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June 04, 2017, 06:35:48 PM |
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I have some questions:
Is there any difference in reward depending on which node you lease your waves to? What benefit does the node have from the event that I lease my waves to it? Is there some minimal amount you have to lease to get rewards? How often do rewards come?
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June 04, 2017, 07:03:06 PM |
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I have some questions:
Is there any difference in reward depending on which node you lease your waves to? What benefit does the node have from the event that I lease my waves to it? Is there some minimal amount you have to lease to get rewards? How often do rewards come?
http://www.wavesgo.com/mining.html
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June 04, 2017, 07:36:15 PM |
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Hello. Where can I find a signature bounty topic ?
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June 04, 2017, 07:58:40 PM |
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Amazing news feeling good to know about this so that I can recommend this for those who are still thinking to buy this token so go ahead and buy more before it move to the mars in August. I kinda prefer the Pleiades star system myself but whatever planetary place WAVES lands on I will be happy with holding my stash. It pays to hard core bag hold such prestigious tokens such as WAVES. I might need to buy a few more before the INVESTMENT BANK launches. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . POLO is losing such a lot of volume not listing WAVES yet. If I lease my WAVES, I have say 230 WAVES to lease, will I earn more Waves by leasing them?
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June 04, 2017, 08:26:08 PM |
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@ up
theoretically yes but in real from just only 230 waves coins you can wait months for any reward for leasing. Check minimal payout when leasing - it can be set up for 1 waves or other and you never collect this minimal reward to take it. But you can vote and have wallet offline I mean for leasing no need have online wallet its not like PoS.
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June 04, 2017, 08:27:47 PM |
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Amazing news feeling good to know about this so that I can recommend this for those who are still thinking to buy this token so go ahead and buy more before it move to the mars in August. I kinda prefer the Pleiades star system myself but whatever planetary place WAVES lands on I will be happy with holding my stash. It pays to hard core bag hold such prestigious tokens such as WAVES. I might need to buy a few more before the INVESTMENT BANK launches. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . POLO is losing such a lot of volume not listing WAVES yet. If I lease my WAVES, I have say 230 WAVES to lease, will I earn more Waves by leasing them? Yes. It's not a lot atm, should increase if wvs blockchain is used by more people.
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June 04, 2017, 08:43:08 PM |
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Great! Road to Waves 1.0
Almost a year has passed since the launch of Waves project, decentralized Waves network exists since around 7 month, it’s still very young but we might say that the initial stage of the network bootstrapping is over. It’s time to move on to a more mature network, which can handle many more transactions and provide more advanced features such as smart contracts. This will be our Waves 1.0, robust and secure open blockchain network ready for “real world” applications.
How are we going to achieve this? What would the milestones be?
First off we’re going to start implementing an adaptation of Bitcoin NG approach to Proof of Stake systems, suggested by Dmitry Meshkov. In classical NG approach a miner generates so-called keyblock, which contains no transactions, and through this she obtains the right to generate “microblocks”, containing transactions. She can place incoming transactions into the microblocks and push them into the network until a new keyblock is generated.
In Proof of Stake systems we can take a slightly different approach: miner can update a block she generates with a new transactions, and push a new UPDATE transaction with new data into the network, since block generation is “cheap” in POS systems (in POW you can’t do that, you would need to solve the block again, expending your computational resource).
This (combined with increasing the block size) will allow us to handle thousands of transactions per minute, without giving up on the network decentralization. Combined with cheap transaction fees it will make Waves network suitable for applications requiring really high throughput, and will make Waves network really unique in this regard.
After that we’ll implement the state storage optimization proposal from Reyzin, Chepurnoy, Meshkov which is based on authenticated data structure approach. It allows a user not to store balances in all different assets issued on the network, but store only the balances in assets which are of interest to her. At the same time a node can still verify all transactions in all assets.
State storage is a big problem, which is probably more severe than blockchain bloat problem, since state is a dynamic structure which has to be stored in memory for fast transactions verification. If you have many tokens storage can take up more space than the blockchain itself. Waves is a network based on tokens, anyone can issue a token for just 1 wave. So we need to have a scalability solution to make it really efficient.
Afterwards we’ll turn to implementing smart contracts on Waves chain. Business logic put onto the blockchain is absolutely necessary for the success of any blockchain system that present itself as a “platform”, that is a full-blown complete ecosystem where users can get all the features they want.
We have our own approach regarding smart contracts. You will be able to run smart contracts for a price of a normal transactions, without any additional “gas” or other costs. This is a more direct generalization of Bitcoin scripting, non-Turing complete zero-knowledge proof based language which can handle most of use cases of what Turing complete languages can do.
And on top of that you get many additional improvements, such as transaction anonymization and multisignature transactions. When imlemented properly this approach will provide a much higher security guarantees than Turing complete approach can provide. It is much better suited to real world applications of open blockchains than any other existing approach.
Parallel to that there will be very many developments on the business side, but that should probably be described in another post. I’d like to highlight introduction of new fiat and crypto gateways, more streamlined DEX interface, and a compliant token crowd-investing platform Tokenomica.com
Once we have Waves 1.0 done and ready we’ll move on to even more interesting stuff! Many ideas are flying around — Lightning networks, anonymous order books, lite clients and side chains. It will be getting more and more exciting as we move further on!
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June 04, 2017, 09:34:35 PM |
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Gentlemen why couples on dex do not work? It is already a couple of hours ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV2vPjy0.png&t=665&c=vgmGb7FGoPcQAw)
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June 04, 2017, 09:38:10 PM |
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Gentlemen why couples on dex do not work? It is already a couple of hours ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV2vPjy0.png&t=665&c=vgmGb7FGoPcQAw) It's working on my side. Maybe it's your internet connection? Restart your modem? Restart your computer and then restart your Waves client. I can select any pair I like right now....
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June 04, 2017, 09:40:42 PM |
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Great! Road to Waves 1.0
Almost a year has passed since the launch of Waves project, decentralized Waves network exists since around 7 month, it’s still very young but we might say that the initial stage of the network bootstrapping is over. It’s time to move on to a more mature network, which can handle many more transactions and provide more advanced features such as smart contracts. This will be our Waves 1.0, robust and secure open blockchain network ready for “real world” applications.
How are we going to achieve this? What would the milestones be?
First off we’re going to start implementing an adaptation of Bitcoin NG approach to Proof of Stake systems, suggested by Dmitry Meshkov. In classical NG approach a miner generates so-called keyblock, which contains no transactions, and through this she obtains the right to generate “microblocks”, containing transactions. She can place incoming transactions into the microblocks and push them into the network until a new keyblock is generated.
In Proof of Stake systems we can take a slightly different approach: miner can update a block she generates with a new transactions, and push a new UPDATE transaction with new data into the network, since block generation is “cheap” in POS systems (in POW you can’t do that, you would need to solve the block again, expending your computational resource).
This (combined with increasing the block size) will allow us to handle thousands of transactions per minute, without giving up on the network decentralization. Combined with cheap transaction fees it will make Waves network suitable for applications requiring really high throughput, and will make Waves network really unique in this regard.
After that we’ll implement the state storage optimization proposal from Reyzin, Chepurnoy, Meshkov which is based on authenticated data structure approach. It allows a user not to store balances in all different assets issued on the network, but store only the balances in assets which are of interest to her. At the same time a node can still verify all transactions in all assets.
State storage is a big problem, which is probably more severe than blockchain bloat problem, since state is a dynamic structure which has to be stored in memory for fast transactions verification. If you have many tokens storage can take up more space than the blockchain itself. Waves is a network based on tokens, anyone can issue a token for just 1 wave. So we need to have a scalability solution to make it really efficient.
Afterwards we’ll turn to implementing smart contracts on Waves chain. Business logic put onto the blockchain is absolutely necessary for the success of any blockchain system that present itself as a “platform”, that is a full-blown complete ecosystem where users can get all the features they want.
We have our own approach regarding smart contracts. You will be able to run smart contracts for a price of a normal transactions, without any additional “gas” or other costs. This is a more direct generalization of Bitcoin scripting, non-Turing complete zero-knowledge proof based language which can handle most of use cases of what Turing complete languages can do.
And on top of that you get many additional improvements, such as transaction anonymization and multisignature transactions. When imlemented properly this approach will provide a much higher security guarantees than Turing complete approach can provide. It is much better suited to real world applications of open blockchains than any other existing approach.
Parallel to that there will be very many developments on the business side, but that should probably be described in another post. I’d like to highlight introduction of new fiat and crypto gateways, more streamlined DEX interface, and a compliant token crowd-investing platform Tokenomica.com
Once we have Waves 1.0 done and ready we’ll move on to even more interesting stuff! Many ideas are flying around — Lightning networks, anonymous order books, lite clients and side chains. It will be getting more and more exciting as we move further on!
Great things await us ! I agree. This is such an exciting and inspiring vision laid out by Sasha. To me it emphasizes the fact that Waves will deserve to stand shoulder to shoulder with Ethereum or any other platform. There is no need to displace anything. Waves will grow into something powerful and revolutionary in its own right. We've only just begun. But the potential is more than clear.
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June 04, 2017, 09:42:06 PM |
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Gentlemen why couples on dex do not work? It is already a couple of hours ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV2vPjy0.png&t=665&c=vgmGb7FGoPcQAw) It's working on my side. Maybe it's your internet connection? Restart your modem? Restart your computer and then restart your Waves client. I can select any pair I like right now.... Thanks for the advice. I already check as you wrote
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June 04, 2017, 09:49:39 PM |
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If search lists don`t work, paste token ids on Bitcoin or Waves side, you can find them under details button in portfolio, you may need to paste it twice
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June 04, 2017, 10:14:20 PM |
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Wavesplatform Community Telegram passes 2000 members! Come join in the fun https://t.me/Wavescommunity
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June 04, 2017, 10:17:19 PM |
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If search lists don`t work, paste token ids on Bitcoin or Waves side, you can find them under details button in portfolio, you may need to paste it twice
Thank you mxxxxxx. I remember you from the Fibre project ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 04, 2017, 11:27:21 PM |
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Could someone please tell me if the mobilego tokens that where air dropped on waves are fake or not
yes fake token. thank you
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June 04, 2017, 11:47:20 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicadump.com%2Fpictures%2Fbitcoin%2Ftokenomica1.png&t=665&c=-hNGwKlk2NmjZQ) That's great news! Was expecting this but was waiting for the announcement ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This will be a hot summer for Waves, with all the updates and features coming! And on Slack they always said: we won't be "wasting" funds on promoting Waves before we have something to promote. Right now, we have a signature bounty so there must be something to promote ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) this is great news. stıll holdıng waves untıll 100 dolars even ıt reaches to 100 dolar ı need to thınk to sell ıt ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) thıs project has a great potentıal. bıtcoın communıty ıs growıng so waves communıty wıll grow lıke bıtcoın. lots of good news comıng. there ıs no other project lıke wave outsıde. team ıs workıng reaaly hard and good.
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June 04, 2017, 11:52:19 PM |
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Leasing is amazing concept I hope wavesgo price will follow waves rising price All week mo' money
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June 05, 2017, 01:15:28 AM |
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2055 this very moment .. incredible! I have come to say that we have created a Brazilian group of Waves. All Brazilians, Portuguese and other countries are invited! http://Https://t.me/WavesBrasilOficial
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