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August 30, 2017, 07:09:20 AM |
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Even if i get hate for this, i must say, i side with the devs and older members. Starting a conversation with offensive words like childish and accusations, sets the discussion level to a minimum from the start. And when offered to accept the suggestion of CrowdConscious to find a new dev, CrowdConscious just runs away and says he sells everything....
What do you people expect from the devs? how about contributing to this community project instead of just requesting free stuff/work....
The dev is sacrificing his free time to make this project work and you guys dont even thank him or support him, when he needs a lil time off....
He has no responsibilities in your trades with espers, every trader is responsible for his own money. stop whining....
If the dev want to have a pet project for his free time, please do it at home and no one will complain about it. You start working on a coin, market it via social medias like twitter, facebook etc, and then put it on an exchange for public to trade, the community expects a minimal obligation back from the dev. If he cant seriously spend time on this coin, please stop marketing it to the innocent public out there and you do your little pet project at home, on your free time..
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August 30, 2017, 07:11:41 AM |
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Hello people. Lately the forum and discord has been filled with people asking about what's going on with Espers. If you belong to the Official Team, do not take this as an attack, it's just something we SERIOUSLY have to take in mind and act ASAP. Well, I'm making this post to ask a direct and clear answer from the @Official Team why the following cases haven't been taken in consideration and seriously what's happening and why not even a single decision or big change has even taken since CryptoCoderz seems to be missing for his personal issues. A Team should be capable of making his own decisions even if one of his most importants members is missing, which seems that it's not happening. First of all, seems there's literally not even one from the @Official Team acting as a Community Manager. A Community Manager job is needed to understand the Community and to transfer all issues and discussions in a good manner to the Official Team, why that isn't happening? Why even if all issues have been transfered haven't yet find a solution? On following screenshots I'm showing real proof of offerings that have taken place in discord but NEVER took a serious reply back, those are a few, all that have been transfered to me in a short time lapse. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315961594641383424/352230254829633536/Screen_Shot_2017-08-30_at_02.16.51.pnghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315961594641383424/352234352630824963/unknown.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/e3114e647931f581e28c16c0b03363ac.pngSeriously. Why those offerings haven't good any kind of SERIOUS reply back? Those people offered a solution to the problem that we're already having. And I find it really disrespectful to not take those in mind. There's no feedback. What's going on? Doesn't have the Team enough resources or power to make a necessary decision when it has to be taken? There's no communication within the team and also the community? What about the Assistant Developer? Well, I wonder if there's one, because the fixs should be there already. We experience problems on PoW/PoS from months, something like that which should be solved ASAP is left in the inkwell like nothing happens or even matters. And a lot of promises we're made when the update fix was about to take place and hasn't been yet released. The Whitepaper thing, that's another thing left in the inkwell and months keep passing. Seriously dear Team, this is like Espers isn't even capable of doing a shit while CryptoCoderz is away for his personal issues, even he was why the decision of hiring a new dev hasn't made? Why you all have to rely everything to one person? I think I'm talking by myself and some other angry members of the community, so, since I spent some time here I expect you to do the same an ANSWER every point I made here.We all want Espers to rise and you @Official Team seem quite indifferent about it. If you agree with me and you're a normal user, support this post to make it more visible. Thanks. Even if i get hate for this, i must say, i side with the devs and older members. Starting a conversation with offensive words like childish and accusations, sets the discussion level to a minimum from the start. And when offered to accept the suggestion of CrowdConscious to find a new dev, CrowdConscious just runs away and says he sells everything.... What do you people expect from the devs? how about contributing to this community project instead of just requesting free stuff/work.... The dev is sacrificing his free time to make this project work and you guys dont even thank him or support him, when he needs a lil time off.... He has no responsibilities in your trades with espers, every trader is responsible for his own money. stop whining.... It isn't whining, it's traders taking responsibility for their investment. If Cryptocoderz and the rest of the team aren't going to take responsibility... Yes, Cryptocoderz, he has chosen multiple times to make promises and then miss deadlines. Their is little to no leadership left. So the community must stop and stand up an help out. Their choice of words has got nothing to do with it. If you ask me, which you probably don't, you are whats wrong with this coin. Complacency.
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qgmurugan007
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August 30, 2017, 07:24:02 AM |
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Looks like another masternode coin CV2 is stealing Espers thunder with more active devs and roadmap. https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_CV2/Already up 400% in 2 days. Thos who hesitates is lost in crypto space as crypto is running at a very fast pace.
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August 30, 2017, 07:27:36 AM |
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Hello people. Lately the forum and discord has been filled with people asking about what's going on with Espers. If you belong to the Official Team, do not take this as an attack, it's just something we SERIOUSLY have to take in mind and act ASAP. Well, I'm making this post to ask a direct and clear answer from the @Official Team why the following cases haven't been taken in consideration and seriously what's happening and why not even a single decision or big change has even taken since CryptoCoderz seems to be missing for his personal issues. A Team should be capable of making his own decisions even if one of his most importants members is missing, which seems that it's not happening. First of all, seems there's literally not even one from the @Official Team acting as a Community Manager. A Community Manager job is needed to understand the Community and to transfer all issues and discussions in a good manner to the Official Team, why that isn't happening? Why even if all issues have been transfered haven't yet find a solution? On following screenshots I'm showing real proof of offerings that have taken place in discord but NEVER took a serious reply back, those are a few, all that have been transfered to me in a short time lapse. Seriously. Why those offerings haven't good any kind of SERIOUS reply back? Those people offered a solution to the problem that we're already having. And I find it really disrespectful to not take those in mind. There's no feedback. What's going on? Doesn't have the Team enough resources or power to make a necessary decision when it has to be taken? There's no communication within the team and also the community? What about the Assistant Developer? Well, I wonder if there's one, because the fixs should be there already. We experience problems on PoW/PoS from months, something like that which should be solved ASAP is left in the inkwell like nothing happens or even matters. And a lot of promises we're made when the update fix was about to take place and hasn't been yet released. The Whitepaper thing, that's another thing left in the inkwell and months keep passing. Seriously dear Team, this is like Espers isn't even capable of doing a shit while CryptoCoderz is away for his personal issues, even he was why the decision of hiring a new dev hasn't made? Why you all have to rely everything to one person? I think I'm talking by myself and some other angry members of the community, so, since I spent some time here I expect you to do the same an ANSWER every point I made here.We all want Espers to rise and you @Official Team seem quite indifferent about it. If you agree with me and you're a normal user, support this post to make it more visible. Thanks. Finally community realised what i keep tell everyday in the last month. Espers need a new Dev. But be carreful of what you say. Gawlea idiot will block you. He blocked me from discord channel just because i tell Dev need to be replaced.
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Alezha
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August 30, 2017, 07:36:57 AM |
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Looks like another masternode coin CV2 is stealing Espers thunder with more active devs and roadmap. https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_CV2/Already up 400% in 2 days. Thos who hesitates is lost in crypto space as crypto is running at a very fast pace. She for a week on the chart from 1 to 4 sat has grown))))))) 400%)))))))))))))))))
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oni4an
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August 30, 2017, 07:48:54 AM |
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Are you in any hurry? Give the developer time! Whoever is in a hurry can get off the train and I'll buy your 4 sat coins/
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August 30, 2017, 09:05:50 AM |
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Hello people. Lately the forum and discord has been filled with people asking about what's going on with Espers. If you belong to the Official Team, do not take this as an attack, it's just something we SERIOUSLY have to take in mind and act ASAP. Well, I'm making this post to ask a direct and clear answer from the @Official Team why the following cases haven't been taken in consideration and seriously what's happening and why not even a single decision or big change has even taken since CryptoCoderz seems to be missing for his personal issues. A Team should be capable of making his own decisions even if one of his most importants members is missing, which seems that it's not happening. First of all, seems there's literally not even one from the @Official Team acting as a Community Manager. A Community Manager job is needed to understand the Community and to transfer all issues and discussions in a good manner to the Official Team, why that isn't happening? Why even if all issues have been transfered haven't yet find a solution? On following screenshots I'm showing real proof of offerings that have taken place in discord but NEVER took a serious reply back, those are a few, all that have been transfered to me in a short time lapse. Seriously. Why those offerings haven't good any kind of SERIOUS reply back? Those people offered a solution to the problem that we're already having. And I find it really disrespectful to not take those in mind. There's no feedback. What's going on? Doesn't have the Team enough resources or power to make a necessary decision when it has to be taken? There's no communication within the team and also the community? What about the Assistant Developer? Well, I wonder if there's one, because the fixs should be there already. We experience problems on PoW/PoS from months, something like that which should be solved ASAP is left in the inkwell like nothing happens or even matters. And a lot of promises we're made when the update fix was about to take place and hasn't been yet released. The Whitepaper thing, that's another thing left in the inkwell and months keep passing. Seriously dear Team, this is like Espers isn't even capable of doing a shit while CryptoCoderz is away for his personal issues, even he was why the decision of hiring a new dev hasn't made? Why you all have to rely everything to one person? I think I'm talking by myself and some other angry members of the community, so, since I spent some time here I expect you to do the same an ANSWER every point I made here.We all want Espers to rise and you @Official Team seem quite indifferent about it. If you agree with me and you're a normal user, support this post to make it more visible. Thanks. Finally community realised what i keep tell everyday in the last month. Espers need a new Dev. But be carreful of what you say. Gawlea idiot will block you. He blocked me from discord channel just because i tell Dev need to be replaced. Gawlea did more for this project than you will accomplish in your lifetime. Keep with your strategy of FUD and calling people names. You are doing a big favor to the coin and this community.
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thehihoguy
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August 30, 2017, 09:10:16 AM |
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It isn't whining, it's traders taking responsibility for their investment.
If Cryptocoderz and the rest of the team aren't going to take responsibility... Yes, Cryptocoderz, he has chosen multiple times to make promises and then miss deadlines. Their is little to no leadership left.
So the community must stop and stand up an help out.
Their choice of words has got nothing to do with it. If you ask me, which you probably don't, you are whats wrong with this coin. Complacency.
So you blame Cryptocoderz if you as trader lost half of your investment? Coz you blindly trust random people on the internet? Yes i agree, the community should stand up and offer help. Thats how a community works. So what do you suggest we do now? The guy CrowdConscious who just offered to find a dev, whos help was accepted, instantly took his offer back. Those who complain just want a pump and dump coin for fast profit, see above comment about 400% gains...Espers is a longterm project and their roadmap plans are designed for longterm. The choice of words are very important to a discussion. Would you listen to my words if i start off with insulting you? A discussion should be productive and add value to the situation. The aim of the discussion should be on how to improve a situation with the given ressources and not to find a blaming victim.
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August 30, 2017, 10:16:48 AM |
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It isn't whining, it's traders taking responsibility for their investment.
If Cryptocoderz and the rest of the team aren't going to take responsibility... Yes, Cryptocoderz, he has chosen multiple times to make promises and then miss deadlines. Their is little to no leadership left.
So the community must stop and stand up an help out.
Their choice of words has got nothing to do with it. If you ask me, which you probably don't, you are whats wrong with this coin. Complacency.
So you blame Cryptocoderz if you as trader lost half of your investment? Coz you blindly trust random people on the internet? Yes i agree, the community should stand up and offer help. Thats how a community works. So what do you suggest we do now? The guy CrowdConscious who just offered to find a dev, whos help was accepted, instantly took his offer back. Those who complain just want a pump and dump coin for fast profit, see above comment about 400% gains...Espers is a longterm project and their roadmap plans are designed for longterm. The choice of words are very important to a discussion. Would you listen to my words if i start off with insulting you? A discussion should be productive and add value to the situation. The aim of the discussion should be on how to improve a situation with the given ressources and not to find a blaming victim. [/quote Espers is just a very good idea whithout developers.
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gawlea
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August 30, 2017, 10:52:52 AM |
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Finally community realised what i keep tell everyday in the last month. Espers need a new Dev. But be carreful of what you say. Gawlea idiot will block you. He blocked me from discord channel just because i tell Dev need to be replaced.
I don't have to block anyone, for this purpose we have Moderators. I didn't blocked because I didn't had the chance, some moderator was faster than me. From my point of view you are just a troller and this is the last answer you'll get from me. That's why slack was a private channel, because of people like you. About the replacement of the dev, first you must develop a coin, develop a new algorithm from scratch, build a community around a project and after all this you can replace who you want, till than you can just replace your ESP with BTC and leave. @everyone else Espers is: " Espers is a personal project and creation of Cryptocoderz." and it will remain like so. We cannot change devs when 1-2 people arround here or discord dosen't like the price of the coin because they bought at 30 sats. The project will be developed in the long term, like he said a couple of months ago that masternodes will come till the end of the year, so he is taking his time. -about the Android wallet, the developer didn't provided the wallet, is not Jon's fault. -about the wallpaper indeed this is behind and should have been released long time ago but I'm sure he have some good explanation for the delay. -about the new website team member Raudii is working on it with a community member Arsonic (from discord).
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qgmurugan007
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August 30, 2017, 11:03:03 AM |
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Finally community realised what i keep tell everyday in the last month. Espers need a new Dev. But be carreful of what you say. Gawlea idiot will block you. He blocked me from discord channel just because i tell Dev need to be replaced.
I don't have to block anyone, for this purpose we have Moderators. I didn't blocked because I didn't had the chance, some moderator was faster than me. From my point of view you are just a troller and this is the last answer you'll get from me. That's why slack was a private channel, because of people like you. About the replacement of the dev, first you must develop a coin, develop a new algorithm from scratch, build a community around a project and after all this you can replace who you want, till than you can just replace your ESP with BTC and leave. @everyone else Espers is: " Espers is a personal project and creation of Cryptocoderz." and it will remain like so. We cannot change devs when 1-2 people arround here or discord dosen't like the price of the coin because they bought at 30 sats. The project will be developed in the long term, like he said a couple of months ago that masternodes will come till the end of the year, so he is taking his time. -about the Android wallet, the developer didn't provided the wallet, is not Jon's fault. -about the wallpaper indeed this is behind and should have been released long time ago but I'm sure he have some good explanation for the delay. -about the new website team member Raudii is working on it with a community member Arsonic (from discord). Could you please stop saying Espers is a personal project. CC may be the active coder, but a project is not just about coding. Its a community project. A lot of members from the community are helping with website, marketing, voting for exchanges etc. Since its a community project, the developer should be open to criticism from the community too. People are investing in this coin after listening to the dev's promises. If the dev has no time in implementing the promised items, all the community is asking is get another dev/devs on the team and get it rolling. You have a typo above. wallpaper = whitepaper.
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August 30, 2017, 11:23:21 AM |
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A lot of members from the community are helping with website, marketing, voting for exchanges etc.
Agree, but this dosen't give you the right to say that is your project and make decisions in the name of Jon. The developer should be open to criticism from the community too.
Criticism is one thing, making the dev lier, scammer or lazy is not. If the dev has no time in implementing the promised items, all the community is asking is get another dev/devs on the team and get it rolling.
To get another dev on the team is one thing, to replace him is another thing. I'm sure he is open to such a proposal, he have/had 3 more Asst. Devs as you may see on the Team.
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Simple858
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August 30, 2017, 12:14:10 PM |
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people cry cry and just cry for LOW PRICE... what if dumper's would rise sell wall to 20 satoshi or even higher, ...but that is to optimistic as at NOVA there is 24BTC sell until 20 satoshi.
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cryptocan
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August 30, 2017, 03:32:02 PM |
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Espers is 3 sat at novaexchange right now, I have already dumped all of my coins at 5 sat when devs didn't show up when they said they will, I think we should call it, time of death: Aug. 30, 2017
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neguinho
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August 30, 2017, 03:48:07 PM |
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Who does not want but the coin send me I want do not be criticizing be calm. EekwSkdcD23vwgsDFfhM1mEVUsPKTJ2ziE Or make your own coin
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August 30, 2017, 04:24:58 PM |
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Finally community realised what i keep tell everyday in the last month. Espers need a new Dev. But be carreful of what you say. Gawlea idiot will block you. He blocked me from discord channel just because i tell Dev need to be replaced.
I'm not talking about a replacement. CryptoCoderz condition won't be a issue if there was another dev on the project keeping the work on. If he somehow saw himself unable to pay attention to the project, or the Team saw this coming, there should be some decision made to not keep this project frozen for months with huge issues regarding to mining, for example.
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August 30, 2017, 04:34:14 PM |
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Gawlea did more for this project than you will accomplish in your lifetime. Keep with your strategy of FUD and calling people names. You are doing a big favor to the coin and this community.
I haven't been here for long but since the first day I've tried to help people regarding everything I always could. Seems like you don't understand the point I tried to explain, but I'm not making FUD, I'm transfering thoughts of the community that have been around for months on the forum and discord, people asked me to do so. I could explain myself better or worse but this ain't any intent of damaging, just expose real issues that are out there that should be taken in consideration and fixed to keep this going. This is not black or white.
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August 30, 2017, 04:45:23 PM |
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About the replacement of the dev, first you must develop a coin, develop a new algorithm from scratch, build a community around a project and after all this you can replace who you want, till than you can just replace your ESP with BTC and leave.
@everyone else Espers is: " Espers is a personal project and creation of Cryptocoderz." and it will remain like so. We cannot change devs when 1-2 people arround here or discord dosen't like the price of the coin because they bought at 30 sats. The project will be developed in the long term, like he said a couple of months ago that masternodes will come till the end of the year, so he is taking his time. -about the Android wallet, the developer didn't provided the wallet, is not Jon's fault. -about the wallpaper indeed this is behind and should have been released long time ago but I'm sure he have some good explanation for the delay. -about the new website team member Raudii is working on it with a community member Arsonic (from discord).
Thanks for your reply Gawlea, but as you can see I haven't made a single word regarding to the current price of the coin. I really don't care. There are still some things that got no answer, we can all understand that CC is the lead developer of the project itself, but it won't be bad if he relyes to the Official Team more decision power and takes in mind of hiring or having an apprentice to keep this going when he cannot take the lead.
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August 30, 2017, 05:53:38 PM |
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About the replacement of the dev, first you must develop a coin, develop a new algorithm from scratch, build a community around a project and after all this you can replace who you want, till than you can just replace your ESP with BTC and leave.
@everyone else Espers is: " Espers is a personal project and creation of Cryptocoderz." and it will remain like so. We cannot change devs when 1-2 people arround here or discord dosen't like the price of the coin because they bought at 30 sats. The project will be developed in the long term, like he said a couple of months ago that masternodes will come till the end of the year, so he is taking his time. -about the Android wallet, the developer didn't provided the wallet, is not Jon's fault. -about the wallpaper indeed this is behind and should have been released long time ago but I'm sure he have some good explanation for the delay. -about the new website team member Raudii is working on it with a community member Arsonic (from discord).
Thanks for your reply Gawlea, but as you can see I haven't made a single word regarding to the current price of the coin. I really don't care. There are still some things that got no answer, we can all understand that CC is the lead developer of the project itself, but it won't be bad if he relyes to the Official Team more decision power and takes in mind of hiring or having an apprentice to keep this going when he cannot take the lead. Sort of like what the poswallet community decided for the prior developer, made him sort of the ceo with final decision making power. But hired 5 new devs to help speed the process up.
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gawlea
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August 30, 2017, 05:59:37 PM |
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About the replacement of the dev, first you must develop a coin, develop a new algorithm from scratch, build a community around a project and after all this you can replace who you want, till than you can just replace your ESP with BTC and leave.
@everyone else Espers is: " Espers is a personal project and creation of Cryptocoderz." and it will remain like so. We cannot change devs when 1-2 people arround here or discord dosen't like the price of the coin because they bought at 30 sats. The project will be developed in the long term, like he said a couple of months ago that masternodes will come till the end of the year, so he is taking his time. -about the Android wallet, the developer didn't provided the wallet, is not Jon's fault. -about the wallpaper indeed this is behind and should have been released long time ago but I'm sure he have some good explanation for the delay. -about the new website team member Raudii is working on it with a community member Arsonic (from discord).
Thanks for your reply Gawlea, but as you can see I haven't made a single word regarding to the current price of the coin. I really don't care. There are still some things that got no answer, we can all understand that CC is the lead developer of the project itself, but it won't be bad if he relyes to the Official Team more decision power and takes in mind of hiring or having an apprentice to keep this going when he cannot take the lead. I didn't say you said to take over this project, but some guys did. About bringing a new or more new developers I agree with you, if Jon is OK with this proposal I'm 100% for this thing. I want the project to be a succesful one more than you all do, but we cannot take Jon's project because of the delays. He never left even he was away for some weeks, as you may noted on discord. This is not right he worked a lot on this and is not fair.
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