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May 15, 2016, 07:25:12 AM
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This asset has promising features...Are all these features now fully functional? or it is under development?
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May 15, 2016, 07:28:57 AM
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Need promotion services? I work very cheap. Send me a private message with an offer.

Sorry, we don't need "forum push and twitter" promotional services.

What about some exchangers? Like Yobit or C-CEX. It will be nice to see your coin on exchangers.
Also, do you need russian translate on local branch?
Why don't go to big exchanges like poloniex or bittrex?
Those are absolutely better than Yobit and C-Cex.

I hope for a nice future of this coin.
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When I buy ophion it tells me to save the transaction id. Is there a reason behind it like it's not manual and we have to contact you with that transaction id?

No reason, Its just worth logging it yourself in case you have issues and you can refer to the transaction you had issues with.

The mnemonic passphrase however is your only way back into your account should you lose your password, This is also a reason we did not allow automated password resets, We wanted this site as secure as possible.
Keep that safe.

So, in essence, you can log back in to your account with the mnemonic seed only if you needed too, but also write down your private keys and such just in case?

Also, it seems privacy is a big concern here... Can anyone run nodes to ensure decentralization? Also, what do we do with ophion coins exactly? Do we only purchase stuff on the market place with those coins, or maybe can we use that and bitcoin/other altcoins as well? I'd personally like to use monero for the extra privacy on top of TOR.

Not really, the seed is for you to give to support to prove the account is yours incase you lose your user/pass. So that you have access to your details, But yes keep these keys safe.

The OPH Asset is the only currency available on the market. As the price increases each week, we at the same time are trying to bring some value to it. So the earlier you buy the better.

Once you puchase your items you can either keep them for price increases or exchange them off to currencies like Monero/Bitcoin, if you ever wanted to use the market again though you would need to re-purchase OPH which could be more expensive at this time.

So, is this the new silkroad? I mean, it's not bad, I just worry that people might actually use ophion for illegal goods later on
And by the way, would OPH be released soon in bittrex?

No this it _NOT_ any affiliation or plan to be like silkroad. Silkroad was made on the hidden web primarily to sell illegal goods. We do not want this. If we see any illegal goods being sold on public lists or stores they will be deleted instantly. what is sold on hidden stores we have no control over. But it has much greater uses than being used to primarily sell illegal goods which we hope doesn't happen.

Our service is primary to provide a secure anonymous service, just because you are anonymous doesn't mean you can break the law. That is not what anonymity is about.

This asset has promising features...Are all these features now fully functional? or it is under development?

Still under development, There may be more features if I come across something whilst coding. That always seems to happen. This is not primary a task by me though, I am await a friend from a workplace to join to help development and we may be looking at hiring another C++ & QT developer.

Need promotion services? I work very cheap. Send me a private message with an offer.

Sorry, we don't need "forum push and twitter" promotional services.

What about some exchangers? Like Yobit or C-CEX. It will be nice to see your coin on exchangers.
Also, do you need russian translate on local branch?
Why don't go to big exchanges like poloniex or bittrex?
Those are absolutely better than Yobit and C-Cex.

I hope for a nice future of this coin.

We have gone to more than 4 exchanges with ideas and are currently in talks, As I said before though, our asset system may take some extra development or software on exchange side and this would need to be audited. We are having ongoing talks at the moment and they are looking promising.

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May 15, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

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May 15, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

Claiming the coin is all automatic. As I described in an above post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464725.msg14851881#msg14851881

The public/private key pair on your account page will hold your OPH just like on bitcoin, as you see it is also a valid bitcoin address because it runs on the bitcoin network. Once I have ironed out some bugs we will distribute the funds accordingly to these addresses, whoever has purchased and how much. Which you will then be able to view in the Ophion Market Client when released (Late August/Early September) and on our block explorer which will be released in the coming weeks.

-Sebastian

❰❰ OPHION ❱❱▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨ A SECURE, ANONYMOUS & DECENTRALIZED MARKET ▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨❰❰ OPHION ❱❱
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May 15, 2016, 03:09:28 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

I did buy some OPHION 2 days ago since the price will only go up from here. The project seems interesting since they did everything right so far:
- No anonymous holders
- Transparency towards how the funds are spent.
- Innovation with a true potential
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May 15, 2016, 03:49:14 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

Claiming the coin is all automatic. As I described in an above post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464725.msg14851881#msg14851881

The public/private key pair on your account page will hold your OPH just like on bitcoin, as you see it is also a valid bitcoin address because it runs on the bitcoin network. Once I have ironed out some bugs we will distribute the funds accordingly to these addresses, whoever has purchased and how much. Which you will then be able to view in the Ophion Market Client when released (Late August/Early September) and on our block explorer which will be released in the coming weeks.

-Sebastian

The growth of the coin lies in the fact how accessible it is to others. So it would be good (mandatory) to include a date where the coin will hit the exchanges.
Only if the masses can get to it only then there will be volume.

The next step would be to create usability. So a reward program for selling items on the market place f.e.
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May 15, 2016, 04:01:34 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

Claiming the coin is all automatic. As I described in an above post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464725.msg14851881#msg14851881

The public/private key pair on your account page will hold your OPH just like on bitcoin, as you see it is also a valid bitcoin address because it runs on the bitcoin network. Once I have ironed out some bugs we will distribute the funds accordingly to these addresses, whoever has purchased and how much. Which you will then be able to view in the Ophion Market Client when released (Late August/Early September) and on our block explorer which will be released in the coming weeks.

-Sebastian

The growth of the coin lies in the fact how accessible it is to others. So it would be good (mandatory) to include a date where the coin will hit the exchanges.
Only if the masses can get to it only then there will be volume.

The next step would be to create usability. So a reward program for selling items on the market place f.e.

We have an announcement coming up that you may like. But it will hit exchanges we are working extremely hard on that front.

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May 15, 2016, 04:09:07 PM
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Announcement

> We have decided to use the counterparty (http://www.counterparty.io) blockchain system to create and distribute our assets

We have decided this for a few reasons to benefit our userbase

1. Instant Trading / Exchange. OPH -> XCP -> Many exchanges that accept XCP trading pairs. XCP/BTC etc

2. A fantastic API that allows us to get assets to you quicker, we are looking at the next few days.

Not to mention that we are only in week 1 and we are selling for a low value which has a great chance of increasing because of this announcement.

This will make no difference to how the network will work or and no feature changes will be needed.

In fact it gives us some more features that are already in place for the counterparty asset system, such as their wallet.

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May 15, 2016, 07:54:48 PM
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Announcement

> We have decided to use the counterparty (http://www.counterparty.io) blockchain system to create and distribute our assets

We have decided this for a few reasons to benefit our userbase

1. Instant Trading / Exchange. OPH -> XCP -> Many exchanges that accept XCP trading pairs. XCP/BTC etc

2. A fantastic API that allows us to get assets to you quicker, we are looking at the next few days.

Not to mention that we are only in week 1 and we are selling for a low value which has a great chance of increasing because of this announcement.

This will make no difference to how the network will work or and no feature changes will be needed.

In fact it gives us some more features that are already in place for the counterparty asset system, such as their wallet.

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   OK this sounds great but how should we proceed with purchases? Do we use a counterparty wallet? or continue using the purchase system.
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May 15, 2016, 08:09:22 PM
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   OK this sounds great but how should we proceed with purchases? Do we use a counterparty wallet? or continue using the purchase system.

You will continue purchasing through our website for now unless the price on the Counterparty system is cheaper, which it wouldn't be unless someone is trying to make money by buying alot before the price jump. So, proceed with using our crowdsale system, it ends in 7 weeks.

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❰❰ OPHION ❱❱▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨ A SECURE, ANONYMOUS & DECENTRALIZED MARKET ▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨❰❰ OPHION ❱❱
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May 15, 2016, 08:55:49 PM
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Hazelnutter, after the ico ends, what will be the price of one OPHION?
Is that the same as the 7th week ico sale? If that is, everyone should buy today and sell later for a much higher price per OPHION.

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Hazelnutter, after the ico ends, what will be the price of one OPHION?
Is that the same as the 7th week ico sale? If that is, everyone should buy today and sell later for a much higher price per OPHION.

The price of Ophion will be whatever the demand for Ophion sets it at. Which most likely will be much more than the price of the ICO due to the fact that Ophion is more than an asset, it's a decentralized marketplace backed behind an asset. The demand will be much higher because people will want to trade/buy/sell items on the marketplace, so they'll need Ophion in order to do so.

-Sebastian

❰❰ OPHION ❱❱▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨ A SECURE, ANONYMOUS & DECENTRALIZED MARKET ▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨❰❰ OPHION ❱❱
TRADE GOODS OR SERVICES ■NO LOGGING - AT ALL■ 2 OF 3 MULTISIG AUTOMATION ■SELLER/BUYER RATING SYSTEM■ AND MANY MORE
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May 15, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
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the ICO interest me because this coins seems have a good development,maybe will go to invest in ICO but may be the method for claiming the coin can be revealed?

Claiming the coin is all automatic. As I described in an above post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464725.msg14851881#msg14851881

The public/private key pair on your account page will hold your OPH just like on bitcoin, as you see it is also a valid bitcoin address because it runs on the bitcoin network. Once I have ironed out some bugs we will distribute the funds accordingly to these addresses, whoever has purchased and how much. Which you will then be able to view in the Ophion Market Client when released (Late August/Early September) and on our block explorer which will be released in the coming weeks.

-Sebastian

The growth of the coin lies in the fact how accessible it is to others. So it would be good (mandatory) to include a date where the coin will hit the exchanges.
Only if the masses can get to it only then there will be volume.

The next step would be to create usability. So a reward program for selling items on the market place f.e.

We have an announcement coming up that you may like. But it will hit exchanges we are working extremely hard on that front.

You got me excited already. The overall scope of the project is good. And news is running the succes of altcoin these days. Next to delivering on promises and the execution of the roadmap offcourse. I hope to have found a new good asset.
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You got me excited already. The overall scope of the project is good. And news is running the succes of altcoin these days. Next to delivering on promises and the execution of the roadmap offcourse. I hope to have found a new good asset.

Well that's great, cause this price will only last for two more days and we have tons of updates regarding assets in the next few days. We also plan on releasing some code of Ophion to the github within the next week, the client is currently being developed using C++/QT5. So be ready for a lot of updates!

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May 15, 2016, 09:34:51 PM
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Hazelnutter, after the ico ends, what will be the price of one OPHION?
Is that the same as the 7th week ico sale? If that is, everyone should buy today and sell later for a much higher price per OPHION.

The price of Ophion will be whatever the demand for Ophion sets it at. Which most likely will be much more than the price of the ICO due to the fact that Ophion is more than an asset, it's a decentralized marketplace backed behind an asset. The demand will be much higher because people will want to trade/buy/sell items on the marketplace, so they'll need Ophion in order to do so.

-Sebastian

That's sound ambitious but demand will not just pop up. Do you plan to make the coin more attractive by some promotions or creating a demand for Ophion. Without marketing the coin will be just like another coin. Remember a decentralized market is something other coins; bitbay and stellar f.e. also offer.
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May 15, 2016, 09:42:58 PM
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Hazelnutter, after the ico ends, what will be the price of one OPHION?
Is that the same as the 7th week ico sale? If that is, everyone should buy today and sell later for a much higher price per OPHION.

The price of Ophion will be whatever the demand for Ophion sets it at. Which most likely will be much more than the price of the ICO due to the fact that Ophion is more than an asset, it's a decentralized marketplace backed behind an asset. The demand will be much higher because people will want to trade/buy/sell items on the marketplace, so they'll need Ophion in order to do so.

-Sebastian

That's sound ambitious but demand will not just pop up. Do you plan to make the coin more attractive by some promotions or creating a demand for Ophion. Without marketing the coin will be just like another coin. Remember a decentralized market is something other coins; bitbay and stellar f.e. also offer.

Bitbay and stellar are not comparable. They do not have the anonymity and security features that Ophion is offering. Store and Hidden Store creation, Encryption. The fact we are also limiting circulation to what is sold in crowdsale will also make Ophion a rare commodity. People will want to use this, There is a place in the market for what Ophion is offering. We do not plan to be a breakthrough cryptocurrency, we are here to serve a purpose and because we will be serving that purpose very well OPH will be a very sought after asset.

❰❰ OPHION ❱❱▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨ A SECURE, ANONYMOUS & DECENTRALIZED MARKET ▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨▨❰❰ OPHION ❱❱
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May 15, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
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Hazelnutter, after the ico ends, what will be the price of one OPHION?
Is that the same as the 7th week ico sale? If that is, everyone should buy today and sell later for a much higher price per OPHION.

The price of Ophion will be whatever the demand for Ophion sets it at. Which most likely will be much more than the price of the ICO due to the fact that Ophion is more than an asset, it's a decentralized marketplace backed behind an asset. The demand will be much higher because people will want to trade/buy/sell items on the marketplace, so they'll need Ophion in order to do so.

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That's sound ambitious but demand will not just pop up. Do you plan to make the coin more attractive by some promotions or creating a demand for Ophion. Without marketing the coin will be just like another coin. Remember a decentralized market is something other coins; bitbay and stellar f.e. also offer.

Bitbay and stellar are not comparable. They do not have the anonymity and security features that Ophion is offering. Store and Hidden Store creation, Encryption. The fact we are also limiting circulation to what is sold in crowdsale will also make Ophion a rare commodity. People will want to use this, There is a place in the market for what Ophion is offering. We do not plan to be a breakthrough cryptocurrency, we are here to serve a purpose and because we will be serving that purpose very well OPH will be a very sought after asset.

That would be true as long as there are enough sellers and buyers that is running your program though, from what it seems like.  I still like the idea of a program like this that is a decentralized anonymous market place, but the only thing I'm not so sure will go over well with people is the fact that you force people to use the Ophion currency instead of allowing any currency to be used in the market place.  I understand that gives value to this asset, but at the same time, if you only have 100 people or so that buy Ophion coins, then those people can hold them for speculation without knowing that they would ever want to use them on the actual network... It just doesn't seem necessary to force people to use this coin that is backed on Bitcoin, which is not truly anonymous in the first place...

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May 15, 2016, 11:02:50 PM
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it is a very interesting project and the concept.
I hope soon to be launched.
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May 16, 2016, 12:09:23 AM
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That would be true as long as there are enough sellers and buyers that is running your program though, from what it seems like.  I still like the idea of a program like this that is a decentralized anonymous market place, but the only thing I'm not so sure will go over well with people is the fact that you force people to use the Ophion currency instead of allowing any currency to be used in the market place.  I understand that gives value to this asset, but at the same time, if you only have 100 people or so that buy Ophion coins, then those people can hold them for speculation without knowing that they would ever want to use them on the actual network... It just doesn't seem necessary to force people to use this coin that is backed on Bitcoin, which is not truly anonymous in the first place...

We are utilizing the OPH asset in order to gain funding for the development of the Platform and Project. Otherwise, we wouldn't have anything to give to those that donated, they'd just be throwing money at the project without anything in return. Also, we utilize OPH so that the project and our planned escrowing service on the platform will be a lot easier to manage. If we utilized any coin that people wanted to use then escrowing would be a nightmare, keeping nodes for every and any possible coin that people could use along with managing keys would be horrible.

The people that buy into Ophion will be able to gain value and do what they want with their coins, it's a crowdsale. Since they got here and trusted in the project during the developmental stage they should be rewarded. If 2,000,000 OPH is sold and it turns out 1,000,000 of it is being held by speculators, what would be the problem? That just means the value would be up until they stopped holding on. That's the simplicity of a market economy; think of the current world diamond supply. You do realize 90% of the diamonds are being held onto in order to manipulate the current price to stay at it's relatively high price point. That's the same with Ophion, we can't do anything about that... it's just how it works.

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