[ANN] 42-coin Development Discussion Thread

[Lasergun]

All this talk about distribution is good news to me. I had not seen the post about what happens to unclaimed coins. I had figured they would be lost into oblivion. The voting system sounds good. Of course finding original owners is the best. But I imagine many have long dropped and left their coins or lost as mentioned:

Well the folks from Cryptsy would have their own ledger for their own bookkeeping on their coins they manage I would think thats the first place for tracking investors to find the lost coins.. I know personally ive lost .12 of a 42coin from losing my wallet.dat  (flash drive) by accident..   I know their is have to be horror stories and losing your wallet..     

Adding more time to swap could help, but what about the 84 coin limit? If you can keep mining old 42, people could swap those, taking the place of the original owners. I suppose it is 1st come 1st serve and there's likely to be many unclaimed coins anyway. Just a thought I had.

Yes, you are right. Didn't think about the mining on the old chain. How much is mined there right now? Is it substantial? We need to find a compromis, on the other hand give olf coin holders the opportunity to SWAP, otherwise don't keep the old coin miners mining to much.

Old 42coin owners will FUD the shit out the new coin when they hear about it l in a few months and aren't able to SWAP anymore. That's not good for a coin. Wait another month and start spreading the word about the SWAP more and promote it more. This can be evidence that we did our best to reach to everyone.

We can put this to a vote (?).

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[Lasergun]

I need somebody who can help me with the article. We need to edit or write a new one instead of this: http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/42-coin-the-revival-big-changes-coming-soon/.

[farl4web]

I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

[Lasergun]

I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

A bounty will be available after the swap (if there is no objection), when unclaimed coins will go to the community fund.

[mmo4me.2016]

Thanks for your info!

[sirslayer]

its kinda old article. but there is alot of creative folks out here who would help..  Lasergun, is there anyway to explorer the chain block and check for any accounts that have any "Dents" and havent been used say after for an example threshold of jan 1 of 2015?? maybe we can say those accounts an be considered lost and what would be the total amount if any accounts were dormant before 2015? maybe we can use that as total missing that needs to be re-mined??  

[Lasergun]

its kinda old article. but there is alot of creative folks out here who would help..  Lasergun, is there anyway to explorer the chain block and check for any accounts that have any "Dents" and havent been used say after for an example threshold of jan 1 of 2015?? maybe we can say those accounts an be considered lost and what would be the total amount if any accounts were dormant before 2015? maybe we can use that as total missing that needs to be re-mined??  

There is no way to check exactly, are these accounts dormant or lost. We will vote.

[Lasergun]

How to vote:

1. Open your wallet. Go to "Settings" >> "Options..." >> "Display" >> Check "Display coin control features (experts only!) >> "OK".

2. Go to "Send coins" >> "Inputs..." >> Check "List mode" >> Check the address from where to vote (="your voting address"), copy this address to clipboard >> "OK".


3. Check "custom change address" >> paste from the clipboard "your voting address". Enter the address of the selected voting option.

4. Enter "Amount: 1 Dents".

5. Click on "Send" button.

It is not a paid voting. You do not need to send more than 1 dent (0.00000001), only the sender's balance is taken into account when calculated.
If you want to add more power to your vote, just send to yourself ["your voting address"] more coins (and vice versa).

Votes from anonymous (long) addresses are not accepted because it is impossible to calculate the correct balance on such addresses. Also, you can not vote for different options from one voting address, these votes will not be counted.

[farl4web]

I know someone who probably can help. Is there a bounty for that?

A bounty will be available after the swap (if there is no objection), when unclaimed coins will go to the community fund.

I know a guy who can help with the article. I will sent you his email by PM.

[kev2011]

It seems I'm a little late to the voting party. I just want to add this though.


I wouldn't want to keep the swap open, at least for new mined old 42 coins. But I'm not sure it would affect the market value. There will still only be 42 coins, it would just be a mining race to get the unclaimed coins. However that could effect the new network as many people would continue to support the old chain. To conclude I would say close the swap for new old 42 coins.

I did see a post somewhere from Lasergun (I think) about closing swap for new coins but allowing those with untouched old coins to swap after the deadline. I could support that. Not the same as checking for dead accounts but if I understand correctly there is a record of when coins are moved/created. If that was an option I would say have a deadline for late swap too.

I'm not sure about a faucet for this coin either. The limited supply makes giving small amounts away cost prohibitive. The transaction fee would be a large percentage of anything you send. I'm not suggesting we adjust the fee, its important for PoS miners. You could make the faucet amount larger but the high value of the coin means every claim is a lot of money. Perhaps keeping some for contests would be good. Its just a matter of who holds the coin. Again with the high value, you need community trust. But having a community fund controlled by voting works for me.

[tolikkk]

the crane has the meaning of with transactional and commissions for POS are very good, but only with a lot of people, if I'm not mistaken, 42 POS with transactions, but the price should be for four or five zeros to the fucet was in demand

[kev2011]

I think I found a typo in the OP. Here at #2 on the timeline it say the swap ends Jan 10 2016.

1. Release a wallet for Windows and Linux with anon tx support and limited money supply / 22.11.2016 - done.
2. Swap/burn the old coins for new (2 old for 1 new) / 29.11.2016 - 10.01.2016 (until we reach 84 coins @ block #1990382 + 42 hours) - IN PROGRESS!
3. Close the cryptopia markets for the old 42 and open for the new 42 / 10.01.2017
4. Release a wallet for Mac and Android / Jan-Feb 2017
5. Make a website / Spring 2017
6. Add 42 to more exchanges / 1st half 2017
7. Build a strong network and community.

[Lasergun]

It seems I'm a little late to the voting party. I just want to add this though.

You are not late. Voting is just started, please vote: simply send 1 dent (0.00000001 42) to the address with the appropriate option:
Full instruction is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502028.msg17159268#msg17159268.

1. Finish swap as planned: 4Lb9eN1NR9xwRGfPVZECTn9kJixC2w13Ft.
2. Finish swap as planned, but make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VidfRCNtGmaK6vZNQQYGPxfbfCrduefni.
3. Extend swap for 1 month: 4TLpUKQvEMxAe4QcPDrZEnnHLeYjx5ixsL.
4. Extend swap for 1 month and make additional free coin distribution via faucets, giveaways, etc.: 4VoUkQ6idjWy6xcp5gpHKfPWezX6HoEbSt.
5. Continue to swap until the unclaimed coins are swapped: 4EKssN8MmBUHs96ZPbTtoxoVFmXkeqRtuP.

[kev2011]

the crane has the meaning of with transactional and commissions for POS are very good, but only with a lot of people, if I'm not mistaken, 42 POS with transactions, but the price should be for four or five zeros to the fucet was in demand

True the only reward for securing the network is from transaction fees. But PoS doesn't take a lot of resources compared to mining. All coins will go into the 0 reward phase. In order for any coin to survive there needs to be some that mine without guarantee of reward (thats a serious concern I have for Bitcoin). I intend to run my wallet always, to support the new network.

Yes if the community wants to run a faucet with the high reward, I would support.

[sirslayer]

to vote are we using the new or old wallet?

[Lasergun]

voting?? on the new or old wallet?

On the new wallet. Please, read the full instruction here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502028.msg17159268#msg17159268.

[Lasergun]

No need to send more than 1 dent (0.00000001 42). If you want to add more power to your vote, you just need to send to yourself ("your voting address") more coins.

[sirslayer]

i just voted and it went out of sync??

[sirslayer]

nevermind, just a little lag in the network?  send only 1 dent to the vote address and to add voting power by sending it to yourself??  i think i might of screwed up i sent .00001 to the voting address ..  ive never voted before

[sirslayer]

thank you !!