[DASH] Dash - Building the IoM | Dash Nation Progress Thread

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Building The Internet Of Money | Dash Nation Progress Thread



Welcome to the Dash Nation Progress Thread!

The individuals who have sought to perpetrate a false narrative about Dash for the first two years of its existence have been stopped, their seedy plans exposed.

As of this post, the real story about Dash is going to be front and centre for all who cherish the spirit of altcoins, crypto competition, and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

We will be adding to this OP, but this is a start to make it clear that the truth will now be told instead of spin and innuendo.

In the name of decentralized technology, competition, optimism and progress, we welcome you to Dash.

Let's move forward.

Kind Regards,

Dash Nation




How does Dash have what it takes to be the Internet of Money?

https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/the-internet-1715527827.html

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Dash Nation Flagship Site (Soft launch, still under construction)

www.dashnation.com (Site maintained by Tao Of Satoshi, TheDashGuy, and Busterzzz)

Dash Nation Merchants Listing

http://spenddash.com/ (Merchant listing site by Dash Nation member itscrazybro)

Informative Dash Nation links:

www.dash.org (Created by Dash Nation members, core team listed)

www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation (Website by Dash Nation Founder TaoOfSatoshi)

https://www.dash.org/forum (Forum where Dash Nation members discuss issues)

www.dashwhale.org/ (Where Dash Nation members submit and discuss budget proposals)

www.dashndrink.com (Showcasing Dash POS technology, project by Dash Nation members)

http://dashpaymagazine.com (Dash news site by Dash Nation member Elisha)

http://whatisdash.org/ (Dash Nation member TheDashGuy's Dash info site)

http://dashmasternode.org/ (Dash Masternode guidance by Dash Nation member itscrazybro)

http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com (Dash Nation Slack Channel where Dash Nation meets to chat)

[GTO911]

and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??

 

[TreasureSeeker]

Loving the way that Dash has continued to innovate and progress.  I came to Dash later than some but was attracted by the developments and actual delivery of progression.  Very excited about the Prospects of Dash Evolution.  

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??

 

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.0

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Loving the way that Dash has continued to innovate and progress.  I came to Dash later than some but was attracted by the developments and actual delivery of progression.  Very excited about the Prospects of Dash Evolution.  

Thank you for your kind words. It is very exciting.

[generalizethis]

and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??

 

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.0

The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??

 

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.0

The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

Really?

I know it's not going to be easy to steal back the narrative from you guys, as you've had it for two years...

This thread is about facts. You and your cronies, at this point,  have nothing.

If you do however prove a weakness in Dash, we would be grateful, and I would recommend you get a reward.

[generalizethis]

and building a true decentralized Internet Of Money, a digital cash the way Satoshi envisioned it.

Are you saying Dash is what satoshi envisioned as true digital money??

 

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.0

The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

Really?

I know it's not going to be easy to steal back the narrative from you guys, as you've had it for two years...

This thread is about facts. You and your cronies, at this point,  have nothing.

If you do however prove a weakness in Dash, we would be grateful, and I would recommend you get a reward.

Mining 30% of the current supply in the first 48hours makes it centralized by cryptosystem standards (using all available options to ensure a trustless execution of standards). I have to trust that Evan and a few cronies didn't mine the majority of those coins or redistributed them in the months following--there isn't any credible evidence to suggest otherwise, so trust is the only option available (a non-viable one in cryptosystems). You can choose to trust this is so, but that's hardly reassuring for someone with even moderate standards.

Once you address dash's fuliginous beginings, we can move on to why the tech isn't sound, or do you want to skip over dash's centralization issues?

[stan.distortion]

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The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

Didn't take long for you to turn up with your unsubstantiated allegations and general trolling did it? How long do you think you can stay even vaguely on topic this time? Read the title, "Progress", ie. not constant repetitions of history you re-posted several thousand times at this stage. Dash had a rough start, get over it. Its no secret and the only people that seem to give a shit are you and your cronies that insist on disrupting Dash threads, either post something useful or GTFO and go back to siring up trouble over Bitcoins blocksize.

Dash Nation... progress... yeah, entities, the kind of thing that enables users to keep anonymous internet scumbags at a distance. Not mentioned in the Evolution whitepaper but it's one of the fancy tricks you can do with them.

https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdf

[generalizethis]

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The problem is that Satoshi envisioned it as decentralized and technically sound--dash is neither.

Didn't take long for you to turn up with your unsubstantiated allegations and general trolling did it? How long do you think you can stay even vaguely on topic this time? Read the title, "Progress", ie. not constant repetitions of history you re-posted several thousand times at this stage. Dash had a rough start, get over it. Its no secret and the only people that seem to give a shit are you and your cronies that insist on disrupting Dash threads, either post something useful or GTFO and go back to siring up trouble over Bitcoins blocksize.

Dash Nation... progress... yeah, entities, the kind of thing that enables users to keep anonymous internet scumbags at a distance. Not mentioned in the Evolution whitepaper but it's one of the fancy tricks you can do with them.

https://www.dash.org/binaries/evo/DashPaper-v13-v1.pdf

I know that dismissing a coin's past would eliminate future issues, but it doesn't work like that. The OP made a statement that I'm disagreeing with, and unless you are willing to argue the merits of that specific criticism, you're the one who is distracting from the topic. I maintain that Satoshi's vision was a decentralized coin ( to be antifragile enough to disrupt fiat and legacy systems, it would have to be). If you feel my assertion is false, feel free to argue the point.

Though I do feel it's ironic that you are attempting to dismiss my current statements by using my past as a barometer.

[stan.distortion]

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I know that dismissing a coin's past would eliminate future issues, but it doesn't work like that. The OP made a statement that I'm disagreeing with, and unless you are willing to argue the merits of that specific criticism, you're the one who is distracting from the topic. I maintain that Satoshi's vision was a decentralized coin (it would have to be antifragile enough to disrupt fiat and legacy systems). If you feel my assertion is false, feel free to argue the point.

Though I do feel it's ironic that you are attempting to dismiss my current statements by using my past as a barometer.

Yeah, and anyone that wants to check that can check your post history, plenty of answers to it but you seem to have a blind spot to then. Get on and make your assertion if you want an answer to it, you claim Dash isn't decentralised for some strange reason. The network Satoshi created has about 5000 full nodes at the mo, Dashes masternode network has 3600, your point?

[generalizethis]

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I know that dismissing a coin's past would eliminate future issues, but it doesn't work like that. The OP made a statement that I'm disagreeing with, and unless you are willing to argue the merits of that specific criticism, you're the one who is distracting from the topic. I maintain that Satoshi's vision was a decentralized coin (it would have to be antifragile enough to disrupt fiat and legacy systems). If you feel my assertion is false, feel free to argue the point.

Though I do feel it's ironic that you are attempting to dismiss my current statements by using my past as a barometer.

Yeah, and anyone that wants to check that can check your post history, plenty of answers to it but you seem to have a blind spot to then. Get on and make your assertion if you want an answer to it, you claim Dash isn't decentralised for some strange reason, the network Satoshi created has about 5000 full nodes at the mo, Dashes masternode network has 3600, your point?

I didn't mention node count, but given 2 million coins were mined in the first days of dash's existence, and dash's nodes cost 1000 dash a piece, it is very easy to believe those nodes are controlled by those who were mining in those early times.

The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch--many months, or years, to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution is as fairly distributed as possible. Add to dash's fastmine an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) makes the worst case for a large distribution pool.

[cryptohunter]

How can this dash spammer be allowed to continue?

Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0

[stan.distortion]

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The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch. many months to years to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution was as fairly distributed as possible--add to that an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) made the worst case for a large distribution pool.

Not to detract from the countless answers you've already received on that point, prove it. C'mon, evidence, not conjecture. Prove to me that any individual has a sizeable percentage of all the Dash in existence and the point is yours, fail to prove it and that point I made on certain acts between yourself and icebreaker are just as accurate as any allegation you can make.

Cold, hard fact: No coin has a fair launch. Unless every individual on the planet is given an equal share it'll be unfair. From another direction, practically every coin is worthless at launch so everyone has an equal share, nothing. They gain value for many reasons including one you're intimately familiar with, FUD, but when it comes to another you seem to have a blind spot that causes you quite a lot of butthurt where Dash is concerned, merit.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

How can this dash spammer be continue?

Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.

Once again, thank you for bringing SOME facts about the events of 48 hours two years ago. It helps to know where you came from, and that no one is perfect.

Unfortunately for you and your school-boy bullies, nothing in your long-winded post proves any evidence of bad intent, just a spin on the facts to serve your interests.

Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made.

The facts are that he is almost universally accepted as a genius and a very fine, upstanding person. I am proud to be on his team, as are the rest of Dash Nation to a man (or woman).

Please, I implore you, bring something new and positive to the conversation. This constant negativity won't win you any friends here...

[generalizethis]

...
The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch. many months to years to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution was as fairly distributed as possible--add to that an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) made the worst case for a large distribution pool.

Not to detract from the countless answers you've already received on that point, prove it. C'mon, evidence, not conjecture. Prove to me that any individual has a sizeable percentage of all the Dash in existence and the point is yours, fail to prove it and that point I made on certain acts between yourself and icebreaker are just as accurate as any allegation you can make.

Cold, hard fact: No coin has a fair launch. Unless every individual on the planet is given an equal share it'll be unfair. From another direction, practically every coin is worthless at launch so everyone has an equal share, nothing. They gain value for many reasons including one you're intimately familiar with, FUD, but when it comes to another you seem to have a blind spot that causes you a certain amount of butthurt, merit.

All cryptosystems force you to bet on which has the best distribution, but the one that employs a slower emissions over the longer period of time has the better odds of being the most decentralized.

The problem for dash is that dash has one of the fastest emissions over the shortest period (2 million of 18.9 million in 2 days), so it makes a terrible case for being decentralized.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

...
The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch. many months to years to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution was as fairly distributed as possible--add to that an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) made the worst case for a large distribution pool.

Not to detract from the countless answers you've already received on that point, prove it. C'mon, evidence, not conjecture. Prove to me that any individual has a sizeable percentage of all the Dash in existence and the point is yours, fail to prove it and that point I made on certain acts between yourself and icebreaker are just as accurate as any allegation you can make.

Cold, hard fact: No coin has a fair launch. Unless every individual on the planet is given an equal share it'll be unfair. From another direction, practically every coin is worthless at launch so everyone has an equal share, nothing. They gain value for many reasons including one you're intimately familiar with, FUD, but when it comes to another you seem to have a blind spot that causes you a certain amount of butthurt, merit.

All cryptosystems force you to bet on which has the best distribution, but the one that employs a slower emissions over the longer period of time has the better odds of being the most decentralized.

The problem for dash is that dash has one of the fastest emissions over the shortest period (2 million of 18.9 million in 2 days), so it makes a terrible case for being decentralized.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I've considered these facts as well, and I disagree.

Thank you though, for not continuing with the instamine = scam angle. It's really getting old.

[generalizethis]

...
The main problem is that dash didn't adequately prepare for a decentralized launch. many months to years to slowly allow people to accumulate coins to assure the distribution was as fairly distributed as possible--add to that an emissions cut and dash (intentionally or not) made the worst case for a large distribution pool.

Not to detract from the countless answers you've already received on that point, prove it. C'mon, evidence, not conjecture. Prove to me that any individual has a sizeable percentage of all the Dash in existence and the point is yours, fail to prove it and that point I made on certain acts between yourself and icebreaker are just as accurate as any allegation you can make.

Cold, hard fact: No coin has a fair launch. Unless every individual on the planet is given an equal share it'll be unfair. From another direction, practically every coin is worthless at launch so everyone has an equal share, nothing. They gain value for many reasons including one you're intimately familiar with, FUD, but when it comes to another you seem to have a blind spot that causes you a certain amount of butthurt, merit.

All cryptosystems force you to bet on which has the best distribution, but the one that employs a slower emissions over the longer period of time has the better odds of being the most decentralized.

The problem for dash is that dash has one of the fastest emissions over the shortest period (2 million of 18.9 million in 2 days), so it makes a terrible case for being decentralized.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I've considered these facts as well, and I disagree.

Thank you though, for not continuing with the instamine angle. It's really getting old.

The numbers and the design of a cryptosystem aren't my opinion, and dash's faulty design using those standards isn't opinion--unless all coins used such front-loaded emissions; one could use an anonymous test of cryptosystem design without the coin's names ever being involved, and they would arrive at dash having a terrible model for decentralization. Now if you are comparing it to ripple or an ICO, then yes, dash is more decentralized.

[cryptohunter]

How can this dash spammer be continue?

Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.

Once again, thank you for bringing SOME facts about the events of 48 hours two years ago. It helps to know where you came from, and that no one is perfect.

Unfortunately for you and your school-boy bullies, nothing in your long-winded post proves any evidence of bad intent, just a spin on the facts to serve your interests.

Evan had a youthful exuberance, when coupled with a lack of experience caused some mistakes to be made.

The facts are that he is almost universally accepted as a genius and a very fine, upstanding person. I am proud to be on his team, as are the rest of Dash Nation to a man (or woman).

Please, I implore you, bring something new and positive to the conversation. This constant negativity won't win you any friends here...

You're welcome Taoway.

1. EVANS?? he is considered a NON genius  by most high level devs on here and a scammer by the majority of the crypto community . However, I think he seems hmmm to just be greedy and selfish and isn't as bad as I originally thought. He scammed got caught and offered an airdrop. However the fact the other dash whales said no sealed the fate of Dash to always and forever to be considered a scam. DASH the scheme is a scam. Simple as that.

2. The fact you are proud to support a scam even though in black and white it has been proven one is not a thing you should boast about.
The is no dash nation. It is core of scammers with some innocent investors who have been roped into it. Hopefully they will exit with a profit and either keep their gains or invest in other coins with a better future due to having no scam start to hold them back. Leaving the scammers with bags of worthless scam coins.

You can not expect huge adoption and any kind of mainstream use for dash with the scam start it has when there are many other coins with no scam start that offer the same or greater services.

Taoway. I know you feel bad about causing dash so much trouble in the past and bringing to light all of their dark tricks and scams. However, you should feel good about it and put your energy into something else. Unless you have a time machine dash scam is tainted now and forever.

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

The numbers and the design of a cryptosystem aren't my opinion, and dash's faulty design using those standards isn't opinion--

This sounds like your implying either that Dash has a faulty design, or that the instamine was by design.

Either way, please enlighten us with some facts. As I've said before, you would be doing Dash a favor.