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Question: [CLOSED] Round 2. Should we increase the minimum recommended tx fee in order to motivate PoW-miners (this will also increase the deflation rate)?
1) change to 0.00001000
2) leave the  0.00000001

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January 09, 2017, 03:17:31 PM
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There shouldn't be this option: "Continue until the unclaimed coins are swapped:" because there are people who probably forgotten about 42, lost their wallet due to data corruption and could be used to troll, someone could say "There's one dent left! We can't continue until this dent is swapped!" There would be no moving forward.

This option means that miners will continue to mine the old coins and swap them for the new (and sell every day) until the last coins are swapped. As for the us, we will continue as we continue...

Good. I'm glad that's cleared up.
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January 09, 2017, 03:23:37 PM
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That could be a possibility. I would prefer we go with option 1. If you don't like the other options vote your coins to something else so the last option will not win.

If we will vote for different options, then the last option will win.
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January 09, 2017, 03:36:37 PM
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I think that the swap can be finished and switch to new 42, the more that we understand that normal blockchain, not narozeniny smart contracts,anonymization and other chips has a greater prospect on other blockchains, although it can be
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January 09, 2017, 03:45:21 PM
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There shouldn't be this option: "Continue until the unclaimed coins are swapped:" because there are people who probably forgotten about 42, lost their wallet due to data corruption and could be used to troll, someone could say "There's one dent left! We can't continue until this dent is swapped!" There would be no moving forward.

This option means that miners will continue to mine the old coins and swap them for the new (and sell every day) until the last coins are swapped. As for the us, we will continue as we continue...

obviously it is a bad idea to swap old unlimited coins that will be mined after January,
but why not to let people who don't read the announcement regularly and don't know about the swap, or have the wallet (on Cryptopia etc) which is stuck now, to swap their coins later?

like you said (fair):

I will let the people to swap after the January, 2017, if their old coins were not touched after the block #1990382...

would be a good option to vote.

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January 09, 2017, 03:56:01 PM
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I will let the people to swap after the January, 2017, if their old coins were not touched after the block #1990382...

This is in force.
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January 09, 2017, 04:11:06 PM
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I will let the people to swap after the January, 2017, if their old coins were not touched after the block #1990382...

This is in force.

ok, then maybe to edit a little this option Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped
and let people vote for it again?

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January 09, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
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ok, then maybe to edit a little this option Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped
and let people vote for it again?

It is not fair to change the rules during the game. Person who voted for #5 monitors the results/forum and can change his vote simply by moving funds from his voting address.
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January 09, 2017, 04:26:57 PM
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ok, then maybe to edit a little this option Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped
and let people vote for it again?

It is not fair to change the rules during the game. Person who voted for #5 monitors the results/forum and can change his vote simply by moving funds from his voting address.

but how can they change their vote if there is no option now Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped ?

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January 09, 2017, 04:37:50 PM
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but how can they change their vote if there is no option now Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped ?

They do not need to vote for this option, it was proclaimed before:

I will let the people to swap after the January, 2017, if their old coins were not touched after the block #1990382...

Also in the rules:

If you want to add more power to your vote, just send to yourself ["your voting address"] more coins (and vice versa).
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January 09, 2017, 04:47:34 PM
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but how can they change their vote if there is no option now Continue until the unclaimed coins (that were not touched after the block #1990382) are swapped ?

They do not need to vote for this option, it was proclaimed before:

I will let the people to swap after the January, 2017, if their old coins were not touched after the block #1990382...

Also in the rules:

If you want to add more power to your vote, just send to yourself ["your voting address"] more coins (and vice versa).

ok, thank you for explaining and confirming it,
I was a little disoriented with your post:

Voting will take place only on key matters relating to the use of 42 community fund (4VsEs7wqRpoiTpmqViWRtse1P3CNgvBw4g). It's not my coins and I will not take a dent without the consent of the other holders. In addition, voting raises consciousness and activates the community.

it is a fair decision to let people swap their untouched coins even after the end of swap period,

good luck!

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January 09, 2017, 05:06:48 PM
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Updated voting results:

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Finish as planned: 4Lb9eN1NR9xwRGfPVZECTn9kJixC2w13Ft  -  37.93(9.59)%
Finish as planned, but make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VidfRCNtGmaK6vZNQQYGPxfbfCrduefni  -  0.50(0.13)%
Extend for 1 month: 4TLpUKQvEMxAe4QcPDrZEnnHLeYjx5ixsL  -  0%
Extend for 1 month & make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VoUkQ6idjWy6xcp5gpHKfPWezX6HoEbSt  -  0.06(0.01)%
Continue until the unclaimed coins are swapped: 4EKssN8MmBUHs96ZPbTtoxoVFmXkeqRtuP  -  61.51(15.56)%
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January 09, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
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I am waiting more than two days to withdraw my coins from Cryptopia. The wallet on their site still shows it's in maintenance.

Here is their reply to me..

'Sorry for the inconvenience, I've cancelled the withdraw for you for now.

We're working to defrag the wallet inputs as the balances are made up of so many tiny transactions that we are unable to build such a large transaction.

Cheers,

Hex

The Cryptopia Team'

So, i suggest you should definitly wait until cryptopia can fix it.
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January 09, 2017, 05:20:58 PM
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That could be a possibility. I would prefer we go with option 1. If you don't like the other options vote your coins to something else so the last option will not win.

If we will vote for different options, then the last option will win.

Yes I understand that. I don't know how much voting power everyone has. It may be possible for a single person to pick any option and make it a majority (as is already shown). I didn't want to tell anyone what to vote for.
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January 09, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
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There shouldn't be this option: "Continue until the unclaimed coins are swapped:" because there are people who probably forgotten about 42, lost their wallet due to data corruption and could be used to troll, someone could say "There's one dent left! We can't continue until this dent is swapped!" There would be no moving forward.


That could be a possibility. I would prefer we go with option 1. If you don't like the other options vote your coins to something else so the last option will not win.




I would suggest transferring leftovers and unclaimed dust to better place - to chinese cryptsy. Tomorrow is 3y anniversary of 42 coin launch on cryptsy. Trading should be resumed here.
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January 09, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
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I am waiting more than two days to withdraw my coins from Cryptopia. The wallet on their site still shows it's in maintenance.

Here is their reply to me..

'Sorry for the inconvenience, I've cancelled the withdraw for you for now.

We're working to defrag the wallet inputs as the balances are made up of so many tiny transactions that we are unable to build such a large transaction.

Cheers,

Hex

The Cryptopia Team'

So, i suggest you should definitly wait until cryptopia can fix it.

Transfer works. All transferred to my account coins will be swapped.
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January 09, 2017, 08:33:12 PM
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Updated voting results (it seems that someone has changed his mind):

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[Voters: 9.77%]  When we should finish the swap?
Finish as planned: 4Lb9eN1NR9xwRGfPVZECTn9kJixC2w13Ft  -  98.27(9.6)%
Finish as planned, but make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VidfRCNtGmaK6vZNQQYGPxfbfCrduefni  -  1.30(0.13)%
Extend for 1 month: 4TLpUKQvEMxAe4QcPDrZEnnHLeYjx5ixsL   - 0 (0%)
Extend for 1 month & make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VoUkQ6idjWy6xcp5gpHKfPWezX6HoEbSt  -  0.15(0.01)%
Continue until the unclaimed coins are swapped: 4EKssN8MmBUHs96ZPbTtoxoVFmXkeqRtuP  -  0.28(0.03)%
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January 09, 2017, 10:39:42 PM
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Hi Lasergan how can I transfer my 42 to your account ,if I cannot go to withdraw?/?
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January 09, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
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I have a 4 coins for swap....that is not a small amount. and 1 coin I will keep. I have had these coins for a while in Cryptopia, there are not new from mining. I am not a miner.
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January 10, 2017, 12:03:06 AM
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Well I did send 4.077 to your name from cryptopia.nz  It is interesting that this was the only option in there. No way to get  the coins to my wallet.And no answer from Hex till now...
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January 10, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
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wow, 4.077.    well then you can help us..  we need some dots coin for cryptopia to reopen the 42-coin market..  Lasergun how much do you need?? ive been sending some donations of dots coin for this ... 
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