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December 11, 2016, 10:09:21 PM
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I also sent a message to Woody20285, maybe he will write a short article for us.
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December 11, 2016, 10:19:15 PM
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Isn't it possible to be part of the newsletter of Cryptopia? We need to alert the coinholders who forgot about their 42 Coin long time ago. I can do some Twitter promotion, but that's not enough I am afraid.

Actually, there are not so many coinholders. I sent a PM to some of them, who were the most active in the 42 threads. You can help to collect others nicks whom maybe I missed. Here are these threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=399658.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406311.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=407967.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425307.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220610.0

Since they forgot about their savings u can throw them all in the oven and fire up ur burning stove. Nobody will find u guilty in burning trashy scraps.

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December 11, 2016, 10:21:29 PM
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I also sent a message to Woody20285, maybe he will write a short article for us.

Woody is busy. Try to contact harrelson.

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December 11, 2016, 10:43:53 PM
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I also sent a message to Woody20285, maybe he will write a short article for us.

Woody is busy. Try to contact harrelson.

Thank you. I left a message via contact form on the site.
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December 12, 2016, 12:00:09 AM
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Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their have to be horror stories on losing your wallet..      

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December 12, 2016, 12:09:34 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=25129;sa=showPosts;start=0

these are Hendo420 last posts from bitcointalk
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December 12, 2016, 12:31:30 AM
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All this talk about distribution is good news to me. I had not seen the post about what happens to unclaimed coins. I had figured they would be lost into oblivion. The voting system sounds good. Of course finding original owners is the best. But I imagine many have long dropped and left their coins or lost as mentioned:

Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their is have to be horror stories and losing your wallet..     


Adding more time to swap could help, but what about the 84 coin limit? If you can keep mining old 42, people could swap those, taking the place of the original owners. I suppose it is 1st come 1st serve and there's likely to be many unclaimed coins anyway. Just a thought I had.

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December 12, 2016, 04:12:34 AM
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All this talk about distribution is good news to me. I had not seen the post about what happens to unclaimed coins. I had figured they would be lost into oblivion. The voting system sounds good. Of course finding original owners is the best. But I imagine many have long dropped and left their coins or lost as mentioned:

Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their is have to be horror stories and losing your wallet..     


Adding more time to swap could help, but what about the 84 coin limit? If you can keep mining old 42, people could swap those, taking the place of the original owners. I suppose it is 1st come 1st serve and there's likely to be many unclaimed coins anyway. Just a thought I had.



Great Idea;
until this address is swapped out the swap stays open
old chain 42 continues to mine, and the only value is to exchange the old42 for new42.

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December 12, 2016, 07:44:41 AM
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Great Idea;
until this address is swapped out the swap stays open
old chain 42 continues to mine, and the only value is to exchange the old42 for new42.


Correct me if I am wrong, but you are saying that until the unclaimed coins are swapped the swap will be open?

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December 12, 2016, 09:08:11 AM
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All this talk about distribution is good news to me. I had not seen the post about what happens to unclaimed coins. I had figured they would be lost into oblivion. The voting system sounds good. Of course finding original owners is the best. But I imagine many have long dropped and left their coins or lost as mentioned:

Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their is have to be horror stories and losing your wallet..     


Adding more time to swap could help, but what about the 84 coin limit? If you can keep mining old 42, people could swap those, taking the place of the original owners. I suppose it is 1st come 1st serve and there's likely to be many unclaimed coins anyway. Just a thought I had.



Yes, you are right. Didn't think about the mining on the old chain. How much is mined there right now? Is it substantial? We need to find a compromis, on the other hand give olf coin holders the opportunity to SWAP, otherwise don't keep the old coin miners mining to much.

Old 42coin owners will FUD the shit out the new coin when they hear about it l in a few months and aren't able to SWAP anymore. That's not good for a coin. Wait another month and start spreading the word about the SWAP more and promote it more. This can be evidence that we did our best to reach to everyone.

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December 12, 2016, 09:12:50 AM
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All this talk about distribution is good news to me. I had not seen the post about what happens to unclaimed coins. I had figured they would be lost into oblivion. The voting system sounds good. Of course finding original owners is the best. But I imagine many have long dropped and left their coins or lost as mentioned:

Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their is have to be horror stories and losing your wallet..     


Adding more time to swap could help, but what about the 84 coin limit? If you can keep mining old 42, people could swap those, taking the place of the original owners. I suppose it is 1st come 1st serve and there's likely to be many unclaimed coins anyway. Just a thought I had.



Yes, you are right. Didn't think about the mining on the old chain. How much is mined there right now? Is it substantial? We need to find a compromis, on the other hand give olf coin holders the opportunity to SWAP, otherwise don't keep the old coin miners mining to much.

Old 42coin owners will FUD the shit out the new coin when they hear about it l in a few months and aren't able to SWAP anymore. That's not good for a coin. Wait another month and start spreading the word about the SWAP more and promote it more. This can be evidence that we did our best to reach to everyone.

We can put this to a vote (?).
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December 12, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
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I need somebody who can help me with the article. We need to edit or write a new one instead of this: http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/42-coin-the-revival-big-changes-coming-soon/.
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December 12, 2016, 09:29:49 AM
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I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

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December 12, 2016, 09:51:24 AM
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I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

A bounty will be available after the swap (if there is no objection), when unclaimed coins will go to the community fund.
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December 12, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
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Thanks for your info!

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December 12, 2016, 10:25:46 AM
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its kinda old article. but there is alot of creative folks out here who would help..  Lasergun, is there anyway to explorer the chain block and check for any accounts that have any "Dents" and havent been used say after for an example threshold of jan 1 of 2015?? maybe we can say those accounts an be considered lost and what would be the total amount if any accounts were dormant before 2015? maybe we can use that as total missing that needs to be re-mined??  
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its kinda old article. but there is alot of creative folks out here who would help..  Lasergun, is there anyway to explorer the chain block and check for any accounts that have any "Dents" and havent been used say after for an example threshold of jan 1 of 2015?? maybe we can say those accounts an be considered lost and what would be the total amount if any accounts were dormant before 2015? maybe we can use that as total missing that needs to be re-mined??  

There is no way to check exactly, are these accounts dormant or lost. We will vote.
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December 12, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
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How to vote:

1. Open your wallet. Go to "Settings" >> "Options..." >> "Display" >> Check "Display coin control features (experts only!) >> "OK".



2. Go to "Send coins" >> "Inputs..." >> Check "List mode" >> Check the address from where to vote (="your voting address"), copy this address to clipboard >> "OK".




3. Check "custom change address" >> paste from the clipboard "your voting address". Enter the address of the selected voting option.
4. Enter "Amount: 1 Dents".




5. Click on "Send" button.

It is not a paid voting. You do not need to send more than 1 dent (0.00000001), only the sender's balance is taken into account when calculated.
If you want to add more power to your vote, just send to yourself ["your voting address"] more coins (and vice versa).

Votes from anonymous (long) addresses are not accepted because it is impossible to calculate the correct balance on such addresses. Also, you can not vote for different options from one voting address, these votes will not be counted.
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December 12, 2016, 12:47:59 PM
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I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

A bounty will be available after the swap (if there is no objection), when unclaimed coins will go to the community fund.

I know a guy who can help with the article. I will sent you his email by PM.

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It seems I'm a little late to the voting party. I just want to add this though.


I wouldn't want to keep the swap open, at least for new mined old 42 coins. But I'm not sure it would affect the market value. There will still only be 42 coins, it would just be a mining race to get the unclaimed coins. However that could effect the new network as many people would continue to support the old chain. To conclude I would say close the swap for new old 42 coins.

I did see a post somewhere from Lasergun (I think) about closing swap for new coins but allowing those with untouched old coins to swap after the deadline. I could support that. Not the same as checking for dead accounts but if I understand correctly there is a record of when coins are moved/created. If that was an option I would say have a deadline for late swap too.

I'm not sure about a faucet for this coin either. The limited supply makes giving small amounts away cost prohibitive. The transaction fee would be a large percentage of anything you send. I'm not suggesting we adjust the fee, its important for PoS miners. You could make the faucet amount larger but the high value of the coin means every claim is a lot of money. Perhaps keeping some for contests would be good. Its just a matter of who holds the coin. Again with the high value, you need community trust. But having a community fund controlled by voting works for me.

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