forget about me
2016-02-28 21:15:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] you told you gonna take care of this
2016-02-28 21:16:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you.done.somerhing wrong and you were lying, there.is not much i can do.
2016-02-28 21:16:30 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] me lying???
2016-02-28 21:16:41 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] in the thread
2016-02-28 21:16:49 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I haven't told a word that isn't true
2016-02-28 21:17:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] what I lied about?
2016-02-28 21:17:15 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] go resd
2016-02-28 21:17:18 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] read
2016-02-28 21:18:33 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] my first post was February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM Telling I joined darj side
2016-02-28 21:19:04 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] after I did all steps
2016-02-28 21:20:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did
2016-02-28 21:20:56 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last one was sent PM to you with wallet addy
2016-02-28 21:22:48 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't know how I can proof it but I did

END
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Well yeah, you missed the drop since you had to write the address only, the [] was what made you not get in the distribution, is your mistake, sorry. Just wait till dice is settled ill give you 5k myself.
Ps: remember that you had to write the address only without parenthesis.

Well thats explains whay you didn't get it. I didn't know address only. I did like instruction said [addy] and I put my address between parenthesis and PM'd it to you.

I did got bit carried away cus you told I lied. I followed instructions to the dot. Well parenthesis on this case. LOL

[daxxog]

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

the bumps are nice, but shit man if it will stop your bitchiing ill give you some DC. ;P
tbh, currently they are worthless so idk what the butthurt so on about ;\
buy some on  the market
its like u lost a dat file with 100btc in it haha shit

I wanted to give him his 5k from my own stash but meeh not anymore.

zazarb, address can't be wrong cus I just sign up for counterwallet and got it from there.
As it gos for msg back I don't remember if I did. Could be I didn't could be I did.

just check or you sign in "right " counterwallet(first time I sign in testnet counerwallet and also not got confirmation from bot)

In top of My Account Balance is written:

"How to Buy XCP Provided that it is legal in your jurisdiction, the easiest way to buy XCP is from one of the centralized exchanges listed here."

So I assume its right place.

Well anyhow on 24'th I asked andu (clamdu) in JD chat is my registration ok. He told me to type !dc on chat and if I get respond I'm OK.
I did type !dc on chat and got bot respond with amount of coins written in bold text.

Can't explain better then that.

If you really want to dig in the chatlogs youll see that you were claiming that you sent me your address, yes i told you you can check your balance with /msg 1275001 !dc.
You missed it, unless the votes say that distribution will continue you wont be able to claim. Sorry.

Well I don't know what els I can say or do. You could have take care it before when we chat in JD MSG's few days ago and fix it like you told you gonna do. It's obvious you don't wanna do it nor care. Pope could svear I made on time with claim but I don't think it would matter.

I don't know what or where got screwd up.

May be this couple of lines can share light on it?

21:44:20 (51) <clamdu> My dealer always ALWAYS comes lste
21:44:37 (51) <clamdu> Atleast he speaks spanish and lends the weed to me lol.

P.S Sorry to be bit harsh with this post. Readers discretion is advised.

Yeah i smoke weed, is there a problem with that?

I don't generally have problem with it I'm all for libertys but if you regret your things and I'm in other side then I might have.
Do joint or what ever you do it's between your self, your doctor and law enforcement agencies.

Here is a log in of PM's without any alteration so don't give any more BS I didn't make on time or whatever and tell I'm hm-hmm lying in forum.


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2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] !darkclam
2016-02-23 14:53:22 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:28 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 14:53:31 [ (51)  → (1213144)  ] 1) type /public; create a wallet https://counterwallet.io/; then /msg 51 [ADDY]
2016-02-23 15:03:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-24 20:04:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] (1213144) <Zipcode> !dc 1213144; unclaimed = 4902.653603 !darkclam
2016-02-24 20:04:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] unclaimed = 4902.653603
2016-02-26 15:39:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 1 week is too long
2016-02-26 15:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok lets do it private
2016-02-26 15:39:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ot had to be there aftwr 24h
2016-02-26 15:39:31 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably claimed wrong... we need to look into it
2016-02-26 15:39:40 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] how moch you had/have?
2016-02-26 15:40:38 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yesterday when it give me bold text when I put !dc in was 4900+somethig
2016-02-26 15:40:59 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then its all good
2016-02-26 15:41:07 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you should have testcoins in XCP
2016-02-26 15:41:13 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] do not trade them
2016-02-26 15:41:15 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] 4903 or 4906 something like that
2016-02-26 15:41:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] unless you went /private
2016-02-26 15:41:29 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] let me check
2016-02-26 15:41:32 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] thats the thing I don't
2016-02-26 15:41:49 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] 5036 you should have
2016-02-26 15:41:56 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] if yday was showing that then it should be good
2016-02-26 15:42:42 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you not in the list
2016-02-26 15:43:25 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] ill speak with daxx
2016-02-26 15:43:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] worst case scenario we manually add you we dhall see
2016-02-26 15:43:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 15:43:46 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] but ill just guess you didnt claimed well.
2016-02-26 15:44:00 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean i had this worry many times
2016-02-26 15:44:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did exactly what instruction told
2016-02-26 15:44:21 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] and it all resulted in people doing it wrong, yet if you were gettung the messsge then :/
2016-02-26 15:44:37 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] when you were pming me your address did it said pending?
2016-02-26 15:44:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no
2016-02-26 15:45:05 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] then you didnt claimed
2016-02-26 15:45:08 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you are public
2016-02-26 15:45:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] but not 100% sure
2016-02-26 15:45:20 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] did you do /msg 51 ADDRESS?
2016-02-26 15:45:25 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remember
2016-02-26 15:45:26 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] countetparty.io address
2016-02-26 15:45:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes
2016-02-26 15:46:04 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] have you done /private after the /public?
2016-02-26 15:46:11 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] right after I made addy
2016-02-26 15:46:24 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I have not
2016-02-26 15:47:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] just in case ill say that first you had to be public then write address but eitherway ill get you done today
2016-02-26 15:48:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] yes I made it public as first step
2016-02-26 15:50:00 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] ok thanks
2016-02-26 19:17:01 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] Do you also need me give you my dc addy here again or you find my original msg?
2016-02-27 14:32:41 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, I forgot to ask did you dot my DC address?
2016-02-27 14:32:57 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] hmm`?
2016-02-27 14:33:44 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] *got
2016-02-27 14:34:37 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I have been thinking what may be gone wrong and only 1 thing I can think up
2016-02-27 14:34:53 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i dont have your dc address
2016-02-27 14:35:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you probably missed it or nailed the bot down.
2016-02-27 14:35:22 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I did in on time I'm sure of it
2016-02-27 14:35:57 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last step was in claiming send msg to you with wallet addy
2016-02-27 14:36:10 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] i mean there was few hours that the bot was down, you got an message back when you sent me the addy?
2016-02-27 14:37:13 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't remeber that if I got message back but I don't think I did
2016-02-27 14:38:12 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] could be I sent it when bot was down
2016-02-27 14:38:47 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] or when I sent you addy I put it as was in instruction
2016-02-27 14:39:18 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] [16M5y64zQ5yticJgH318c85W9YA28G2u5g]
2016-02-27 14:39:46 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I had address in []
2016-02-27 14:40:52 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] the addy was in parenthesis
2016-02-28 18:17:31 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey, was there a drop of DC?
2016-02-28 21:12:51 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] hey was there a DC drop?
2016-02-28 21:14:33 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] yes
2016-02-28 21:15:10 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I see I hope you didn't forget about me
2016-02-28 21:15:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] you told you gonna take care of this
2016-02-28 21:16:03 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] you.done.somerhing wrong and you were lying, there.is not much i can do.
2016-02-28 21:16:30 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] me lying???
2016-02-28 21:16:41 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] in the thread
2016-02-28 21:16:49 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] no I haven't told a word that isn't true
2016-02-28 21:17:05 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] what I lied about?
2016-02-28 21:17:15 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] go resd
2016-02-28 21:17:18 [ (51) <clamdu> → (1213144) <Zipcode> ] read
2016-02-28 21:18:33 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] my first post was February 23, 2016, 03:12:03 PM Telling I joined darj side
2016-02-28 21:19:04 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] after I did all steps
2016-02-28 21:20:36 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I did
2016-02-28 21:20:56 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] last one was sent PM to you with wallet addy
2016-02-28 21:22:48 [ (1213144) <Zipcode> → (51) <clamdu> ] I don't know how I can proof it but I did

END
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Well yeah, you missed the drop since you had to write the address only, the [] was what made you not get in the distribution, is your mistake, sorry. Just wait till dice is settled ill give you 5k myself.
Ps: remember that you had to write the address only without parenthesis.

Well thats explains whay you didn't get it. I didn't know address only. I did like instruction said [addy] and I put my address between parenthesis and PM'd it to you.

I did got bit carried away cus you told I lied. I followed instructions to the dot. Well parenthesis on this case. LOL

Chill out and smoke some weed guys :p

[Mig-23]

how to get this one ,.
i'm missed

[ilidion]

Congrats with the drop daxxog. I cant wait to see the dice site and the qt. Congrats to andu as well! winchester signing out.

how to get this one ,.
i'm missed

read the first post or go to darkclam.com

[jpcfan]

think i may invest my 142,000 darkclam at the new DC dice site. hope it gors live soon

[andulolika]

Congrats with the drop daxxog. I cant wait to see the dice site and the qt. Congrats to andu as well! winchester signing out.

how to get this one ,.
i'm missed

read the first post or go to darkclam.com

welcome to da thread.

think i may invest my 142,000 darkclam at the new DC dice site. hope it gors live soon

It will also be in tigers dice, id have keept a bit more to invest in both sites.

[ilidion]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

[Makingsure]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

[ilidion]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder.

[Makingsure]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder.

o ok
me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p

[Ayers]

this will be minable at launch or after launch? what is the algo in the case it will be minable?

[jpcfan]

tiger, get your dice site online now. lol



j/k

[Makingsure]

this will be minable at launch or after launch? what is the algo in the case it will be minable?

no offense but really?
did you even read the op, this thread, and/or look at the website? ;p

[andulolika]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder.

o ok
me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p

Actually shit still got done, i think daxx is on dice stuff atm, eitherway there is few of the things that are like half way done and new ideas go to his mail nearly every day, it all takes a bit.

[jpcfan]

hope we can get some buyers n sellers on xcp exchange.

[andulolika]

hope we can get some buyers n sellers on xcp exchange.

Im personally not selling shit lol.

[jpcfan]

i''m keeping at least 100k. andu give me your counterwallet btc addy so i can send you that 100k

[andulolika]

i''m keeping at least 100k. andu give me your counterwallet btc addy so i can send you that 100k

You could find it in darkclam.com but 13juEYtQVQnu8pbH9Mxoz8qKws9EmbE1WQ

[Mig-23]

so,..this coin only available at the xcp wallet ?

sorry i still confused

[Makingsure]

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder.

o ok
me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p

Actually shit still got done, i think daxx is on dice stuff atm, eitherway there is few of the things that are like half way done and new ideas go to his mail nearly every day, it all takes a bit.

haha thx for the answer, i understand, things take time, no rush, just impatient asshats like me ;p
please pm me if you need any help testing or an extra set of hands for anything

[andulolika]

so,..this coin only available at the xcp wallet ?

sorry i still confused

Yes, for now yes.
And well its not only xcp, i have on phone indiesquare lol.

im running low on dcs already. Let me know if you need a spanish translation. hahaha

? where are you using them if i may ask? (sorry if i missed something)

I'm not using them and still feel like I'm already running low. That means its a great coin. I guess I'm just a hoarder.

o ok
me too patiently waiting, i think it will be a bit, still only have first thing on their roadmap crossed off ;p

Actually shit still got done, i think daxx is on dice stuff atm, eitherway there is few of the things that are like half way done and new ideas go to his mail nearly every day, it all takes a bit.

haha thx for the answer, i understand, things take time, no rush, just impatient asshats like me ;p
please pm me if you need any help testing or an extra set of hands for anything

Well you can speak with daxxog, if you really want to do something surely you can get with him on stuff like whenever you feel.

[jpcfan]

i''m keeping at least 100k. andu give me your counterwallet btc addy so i can send you that 100k

You could find it in darkclam.com but 13juEYtQVQnu8pbH9Mxoz8qKws9EmbE1WQ

ok i sent 100,000 darkclam to you

[daxxog]

VOTING IS NOW READY!

Official vote token:
A11025294652163217000

If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip

If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg

MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16.

[jpcfan]

i think would be great idea to have dooglus guide us. he always does whats best for the project

[Makingsure]

i think would be great idea to have dooglus guide us. he always does whats best for the project

i agree. i think that he has the tech chops and with dax and audu backing him up doing some of the lifting i believe him the best to do it
im just trying to figure out this vote system (not very familiar with xcp web platform) and my vote will go there

[mrsalve]

Andu vote for me at this time before you send me few coins.

My 2 cents tells me BURN.

[andulolika]

i think would be great idea to have dooglus guide us. he always does whats best for the project

i agree. i think that he has the tech chops and with dax and audu backing him up doing some of the lifting i believe him the best to do it
im just trying to figure out this vote system (not very familiar with xcp web platform) and my vote will go there

Im no coder lol, but i think its basically sending the testcoins (look in OP/daxx post for precise name) to one address for continuig and one for burning.

Andu vote for me at this time before you send me few coins.

My 2 cents tells me BURN.

Hmm, sure thing.

[DarkClam]

VOTING IS NOW READY!

Official vote token:
A11025294652163217000

If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip

If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg

MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16.

I think with dooglus involved, DC would probably do better. it seems like everything he touches it does good.

Anyway, So do i go on the wallet, click the Vote token, send to whichever i vote for?

[andulolika]

Updated op with what more distribution means!

[ilidion]

sooo questions here.

all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him

how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus?
and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly?

Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats

[Vaccomondus]

can this be minable after the drop or at the launch or whatever?

[Makingsure]

can this be minable after the drop or at the launch or whatever?

if a multipool choose to pay in it

no really tho, read the thread maybe LOOK at the site, you will answer your own question ;)

[Dank Frank]

VOTING IS NOW READY!

Official vote token:
A11025294652163217000

If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip

If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg

MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16.

To vote i need to deposit BTC first? Counterparty shows a message that at least BTC0.0005 is needed for the transaction. 
I wonder how many votes gets lost because of this.

[jpcfan]

when you pay a little to vote. it shows your vote is real

[bhokor]

VOTING IS NOW READY!

Official vote token:
A11025294652163217000

If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip

If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg

MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16.

To vote i need to deposit BTC first? Counterparty shows a message that at least BTC0.0005 is needed for the transaction. 
I wonder how many votes gets lost because of this.

it is the great problem with the counterparty assets, the amount required is higher thant the default 10k satoshis, it is a real pity and in my opinion unnecesary, but too everyone can get 50k satoshis for it, if someone does not vote because that 50k, well in the worst case you can do some fauceting for get it

[andulolika]

sooo questions here.

all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him

how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus?
and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly?

Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats

My idea was him to hold the funds as escrow( look at the address that did the distribution to see how many left). Im not sure what transfering control of the token means honestly.
We dont really have dooglus in the project, atleast officialy but he thrown acouple ideas in and been coperative.
It would be lovely indeed to do it in such way so its more "close" to jd.

VOTING IS NOW READY!

Official vote token:
A11025294652163217000

If you want to send all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him (for more distribution), send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip

If you want to BURN all remaining darkclams and lock the token so NO MORE CAN BE CREATED, send your vote tokens here:
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg

MAJORITY WINS, VOTING ENDS MARCH16.

To vote i need to deposit BTC first? Counterparty shows a message that at least BTC0.0005 is needed for the transaction.  
I wonder how many votes gets lost because of this.

Yeah its pretty annoying i know.

[daxxog]

sooo questions here.

all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him

how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus?
and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly?

Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats

13,153,520.94786813 or 54.03522979% will go to dooglas. "Transferring control" of the asset to doog means he can update the token information, create unlimited new tokens, or "lock" the token in to prevent more coins from being created.

I currently control the token (and don't want to), which is why we are holding this vote.

can this be minable after the drop or at the launch or whatever?

darkclam will NEVER be "mineable". However it will be "obtainable" down the road via a fair staking system.

[MRKLYE]

Well, I guess I'll finally make this information public before more people get sucked into this DarkClam bullshit.


First off, DarkClam is nothing more than an unlocked unlimited XCP asset, Meaning that the developers can essentially create more whenever.
Promises to have an actual crypto done up have been flying around, but not a single member of the darkclam team seems capable of such work.

The OP of this post (andu) deliberately deceived people initially stating DarkClam was not an XCP asset, However later it was found out to be.
I know of more than a few occurrences where JD users have been sucked in by this shit and traded BTC for these essentially worthless unlimited XCP assets...

Now wait a second...

These guys are claiming that this darkclam may have some value in the future all the while being able to create as many coins as they want..
The problem that this creates is that is it impossible to tell exactly how many DarkClam they've created from nothing.. and also how many they may claim to have distributed while stuffing them in their own pockets. Far too many points of trust failure here, and given that andu already has been caught deceiving people initially about what this "coin" really is do you honestly think that he doesn't have a hidden stash or premine set aside?

So OP (andu) already has been caught spreading mis-information about the project from the get go.. And now we are going to trust him to have not filled his own pockets with these limitless assets which are essentially IOU's for some clone coin that they *may* be creating (which, given the design of this "coin" MUST be premined in order to supply the users that claimed the XCP asset with the "actual coin")

Next comes my favourite part, The vote they have going currently for march 16th basically allows you to either vote for them to be "burned" (why would you have to burn anything if no premine as stated in thread title?) or to have them all transferred to JD owner dooglus to further distribute...

I'd like to ask dooglus why he's even risking his trust getting involved with a project that basically from the start was designed to allow the developers to create unlimited amounts of coins with no sure way of telling if they've properly distributed or burned them all. (Again, why do you need to burn coins if their is no premine as stated in thread title?). Personally dooglus if I was you I would stay as far removed from this project as possible. Why create more work for yourself while risking your reputation on something that wasn't properly thought out from the get go.

When it's proven that this was all an elaborate scheme cooked up by the developers to fuck people out of their hard earned BTC you're probably not going to want any involvement at all.


This project as it is laid out currently has far to many points of failure, Taking the developers word that the distribution was done fairly doesn't fucking fly in crypto land and given that OP has already been caught trying to deceive people about the true nature of this project I would highly advise you skip over this scam in the making and not waste your BTC or CLAM supporting a project solely intended to pad the pockets of the developers via embezzled premined assets.. Dark Clam's scam potential is undeniable and andu doesn't want you to know this info.



Don't buy into bullshit dark clam hype. Adding dark to a coins name and making an unlimited XCP asset with the promise to fairly distribute and burn is absolutely fucking absurd considering you claim no premine but the entire idea behind this cannot work without said premine.


TL:DR; Andu lied about what DarkClam was initially, has been trading unlocked XCP assets while promising users they will have value (they won't) all under the promise that it will be fairly distributed (unlikely) all while trying to drag dooglus into it to give this scam in the making credibility.




"Don't worry we'll make sure it's distributed fairly, trust us, we totally didn't make this "coin" so we could embezzle a fair chunk" -Andu's expected response.


P.S. Great idea, terrible execution. If you want your projects to be successful do not allow andu's PR anywhere near it. Any credibility this "coin" may have had is absolutely smashed now given the fact your public relations guy can't even keep his fucking story straight.

RIP DARKSCAM

[ilidion]

sooo questions here.

all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him

how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus?
and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly?

Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats

13,153,520.94786813 or 54.03522979% will go to dooglas. "Transferring control" of the asset to doog means he can update the token information, create unlimited new tokens, or "lock" the token in to prevent more coins from being created.

I currently control the token (and don't want to), which is why we are holding this vote.

Sooooo I think it is a good idea but I think we need a statement from doog on what he plans and how he plans to use dc. It makes sense if he is going to take over the project in some way. Sorry I don't want to be a hater but you cant ask me to vote without knowing exactly what Im voting for. And I guess Im not the only one who has these questions. Get doog to make a statement and Im sure everyone will be more than happy for him to take over 54 percent of the initial distribution.

[Bluewaffle]

All im saying is that your saying its so unheard of that it is just being trusted that daxxog or andu didnt premine or theres no way to prove that they dont have some set aside..well the same thing can be said about clam theres no way to prove that xploited or cc didnt load up a bunch of addresses to claim more clam its essentially the same thing but yeah not accusing Anyone just throwin my 2 cents out there on the last comment i read

[DarkClam]

All im saying is that your saying its so unheard of that it is just being trusted that daxxog or andu didnt premine or theres no way to prove that they dont have some set aside..well the same thing can be said about clam theres no way to prove that xploited or cc didnt load up a bunch of addresses to claim more clam its essentially the same thing but yeah not accusing Anyone just throwin my 2 cents out there on the last comment i read

I personally think, that several people had the "inside" scoop on clam and how it was going to be givin out. And people got a shit ton of btc address to get a massive load of coin.

My opinion doesn't matter anyway, but just my 2cents

[MRKLYE]

And now we have andu uttering death threats to me on JD...

13:46:02 (51) <clamdu> Klyemax gonna be klyeless lol

Seems a very professional approach to dealing with whistle blowers eh? Suggest you'll kill them. /sarcasm

Rather than acting like a child whom's birthday was taken I'd highly suggest you perhaps work on a trustless version of this project, because as it sits right now I'm going to advise everyone against even bothering with this fucking garbage cash grab you've dreamed up to fuck JD users.

Just a reminder that this (andu) obviously level headed and extremely pleasant individual has access to the supposedly non-existant DarkScam premine and will distribute it fairly to you all, and then burn the rest... Of course once he's done threatening to kill me.

[CjMapope]

hmmm, ya see my problem was initial distribution
my gripe was seeing hardcore gamblers own literally 500k DC , while many on the list had 100-500

"distributed MOSTLY to the largest gamblers"
seems legit ;p
just that alone for me is no way to make a coin, as to me, EVERYONE should get fair shakes at coins (original btc-qt had setgenerate)
but idk, see what happens ;p

[MRKLYE]

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

[Makingsure]

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

"I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties."

say whaaaa?     there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them)
tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays

[Bluewaffle]

how is that a scam when there are plenty of coins being bought as an asset  like iota peoplle have spent 100s of btc on the iota asset so idk what your whole trip is just cause you and andu bumped heads on jd doesnt mean you need to try n bash on something just cause of a personal issue

[MRKLYE]

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

"I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties."

say whaaaa?     there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them)
tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays

Andu was the one pushing this DarkScam garbage in JD. I hold him personally responsible for any BTC lost in trades among users.
Had he not been hyping this trash up and spamming it all over users would not have perceived it to be valuable nor would have they spent BTC on it.

Given that info, I urge that no one even bother with this "coin" nor trade it until concerns in above posts have been addressed and fixed.

- Get rich they said, real value they said... All while stuffing their pockets with them and fucking people out of BTC for a worthless token.

[andulolika]

Well, I guess I'll finally make this information public before more people get sucked into this DarkClam bullshit.


First off, DarkClam is nothing more than an unlocked unlimited XCP asset, Meaning that the developers can essentially create more whenever.
Promises to have an actual crypto done up have been flying around, but not a single member of the darkclam team seems capable of such work.

The OP of this post (andu) deliberately deceived people initially stating DarkClam was not an XCP asset, However later it was found out to be.
I know of more than a few occurrences where JD users have been sucked in by this shit and traded BTC for these essentially worthless unlimited XCP assets...

Now wait a second...

These guys are claiming that this darkclam may have some value in the future all the while being able to create as many coins as they want..
The problem that this creates is that is it impossible to tell exactly how many DarkClam they've created from nothing.. and also how many they may claim to have distributed while stuffing them in their own pockets. Far too many points of trust failure here, and given that andu already has been caught deceiving people initially about what this "coin" really is do you honestly think that he doesn't have a hidden stash or premine set aside?

So OP (andu) already has been caught spreading mis-information about the project from the get go.. And now we are going to trust him to have not filled his own pockets with these limitless assets which are essentially IOU's for some clone coin that they *may* be creating (which, given the design of this "coin" MUST be premined in order to supply the users that claimed the XCP asset with the "actual coin")

Next comes my favourite part, The vote they have going currently for march 16th basically allows you to either vote for them to be "burned" (why would you have to burn anything if no premine as stated in thread title?) or to have them all transferred to JD owner dooglus to further distribute...

I'd like to ask dooglus why he's even risking his trust getting involved with a project that basically from the start was designed to allow the developers to create unlimited amounts of coins with no sure way of telling if they've properly distributed or burned them all. (Again, why do you need to burn coins if their is no premine as stated in thread title?). Personally dooglus if I was you I would stay as far removed from this project as possible. Why create more work for yourself while risking your reputation on something that wasn't properly thought out from the get go.

When it's proven that this was all an elaborate scheme cooked up by the developers to fuck people out of their hard earned BTC you're probably not going to want any involvement at all.


This project as it is laid out currently has far to many points of failure, Taking the developers word that the distribution was done fairly doesn't fucking fly in crypto land and given that OP has already been caught trying to deceive people about the true nature of this project I would highly advise you skip over this scam in the making and not waste your BTC or CLAM supporting a project solely intended to pad the pockets of the developers via embezzled premined assets.. Dark Clam's scam potential is undeniable and andu doesn't want you to know this info.



Don't buy into bullshit dark clam hype. Adding dark to a coins name and making an unlimited XCP asset with the promise to fairly distribute and burn is absolutely fucking absurd considering you claim no premine but the entire idea behind this cannot work without said premine.


TL:DR; Andu lied about what DarkClam was initially, has been trading unlocked XCP assets while promising users they will have value (they won't) all under the promise that it will be fairly distributed (unlikely) all while trying to drag dooglus into it to give this scam in the making credibility.




"Don't worry we'll make sure it's distributed fairly, trust us, we totally didn't make this "coin" so we could embezzle a fair chunk" -Andu's expected response.


P.S. Great idea, terrible execution. If you want your projects to be successful do not allow andu's PR anywhere near it. Any credibility this "coin" may have had is absolutely smashed now given the fact your public relations guy can't even keep his fucking story straight.

RIP DARKSCAM

Its never been hidden that we didnt locked the asset yet its completly public. You were claiming i was saying darkclam is not an XCP asset, yes i did say that, when darkclam wasnt even an asset yet. I didnt wanted XCP at the beginning but i decided at the end that it may be better to properly develop the coin yet give people time to claim.

No single member of the darkclam dev team? lol the "dev team" is made by daxxog, and the hard part of the coin (The VM) is expected to be done with cooperation of the CLAM dev team.

You are claiming shit that you cannot know for sure how many coins we created? I think you should have another look at counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM .

You dont have to burn anything, your coins are your coins, but as if you check the upper link you would see that there all the darkclams were issued (a bit over 24m) while the 11.09m(about) that users claimed the rest is held by daxxog, what we want to do is use dooglus as escrow (i believe he has an escrow thread,not sure id ask him on the jd chat eitherway.) to hold the leftover (currently held by daxxog which doesnt want to hold them).

As you publicly announced in jd chat you didnt bothered to read any of the thread or the site yet you are coming with hard accusations against me and the coin(asset). If you looked a bit over we cannot cheat the system unless dooglus modified the wager himself, the leftover is going doog or burn the 16th march.

I dared you to do this for the only reason that you been an asshole, and you proving yourself right now, all those claims without even a bit of research.

sooo questions here.

all remaining darkclams to DOOGLUS and TRANSFER CONTROL of the token to him

how many remaining dcs would be going to dooglus?
and what does transfer control of the token mean exactly?

Don't get me wrong I am all for having doog in our fun project. I think he is honest and a great asset to the coin. But I think a more thorough explanation would help others with their vote. I like to be an informed voter. But congrats on getting doog into dcs. Really nice move. Now if we can get some type of partnership with his dice site we could really grow this project. Congrats

13,153,520.94786813 or 54.03522979% will go to dooglas. "Transferring control" of the asset to doog means he can update the token information, create unlimited new tokens, or "lock" the token in to prevent more coins from being created.

I currently control the token (and don't want to), which is why we are holding this vote.

Sooooo I think it is a good idea but I think we need a statement from doog on what he plans and how he plans to use dc. It makes sense if he is going to take over the project in some way. Sorry I don't want to be a hater but you cant ask me to vote without knowing exactly what Im voting for. And I guess Im not the only one who has these questions. Get doog to make a statement and Im sure everyone will be more than happy for him to take over 54 percent of the initial distribution.

The point wouldnt be him taking anything off the distribution, he would just be escrowing the funds.

And now we have andu uttering death threats to me on JD...

13:46:02 (51) <clamdu> Klyemax gonna be klyeless lol

Seems a very professional approach to dealing with whistle blowers eh? Suggest you'll kill them. /sarcasm

Rather than acting like a child whom's birthday was taken I'd highly suggest you perhaps work on a trustless version of this project, because as it sits right now I'm going to advise everyone against even bothering with this fucking garbage cash grab you've dreamed up to fuck JD users.

Just a reminder that this (andu) obviously level headed and extremely pleasant individual has access to the supposedly non-existant DarkScam premine and will distribute it fairly to you all, and then burn the rest... Of course once he's done threatening to kill me.

Hmpf , you took your time to write all that, i had nothing in mind about killing you, you may give yourself a bit too much of importance, i guess we all do.
Btw start apporting fundament to your accusations, i know you trust already sucks but yeah. Also i think its funny how you loved clam when you were making mugs and now all you do is saying how you dont see a bright future for it anymore.

hmmm, ya see my problem was initial distribution
my gripe was seeing hardcore gamblers own literally 500k DC , while many on the list had 100-500

"distributed MOSTLY to the largest gamblers"
seems legit ;p
just that alone for me is no way to make a coin, as to me, EVERYONE should get fair shakes at coins (original btc-qt had setgenerate)
but idk, see what happens ;p

EVERYONE would mean many many multi accounters, if you really have a better idea propose it, or make it .

[Bluewaffle]

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

"I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties."

say whaaaa?     there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them)
tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays

lol get your facts straight jpcfan has like 300k there are probably only 1 or 2 people with a million

[andulolika]

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

"I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties."

say whaaaa?     there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them)
tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays

Andu was the one pushing this DarkScam garbage in JD. I hold him personally responsible for any BTC lost in trades among users.
Had he not been hyping this trash up and spamming it all over users would not have perceived it to be valuable nor would have they spent BTC on it.

Given that info, I urge that no one even bother with this "coin" nor trade it until concerns in above posts have been addressed and fixed.

- Get rich they said, real value they said... All while stuffing their pockets with them and fucking people out of BTC for a worthless token.

Oh you using BB style

[MRKLYE]

how is that a scam when there are plenty of coins being bought as an asset  like iota peoplle have spent 100s of btc on the iota asset so idk what your whole trip is just cause you and andu bumped heads on jd doesnt mean you need to try n bash on something just cause of a personal issue

This isn't a personal issue, I don't really have a problem with andu besides the fact he is being dishonest in his given info initially on DarkScam.

But now this shit is starting to cost people money.. and personally if this isn't a scam I'd like to see any trades been done refunded and the trust issues in the distribution fixed before this shit goes on any further. As it sits I'm calling this a poorly thought out plan at worst or a shit scam at best.

[andulolika]

how is that a scam when there are plenty of coins being bought as an asset  like iota peoplle have spent 100s of btc on the iota asset so idk what your whole trip is just cause you and andu bumped heads on jd doesnt mean you need to try n bash on something just cause of a personal issue

This isn't a personal issue, I don't really have a problem with andu besides the fact he is being dishonest in his given info initially on DarkScam.

But now this shit is starting to cost people money.. and personally if this isn't a scam I'd like to see any trades been done refunded and the trust issues in the distribution fixed before this shit goes on any further. As it sits I'm calling this a poorly thought out plan at worst or a shit scam at best.

You dont have proof for ANYTHING because i have done anything, i been as transparent as possible and it is transparent if you bother to look, all you do is fud and spam.

[Bluewaffle]

idk i have no trust issues with the distribution tbh i trust daxxog so idk maybe everyone just has different views on the whole thing

[andulolika]

idk i have no trust issues with the distribution tbh i trust daxxog so idk maybe everyone just has different views on the whole thing

I was wondering what he can do, his threat was spam and fud, i believe those things are good, it just shows they bother.
Edit: @klye This makes me remember that you threatened me first , but i didnt really threatened you.

[MRKLYE]

Andu, none of your long winded replies mean shit.

A) You cannot be trusted to distribute anything, period.
B) Information was hidden or withheld in order to save face.
C) It is impossible to tell how many have been pocketed by you and daxxog.
D) You are dragging dooglus into this bullshit to give it credibility.
E) Inability to maintain professional appearance under criticism.


Lets get the facts straight here. You have a unlocked/unlimited XCP asset and you are tricking / manipulating people into believing they will have value in order to steal BTC from JD users. That isn't speculation, that isn't me trying to bully you. That is exactly what is happening and given the fact that we have no way of knowing that the distribution was fair or not I'm calling this shit a scam and you should really reconsider what you are doing.

Make sure those who were unfortunate enough to trade real money for this bullshit broken "coin" are paid back.. DarkScam should not be traded in its current state nor should you be claiming you have no premine when the entire fucking thing is premined..

[andulolika]

Andu, none of your long winded replies mean shit.

A) You cannot be trusted to distribute anything, period.
B) Information was hidden or withheld in order to save face.
C) It is impossible to tell how many have been pocketed by you and daxxog.
D) You are dragging dooglus into this bullshit to give it credibility.
E) Inability to maintain professional appearance under criticism.


Lets get the facts straight here. You have a unlocked/unlimited XCP asset and you are tricking / manipulating people into believing they will have value in order to steal BTC from JD users. That isn't speculation, that isn't me trying to bully you. That is exactly what is happening and given the fact that we have no way of knowing that the distribution was fair or not I'm calling this shit a scam and you should really reconsider what you are doing.

Make sure those who were unfortunate enough to trade real money for this bullshit broken "coin" are paid back.. DarkScam should not be traded in its current state nor should you be claiming you have no premine when the entire fucking thing is premined..

What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

[MRKLYE]

What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

Perhaps you need to have a look at what the title of this thread says, Claiming no premine and then stating to have left overs for future claiming are contradictory and further hurt the credibility of this.. While we can see that coins have been moved we have no way of ensuring what coins were supposed to go where..

A2) Perhaps not, But you are still hyping a severely flawed "coin". (it was my understanding you were from what I was told)
B2) I asked you before about where the XCP asset was located. You told me to fuck off.
C2) How? You tell me. I'm 99% sure no one is going to take the time to audit the entire distribution, Which is what you are counting on.
D2) You're blatantly trying to borrow doog's trusted status to give credibility to an otherwise completely flawwed distro method.
E2) Perhaps then instead of threatening to kill me take my advice and pointers, I like the idea of DC but as it sits it's COMPLETELY fucked and hyping it up and inferring to people that it may hold value in the future while you can freely create them on promise to properly distribute / burn them could be misconstrued as very scammy given the fact that you've claimed no premine yet have 13 Million or something of them sitting there...

So far you told me about cloverme and CBIindex's trade for DC and BTC which costed cloverme 0.5 BTC.

Can you think of anyone else of the top of your head?



Contrary to popular belief I'm not witch hunting you or on an anti darkclam crusade, I am honestly concerned at the lack of thought and the points of failure the current chosen distribution method holds. It's already costed one user a fair sum of BTC already.. I'm trying to prevent more needless loss on something that really shouldn't be traded until done properly via coding instead of asset creation and "scouts honor".

[DarkClam]

Well if anyone would like to buy some DC, im selling at 0.0001btc

[andulolika]

What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

Perhaps you need to have a look at what the title of this thread says, Claiming no premine and then stating to have left overs for future claiming are contradictory and further hurt the credibility of this.. While we can see that coins have been moved we have no way of ensuring what coins were supposed to go where..

A2) Perhaps not, But you are still hyping a severely flawed "coin". (it was my understanding you were from what I was told)
B2) I asked you before about where the XCP asset was located. You told me to fuck off.
C2) How? You tell me. I'm 99% sure no one is going to take the time to audit the entire distribution, Which is what you are counting on.
D2) You're blatantly trying to borrow doog's trusted status to give credibility to an otherwise completely flawwed distro method.
E2) Perhaps then instead of threatening to kill me take my advice and pointers, I like the idea of DC but as it sits it's COMPLETELY fucked and hyping it up and inferring to people that it may hold value in the future while you can freely create them on promise to properly distribute / burn them could be misconstrued as very scammy given the fact that you've claimed no premine yet have 13 Million or something of them sitting there...

So far you told me about cloverme and CBIindex's trade for DC and BTC which costed cloverme 0.5 BTC.

Can you think of anyone else of the top of your head?



Contrary to popular belief I'm not witch hunting you or on an anti darkclam crusade, I am honestly concerned at the lack of thought and the points of failure the current chosen distribution method holds. It's already costed one user a fair sum of BTC already.. I'm trying to prevent more needless loss on something that really shouldn't be traded until done properly via coding instead of asset creation and "scouts honor".

Seems that cloverme bought from someone else, so cbi sold to someone else. Eitherway if you check darkclam.com you would find this:
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the future is only a transaction away.

You can also find the bootstrap

I never told you to fuck off, i told oyu the answer many times till i got tired of you, as i said before you admited and i guess you still admit that you dont bother to research, fud first questions later?

The bot that checks the distribution is open sourced i think.

[cloverme]

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

[MRKLYE]

Thank you for the transaction list andu. Will look at it shortly.

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

I'm just going off what I've been told clover and in all honesty I was just trying to ensure you hadn't pissed away half a BTC on what is essentially an IOU for an undeveloped coin that can be printed in infinite amount at the moment.

Starting a topic in scam accusations is redundant, as people reading this thread need to be informed as to what they are actually getting into and that these can be created at any time under the promise that they will be distributed or burnt. This in my opinion is extremely risky to anyone planning to hold or trade the coins as at any given time if a market order was put up they would be able to create more darkclam and dump them onto the market.



All this aside, I would like to hear andu out and see if he has any proposal to limit 3rd party liabilities on this project. Going off of scouts honor seems a little risky or calculated and involving doog as escrow could be misconstrued as attempting to piggy back off his trust. I believe these are valid concerns and I invite any other users to voice their concerns about this project as well.

DarkClam may have potential, But in it's current state their is far to much trust being placed on the developers to not print and pocket themselves a mountain of DC IOU's before the actual coin comes out... Even if you announced a 1% or 0.5% premine and were open about it I'm sure it would help alleviate some concerns others have. No one develops coins for free, and the only reason shitcoins exist is to take money out of peoples pockets and put it into yours.

[jpcfan]

i like the fonz....









for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!

[andulolika]

i like the fonz....









for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!

This is prolly not the place to speak about it, but not sure if id like offsite. Eitherway there is another site that will accept DC too.

[Bluewaffle]

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

"The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters. " god that has me cracking up right now

[Bluewaffle]

i like the fonz....








for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!

lol .02

[ilidion]

DC drama

[jpcfan]

when i offsite max at darkclam dice my 147,000 dark clam will turn into 1 million darkclam fast.


i will have blue betting there

[andulolika]

when i offsite max at darkclam dice my 147,000 dark clam will turn into 1 million darkclam fast.


i will have blue betting there

People was bitching cuz the way of the distribution, i see no fairer way to do it, its tecnically impossible to cheat this way. Besides most of us lost a lot hence i think this is a good chance flr ourselves to redeem ourselves lol.

[daxxog]

Well, I guess I'll finally make this information public before more people get sucked into this DarkClam bullshit.


First off, DarkClam is nothing more than an unlocked unlimited XCP asset, Meaning that the developers can essentially create more whenever.
Promises to have an actual crypto done up have been flying around, but not a single member of the darkclam team seems capable of such work.

The OP of this post (andu) deliberately deceived people initially stating DarkClam was not an XCP asset, However later it was found out to be.
I know of more than a few occurrences where JD users have been sucked in by this shit and traded BTC for these essentially worthless unlimited XCP assets...

Now wait a second...

These guys are claiming that this darkclam may have some value in the future all the while being able to create as many coins as they want..
The problem that this creates is that is it impossible to tell exactly how many DarkClam they've created from nothing.. and also how many they may claim to have distributed while stuffing them in their own pockets. Far too many points of trust failure here, and given that andu already has been caught deceiving people initially about what this "coin" really is do you honestly think that he doesn't have a hidden stash or premine set aside?

So OP (andu) already has been caught spreading mis-information about the project from the get go.. And now we are going to trust him to have not filled his own pockets with these limitless assets which are essentially IOU's for some clone coin that they *may* be creating (which, given the design of this "coin" MUST be premined in order to supply the users that claimed the XCP asset with the "actual coin")

Next comes my favourite part, The vote they have going currently for march 16th basically allows you to either vote for them to be "burned" (why would you have to burn anything if no premine as stated in thread title?) or to have them all transferred to JD owner dooglus to further distribute...

I'd like to ask dooglus why he's even risking his trust getting involved with a project that basically from the start was designed to allow the developers to create unlimited amounts of coins with no sure way of telling if they've properly distributed or burned them all. (Again, why do you need to burn coins if their is no premine as stated in thread title?). Personally dooglus if I was you I would stay as far removed from this project as possible. Why create more work for yourself while risking your reputation on something that wasn't properly thought out from the get go.

When it's proven that this was all an elaborate scheme cooked up by the developers to fuck people out of their hard earned BTC you're probably not going to want any involvement at all.


This project as it is laid out currently has far to many points of failure, Taking the developers word that the distribution was done fairly doesn't fucking fly in crypto land and given that OP has already been caught trying to deceive people about the true nature of this project I would highly advise you skip over this scam in the making and not waste your BTC or CLAM supporting a project solely intended to pad the pockets of the developers via embezzled premined assets.. Dark Clam's scam potential is undeniable and andu doesn't want you to know this info.



Don't buy into bullshit dark clam hype. Adding dark to a coins name and making an unlimited XCP asset with the promise to fairly distribute and burn is absolutely fucking absurd considering you claim no premine but the entire idea behind this cannot work without said premine.


TL:DR; Andu lied about what DarkClam was initially, has been trading unlocked XCP assets while promising users they will have value (they won't) all under the promise that it will be fairly distributed (unlikely) all while trying to drag dooglus into it to give this scam in the making credibility.




"Don't worry we'll make sure it's distributed fairly, trust us, we totally didn't make this "coin" so we could embezzle a fair chunk" -Andu's expected response.


P.S. Great idea, terrible execution. If you want your projects to be successful do not allow andu's PR anywhere near it. Any credibility this "coin" may have had is absolutely smashed now given the fact your public relations guy can't even keep his fucking story straight.

RIP DARKSCAM

I would burn the remaining darkclam supply right now. But, we also have the option to just give the remaining DC to doog (and control of the coin). So why not let the users decide the fate of this coin?

[andulolika]

Thank you for the transaction list andu. Will look at it shortly.

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

I'm just going off what I've been told clover and in all honesty I was just trying to ensure you hadn't pissed away half a BTC on what is essentially an IOU for an undeveloped coin that can be printed in infinite amount at the moment.

Starting a topic in scam accusations is redundant, as people reading this thread need to be informed as to what they are actually getting into and that these can be created at any time under the promise that they will be distributed or burnt. This in my opinion is extremely risky to anyone planning to hold or trade the coins as at any given time if a market order was put up they would be able to create more darkclam and dump them onto the market.



All this aside, I would like to hear andu out and see if he has any proposal to limit 3rd party liabilities on this project. Going off of scouts honor seems a little risky or calculated and involving doog as escrow could be misconstrued as attempting to piggy back off his trust. I believe these are valid concerns and I invite any other users to voice their concerns about this project as well.

DarkClam may have potential, But in it's current state their is far to much trust being placed on the developers to not print and pocket themselves a mountain of DC IOU's before the actual coin comes out... Even if you announced a 1% or 0.5% premine and were open about it I'm sure it would help alleviate some concerns others have. No one develops coins for free, and the only reason shitcoins exist is to take money out of peoples pockets and put it into yours.

I like to spend time in front of a screen more than anything else, we dont want premine the distribution is public, all the trust on us is as long as we hold the leftover, and that will end in about two weeks, daxxog is not really developing for free, he is making my dice and he doesnt pay commission, besides we have few more projects on the way.
3rd party liabilities? Daxxog wanted to just burn it, and doog thrown the idea of continuing the distribution so we can have a fixed supply (check early posts), so i proposed using doog as escrow.
I dont have time atm to write a full answer but i will edit later, i didnt saw this reply of yours till now.
Edit: I actually had speaked with daxxog about this, what if instead of us taking a premine dooglus takes like 1% of the leftover as small reward for escrowing, or whatever we do.

[DarkClam]

Anyway you can just make a VOTE poll thread?

I'm not going to be voting from counterparty, mostly because it's confusing, and also they charge you btc to do anything.

Andu - Message me, i'd be happy to be part of the team.

Also, I'd vote for the dooglus idea.

[ilidion]

there has to be a free way for all of us to vote. I agree

[andulolika]

there has to be a free way for all of us to vote. I agree

Its the easier way, im not making a poll here, or any user could vote. Im thinking about sending the fee to everyone.

[andulolika]

Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

[DarkClam]

Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it

[andulolika]

Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it

Not really a big mess, i mean its easy to see which adresses voted, and i dont think everyone will vote, besides is a small amount if i take it that way, lets say 200 claimers, .0002 each its like .04, i think its worth as long as people stop finding excuses.

[DarkClam]

Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it

Not really a big mess, i mean its easy to see which adresses voted, and i dont think everyone will vote, besides is a small amount if i take it that way, lets say 200 claimers, .0002 each its like .04, i think its worth as long as people stop finding excuses.

its 0.0005btc to vote.

[andulolika]

Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it

Not really a big mess, i mean its easy to see which adresses voted, and i dont think everyone will vote, besides is a small amount if i take it that way, lets say 200 claimers, .0002 each its like .04, i think its worth as long as people stop finding excuses.

its 0.0005btc to vote.

A bit more than i expected, yet i still dont believe the whole 211 holders will vote, i wont retract.

Edit: i just saw what you were saying DarkClam. No, everyone that claimed and wants it will get refunded the fee just that wont be refunded till we finish voting.

[andulolika]

Only 10 votes till now, 5 for burn 5 for continuing. The voting rate is way smaller than the claiming one, comeon guys youll regret later not caring.

[Dank Frank]

Only 10 votes till now, 5 for burn 5 for continuing. The voting rate is way smaller than the claiming one, comeon guys youll regret later not caring.

I voted
Maybe you can ask if the btct link can be added to the header of just-dice?

[andulolika]

Only 10 votes till now, 5 for burn 5 for continuing. The voting rate is way smaller than the claiming one, comeon guys youll regret later not caring.

I voted
Maybe you can ask if the btct link can be added to the header of just-dice?

I guess i could get the ad up but the thread and most info can be accesed trough darkclam.com, most of jd users know about DC. Eitherway we will eventually make the ad again i guess.

[andulolika]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

[CjMapope]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

[daxxog]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

[andulolika]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

[daxxog]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

[andulolika]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

the 3 biggest whales would just vote to burn and it would end up in a burn whatever the other 98% want. Besides there is not many reasons someone would use many xcp wallets for several reasons. Think avout the high number of indonesians with low wager, shouldnt they have a vote? Hell lets put this under vote too LOL

[Dank Frank]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

the 3 biggest whales would just vote to burn and it would end up in a burn whatever the other 98% want. Besides there is not many reasons someone would use many xcp wallets for several reasons. Think avout the high number of indonesians with low wager, shouldnt they have a vote? Hell lets put this under vote too LOL

I agree, you already see on the burn vote that some people with major amounts voted to burn, 5 votes for giving it to doog and 5 to burn a difference of 21% in tokens.

So if itś based on the amount of tokens, you could burn them already and move on to the next step.

Just my opinion...

[andulolika]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

the 3 biggest whales would just vote to burn and it would end up in a burn whatever the other 98% want. Besides there is not many reasons someone would use many xcp wallets for several reasons. Think avout the high number of indonesians with low wager, shouldnt they have a vote? Hell lets put this under vote too LOL

I agree, you already see on the burn vote that some people with major amounts voted to burn, 5 votes for giving it to doog and 5 to burn a difference of 21% in tokens.

So if itś based on the amount of tokens, you could burn them already and move on to the next step.

Just my opinion...

Yeah small players got no chance since clearly big holders wont want more distribution (even myself but i abstain from voting). Actually even if it was a joke while working i thinked that we could put that under vote here in the thread, we will sort this out by tonight.

[DarkClam]

We need to get this on to the next step. I'm down to help all i can. I've been with DC since day 1.

[andulolika]

We need to get this on to the next step. I'm down to help all i can. I've been with DC since day 1.

ill be home in about an hour and a half max two, the problem is that everything id about point of views and everyone is right at the same time.

[daxxog]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

the 3 biggest whales would just vote to burn and it would end up in a burn whatever the other 98% want. Besides there is not many reasons someone would use many xcp wallets for several reasons. Think avout the high number of indonesians with low wager, shouldnt they have a vote? Hell lets put this under vote too LOL

I agree, you already see on the burn vote that some people with major amounts voted to burn, 5 votes for giving it to doog and 5 to burn a difference of 21% in tokens.

So if itś based on the amount of tokens, you could burn them already and move on to the next step.

Just my opinion...

Yeah small players got no chance since clearly big holders wont want more distribution (even myself but i abstain from voting). Actually even if it was a joke while working i thinked that we could put that under vote here in the thread, we will sort this out by tonight.

Proportional to stake in the currency (see clamour for a similar system) is the only fair way. What about people that have spent real BTC on this currency? If someone didn't risk much to obtain dc, their vote should be weighted accordingly. Also there is no way of telling that someone didn't make a bunch of random addresses / accounts before the drop. Voting on bitcointalk is pointless, because people who don't even have any stake in this currency can vote (same problem).

[andulolika]

Heh, 5 claimers with  6,538. DC  has same voice as 5 with 2,512,788. Wager, there is no fairness there cjmapope?

hee hee
honestly it was just my own opinion that basically rewarding those who have gambled the most was unfair
in the end it's your coin, but in the end it's also my choice to not advocate  gambling and/or being rewarded for gambling
i will still support how i can, but only so much as my conscience allows ;p

But i do see that they hold the same weight voting wise, and i do like seeing that
(which was your initial point, but atlas my basic understanding of counterparty voting mislead me ;p)
try not be so wound up, i know it's hard with people not shitting straight rainbows on this idea, but it will be ok ;;)))

To be clear, voting is based on token amounts not number of transactions. If this system was based on number of transactions, someone could send 1 vote token to a million addresses and sabotage the vote.

as of block 401489:
1DARKCLAMxDooGXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZPbYip has 0.05843282% of the vote with 6,538.03037584 tokens.
1DARKCLAMxBURNXXXXXXXXXXXXXXVvbpkg has 22.45772632% of the vote with 2,512,788.27224520 tokens.

Well i dont agree with that, it should be with jnique address voting and counting only the ones that got the initial distribution.

Such a system wouldn't be fair given each person could have created as many addresses as they wanted before the drop. So one person could end up voting more than once, skewing the results. Voting proportional to distribution (and by definition, personal risk taken on) is the only fair way to vote.

the 3 biggest whales would just vote to burn and it would end up in a burn whatever the other 98% want. Besides there is not many reasons someone would use many xcp wallets for several reasons. Think avout the high number of indonesians with low wager, shouldnt they have a vote? Hell lets put this under vote too LOL

I agree, you already see on the burn vote that some people with major amounts voted to burn, 5 votes for giving it to doog and 5 to burn a difference of 21% in tokens.

So if itś based on the amount of tokens, you could burn them already and move on to the next step.

Just my opinion...

Yeah small players got no chance since clearly big holders wont want more distribution (even myself but i abstain from voting). Actually even if it was a joke while working i thinked that we could put that under vote here in the thread, we will sort this out by tonight.

Proportional to stake in the currency (see clamour for a similar system) is the only fair way. What about people that have spent real BTC on this currency? If someone didn't risk much to obtain dc, their vote should be weighted accordingly. Also there is no way of telling that someone didn't make a bunch of random addresses / accounts before the drop. Voting on bitcointalk is pointless, because people who don't even have any stake in this currency can vote (same problem).

yep you prolly right, besides the amount of butthurt and spam in anything that can leave a message was enough to not dig more on the subject.
Ps: how the hell i eliminate the pool?

[andulolika]

You guys can check the evolution of the project here: https://github.com/daxxog , feel free to contribute.

[doothewop]

I can't get voting to work.  I put in the address, I put in the amount, and nothing happens.

[Dank Frank]

I can't get voting to work.  I put in the address, I put in the amount, and nothing happens.

Do you have enough btc on the address?

[doothewop]

I can't get voting to work.  I put in the address, I put in the amount, and nothing happens.

Do you have enough btc on the address?

I do, yes.

[andulolika]

I can't get voting to work.  I put in the address, I put in the amount, and nothing happens.

Do you have enough btc on the address?

I do, yes.

if you have enough btc on your address and are sending the right asset to the right address there should be no problem, ill say that i heard and by personal experience that the android wallet kinda sucks, it may be your case too. Just to be sure, you are sending A11025294652163217000 to 1doog or 1burn?

[doothewop]

if you have enough btc on your address and are sending the right asset to the right address there should be no problem, ill say that i heard and by personal experience that the android wallet kinda sucks, it may be your case too. Just to be sure, you are sending A11025294652163217000 to 1doog or 1burn?

I'm not using the android wallet.  Sending A110025294652163217000 to 1doog.  I plug in the address and the amount, click 'send' and the window just goes away, and nothing happens.

[andulolika]

if you have enough btc on your address and are sending the right asset to the right address there should be no problem, ill say that i heard and by personal experience that the android wallet kinda sucks, it may be your case too. Just to be sure, you are sending A11025294652163217000 to 1doog or 1burn?

I'm not using the android wallet.  Sending A110025294652163217000 to 1doog.  I plug in the address and the amount, click 'send' and the window just goes away, and nothing happens.

well.. i guess you should contact xcp support.

[Makingsure]

what a headless shit storm this is
by the time dc happens and theres movement this will be so fogotten about lol
i dont think anyone knows what or when their doing
please lets just vote to give this to doog, otherwise i feel another month of hee hawing ;p
that list you made in which only "drop" is crossed off has been that way since the testdrop 2 weeks ago ;p
shit or get off the pot omg

[DarkClam]

what a headless shit storm this is
by the time dc happens and theres movement this will be so fogotten about lol
i dont think anyone knows what or when their doing
please lets just vote to give this to doog, otherwise i feel another month of hee hawing ;p
that list you made in which only "drop" is crossed off has been that way since the testdrop 2 weeks ago ;p
shit or get off the pot omg

Agree 1000%

Just give them to dooglus, make the wallet and and shit so it' can MAYBE get listed on an exchange somewhere.

Ive sent a few exchanges requests for dark, however, i''m sure they wont even consider it without it being done first.

[yubit]

I did not understand nothing!
Help please!
Just now in "My Account Balances" of https://wallet.counterwallet.io I have 4 balances:
1) 0.0XXXXX BTC
2) XX.XX A11............00
3) XX.XX A19............00
4) XX.XX DARKCLAM

What I must to do?

[jpcfan]

hipe things are working out andu. im here for the long run

[andulolika]

what a headless shit storm this is
by the time dc happens and theres movement this will be so fogotten about lol
i dont think anyone knows what or when their doing
please lets just vote to give this to doog, otherwise i feel another month of hee hawing ;p
that list you made in which only "drop" is crossed off has been that way since the testdrop 2 weeks ago ;p
shit or get off the pot omg

Daxxog is really busy this week, and the last week he done a lot of stuff, i updated the thread tough.

what a headless shit storm this is
by the time dc happens and theres movement this will be so fogotten about lol
i dont think anyone knows what or when their doing
please lets just vote to give this to doog, otherwise i feel another month of hee hawing ;p
that list you made in which only "drop" is crossed off has been that way since the testdrop 2 weeks ago ;p
shit or get off the pot omg

Agree 1000%

Just give them to dooglus, make the wallet and and shit so it' can MAYBE get listed on an exchange somewhere.

Ive sent a few exchanges requests for dark, however, i''m sure they wont even consider it without it being done first.

On bittrex is added on the list yet that doesnt make it sure it will be added, bleutrade should be an easy shot and good exchsnge in my opinion, i personally wont contact yobit but if they add us good. Also we will have our own exchange.

I did not understand nothing!
Help please!
Just now in "My Account Balances" of https://wallet.counterwallet.io I have 4 balances:
1) 0.0XXXXX BTC
2) XX.XX A11............00
3) XX.XX A19............00
4) XX.XX DARKCLAM

What I must to do?

A11 should be your vote token a19 the testdrop (worth nothing) and darkclam are your dark clams.

hipe things are working out andu. im here for the long run

Hype was huge specially on jd, i wonder how it will adapt to people from outside.

[yubit]

Quote from: yubit on Today at 12:51:21 PM
I did not understand nothing!
Help please!
Just now in "My Account Balances" of https://wallet.counterwallet.io I have 4 balances:
1) 0.0XXXXX BTC
2) XX.XX A11............00
3) XX.XX A19............00
4) XX.XX DARKCLAM

What I must to do?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
andulolika A11 should be your vote token a19 the testdrop (worth nothing) and darkclam are your dark clams.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I must send A11...... to Daxxog to recive more darkclams??? 

[andulolika]

Quote from: yubit on Today at 12:51:21 PM
I did not understand nothing!
Help please!
Just now in "My Account Balances" of https://wallet.counterwallet.io I have 4 balances:
1) 0.0XXXXX BTC
2) XX.XX A11............00
3) XX.XX A19............00
4) XX.XX DARKCLAM

What I must to do?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
andulolika A11 should be your vote token a19 the testdrop (worth nothing) and darkclam are your dark clams.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I must send A11...... to Daxxog to recive more darkclams???  

You already have your darkclams, A11 is the vote token, i think you guys should check darkclam.com, its at the beginning.
You can find there at the beginning the two addresses each of them being voting for doog or burn respectively 1doog and 1burn. IF you want to vote, otherwise you should hold/trade your darkclams till we launch as proper.

[jpcfan]

I still have 147,000 dark clam. i'm holding it for good now. not going to sell

[rianwarcil]

how to claim darkclam >

[andulolika]

how to claim darkclam >

You cannot claim anymore.

[andulolika]

We have twitter now! I never used twitter so ill use dark_clam as exploring twitter to cover even more people.
Feel free to follow/retweet Kolla in @dark_clams tweet: https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/708296083613597696?s=09

[andulolika]

Seems that voting will end up with a splashing victory for burning the leftover, there is 4 days left of voting, hurry up!.

[jpcfan]

i retwetted your DC tweet to my 2,119 followers










your very lucky to have me around andu

[andulolika]

i retwetted your DC tweet to my 2,119 followers










your very lucky to have me around andu

You even sound like trump.

[DarkClam]

Any new information? Has there been any updates on blockchain? wallet? exchange? etc

[andulolika]

Any new information? Has there been any updates on blockchain? wallet? exchange? etc

Besides fact that daxxog didnt had much time this week we can do no update till voting is done, we will lock and burn tough, i think waiting will be worth .

[daxxog]

For my darkclam followers and believers:
I have been very busy studying the ethereum VM and creating rough draft ideas and concepts for darkclam. No this doesn't mean darkclam is going to be an eth asset or on the ether blockchain in any way. It simply means I am "borrowing" some technology from them and putting it in my project. With all eyes on eth at the moment, using this technology also gives some credibility to darkclam since it is using a VM already published open source in another project. I currently have the VM figured out to the point where I can call certain functions in a smart contract (essential in the darkclam system). You can check all my progress at: https://github.com/daxxog/darkclam

Here is an excerpt from commit:42a56e8404f1977540c8abd6b1491d9fb562cabc for my programmers out there (maybe it will help you understand it better):

Code:

        npm install -g ethereumjs-codesim
        ethereumjs-codesim -C -f echo-test.sol --use-contract 'Echo' --callmethod 'Test(bytes32)' 'echo'
        
        TODO: translate this into a system for the CLAM blockchain
        
        The darkclam hypervisor manages:
            * storage/memory management
            * checkpoints / history
            * magnet system
            * eXtended/abi/cmd/json/system xajs
            * gas management
            * rpc system
            * extended ABI system (new types)
                Input - 
                    Magnet - magnet links as data input
                Output - 
                    Function - an specially encoded function call, can be used to call code in other VMs
            * dependencies
            * x-vm communication
        
        where new DCVM(Buffer bytecode, Buffer trie, Object abi)
            (note, this constructor is ussually called from the Hypervisor)
            bytecode - The VM bytecode, loaded from the [package-name].vm file
            trie - The previous VM state, a Patricia Merkle Tree expressed as a Buffer
            abi - The abi definition as a JavaScript Object, loaded from the [package-name].json file
        
        DCVM.run(Object block, Integer index, Array args, Function cb(Buffer trie, Error err, Buffer return, Integer gasUsed, Array logs), Integer value)
            (note, uses automatic ABI system, to make functions more dynamic)
            block - the Block containing this transaction (encoded and sent to the Function)
            index - the index of this transaction in the block (encoded and sent to the Function)
            args[0] - The function name (entry point)
            args[1 - ARG_LIMIT] - The arguments for the function (automatically encoded)
            cb - 
                trie - The next VM state (hypervisor manages confirmations with a run/rewind system backed by the checkpoint system), a Patricia Merkle Tree expressed as a Buffer; if err return lastState :)
                err - Graceful failing for VMs
                return - Buffer data to return to the Hypervisor (for x-vm communication and direct function calling)
                gasused - Amount of gas used running the selected function, passed back to Hypervisor for x-vm communication
                logs - An Array of logs spit out by the function code
            value - The value transacted (default 0)

For all the haters out there: fuck all of you.

[ilidion]

keep up the good work.

[andulolika]

Guys we could use some retweets for the exchanges https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/708296083613597696?s=09 .
Seems that voting is hours away of being closed, and seems that soon the leftover of over 13m will be burned and the asset will be locked.

[Dank Frank]

Guys we could use some retweets for the exchanges https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/708296083613597696?s=09 .
Seems that voting is hours away of being closed, and seems that soon the leftover of over 13m will be burned and the asset will be locked.

Ok, i retweeted it once on my personal account to 31k followers but if it helps, i got 19 more acounts with approx 80k followers all together... Am on it right now 

Only downside, i was active on twitter before i was with crypto, so not many crypto followers i think. Perhaps i will work on that later again when it really gets interesting.

[Dank Frank]

You can also "pin" the tweet so it stays on top of your twitter timeline.

[DarkClam]

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

[AleScamHole]

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

more than hard, its the basic rules ANY exchange has for getting listed ;p

jesus, man andu u make us stoners look bad with how long all this taking....


and you know now dooglus wont be touching this now, your chance for his help is done, you blew it ;( 
 (hence he hasent stopped in again here in over a week, where before he had input, and i think that would have brought alot to DC)

what a fail...

[andulolika]

You can also "pin" the tweet so it stays on top of your twitter timeline.

Thanks for that, was usefull .

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

Yeah i was let known by an exchange that without wallet and such there can be no listing.

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

more than hard, its the basic rules ANY exchange has for getting listed ;p

jesus, man andu u make us stoners look bad with how long all this taking....


and you know now dooglus wont be touching this now, your chance for his help is done, you blew it ;(  
 (hence he hasent stopped in again here in over a week, where before he had input, and i think that would have brought alot to DC)

what a fail...

I smell waffel, blue waffel...

Edit:Almost forgot the whole point of the post. : Alright guys the voting is kinda done, burning has won and it shall be closed in the next hours, the left over will be burned and the asset will be locked. Our next step is implementing the vm-chain so we can launch as a real coin and get rid of the chains !!!.

[chichidori]

A wallet would be a good start twitting an exchange would do nothing if we don`t have a working wallet.

[EGStrategies]

You can also "pin" the tweet so it stays on top of your twitter timeline.

Thanks for that, was usefull .

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

Yeah i was let known by an exchange that without wallet and such there can be no listing.

The whole thing about tweeting (which i did, of course ) about getting it listed is going to be hard unless its done. wallet, explorer, etc etc etc Noone will list it on their exchange until then i think.

more than hard, its the basic rules ANY exchange has for getting listed ;p

jesus, man andu u make us stoners look bad with how long all this taking....


and you know now dooglus wont be touching this now, your chance for his help is done, you blew it ;(  
 (hence he hasent stopped in again here in over a week, where before he had input, and i think that would have brought alot to DC)

what a fail...

I smell waffel, blue waffel...

Edit:Almost forgot the whole point of the post. : Alright guys the voting is kinda done, burning has won and it shall be closed in the next hours, the left over will be burned and the asset will be locked. Our next step is implementing the vm-chain so we can launch as a real coin and get rid of the chains !!!.

keep up the good work. f the haters

[andulolika]

A wallet would be a good start twitting an exchange would do nothing if we don`t have a working wallet.

Its impossible to have a wallet till the rest is done, minimun i can do is atleast let exchanges know that we exist.

[amansri]

Any new information? Has there been any updates on blockchain? wallet? exchange? etc

Besides fact that daxxog didnt had much time this week we can do no update till voting is done, we will lock and burn tough, i think waiting will be worth .

Good work for fiture

[daxxog]

Remaining DC has been burnt. Currently attempting to lock the token, but encountering an error with the XCP system. I'll keep you guys updated. If for some reason I can't lock it, I will just "transfer ownership" to a burn address which will have a similar effect.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775

[AleScamHole]

Remaining DC has been burnt. Currently attempting to lock the token, but encountering an error with the XCP system. I'll keep you guys updated. If for some reason I can't lock it, I will just "transfer ownership" to a burn address which will have a similar effect.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775

o? who would have thought.? kyle was right , you guys would find a way to not burn the dif in some way
go figure haha
fuck nuts
smoke another one, might help

i mean lets face it, it was another XCP magic internet token scam, you guys got called on it and now theres no motivation to actually do anything with the token.
plain and simple

[andulolika]

Remaining DC has been burnt. Currently attempting to lock the token, but encountering an error with the XCP system. I'll keep you guys updated. If for some reason I can't lock it, I will just "transfer ownership" to a burn address which will have a similar effect.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775

o? who would have thought.? kyle was right , you guys would find a way to not burn the dif in some way
go figure haha
fuck nuts
smoke another one, might help

i mean lets face it, it was another XCP magic internet token scam, you guys got called on it and now theres no motivation to actually do anything with the token.
plain and simple

You are delusional, its just a matter of time till daxxog xploited cc and kefkius organizes and finishes this. Contrary to what people believe darkclam is made to improve clam and facilitate services for it.
The leftover is burned and unless xcp gives a solution quick we will get rid of the ownership too, at the end all we need to go on "coin mode" is a snapshot of the DC blockchain from XCP, which is preatty easy to get

[AleScamHole]

Remaining DC has been burnt. Currently attempting to lock the token, but encountering an error with the XCP system. I'll keep you guys updated. If for some reason I can't lock it, I will just "transfer ownership" to a burn address which will have a similar effect.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775

o? who would have thought.? kyle was right , you guys would find a way to not burn the dif in some way
go figure haha
fuck nuts
smoke another one, might help

i mean lets face it, it was another XCP magic internet token scam, you guys got called on it and now theres no motivation to actually do anything with the token.
plain and simple

You are delusional, its just a matter of time till daxxog xploited cc and kefkius organizes and finishes this. Contrary to what people believe darkclam is made to improve clam and facilitate services for it.
The leftover is burned and unless xcp gives a solution quick we will get rid of the ownership too, at the end all we need to go on "coin mode" is a snapshot of the DC blockchain from XCP, which is preatty easy to get

o? another 3 days now whats the excuse?!
lmao

fucking goofs haha no wonder this is ghost thread!

[andulolika]

Remaining DC has been burnt. Currently attempting to lock the token, but encountering an error with the XCP system. I'll keep you guys updated. If for some reason I can't lock it, I will just "transfer ownership" to a burn address which will have a similar effect.

https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775

o? who would have thought.? kyle was right , you guys would find a way to not burn the dif in some way
go figure haha
fuck nuts
smoke another one, might help

i mean lets face it, it was another XCP magic internet token scam, you guys got called on it and now theres no motivation to actually do anything with the token.
plain and simple

You are delusional, its just a matter of time till daxxog xploited cc and kefkius organizes and finishes this. Contrary to what people believe darkclam is made to improve clam and facilitate services for it.
The leftover is burned and unless xcp gives a solution quick we will get rid of the ownership too, at the end all we need to go on "coin mode" is a snapshot of the DC blockchain from XCP, which is preatty easy to get

o? another 3 days now whats the excuse?!
lmao

fucking goofs haha no wonder this is ghost thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362098.msg14239233#msg14239233
We cannot lock our asset, anyone know something about this?

The last day it was mentioned on here that there might be a fork going on which maybe stops wallets from working. So maybe something around that might be the reason the setting can't go into effect?

I check the thread several times a day, i cannot just bump it myself or make people bump it but please tell me more.

[Dank Frank]

I just wait with patience on this coin. I did saw there were some buying/sell orders on counterwallet, so that's a + 

[marilyn4325]

I put some buy orders on counterwallet if someone wants to get some for cheap: you can buy 200k DC for 2 BTC. The counterwallet interface is a bit silly, go to "Markets", then type "DARKCLAM" for "Token 1", but don't hit enter, but select the "DARKCLAM" from the dropdown box, then click "Other" and enter "BITCOIN" for "Token 2", again select BITCOIN from the dropdown box, and then you should see the buy orders.

[DarkClam]

I'm going to hold on for the wallet and everything else to be completed and hopefully they get listed on an exchange.

[marilyn4325]

I put some buy orders on counterwallet if someone wants to get some for cheap: you can buy 200k DC for 2 BTC. The counterwallet interface is a bit silly, go to "Markets", then type "DARKCLAM" for "Token 1", but don't hit enter, but select the "DARKCLAM" from the dropdown box, then click "Other" and enter "BITCOIN" for "Token 2", again select BITCOIN from the dropdown box, and then you should see the buy orders.

Updated: 100,000 DARKCLAM now costs 250 XPC. Silly me thought BITCOIN were BITCOIN on counterwallet, but it is just another counterwallet asset. So to buy it, you have to buy XCP on an exchange like Poloniex, then transfer it to your counterwallet account and then you can buy it. It is the cheapest and biggest offer at the moment, I think you can buy fractional amounts, too, you don't have to buy all 100 k DARKCLAM.

Looking forward to use an easier to use exchange like Poloniex

[andulolika]

I put some buy orders on counterwallet if someone wants to get some for cheap: you can buy 200k DC for 2 BTC. The counterwallet interface is a bit silly, go to "Markets", then type "DARKCLAM" for "Token 1", but don't hit enter, but select the "DARKCLAM" from the dropdown box, then click "Other" and enter "BITCOIN" for "Token 2", again select BITCOIN from the dropdown box, and then you should see the buy orders.

Updated: 100,000 DARKCLAM now costs 250 XPC. Silly me thought BITCOIN were BITCOIN on counterwallet, but it is just another counterwallet asset. So to buy it, you have to buy XCP on an exchange like Poloniex, then transfer it to your counterwallet account and then you can buy it. It is the cheapest and biggest offer at the moment, I think you can buy fractional amounts, too, you don't have to buy all 100 k DARKCLAM.

Looking forward to use an easier to use exchange like Poloniex

Heh, i was using xcp all this time and when you said that we can also use btc i feelt a bit stupid. I think its going to take another while till we launch but im sure the wait will be worth.

Ps: Any developer that wants to contribute to the DC project will get no commission on investments on the dice. (Atleast the one i launch).

[Dank Frank]

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

[andulolika]

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

On dice there is definetly a progress, the wallet is not that simple as just the wallet.
Eventually it will be done, trust me im more impacient than yall about this, been planning it for a lot.

[gordob]

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

What's shaking with dark clam?

[AleScamHole]

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

What's shaking with dark clam?

same as always, it was another XCP scam. meh i called it from day one
o well

[andulolika]

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

What's shaking with dark clam?

Daxxog is not even mantaining clamgate anymore so he can focus on finishing the dice, besides a decent bunch of devs will be joining us.

Any progress, with wallet, dice site and other?

What's shaking with dark clam?

same as always, it was another XCP scam. meh i called it from day one
o well

And tell me, how can it be a scam since there was no ico? Coins were given away for free.

[liquidfunds]

I missed this coin 

[axxo]

I missed this coin  

But I don't, I find nothing special about this coin unlike the other clam coin.

[andulolika]

Will the dice site be added to dicebot?

I plan to eventually add it.

I missed this coin  

Such a shame, there will be a kind of rewards in the future maybe you will hit something there .

I missed this coin  

But I don't, I find nothing special about this coin unlike the other clam coin.

Have you looked at the bit of code that is on github?  Check www.github.com/daxxog/darkclam .

[grunt]

Keep up the good work.

Logged into my Counterwallet for the first time in a while and saw that I had all these new tokens. Can I just send those vote ones, and test distributions away?

Thanks for running things pretty damn smoothly!

[andulolika]

Keep up the good work.

Logged into my Counterwallet for the first time in a while and saw that I had all these new tokens. Can I just send those vote ones, and test distributions away?

Thanks for running things pretty damn smoothly!

As long as you dont send away your darkclams yeah you can just get rid of them.

[andulolika]

Hey all, im bumping the thread with the occassion of the funny fact i saw.
When we launched the distribution on counterparty there was a total of 211 holders, well after the few dumps seems that now there is 214 holders, i cannot wait to launch properly.
I know its true that the delay is being big, but first of all daxxog has very little time to develop and is much stuff to do, also, i promise the wait will be worth .

[andulolika]

Why is no one talking on the chat anymore (https://tlk.io/darkclam) ?   

I completly forgot about it lol.

[AltcoinScamfinder]

Ok, how does this work? Distribution to wagers? Someone have a TLDR on how to claim?

[andulolika]

Ok, how does this work? Distribution to wagers? Someone have a TLDR on how to claim?

Well we done claiming and voting,  the vote ended up in to stoping the distribution.
Right now we are on the XCP exchange yet the volume is really small, after the developement starts again the project will get faster since we will have the support of other devs.
A decent bunch of the progress can be tracked thru github.com/daxxog/darkclam or just daxxog.

[marilyn4325]

Have you looked at the bit of code that is on github?  Check www.github.com/daxxog/darkclam .

Doesn't look like working code and a lot of work to be done.

[andulolika]

Have you looked at the bit of code that is on github?  Check www.github.com/daxxog/darkclam .

Doesn't look like working code and a lot of work to be done.

i agree and i know, trust me ive been waiting for this for so long. Im currently searching for more devs for both site and coin.

[Mig-23]

is this assets/coins only can be traded in counter party/xcp ?
not in exchange like ccex,trex,polo,.etc ?
honestly i'm not too familiar to trade on xcp wallet

[andulolika]

is this assets/coins only can be traded in counter party/xcp ?
not in exchange like ccex,trex,polo,.etc ?
honestly i'm not too familiar to trade on xcp wallet

Yeah on xcp only, i would love too to get on coin mode but we kinda need another dev.

[EGStrategies]

y is not locked? maybe if we can raise a dev fund someone would be willing to develop

[jioy]

how about the coin amount??where write?

[andulolika]

y is not locked? maybe if we can raise a dev fund someone would be willing to develop

I was going to propose that today yeah it could be great, i first need to recover my DCs but i can set up an address as soon as i arrive home.
Ill also get the link to the "bug" that didnt let daxxog lock it, yet that may change after the ownership of the asset changes.

how about the coin amount??where write?

https://counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM or darkclam.com

[chichidori]

Lost all my DarkClam in counterparty wallet don`t know what happen i logged in with my password and all it give me a term of use after i accept it no darkclam and new address was created.
 

[CjMapope]

Lost all my DarkClam in counterparty wallet don`t know what happen i logged in with my password and all it give me a term of use after i accept it no darkclam and new address was created.
 

haha not sure what happened, if you used your same wallet seed, there's no way it should have "reset".

[andulolika]

Lost all my DarkClam in counterparty wallet don`t know what happen i logged in with my password and all it give me a term of use after i accept it no darkclam and new address was created.
 

Try to check the words, maybe you added something by mistake. It should be a password of 12 coherent words.

[andulolika]

Hi guys, now darkclam has a darkpaper, please check darkclam.com

[Mig-23]

is this assets/coins only can be traded in counter party/xcp ?
not in exchange like ccex,trex,polo,.etc ?
honestly i'm not too familiar to trade on xcp wallet

Yeah on xcp only, i would love too to get on coin mode but we kinda need another dev.

why not try to apply in yobit,c-cex or bluetrade for begining

if in polo its so hard to get listed

[andulolika]

is this assets/coins only can be traded in counter party/xcp ?
not in exchange like ccex,trex,polo,.etc ?
honestly i'm not too familiar to trade on xcp wallet

Yeah on xcp only, i would love too to get on coin mode but we kinda need another dev.

why not try to apply in yobit,c-cex or bluetrade for begining

if in polo its so hard to get listed

Because we are not coin yet, otherwise im pretty sure we would be in bleu.

[jpcfan]

so any news on dice site coming?

[navaman]

Why do we need an exchange toe xchange?......jk

[andulolika]

so any news on dice site coming?

My site will take a while, im currently focusing in getting a dev for the coin. But that shouldnt be a worry since there is a few sites waiting to add DC.

Why do we need an exchange toe xchange?......jk

Well the XCP exchange is pretty unconvenient but first of all we need a wallet, the exchanges i contacted said its imprescindible.

[andulolika]

There is more people that are willing to add darkclams to the devpot, besides that ill start adding btc to the pot as soon as i can. Still looking for more developers.

[AleScamHole]

There is more people that are willing to add darkclams to the devpot, besides that ill start adding btc to the pot as soon as i can. Still looking for more developers.

well i doubt much of adding to the pot will happen from you, tbh it's pretty obvious your broke ass and can't run this coin, the constant loans your taking tells that ;\
just let it go man, you made an XCP scam, dumped your DC on idiots, that's it. nothing to see here
i just am disappointing you fudged it so bad Doog, who came in the beginning to support, has now realized your not serious and pulled out from even stopping in this thread anymore ;(

YOU KILLED DC, (tho you created it too haha so funny how it goes)

[andulolika]

There is more people that are willing to add darkclams to the devpot, besides that ill start adding btc to the pot as soon as i can. Still looking for more developers.

well i doubt much of adding to the pot will happen from you, tbh it's pretty obvious your broke ass and can't run this coin, the constant loans your taking tells that ;\
just let it go man, you made an XCP scam, dumped your DC on idiots, that's it. nothing to see here
i just am disappointing you fudged it so bad Doog, who came in the beginning to support, has now realized your not serious and pulled out from even stopping in this thread anymore ;(

YOU KILLED DC, (tho you created it too haha so funny how it goes)

Hmm? Those loans are my gambling funds, and i just paid a dude to have the dice by the end of the month which will be the income ill use to fund developing.
Explain to me how did i dumped on idiots? My initial stake was 61k and now i have 161k(edit:i gave away 5k and 35k to the devfund which leaves me with 121k).
Also i think i know why doog is not stepping in the thread further but i have no right to tell why.
If you seen that i take loans you would probably see that i could get a bigger bunch just by changing my signature.
Pd: fudsters like you make me horny.

[andulolika]

fudster = fraudster?

A dude that does fud?

[andulolika]

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Google strikes again..

Thanks, makes sense said that way :p.

[AleScamHole]

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Google strikes again..

Thanks, makes sense said that way :p.

fudder --   a word shitty devs use to call others that call them on their shit.

let's face it, to sum it up. your a flake.  i see those people in life all the time, can't get nothing done. a flake.

ill leave you alone, there no point arguing, everyone else has given up getting through to your thick head, i midas too'

hope your life gets better, but i can guarantee it won't cause you have no motivation.

keep on them loans!
take care

[andulolika]

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Google strikes again..

Thanks, makes sense said that way :p.

fudder --   a word shitty devs use to call others that call them on their shit.

let's face it, to sum it up. your a flake.  i see those people in life all the time, can't get nothing done. a flake.

ill leave you alone, there no point arguing, everyone else has given up getting through to your thick head, i midas too'

hope your life gets better, but i can guarantee it won't cause you have no motivation.

keep on them loans!
take care

Im really chill about the subject because few folks that i believe that were honest told me to take my time and do it properly, i see no reason to hurry up even if getting it faster would get me happy also.
The loans i did most of the time were backed by salary or collateral.

[Dank Frank]

I learn so much in here 

[chichidori]

don`t get me wrong but is this coin dead already, theirs is no much talk about it, dark paper have been publish some have read it including me, people are waiting for the wallet, exchange and other updates, hiring a dev. or adding people to the project may get things going.

[andulolika]

don`t get me wrong but is this coin dead already, theirs is no much talk about it, dark paper have been publish some have read it including me, people are waiting for the wallet, exchange and other updates, hiring a dev. or adding people to the project may get things going.

I guess ill change my signature to some signature campaing and the payments to do to the dev funding, i was just doubting if it wouldnt look too bad if i change it.
There is actually two coders willing to help but there is no main dev yet.

[andulolika]

I would help you out for free, but my skills are an embarrassment in general..

You can always join the developement slack, eventually when devs gather you could learn better with "us".

[andulolika]

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big iif anyone serious shows interest.

[allinbox]

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big iif anyone serious shows interest.

Just do it already ! The more time thats running through the less people will believe in your coin...

[rindo]

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big iif anyone serious shows interest.

may have to wait yeah looking for Dev, andu i think you should promote this DC at least give legit infomation about DC

[allinbox]

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big iif anyone serious shows interest.

may have to wait yeah looking for Dev, andu i think you should promote this DC at least give legit infomation about DC

I'd think the information on his official site are fine, just need to be done already. But a clear amount the dev would get might be good anyways.

[andulolika]

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big iif anyone serious shows interest.

may have to wait yeah looking for Dev, andu i think you should promote this DC at least give legit infomation about DC

I'd think the information on his official site are fine, just need to be done already. But a clear amount the dev would get might be good anyways.

We currently have 3 programmers that are not used to the javascript enviroment willing to help if anyone with wider knowledge join's us.
Right now i think i would raise a max of 5%* of the DC supply which is the base-pot, and slowly after i start getting some income ill keep donating BTC till someone shows up, it needs to be understood thats a big project and i already thinked about a couple more really cool features and all i've been told is that it could get a bit hard to do. I also planned to join a signature campaing to donate the funds but that would drastically lower the awarenes of DC wherever i posted.

Still looking for developers, the dev-fund would get fairly big if anyone serious shows interest.

may have to wait yeah looking for Dev, andu i think you should promote this DC at least give legit infomation about DC

By raising awareness while not having any progress people blames me that im just hyping it and offering nothing so i tought i should keep a low profile promoting it for while i either raise the funds myself or i manage to get us a developer by other ways.

* 5% of the suply is about 550k DC.

[andulolika]

Hi guys, i think its really the time for that dev-fund to start getting filled, if it does many good things will happen. Ps: Heat ON.
Edit: Devfund filled up.

[Dank Frank]

Hi guys, i think its really the time for that dev-fund to start getting filled, if it does many good things will happen. Ps: Heat ON.
Edit: Devfund filled up.

Maybe make a btc address just for that purpose? I think it has more use then setting up the fund in DC...
I still got hope this coin goes somewhere, someday

[andulolika]

Hi guys, i think its really the time for that dev-fund to start getting filled, if it does many good things will happen. Ps: Heat ON.
Edit: Devfund filled up.

Maybe make a btc address just for that purpose? I think it has more use then setting up the fund in DC...
I still got hope this coin goes somewhere, someday

Since it's an XCP address it can hold both BTC and DC or well any XCP asset.
The main dev is fine with the fund in DC as long as i know, and the fund for the main dev is topped. Any deposit from now will be held for future necesities

[daxxog]

XCP Issue #775 has been closed. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775
Thus I was finally able to lock the XCP asset! https://counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM

Truth. Trust. Peace. Happiness.

[andulolika]

XCP Issue #775 has been closed. https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/issues/775
Thus I was finally able to lock the XCP asset! https://counterpartychain.io/asset/DARKCLAM

Truth. Trust. Peace. Happiness.

Halleluyah, thanks for that daxx .

[cloverme]

I've got ~150k DC, if anyone is interested in acquiring them, PM.

[highlonesome]

So what's the plan on how to transition from being an XCP asset?  Are you using the same list on the darkclam site to make a brand new genesis block, or is there gonna be some kind of exchange?  Asking cause I made a total noob mistake; I threw away the paper that had my 12 word passphrase on it.  I'd completely forgotten about it when I was tidying my desk drawers.  Oops.

[andulolika]

So what's the plan on how to transition from being an XCP asset?  Are you using the same list on the darkclam site to make a brand new genesis block, or is there gonna be some kind of exchange?  Asking cause I made a total noob mistake; I threw away the paper that had my 12 word passphrase on it.  I'd completely forgotten about it when I was tidying my desk drawers.  Oops.

Sorry my phone is broken and I cannot check things properly thru the day. You are not the only one, probably you will be able to recover your funds if you have proof of ownership, I promise I'll come with news soon. Ah, shit happens, I've lost a bit myself with similar stuff.

[highlonesome]

No worries!  Appreciate it, pretty sure I can find some proof.  My old jd account if nothing else.   Anyways, thanks for the quick reply!

So what's the plan on how to transition from being an XCP asset?  Are you using the same list on the darkclam site to make a brand new genesis block, or is there gonna be some kind of exchange?  Asking cause I made a total noob mistake; I threw away the paper that had my 12 word passphrase on it.  I'd completely forgotten about it when I was tidying my desk drawers.  Oops.

Sorry my phone is broken and I cannot check things properly thru the day. You are not the only one, probably you will be able to recover your funds if you have proof of ownership, I promise I'll come with news soon. Ah, shit happens, I've lost a bit myself with similar stuff.

[andulolika]

No worries!  Appreciate it, pretty sure I can find some proof.  My old jd account if nothing else.   Anyways, thanks for the quick reply!

So what's the plan on how to transition from being an XCP asset?  Are you using the same list on the darkclam site to make a brand new genesis block, or is there gonna be some kind of exchange?  Asking cause I made a total noob mistake; I threw away the paper that had my 12 word passphrase on it.  I'd completely forgotten about it when I was tidying my desk drawers.  Oops.

Sorry my phone is broken and I cannot check things properly thru the day. You are not the only one, probably you will be able to recover your funds if you have proof of ownership, I promise I'll come with news soon. Ah, shit happens, I've lost a bit myself with similar stuff.

I just seen that it wasn't big difference on the timing, yeah the jd account was my initial thinking too, we shall see.

[SEABOND]

"darkclams will make you a better person. (maybe) ""
hehe ima get me some

[andulolika]

"darkclams will make you a better person. (maybe) ""
hehe ima get me some

You want to become a better person?

[highlonesome]

Ha, I wish more people wanted that.

"darkclams will make you a better person. (maybe) ""
hehe ima get me some

You want to become a better person?

[andulolika]

Ha, I wish more people wanted that.

"darkclams will make you a better person. (maybe) ""
hehe ima get me some

You want to become a better person?

I doubt money can make you a better person unless you use it to help people but +1.

[EGStrategies]

 

we need a dice site for these 

[andulolika]

we need a dice site for these  

Indeed, SWIM shall make it!.

[andulolika]

Guys, we still want more developers.

[gordob]

Guys, we still want more developers.

Hey Andu, what's shaking with this project?

Need to find a way to kickstart this project without further huge developments.

1. I see pharesim from steemit has created a gambling bot on steemit - maybe chat to him about some collaboration, maybe an option to create a web front end and allow the current dark clam investors to make profits based on share equity.

Something else to consider is to move to an asset than develop tech for coin (enough of those) and move to Nxt/ardor platform.

Food for thought )

[andulolika]

Guys, we still want more developers.

Hey Andu, what's shaking with this project?

Need to find a way to kickstart this project without further huge developments.

1. I see pharesim from steemit has created a gambling bot on steemit - maybe chat to him about some collaboration, maybe an option to create a web front end and allow the current dark clam investors to make profits based on share equity.

Something else to consider is to move to an asset than develop tech for coin (enough of those) and move to Nxt/ardor platform.

Food for thought )

Edit: going to launch a simple wallet soon.

[marilyn4325]

I discussed a novel coin idea with andu. We didn't hear anything for some time now from the other programmer, googleplex, so I'll start to implement it, if DC holders like it.

TL;DR: a new coin, based on some Dash ideas with one minute transaction time, anonymous transactions, and a built-in fast Dice (max. 4 seconds delay), implemented as a trustless system (no central server needed) and provably fair.

First some background information. Dash uses a system of a few thousand Masternodes, see the Dash whitepaper for details. It allows advanced concepts like instant payment, with transaction times of less than 4 seconds (but normal transactions are fast, too, because the average block time is one minute). It does this with a random quorum of Masternode servers. Same concept is used for Darksend, for sending coins anonymously. Both ideas makes it a good base for Darkclam, because of the stated goals (see first post in this thread).

Now the novel idea I propose is to use the network itself as a Dice service. There is no investor. If you win a bet, new coins are created and if you lose a bet, coins are destroyed. On average the supply should stay the same, if the bets are not too big, e.g. a whale bets half of all supply and loses, but even then it would just half or increase by a factor of 1.5. Less than some normal fluctuations for some coins at exchanges.

One way to implement this is to use an external random source and to use the blockchain to record bets. After a draw of the external random source, the coins are created or destroyed and every node can verify it. Chancecoin uses this system. The coin seems to be dead now, because the developers disappeared, but it was listed for some time even at Poloniex.

I propose a new way how to handle bets: with the Dash quorum system. n random masternodes are selected (of course, the select algorithm has to be safe and random, too, otherwise you could select all your own servers) and each masternode creates a server seed and sends back the hash to the client. Then the client creates a random seed (or the user enters it), which is then sent to all selected masternodes. The idea is that you can't trust one server, but you can trust the quorum. All masternodes send back their server seed, which can be verified by all other masternodes and a roll is generated with an algorithm as used by just-dice, but all server seeds and the client seed are concatenated. This is the provably fair part. Needs to be thought in detail, and messages needs to be signed etc., but it should work similarly to the instant payment concept of Dash.

There will be no proof-of-stake or proof-of-work when creating new blocks. But a bet will have a small fee, which will prevent spamming the network as well (and normal transactions will have a fee as well), and a randomly selected masternode creates a block and gets the fee (maybe as in NXT and WAVES: the more DC the masternode owns, the higher the probability that it creates a block).

My plan to implement this: first I will implement Dash with the Scorex framework, which is written in Scala (WAVES already uses this framework and is currently tested a lot, with bug-bounties, and I guess will be at Poloniex soon, so a good code base). This will help me to understand the concepts of Dash in detail, and it will help the crypto community as well, because it is so much easier to test or change things in Scala than in C++, which is currently used for Dash. The Scorex framework provides a lot of common functions, so that the actual implementation of Dash shouldn't be that difficult, and would be mostly translating the existing C++ code to Scala. More advantages of Scala compared to C++: bugs like buffer overflows are impossible, the code runs without recompiling on Windows, Mac and Linux (because it is compiled to Java JVM classes), and it is much more compact, easier to write, and easier to read than C++.

After this I will implement the Darkclam coin, with the Scorex framework, based on some parts of Dash. There will be an integrated web browser (already part of the Scorex framework with Akka), which will provide the usual transfer and wallet functions (I suggest a decentralized wallet on the network, like in counterparty), and additionally the Dice game. You can connect to some official server on the internet, or run your own server locally on your computer. There is no way that the Dice game can get shut down by shutting down one server.

Then there will be a testnet for some time, until everyone agrees that it is stable and we can release the mainnet. The counterparty DC coins then will be transferred to the new coins on the mainnet. One way would be proof-of-burn, but maybe there are other ways possible with the counterparty API.

That's all a lot of work, and more developers are welcome. I'll do this all for free, because I believe in Darkclam, and hopefully can sell a bit later on Poloniex I guess it could need a year until it is all done, if I do it all by myself.

[gordob]

I discussed a novel coin idea with andu. We didn't hear anything for some time now from the other programmer, googleplex, so I'll start to implement it, if DC holders like it.

TL;DR: a new coin, based on some Dash ideas with one minute transaction time, anonymous transactions, and a built-in fast Dice (max. 4 seconds delay), implemented as a trustless system (no central server needed) and provably fair.

First some background information. Dash uses a system of a few thousand Masternodes, see the Dash whitepaper for details. It allows advanced concepts like instant payment, with transaction times of less than 4 seconds (but normal transactions are fast, too, because the average block time is one minute). It does this with a random quorum of Masternode servers. Same concept is used for Darksend, for sending coins anonymously. Both ideas makes it a good base for Darkclam, because of the stated goals (see first post in this thread).

Now the novel idea I propose is to use the network itself as a Dice service. There is no investor. If you win a bet, new coins are created and if you lose a bet, coins are destroyed. On average the supply should stay the same, if the bets are not too big, e.g. a whale bets half of all supply and loses, but even then it would just half or increase by a factor of 1.5. Less than some normal fluctuations for some coins at exchanges.

One way to implement this is to use an external random source and to use the blockchain to record bets. After a draw of the external random source, the coins are created or destroyed and every node can verify it. Chancecoin uses this system. The coin seems to be dead now, because the developers disappeared, but it was listed for some time even at Poloniex.

I propose a new way how to handle bets: with the Dash quorum system. n random masternodes are selected (of course, the select algorithm has to be safe and random, too, otherwise you could select all your own servers) and each masternode creates a server seed and sends back the hash to the client. Then the client creates a random seed (or the user enters it), which is then sent to all selected masternodes. The idea is that you can't trust one server, but you can trust the quorum. All masternodes send back their server seed, which can be verified by all other masternodes and a roll is generated with an algorithm as used by just-dice, but all server seeds and the client seed are concatenated. This is the provably fair part. Needs to be thought in detail, and messages needs to be signed etc., but it should work similarly to the instant payment concept of Dash.

There will be no proof-of-stake or proof-of-work when creating new blocks. But a bet will have a small fee, which will prevent spamming the network as well (and normal transactions will have a fee as well), and a randomly selected masternode creates a block and gets the fee (maybe as in NXT and WAVES: the more DC the masternode owns, the higher the probability that it creates a block).

My plan to implement this: first I will implement Dash with the Scorex framework, which is written in Scala (WAVES already uses this framework and is currently tested a lot, with bug-bounties, and I guess will be at Poloniex soon, so a good code base). This will help me to understand the concepts of Dash in detail, and it will help the crypto community as well, because it is so much easier to test or change things in Scala than in C++, which is currently used for Dash. The Scorex framework provides a lot of common functions, so that the actual implementation of Dash shouldn't be that difficult, and would be mostly translating the existing C++ code to Scala. More advantages of Scala compared to C++: bugs like buffer overflows are impossible, the code runs without recompiling on Windows, Mac and Linux (because it is compiled to Java JVM classes), and it is much more compact, easier to write, and easier to read than C++.

After this I will implement the Darkclam coin, with the Scorex framework, based on some parts of Dash. There will be an integrated web browser (already part of the Scorex framework with Akka), which will provide the usual transfer and wallet functions (I suggest a decentralized wallet on the network, like in counterparty), and additionally the Dice game. You can connect to some official server on the internet, or run your own server locally on your computer. There is no way that the Dice game can get shut down by shutting down one server.

Then there will be a testnet for some time, until everyone agrees that it is stable and we can release the mainnet. The counterparty DC coins then will be transferred to the new coins on the mainnet. One way would be proof-of-burn, but maybe there are other ways possible with the counterparty API.

That's all a lot of work, and more developers are welcome. I'll do this all for free, because I believe in Darkclam, and hopefully can sell a bit later on Poloniex I guess it could need a year until it is all done, if I do it all by myself.

Sounds like a good idea

[andulolika]

I discussed a novel coin idea with andu. We didn't hear anything for some time now from the other programmer, googleplex, so I'll start to implement it, if DC holders like it.

TL;DR: a new coin, based on some Dash ideas with one minute transaction time, anonymous transactions, and a built-in fast Dice (max. 4 seconds delay), implemented as a trustless system (no central server needed) and provably fair.

First some background information. Dash uses a system of a few thousand Masternodes, see the Dash whitepaper for details. It allows advanced concepts like instant payment, with transaction times of less than 4 seconds (but normal transactions are fast, too, because the average block time is one minute). It does this with a random quorum of Masternode servers. Same concept is used for Darksend, for sending coins anonymously. Both ideas makes it a good base for Darkclam, because of the stated goals (see first post in this thread).

Now the novel idea I propose is to use the network itself as a Dice service. There is no investor. If you win a bet, new coins are created and if you lose a bet, coins are destroyed. On average the supply should stay the same, if the bets are not too big, e.g. a whale bets half of all supply and loses, but even then it would just half or increase by a factor of 1.5. Less than some normal fluctuations for some coins at exchanges.

One way to implement this is to use an external random source and to use the blockchain to record bets. After a draw of the external random source, the coins are created or destroyed and every node can verify it. Chancecoin uses this system. The coin seems to be dead now, because the developers disappeared, but it was listed for some time even at Poloniex.

I propose a new way how to handle bets: with the Dash quorum system. n random masternodes are selected (of course, the select algorithm has to be safe and random, too, otherwise you could select all your own servers) and each masternode creates a server seed and sends back the hash to the client. Then the client creates a random seed (or the user enters it), which is then sent to all selected masternodes. The idea is that you can't trust one server, but you can trust the quorum. All masternodes send back their server seed, which can be verified by all other masternodes and a roll is generated with an algorithm as used by just-dice, but all server seeds and the client seed are concatenated. This is the provably fair part. Needs to be thought in detail, and messages needs to be signed etc., but it should work similarly to the instant payment concept of Dash.

There will be no proof-of-stake or proof-of-work when creating new blocks. But a bet will have a small fee, which will prevent spamming the network as well (and normal transactions will have a fee as well), and a randomly selected masternode creates a block and gets the fee (maybe as in NXT and WAVES: the more DC the masternode owns, the higher the probability that it creates a block).

My plan to implement this: first I will implement Dash with the Scorex framework, which is written in Scala (WAVES already uses this framework and is currently tested a lot, with bug-bounties, and I guess will be at Poloniex soon, so a good code base). This will help me to understand the concepts of Dash in detail, and it will help the crypto community as well, because it is so much easier to test or change things in Scala than in C++, which is currently used for Dash. The Scorex framework provides a lot of common functions, so that the actual implementation of Dash shouldn't be that difficult, and would be mostly translating the existing C++ code to Scala. More advantages of Scala compared to C++: bugs like buffer overflows are impossible, the code runs without recompiling on Windows, Mac and Linux (because it is compiled to Java JVM classes), and it is much more compact, easier to write, and easier to read than C++.

After this I will implement the Darkclam coin, with the Scorex framework, based on some parts of Dash. There will be an integrated web browser (already part of the Scorex framework with Akka), which will provide the usual transfer and wallet functions (I suggest a decentralized wallet on the network, like in counterparty), and additionally the Dice game. You can connect to some official server on the internet, or run your own server locally on your computer. There is no way that the Dice game can get shut down by shutting down one server.

Then there will be a testnet for some time, until everyone agrees that it is stable and we can release the mainnet. The counterparty DC coins then will be transferred to the new coins on the mainnet. One way would be proof-of-burn, but maybe there are other ways possible with the counterparty API.

That's all a lot of work, and more developers are welcome. I'll do this all for free, because I believe in Darkclam, and hopefully can sell a bit later on Poloniex I guess it could need a year until it is all done, if I do it all by myself.

Sounds like a good idea

It's lovely ,  I hope plex gets to come around and it gets a speedup, remember that if anyone wants can send thru pm mail so I send invitation to slack

[gordob]

I discussed a novel coin idea with andu. We didn't hear anything for some time now from the other programmer, googleplex, so I'll start to implement it, if DC holders like it.

TL;DR: a new coin, based on some Dash ideas with one minute transaction time, anonymous transactions, and a built-in fast Dice (max. 4 seconds delay), implemented as a trustless system (no central server needed) and provably fair.

First some background information. Dash uses a system of a few thousand Masternodes, see the Dash whitepaper for details. It allows advanced concepts like instant payment, with transaction times of less than 4 seconds (but normal transactions are fast, too, because the average block time is one minute). It does this with a random quorum of Masternode servers. Same concept is used for Darksend, for sending coins anonymously. Both ideas makes it a good base for Darkclam, because of the stated goals (see first post in this thread).

Now the novel idea I propose is to use the network itself as a Dice service. There is no investor. If you win a bet, new coins are created and if you lose a bet, coins are destroyed. On average the supply should stay the same, if the bets are not too big, e.g. a whale bets half of all supply and loses, but even then it would just half or increase by a factor of 1.5. Less than some normal fluctuations for some coins at exchanges.

One way to implement this is to use an external random source and to use the blockchain to record bets. After a draw of the external random source, the coins are created or destroyed and every node can verify it. Chancecoin uses this system. The coin seems to be dead now, because the developers disappeared, but it was listed for some time even at Poloniex.

I propose a new way how to handle bets: with the Dash quorum system. n random masternodes are selected (of course, the select algorithm has to be safe and random, too, otherwise you could select all your own servers) and each masternode creates a server seed and sends back the hash to the client. Then the client creates a random seed (or the user enters it), which is then sent to all selected masternodes. The idea is that you can't trust one server, but you can trust the quorum. All masternodes send back their server seed, which can be verified by all other masternodes and a roll is generated with an algorithm as used by just-dice, but all server seeds and the client seed are concatenated. This is the provably fair part. Needs to be thought in detail, and messages needs to be signed etc., but it should work similarly to the instant payment concept of Dash.

There will be no proof-of-stake or proof-of-work when creating new blocks. But a bet will have a small fee, which will prevent spamming the network as well (and normal transactions will have a fee as well), and a randomly selected masternode creates a block and gets the fee (maybe as in NXT and WAVES: the more DC the masternode owns, the higher the probability that it creates a block).

My plan to implement this: first I will implement Dash with the Scorex framework, which is written in Scala (WAVES already uses this framework and is currently tested a lot, with bug-bounties, and I guess will be at Poloniex soon, so a good code base). This will help me to understand the concepts of Dash in detail, and it will help the crypto community as well, because it is so much easier to test or change things in Scala than in C++, which is currently used for Dash. The Scorex framework provides a lot of common functions, so that the actual implementation of Dash shouldn't be that difficult, and would be mostly translating the existing C++ code to Scala. More advantages of Scala compared to C++: bugs like buffer overflows are impossible, the code runs without recompiling on Windows, Mac and Linux (because it is compiled to Java JVM classes), and it is much more compact, easier to write, and easier to read than C++.

After this I will implement the Darkclam coin, with the Scorex framework, based on some parts of Dash. There will be an integrated web browser (already part of the Scorex framework with Akka), which will provide the usual transfer and wallet functions (I suggest a decentralized wallet on the network, like in counterparty), and additionally the Dice game. You can connect to some official server on the internet, or run your own server locally on your computer. There is no way that the Dice game can get shut down by shutting down one server.

Then there will be a testnet for some time, until everyone agrees that it is stable and we can release the mainnet. The counterparty DC coins then will be transferred to the new coins on the mainnet. One way would be proof-of-burn, but maybe there are other ways possible with the counterparty API.

That's all a lot of work, and more developers are welcome. I'll do this all for free, because I believe in Darkclam, and hopefully can sell a bit later on Poloniex I guess it could need a year until it is all done, if I do it all by myself.

Sounds like a good idea

It's lovely ,  I hope plex gets to come around and it gets a speedup, remember that if anyone wants can send thru pm mail so I send invitation to slack

I will put some of my DarkClam towards this - good luck guys - lets rock n roll )

[navaman]

The MS issue can be substantial.  Clam will take a hit when somebody wins big on JD.  What about a constant MS increase with an automatic sterilization mechanism for large wins and losses.  It can also be adjust for velocity, too.

[Glucose]

So what's the plan on how to transition from being an XCP asset?  Are you using the same list on the darkclam site to make a brand new genesis block, or is there gonna be some kind of exchange?  Asking cause I made a total noob mistake; I threw away the paper that had my 12 word passphrase on it.  I'd completely forgotten about it when I was tidying my desk drawers.  Oops.

Sorry my phone is broken and I cannot check things properly thru the day. You are not the only one, probably you will be able to recover your funds if you have proof of ownership, I promise I'll come with news soon. Ah, shit happens, I've lost a bit myself with similar stuff.

Same here. But I can prove ownership of the JD account.

I hope I'll be able to get my Darkclams

EDIT : I just joined Slack. So I guess you can perhaps help me from there

[marilyn4325]

The MS issue can be substantial.  Clam will take a hit when somebody wins big on JD.  What about a constant MS increase with an automatic sterilization mechanism for large wins and losses.  It can also be adjust for velocity, too.

What is "MS"?

Plans have changed a bit. Andu wants to have a normal Dice fast, so I think a good idea is if I start with cloning WAVES (because it has nice and clean code, and I know it already from the WAVES bug bounty program). This means we will have one minute transaction time from the beginning, but no anonymous transactions. I'll read how Dash implemented it and will reserve some bytes or type flags or whatever in the blockchain transactions for it, if necessary, so that it can be implemented later. And I really like the ClamSpeech feature, which I will add to the WAVES clone, that's easy. This will include the Clamour voting system, which will help later for deciding what new features should be implemented, like my realtime network based Dice idea with masternodes and the network itself as the investor. The first clone with ClamSpeech should be possible for me to do in a few weeks instead of a year for a full port of Dash.

I suggest that the DC coins from Counterparty can be transferred later by signing a message with your Counterparty address, and then a website allows to transfer the real DarkClam from the genesis account to a new DarkClam address, with the signature proving that you own the Counterparty DC asset. This avoids additional Bitcoin transfer costs for the Counterparty assets, e.g. for a proof-of-burn concept. But if you lost your Counterparty account and you can prove that you own the JustDice account, we can transfer it manually, too (if the Counterparty asset for this associated JustDice account was not already sold of course).

[Glucose]

But if you lost your Counterparty account and you can prove that you own the JustDice account, we can transfer it manually, too (if the Counterparty asset for this associated JustDice account was not already sold of course).

That's really great Marilyn. Thank you very much for the work you're doing.

[andulolika]

But if you lost your Counterparty account and you can prove that you own the JustDice account, we can transfer it manually, too (if the Counterparty asset for this associated JustDice account was not already sold of course).

That's really great Marilyn. Thank you very much for the work you're doing.

It is, there is a bunch of users that will be really happy when they hear they will be able to recover their DCs.

[CjMapope]

But if you lost your Counterparty account and you can prove that you own the JustDice account, we can transfer it manually, too (if the Counterparty asset for this associated JustDice account was not already sold of course).

That's really great Marilyn. Thank you very much for the work you're doing.

It is, there is a bunch of users that will be really happy when they hear they will be able to recover their DCs.

i still have mine ;p   sadly noone has posted any cheap on counterparty for a while :/

i will always like this project, it just needs some TLC ;p

on that note : If someone wants a few satoshis to throw around i would like to buy a few DC, cheap like 5 sat each, just a dump price if anyone wants

[andulolika]

Guys Dochouse is trying to sell his stash, he has 1.5M if anyone is interested can let me know.

[matsud2]

How much we can get this coin from wager?
Example if we wagered 1k clam how much dark clam we will earn

[andulolika]

How much we can get this coin from wager?
Example if we wagered 1k clam how much dark clam we will earn

The distribution is locked, it used to be 1:1 on wager.

[len01]

Wtf this coin alive, the good news is i lost my jd account
btw sup andu, been long time

[andulolika]

Wtf this coin alive, the good news is i lost my jd account
btw sup andu, been long time

If you have claimed then your darkclams should still be in your XCP wallet.
If you want to recover your JD account you should contact dooglus, just use doog.justdice@gmail.com.
and well, the things are going, slowly, but going.

[andulolika]

Hey guys, I'm bumping to let you all know we still need developers, there is still a fund of 300.000 DarkClam's and I just updated the main post.
We need to launch a simple wallet as soon as possible and then while (atleast) slowly the project takes form we can decide and ponder how things should be done and if anything needs to be changed.
That way we have a base which we can develop and at the same time the project can be perfectionated.

Suggestions and observations are very welcome.

[andulolika]

Also, few retweets to this might help: https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/817219736673144832 .

[zazarb]

Also, few retweets to this might help: https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/817219736673144832 .

done hope helps...

[andulolika]

Also, few retweets to this might help: https://twitter.com/dark_clam/status/817219736673144832 .

done hope helps...

Hehe seen it, appreciate a lot .

[marilyn4325]

I'm sorry, I'm out of this project. I thought I could do it, but not enough time, because too many other projects and personal things. I gave all my darkclam to andu, other programmers can take over now.

[andulolika]

I'm sorry, I'm out of this project. I thought I could do it, but not enough time, because too many other projects and personal things. I gave all my darkclam to andu, other programmers can take over now.

marilyn? *goes and cries to the corner*
Edit: shall see how we proceed as soon as i get home. Thank you for the darkclams marilyn, they will be put to good use, and you will have a bunch of them waiting for you .

[andulolika]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

[bitcoin8980]

But if you lost your Counterparty account and you can prove that you own the JustDice account, we can transfer it manually, too (if the Counterparty asset for this associated JustDice account was not already sold of course).

That's really great Marilyn. Thank you very much for the work you're doing.

we must be thankfull for all who gives better understanding to us for a great work.

[cloverme]

So, a couple of people have contacted me about helping to put something together for this coin or buy up another large chunk of darkclam from other holders. First, I don't want to disrespect any of the hard work that andu has done for the coin or past developers.  Second, there are a couple of things in the darkclam whitepaper (such as the ethereum vm base to run the coin) that I don't really like, but that's just a personal belief that I have, so it would be difficult for me to contribute effort on the platform. If I did build a coin, it would be a pow/pos combination and wouldn't be built on ethereum.

Anyway, A couple of people have asked if I'd include darkclam in the game I'm developing (spacepirate). At this point, the game is built with bitcoin, but takes other coins via shapeshift. I know darkclam isn't on shapeshift or near that area of growth yet, but that's one future possible outcome. The other possible outcome, would be a co-operative investment, where any dark clam you own would be burned for an investment % stake in spacepirate. I'm leaning towards the latter, and I'd also burn the 150k dark clam I own and donate the % to a charity or an organization.

Anyway, I wanted to share these thoughts and feedback towards those who have reached out.

[andulolika]

So, a couple of people have contacted me about helping to put something together for this coin or buy up another large chunk of darkclam from other holders. First, I don't want to disrespect any of the hard work that andu has done for the coin or past developers.  Second, there are a couple of things in the darkclam whitepaper (such as the ethereum vm base to run the coin) that I don't really like, but that's just a personal belief that I have, so it would be difficult for me to contribute effort on the platform. If I did build a coin, it would be a pow/pos combination and wouldn't be built on ethereum.

Anyway, A couple of people have asked if I'd include darkclam in the game I'm developing (spacepirate). At this point, the game is built with bitcoin, but takes other coins via shapeshift. I know darkclam isn't on shapeshift or near that area of growth yet, but that's one future possible outcome. The other possible outcome, would be a co-operative investment, where any dark clam you own would be burned for an investment % stake in spacepirate. I'm leaning towards the latter, and I'd also burn the 150k dark clam I own and donate the % to a charity or an organization.

Anyway, I wanted to share these thoughts and feedback towards those who have reached out.

The first project, the one that Daxxog was around and is in the whitepaper is not our goal anymore, neither the one I ideated with googleplex eventho some ideas from that one will be mentioned in a future. The last one, the one marilyn published won't be either our plan yet we will extract some things from there, everything depending of what people wants.

We are going to launch a simple CLAM clone and take it from there, it will be fairly easier in my opinion.

Why launching a CLAM clone? The clamour voting system is expected to be pretty useful to determine what we really want.

About the distribution method, uncertain how many choices are out there but I thought about using BTC addresses, that way we wouldn't need to do much but to fund the addresses respectively which makes it easier for people aswell I think.

I will contact you so we clarify a bit.

Thoughts are always appreciated, thank you for being here.

[Glucose]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

Seems good to me. I hope everything is going well for this project Andu (even if it takes time..)

[andulolika]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

Seems good to me. I hope everything is going well for this project Andu (even if it takes time..)

We have a clone made-ish and cross-compiling is slowly being done at the moment, I have no idea of a specific date but it seems fairly soon to me.

[Dank Frank]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

Seems good to me. I hope everything is going well for this project Andu (even if it takes time..)

We have a clone made-ish and cross-compiling is slowly being done at the moment, I have no idea of a specific date but it seems fairly soon to me.

So your starting from scratch now with a clam clone? What happens to the distributed darkclams in our counterwallet? Or will the distribution will be done again?

A lot of people I think have already lost acces to their counterwallet, so I hope for new distribution.

[andulolika]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

Seems good to me. I hope everything is going well for this project Andu (even if it takes time..)

We have a clone made-ish and cross-compiling is slowly being done at the moment, I have no idea of a specific date but it seems fairly soon to me.

So your starting from scratch now with a clam clone? What happens to the distributed darkclams in our counterwallet? Or will the distribution will be done again?

A lot of people I think have already lost acces to their counterwallet, so I hope for new distribution.

Whatever funds people have on XCP will be "moved" to our own chain, im gathering people with lost addresses, found 3 atm. If you lost them aswell contact me with your mail on a pm and i will add you to slack for easier communication.
Edit: And yes kinda starting from scratch, however all ideas and plans will be carefully selected and adapted as we can.
Also, I did think about making the vote again about continuing the distribution, it's going to be so easy thanks to clamour.

[Dank Frank]

Okay, we are going to launch a clone of CLAM as soon as possible, after we are on chain and we get on an exchange and some service gets up  the developer fund will be expected to fund for further developement of the project, we will take advantage of "clamour" for voting what's next.

Seems good to me. I hope everything is going well for this project Andu (even if it takes time..)

We have a clone made-ish and cross-compiling is slowly being done at the moment, I have no idea of a specific date but it seems fairly soon to me.

So your starting from scratch now with a clam clone? What happens to the distributed darkclams in our counterwallet? Or will the distribution will be done again?

A lot of people I think have already lost acces to their counterwallet, so I hope for new distribution.

Whatever funds people have on XCP will be "moved" to our own chain, im gathering people with lost addresses, found 3 atm. If you lost them aswell contact me with your mail on a pm and i will add you to slack for easier communication.
Edit: And yes kinda starting from scratch, however all ideas and plans will be carefully selected and adapted as we can.
Also, I did think about making the vote again about continuing the distribution, it's going to be so easy thanks to clamour.

Luckily I still have acces to my counterwallet, but I wagered a lot more on JD since last distribution so was kinda hoping for the continuing distribution. Will vote for that for sure. 

[kurcelis]

How are things going?

[andulolika]

How are things going?

We are on the verge of being on chain, I have a while waiting for the developer to give me everything so I expect it soon, time keeps passing and it's so frustrating but slowly we getting there.
After we start having a bit of activity it should be easier to find more developers willing to contribute.

[Ampex]

Dark clam was distributed in same way as just clam

[andulolika]

Dark clam was distributed in same way as just clam

Lol, just clam...
Kind of, the distribution CLAM had is a bit more complex than ours.
We took advantage of having the tokens on XCP so we re-created the supply on our own chain and we use bitcoin addresses so we know who are the holders and their respective balance.
I feel like I'm repeating myself....
I will get back/update after I rest a bit and get things straight.

[andulolika]

Hi everyone, just letting you all know that we are basically on our own chain, I've been going thru a lot and learning life hence my time here has been shortened drastically so things have been very slow but by my fault this time.
I appologize and wish to remember that I will never never leave this untill I die.

[kurcelis]

Any good news?

[andulolika]

Any good news?

Life been hitting hard on me lately, I will start focusing on my work/studies and that means I will also be able to start focusing more on cryptocurrencies which means I feel shit is finally going to start getting done around, slowly but firmly, I learned a lot and without this knowledge I would of failed 1000 times without knowing why... I want to thank everyone that was involved and giving me a reason to keep doing whatever I was doing, I'm certain much more could of been done if I were realistic instead of dreaming but now I see a chance to change things in a good way and it's everything i ever dreamed of I'm extremely grateful for all the chances I were given, thank you all! I'm sick of making promises so just expect shit to start getting done.

[gordob]

Any good news?

Life been hitting hard on me lately, I will start focusing on my work/studies and that means I will also be able to start focusing more on cryptocurrencies which means I feel shit is finally going to start getting done around, slowly but firmly, I learned a lot and without this knowledge I would of failed 1000 times without knowing why... I want to thank everyone that was involved and giving me a reason to keep doing whatever I was doing, I'm certain much more could of been done if I were realistic instead of dreaming but now I see a chance to change things in a good way and it's everything i ever dreamed of I'm extremely grateful for all the chances I were given, thank you all! I'm sick of making promises so just expect shit to start getting done.

All good Andu -)

[zazarb]

No, not good,  already  month Andu offline and stopped communicate

[marilyn4325]

Any news on this project? I might have some more time now, so I could work on it again and try to implement a first version. Might need a bit longer, but should be possible for me to work on weekends on it and clone some existing coin and add some features (I would really like to have integrated gambling instead of traditional mining or PoS), maybe finished until August.

[marilyn4325]

Basic ideas of the coin:

1. fixed number of coins
2. proof-of-stake concept (PoS), without reward, except for the transfer fees

So the idea for the integrated gambling, really simple, easy to implement:

1. you place a bet, which is recorded on the blockchain
2. a few blocks later, the hash of the block is used
3. next block, the win or loss is transferred, which is decided by the noted hash of the previous block

Two ideas how you can win and lose coins:

1. the coins are created on win, and destroyed on loss
2. there are investors, and 1% house edge (all investors are the house)

The idea without investors could be a bit dangerous, because it is possible that someday no coins are left anymore, but this would make the coin really interesting, because the value compared to other coins on exchanges would be very interesting as well What do you think?

As previously suggested, I would clone the WAVES platform for the new coin, because it is easy to modify and very secure, because it is written in Scala (compiled to the Java-JVM), so things like buffer overflows etc. are impossible with this language.

Possible attack for the gambling algorithm: The gambler has also a lot of coins, so the probability is higher that with the PoS he creates the next block. But if the outcome doesn't win, he would just discard the block. I think this is no problem, because then just another one creates a new block, and the hash would be as random as the first one, but this time the creator doesn't care, if the gambler wins or loses, so the bet will succeed (either win or lose).

Drawback compared to online gambling sites like justdice: the bets are slower. With WAVES there is one minute per block. To avoid attacks by blockchain forks, there should be a few blocks after the bet block and the transfer block, maybe 3? This would mean every bet needs about 5 minutes. Would you still use it?

[gordob]

I like the idea... bet times would be an issue, people won't wait that time period in my opinion. What about going the AntShares route, the same theory as above could look at around 45 sec for 3 blocks?

"At present, block time of AntShares is manually limited to 15 seconds. In the future, when the latency between the billing nodes is low enough, most of the blocks are expected to be completed in 1 second. With about 100Mbit / s bandwidth and specialized hardware for cryptographic calculation, AntShares is able handle thousands of thousands of transactions per second."

[marilyn4325]

AntShares looks interesting. But might be difficult to read the source code, it is literally all Chinese to me

https://github.com/neo-project/neo/blob/master/neo/Core/Blockchain.cs

and it is written in C#, which is not well supported on Mac and Linux, unlike Java, which runs everywhere, even on Android phones. But maybe the WAVES block time can be reduced to 15 seconds or even lower, it is only a constant in the source code.

But I'm still not sure, if it is a good idea, if a win or loss creates new coins and destroys coins. Maybe using investors would be better for the coin?

[andulolika]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.
Edit: My idea before going MIA was to use the same address format as bitcoin, so people could use their XCP to get to their DCs, since a while I keept listening to people bitching about how big their blockchain got, plan now would be to get a clam clone with the bitcoin address format if possible AND we need a new compression method for the chain, I downloaded cracked games that went from 7 gb to over 20 after instalation so im wondering if that couldnt be done with our chain aswell.

[andulolika]

I need to know how many of you lost access to your XCP accounts since you will use the same private key of the corresponding BTC private key of the address holding the token. If you want a different address for the distribution than what you had on xcp you need to contact me privatelu.

[marilyn4325]

I found some old Bitcoins, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2637884.msg26850063 , will have some more time now to work on Darkclam. It is not dead yet, it just smells funny

[marilyn4325]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.

Cool, you are back, too. What do you think about integrating gambling into the blockchain itself, with the possibility to create and destroy coins by gambling?

[andulolika]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.

Cool, you are back, too. What do you think about integrating gambling into the blockchain itself, with the possibility to create and destroy coins by gambling?

You don't know how glad I'm to see you, I like the idea itself, and with the coin's being destroyed on loss it would be really interesting to see how the value increases. On the other hand I really love the idea to let community decide stuff thru voting, whatever is we agree on is what our goal become, there is plenty of stuff that can be done at long term, if you get onto slack I'll let you know the latest thing I had in mind .
Edit: We actually have a DC wallet done, a clam clone with same address format as bitcoin, however I kinda fucked up losing access to my 1anduis address, I think we just need another genesis block and perhaps a node, can have pc on all day tho.

[CoinMenX]

Anyone still around? I lost access to this account (and I still have no access but seems that it stayed logged on this pc) besides that my life has turned around a bit. We still have over 10% of the supply for developement purposes and I have few fresh innovative ideas so we still searching for developers.
Edit: My idea before going MIA was to use the same address format as bitcoin, so people could use their XCP to get to their DCs, since a while I keept listening to people bitching about how big their blockchain got, plan now would be to get a clam clone with the bitcoin address format if possible AND we need a new compression method for the chain, I downloaded cracked games that went from 7 gb to over 20 after instalation so im wondering if that couldnt be done with our chain aswell.

bro project is coming back now?

[andulolika]

Yes, a clone of waves is running on testnet, dunno for how long but we are definetly settled .

[DocHouse.io]

MAKE DC GREAT AGAIN!

[yaroslavskoll]

Really interesting distribution scheme! Good luck.

[kurcelis]

How is the progress of the DC? Can't wait to hear about next news.