Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

[bryant.coleman]

Just to keep it short : if latest news are real seems like Edward Snowden revealation unveiled a "conspiracy" againt at that time Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi (which Italians had voted and put there where he was) that brought him to be dismissed (because he didn't want to submit to strict constraints and commitments that Sarkozy and Merkle wanted Italy to keep) and to be substituted by the more welcome from EU = ( Merkel and Sarko).

The conspiracy was to remove the pro-Russian leaders in the European Union, and it was hatched in the Pentagon. If you remember, Berlusconi was not the only leader to be removed. Around the same time, pro-Russian Gerhard Schröder was replaced with anti-Russian and American puppet Angela Merkel, and the pro-Russian Nicolas Sarkozy was replaced with the pro-NATO François Hollande.

[craked5]

Just to keep it short : if latest news are real seems like Edward Snowden revealation unveiled a "conspiracy" againt at that time Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi (which Italians had voted and put there where he was) that brought him to be dismissed (because he didn't want to submit to strict constraints and commitments that Sarkozy and Merkle wanted Italy to keep) and to be substituted by the more welcome from EU = ( Merkel and Sarko).

The conspiracy was to remove the pro-Russian leaders in the European Union, and it was hatched in the Pentagon. If you remember, Berlusconi was not the only leader to be removed. Around the same time, pro-Russian Gerhard Schröder was replaced with anti-Russian and American puppet Angela Merkel, and the pro-Russian Nicolas Sarkozy was replaced with the pro-NATO François Hollande.

AHAHAHAHAH xD

OMG! You keep adding BS after BS...
You're "pro-Russian" Sarkozy is the first president of France who accepted to integer back NATO xD

So where is your argument now? You really don't care about truth and reality do you?

[craked5]

Just to keep it short : if latest news are real seems like Edward Snowden revealation unveiled a "conspiracy" againt at that time Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi (which Italians had voted and put there where he was) that brought him to be dismissed (because he didn't want to submit to strict constraints and commitments that Sarkozy and Merkle wanted Italy to keep) and to be substituted by the more welcome from EU = ( Merkel and Sarko).

The conspiracy was to remove the pro-Russian leaders in the European Union, and it was hatched in the Pentagon. If you remember, Berlusconi was not the only leader to be removed. Around the same time, pro-Russian Gerhard Schröder was replaced with anti-Russian and American puppet Angela Merkel, and the pro-Russian Nicolas Sarkozy was replaced with the pro-NATO François Hollande.

And here are some small things Hollande did with Russia:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/26/putin-meets-hollande-france-and-russia-getting-closer.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34931378

Yeah he's really against Russian that's for sure

[coinzat]

- UK EU exit would be global economy 'shock' - G20 leaders

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35677385

So is it going to be a new 2008 global economic crises or they are just exaggerating and nothing will happen

[tmfp]

- UK EU exit would be global economy 'shock' - G20 leaders

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35677385

So is it going to be a new 2008 global economic crises or they are just exaggerating and nothing will happen

The Brits pushed hard for it to be included on the list of woes at the last minute because Osborne and Carney are both pro stay in.
In the global scheme of things it's pretty minor.

[trickyriky]

- UK EU exit would be global economy 'shock' - G20 leaders

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35677385

So is it going to be a new 2008 global economic crises or they are just exaggerating and nothing will happen

The Brits pushed hard for it to be included on the list of woes at the last minute because Osborne and Carney are both pro stay in.
In the global scheme of things it's pretty minor.

the in campaign are seriously clutching at straws, i can not wait to see if they tell us the results honestly and pull us out of europe, or if they try to rig it and kick off a civil war, we are leaving no 2 ways about the matter

[tmfp]

- UK EU exit would be global economy 'shock' - G20 leaders

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35677385

So is it going to be a new 2008 global economic crises or they are just exaggerating and nothing will happen

The Brits pushed hard for it to be included on the list of woes at the last minute because Osborne and Carney are both pro stay in.
In the global scheme of things it's pretty minor.

the in campaign are seriously clutching at straws, i can not wait to see if they tell us the results honestly and pull us out of europe, or if they try to rig it and kick off a civil war, we are leaving no 2 ways about the matter

Betting odds are 2/1 in favor of staying in atm.
Whether that will reflect in the result depends on how many stay ins bother to vote. That's why the pro camp pushed for the inclusion on that list, dire warnings of economic chaos might have some effect on turnout.
The only people who have strong opinions in my experience are antis, who generally believe coming out will "Make Britain Great Again" or some such bollocks.
It's a Xenophobia poll as much as anything, the economic effects are incalculable.

[trickyriky]

- UK EU exit would be global economy 'shock' - G20 leaders

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35677385

So is it going to be a new 2008 global economic crises or they are just exaggerating and nothing will happen

The Brits pushed hard for it to be included on the list of woes at the last minute because Osborne and Carney are both pro stay in.
In the global scheme of things it's pretty minor.

the in campaign are seriously clutching at straws, i can not wait to see if they tell us the results honestly and pull us out of europe, or if they try to rig it and kick off a civil war, we are leaving no 2 ways about the matter

Betting odds are 2/1 in favor of staying in atm.
Whether that will reflect in the result depends on how many stay ins bother to vote. That's why the pro camp pushed for the inclusion on that list, dire warnings of economic chaos might have some effect on turnout.
The only people who have strong opinions in my experience are antis, who generally believe coming out will "Make Britain Great Again" or some such bollocks.
It's a Xenophobia poll as much as anything, the economic effects are incalculable.

the reality is, if we leave things in general will stay pretty much about the same as it is now, hopefully with a little policy adjustment to reign in the old bill and councils etc, but if we stay things are going to go 100x worse in no time flat, they will force us into the shengen zone and force us to take the euro which will remove our currency as the globes strongest currency which screws us over royally on the world stage, then in October turkey joins the shengen zone which is full of eastern migrants whose culture does not match ours in any way shape or form, look at saudi arabia its common knowledge that women there are possessions, they are not even allowed to walk the streets without a male escort (assuming this is to protect them from the perceived rape culture, which i also assume is how they stop the women from wearing the trousers so to speak lol)  men have multiple wives who all worship husband. if we stay do you honestly think they will give up their cultures and ways of life to fit in with what we are told is civilization? i know i dont, and im not living with their culture, neither should anybody else assuming we all want to keep our so called "civilization"

we need out we really do

[designerusa]

Yeh I don't really care EU is bad for us anyway, at least the British people are smart.
I think they where the only ones who could actually vote to accept the euro or not.
And they chose to not even use the Euro and look at the gbp now still higher then euro's or dollars!

So them leaving europa seems like a logical choice for them since they aren't even using the Euro.

EU is probably the best thing that was made in last centuries, problem is that people don't care about it and are too dumb to see the real problems. They keep talking about immigration and their little petty problems...

exactly.. agreed.. europeen union is too dumb to see  its crucial problems and they will screw it up in near future.. nothing more to say .. we will see..

[bryant.coleman]

exactly.. agreed.. europeen union is too dumb to see  its crucial problems and they will screw it up in near future.. nothing more to say .. we will see..

The European Union in its original format was a good idea. But in due course of time, it became just another tool for Germany to dominate the smaller nations such as Slovakia and Hungary. The earlier EU, which was similar to the ASEAN and the African Union was doing well. But then, some people thought that taking away powers from the member nations and asking them to obey the EU laws and regulations would be a good idea.

[tmfp]

the in campaign are seriously clutching at straws, i can not wait to see if they tell us the results honestly and pull us out of europe, or if they try to rig it and kick off a civil war, we are leaving no 2 ways about the matter

Betting odds are 2/1 in favor of staying in atm.
Whether that will reflect in the result depends on how many stay ins bother to vote. That's why the pro camp pushed for the inclusion on that list, dire warnings of economic chaos might have some effect on turnout.
The only people who have strong opinions in my experience are antis, who generally believe coming out will "Make Britain Great Again" or some such bollocks.
It's a Xenophobia poll as much as anything, the economic effects are incalculable.

the reality is.....snip<paranoid stuff about foreigners>snip

we need out we really do

That's quite a common view in the UK these days, the isolationists UKIP got about 3.8 million votes out of 30 million cast in the 2015 General Election, when 2 out of 3 entitled to actually voted.
If that 3.8 million vote 'out' and are joined by say half the 12 million Tory voters, then a low turnout would probably swing it. Rule Britannia.

There is no actual legal obligation for the Government to do anything as a result of the referendum. A close call would be quite a problem, especially for a neocon government whose leader wants to stay in.

force us to take the euro which will remove our currency as the globes strongest currency

When people say stuff like this......

[trickyriky]

the in campaign are seriously clutching at straws, i can not wait to see if they tell us the results honestly and pull us out of europe, or if they try to rig it and kick off a civil war, we are leaving no 2 ways about the matter

Betting odds are 2/1 in favor of staying in atm.
Whether that will reflect in the result depends on how many stay ins bother to vote. That's why the pro camp pushed for the inclusion on that list, dire warnings of economic chaos might have some effect on turnout.
The only people who have strong opinions in my experience are antis, who generally believe coming out will "Make Britain Great Again" or some such bollocks.
It's a Xenophobia poll as much as anything, the economic effects are incalculable.

the reality is, if we leave things in general will stay pretty much about the same as it is now, hopefully with a little policy adjustment to reign in the old bill and councils etc, but if we stay things are going to go 100x worse in no time flat, they will force us into the shengen zone and force us to take the euro which will remove our currency as the globes strongest currency which screws us over royally on the world stage, then in October turkey joins the shengen zone which is full of eastern migrants whose culture does not match ours in any way shape or form, look at saudi arabia its common knowledge that women there are possessions, they are not even allowed to walk the streets without a male escort (assuming this is to protect them from the perceived rape culture, which i also assume is how they stop the women from wearing the trousers so to speak lol)  men have multiple wives who all worship husband. if we stay do you honestly think they will give up their cultures and ways of life to fit in with what we are told is civilization? i know i dont, and im not living with their culture, neither should anybody else assuming we all want to keep our so called "civilization"

we need out we really do

That's quite a common view in the UK these days, the isolationists UKIP got about 3.8 million votes out of 30 million cast in the 2015 General Election, when 2 out of 3 entitled to actually voted.
If that 3.8 million vote 'out' and are joined by say half the 12 million Tory voters, then a low turnout would probably swing it. Rule Britannia.

There is no actual legal obligation for the Government to do anything as a result of the referendum. A close call would be quite a problem, especially for a neocon government whose leader wants to stay in.

force us to take the euro which will remove our currency as the globes strongest currency

When people say stuff like this......

dont ever miss quote me again my learned friend, you may wish to educate yourself on the cultures being allowed access to europe, every word was fact unless you have evidence on the contrary?

[DodoB]

The UK should leave the EU unless they want to be destroyed by 3rd world country immigrants..

[criptix]

The UK should leave the EU unless they want to be destroyed by 3rd world country immigrants..

uk barely takes in refugees. what are you talking about?

oh wait sig spam

[giantdragon]

I think the UK must either accept the same rights and responsibilities other EU countries have or leave the union. No special status - it is an insult for smaller EU states!

[bryant.coleman]

The UK should leave the EU unless they want to be destroyed by 3rd world country immigrants..

The problem will be worsened if the UK leave the European Union. All the Polish and Slovak immigrants will be replaced with unskilled immigrants from Pakistan, Somalia and Bangladesh. Also, any such measure will wreck the economies of countries such as Poland, as remittances account for a significant part of the GDP.

[trickyriky]

The UK should leave the EU unless they want to be destroyed by 3rd world country immigrants..

The problem will be worsened if the UK leave the European Union. All the Polish and Slovak immigrants will be replaced with unskilled immigrants from Pakistan, Somalia and Bangladesh. Also, any such measure will wreck the economies of countries such as Poland, as remittances account for a significant part of the GDP.

no the problem will stay about the same by leaving the eu, if we stay it will get 100x worse in no time flat, mark my words we are leaving and no amount of butthurt idiots will stop us, SINK EU and sink hard

[croato]

IDK if they should leave or not, but it would be fun to watch if they do. There will be lot of shit if they really decide to go cause Scotland could leave UK in that case.

[bryant.coleman]

IDK if they should leave or not, but it would be fun to watch if they do. There will be lot of shit if they really decide to go cause Scotland could leave UK in that case.

What will Scotland do if the crude oil price remains at $35 per barrel? In the North Sea, the cost of production for a barrel of crude is somewhere around $50. Right now, they are making a loss of $15 per barrel. Very soon, hundreds of thousands of workers are going to get fired from their jobs by the oil companies. If that happens, then the Scots will think twice about independence.

no the problem will stay about the same by leaving the eu, if we stay it will get 100x worse in no time flat, mark my words we are leaving and no amount of butthurt idiots will stop us, SINK EU and sink hard

Some say that rich European nations such as the United Kingdom is having a responsibility to help the poorer ones, such as Poland and Romania. The EU is benefiting these poor countries.

[trickyriky]

IDK if they should leave or not, but it would be fun to watch if they do. There will be lot of shit if they really decide to go cause Scotland could leave UK in that case.

What will Scotland do if the crude oil price remains at $35 per barrel? In the North Sea, the cost of production for a barrel of crude is somewhere around $50. Right now, they are making a loss of $15 per barrel. Very soon, hundreds of thousands of workers are going to get fired from their jobs by the oil companies. If that happens, then the Scots will think twice about independence.

no the problem will stay about the same by leaving the eu, if we stay it will get 100x worse in no time flat, mark my words we are leaving and no amount of butthurt idiots will stop us, SINK EU and sink hard

Some say that rich European nations such as the United Kingdom is having a responsibility to help the poorer ones, such as Poland and Romania. The EU is benefiting these poor countries.

dude im english, im technically poor the eu is not my problem, never wanted any part of it, never will its not as if they are feeding watering or clothing me, im left with that responsibility, yet the criminal eu are responsible for my living expenses raising by min x5 in the last 5 year alone we are leaving no doubt about it