stingleword
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June 22, 2016, 04:13:04 PM |
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Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.
There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch. A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw. Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway. You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?
Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet.
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 04:16:09 PM |
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Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.
There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch. A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw. Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway. You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?
Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet. You are one dumb fuck retard. Its 100% their fault. It does affect everyone involved and for you to say "MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone" is over the top wrong. They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that. I'm done with you.
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AcoinL.L.C
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June 22, 2016, 04:18:30 PM |
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Good luck with that investment. I'm sure you'll regret it soon.
There's no need to be a snarky asshole about it. We get it, you had a bad experience withdrawing. Move on, the rest of us have been using MoneyPot for years and are not put off by such a small glitch. A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw. Actually, getting hit with a DDoS isn't a glitch at all, it's a malicious attack that the host cannot control or prevent. Blaming MoneyPot for a DDoS attack against them is like blaming your local grocery store for the graffiti that appeared on their back wall. It's not their fault, doesn't actually interfere with their business much, and really isn't their responsibility to fix anyway. You have never operated a web host or web service. I can tell, because you are upset at someone for something they have no control over. Several people tried to be kind and gently explain that this type of attack is not something that you simply "pay to fix". Even the worlds' finest backbones and strongest protections cannot totally prevent the effects of a DDoS from spilling over into the user experience. It is simply unreasonable to expect any business to have 100% uptime or to have downtimes shorter than an arbitrary length. Nobody in the world, not Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, or Donald Trump, is capable of preventing a DDoS, and all of them are only able to mitigate one as well as the premier services in the industry do it - namely, the one MoneyPot is already paying for.I will not be kind. Your attitude stinks and you need a verbal smackdown. By demanding that MoneyPot do more than they have concerning the DDoS, you are being an unreasonable customer that any sane business would refuse service to. MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone and the fact that you've gotten what you have so far is a privilege, not a right, and MoneyPot is very well within their capability to take your money and close your account. They didn't do that, so shut the fuck up and piss off.You do know that moneypot has been under new ownership for the last 6 months. RIGHT?
Yes, and I also know that MoneyPot suffered a severe DDoS attack when it was still under Ryan's ownership that caused the system to be offline for an extended period of time. That wasn't his fault then any more than it is DD's fault today. If you don't like using services that could potentially be brought down by DDoS attacks, then don't use the Internet. I disagree in that it is within our right to take his money, however if he is this unhappy we would gladly close his account (I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually have an account with us). Please send me proof of ownership of an account and we can withdrawal any balance you have remaining on the site. All I can suggest is that people hit the "ignore" button under this guys name, he has been trolling my posts throughout the forum. His account is nothing more than a sockpuppet for Let It Ride (which is almost certainly a scam), even in best case scenario Let It Ride is a terrible investment for people, no one on this forum seems to understand opportunity cost.
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stingleword
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June 22, 2016, 04:20:21 PM |
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I disagree in that it is within our right to take his money, however if he is this unhappy we would gladly close his account (I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually have an account with us). Please send me proof of ownership of an account and we can withdrawal any balance you have remaining on the site.
All I can suggest is that people hit the "ignore" button under this guys name, he has been trolling my posts throughout the forum. His account is nothing more than a sockpuppet for Let It Ride (which is almost certainly a scam), even in best case scenario Let It Ride is a terrible investment for people, no one on this forum seems to understand opportunity cost.
I didn't say it's within your right, I said it's within your capability. I don't think the MoneyPot team even considers it an option.
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 04:21:50 PM |
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You keep slandering other projects, and think that you come out looking good? GET YOUR FUCKING SITE WORKING WITHOUT INTERUPTION FOR 24 HOURS FIRST. Then you can worry about other projects.
Sounds normal to me!
I don't know any owners who when in a crisis spend all their time talking about other projects and proclaiming that they have everything under control.
FIX YOUR SHIT!
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erwin45hacked
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June 22, 2016, 04:23:04 PM |
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They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.
I'm done with you.
You are free to take your money elsewhere and stop being hostile here. No one is stopping you from taking your money away so please do that and leave in peace, this thread has been messy with the DDOS attack information and you being hostile here is not really helping the situation to be better
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 04:24:42 PM |
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They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.
I'm done with you.
You are free to take your money elsewhere and stop being hostile here. No one is stopping you from taking your money away so please do that and leave in peace, this thread has been messy with the DDOS attack information and you being hostile here is not really helping the situation to be better Maybe if the owner of the site tried less to discredit me and more to fix the problems his site is having I'd be a little calmer.
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June 22, 2016, 04:28:35 PM |
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A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.
I'm not going to join in on this useless arguments,trash talks,fud or w.e people call it. So this is just an FYI for everyone. The reason why moneypot has been goin down was from a sophisticated DDoS attack, and this is NOT a 'fatal flaw' of moneypot or any other site, this is a flaw of the internet and how the internet works. There is literally no 100% way to stop a sophisticated DDoS attack. Even this forum had a share of its DDoS attack issues in the past. Even largest sites such as Google or Facebook gets DDosed from time to time. If anyone has a way to fully stop 100% a DDoS attack, he'd be rich. -uni UPDATE: Looks like the attack has subsided. Both https://www.moneypot.com/ and https://blog.moneypot.com/ are loading fine. But please be informed that the attack may come back any time.
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stingleword
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June 22, 2016, 04:33:48 PM |
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You are one dumb fuck retard. Its 100% their fault. It does affect everyone involved and for you to say "MoneyPot is under no obligation to provide timely service to anyone" is over the top wrong. They are the bitches and us investors are the owners. Remember that.
I'm done with you.
Congratulations, you have hit the bottom of the decency barrel. Any respect for you as a human that I had previously retained in my interactions with you has now been quashed and replaced with a heavy sense of schadenfreude. I do not pity you, because pity would bring me down. No, I point and laugh at your incompetence. If you have money in MoneyPot that you're having trouble getting out, the owners have already offered to process a withdrawal manually for you. You haven't done that, and therefore you have no plank upon which to place the soapbox you wish to stand upon. One cannot feel pity for the man who is only slapping himself. Problems can be solved. Complaints cannot. You're complaining. Cheese off. Unrelated: Let It Ride is a well-known card game available in most popular casinos. It also has a terrible house edge (3.51%).
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 04:34:25 PM |
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A small glitch? Getting annihilated by a DDos attack is not a small glitch. Its a fatal flaw.
I'm not going to join in on this useless arguments,trash talks,fud or w.e people call it. So this is just an FYI for everyone. The reason why moneypot has been goin down was from a sophisticated DDoS attack, and this is NOT a 'fatal flaw' of moneypot or any other site, this is a flaw of the internet and how the internet works. There is literally no 100% way to stop a sophisticated DDoS attack. Even this forum had a share of its DDoS attack issues in the past. Even largest sites such as Google or Facebook gets DDosed from time to time. If anyone has a way to fully stop 100% a DDoS attack, he'd be rich. -uni You really need to consider firing Acoin. He only makes your site look childish with the way he attends to problems. And while you do handle yourself much better you're also trying to put the blame on others and trying to tell me that FB or google gets DDos and goes down for days at a time? I have NEVER once tried to log into FB or search on google and was unable to. NEVER The forum yes. But they always fixed it right away and down time was minimal. If you cant get back up then this DDos can turn into a fatal flaw. You don't think Bittreex and poloniex get's attacked? They do. But they very rarely go down because of it. Please fix your site and make the investors proud by firing Acoin. He is only holding you guys back. Trust me!
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stingleword
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June 22, 2016, 04:37:59 PM |
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ANDDDDDDDD. IGNORE.
The irony here is I had to un-ignore you to read this reply. MoneyPot is back up, go withdraw your money before someone else points and laughs too.
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MillionsBTCdev
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June 22, 2016, 04:58:53 PM |
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You really need to consider firing Acoin. He only makes your site look childish with the way he attends to problems. And while you do handle yourself much better you're also trying to put the blame on others and trying to tell me that FB or google gets DDos and goes down for days at a time? I have NEVER once tried to log into FB or search on google and was unable to. NEVER
The forum yes. But they always fixed it right away and down time was minimal. If you cant get back up then this DDos can turn into a fatal flaw. You don't think Bittreex and poloniex get's attacked? They do. But they very rarely go down because of it.
Please fix your site and make the investors proud by firing Acoin. He is only holding you guys back. Trust me!
You must have misunderstood me, I'm not blaming others for this sad event, and i apologize if that is what you understood. All im saying is that, DDoS attack is not a flaw in a way that any site can get DDoSed, no site is exempted from it. Moneypot has not gone down for days at a time. The longest time Moneypot was down is during the the ownership transfer last December and last May 26th which was a scheduled maintenance for 12hrs. During the attack,the servers of moneypot is set to auto restart when it fails,and this has happened many times. Also during this attack, there where times when i had to put down the server to update and add security measures, but this down time was only for a few minutes and not even hours. I would assume that the 'down' term you are referring at was because you where not able to open/access the website and you get some cloudflare errors, this does not literally mean that servers are down or offline, it just meant that there was a huge number requests on the server, that your request was not processed therefor giving you an error. As ive updated on my other previous posts, the attack has subsided, and anyone can freely withdraw their funds if they feel to do so. And just a precaution, https://blog.moneypot.com is still up and can also be used to withdraw your funds. If anyone would like to contact me for technical concerns, im available at uni@moneypot.com, or at the discord channel https://discord.gg/011aeZCV0eln38t7vThanks -uni
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Daffadile
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June 22, 2016, 07:56:21 PM |
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Forget upgrade speeds and crap. Get better security.
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AcoinL.L.C
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June 22, 2016, 08:05:03 PM |
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Forget upgrade speeds and crap. Get better security.
And yet one more LIR troll. Unbelievable. Ignored and left negative trust. For the non trolls, DDoS attacks are not something you can prevent from happening, all you can do is make it more difficult for the attacker.
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 08:06:50 PM |
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Forget upgrade speeds and crap. Get better security.
And yet one more LIR troll. Unbelievable. Ignored and left negative trust. For the non trolls, DDoS attacks are not something you can prevent from happening, all you can do is make it more difficult for the attacker. So everyone who has a problem with moneypot is now a LIR troll? You are the WORST business owner I ever spoke to and I HOPE and PREY that the attacks continue until you are forced to go bankrupt.
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AcoinL.L.C
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June 22, 2016, 08:08:40 PM |
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Forget upgrade speeds and crap. Get better security.
And yet one more LIR troll. Unbelievable. Ignored and left negative trust. For the non trolls, DDoS attacks are not something you can prevent from happening, all you can do is make it more difficult for the attacker. So everyone who has a problem with moneypot is now a LIR troll? You are the WORST business owner I ever spoke to and I HOPE and PREY that the attacks continue until you are forced to go bankrupt. Do you realize how easy it is to see the post history of people that comment on things? You are clearly a troll, as is Daffadile.
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b0art
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June 22, 2016, 08:11:35 PM |
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Forget upgrade speeds and crap. Get better security.
And yet one more LIR troll. Unbelievable. Ignored and left negative trust. For the non trolls, DDoS attacks are not something you can prevent from happening, all you can do is make it more difficult for the attacker. So everyone who has a problem with moneypot is now a LIR troll? You are the WORST business owner I ever spoke to and I HOPE and PREY that the attacks continue until you are forced to go bankrupt. Do you realize how easy it is to see the post history of people that comment on things? You are clearly a troll, as is Daffadile. Like I said, I hope the attacks continue!
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June 22, 2016, 08:48:18 PM |
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You keep slandering other projects, and think that you come out looking good? GET YOUR FUCKING SITE WORKING WITHOUT INTERUPTION FOR 24 HOURS FIRST. Then you can worry about other projects.
Sounds normal to me!
I don't know any owners who when in a crisis spend all their time talking about other projects and proclaiming that they have everything under control.
FIX YOUR SHIT!
Welcome to my ignore list Ass Clown. You are the first on my list, so congrats on that. To everyone else: this guy is clearly shilling, for something. The best you can do is just ignore him: he does quite a good job on his own making himself look ridiculous. Let him do all the heavy lifting himself.
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June 24, 2016, 07:59:48 AM |
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Is the website already fine? I just want to know before I will invest again, I know this investment will give the investors good profit but with low security on the attackers we don't want to risk our hard earned money here.
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June 24, 2016, 08:11:32 AM |
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Is the website already fine? I just want to know before I will invest again, I know this investment will give the investors good profit but with low security on the attackers we don't want to risk our hard earned money here.
You are not reading anything it seems, it was a DDOS attack and no matter how hard the attack is your money is still secured, the site has cloudflare as well however the attacker breaks through it. The only thing that will goes down is the site however even at some point any DDOS attack will stop.
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