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He already went bust once before. Chances are he will again, let's have some friendly bets to whether he does or does not bust ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I bet 250 LIR he busts, anyone thinks he won't we can raise the stakes with escrow if you like? I can take that bet if we raise that bet to 2000 LIR ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If you are okay with it, you can find an escrow and send me in pm. So you want to bet 2000 he doesn't bust right? I'm cool with that ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) add me to your game just incase it will go through. i can wager 500LIR for him not to bust it all until the end of the tournament. he is already holding very good amount which most likely a sure win now ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) like you say there is less chance he will bust out so a good bet would be those who bet againt the bust 2/1 they bet 500 and get 250 plus stake if he doesnt bust. those who bet for him to bust 1/2 so they bet 500 and win 1000 stake back they get 1500. as an example ofcourse and a spreadsheet would need to be started by escrow if we play such a game. would be fun, do i get a hell yeah? yeah, a trusted escrow should step up here so we can play the game in a fair way but hopefully the stakes won't reach 30k LIR as the leading user in the tournament can easily manipulate the game xD
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August 11, 2016, 11:46:42 AM |
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Given that Siameze is using a bought account, what makes you think anything he said about this supposed 'accidental' sell off was true?
You're all being played and the ones screeching about how terrible we are for exposing the truth are the ones playing you.
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August 11, 2016, 11:49:22 AM |
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Compare the value of the account that should be returned and the loss of value to investors. Try to deal with this with the help of administrators and not spamming this forum with market affecting statements.
Compare the value of the account and the loss of value to investors.
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August 11, 2016, 11:55:24 AM |
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Given that Siameze is using a bought account, what makes you think anything he said about this supposed 'accidental' sell off was true?
You're all being played and the ones screeching about how terrible we are for exposing the truth are the ones playing you.
i'm lost more 50% from investment, some guys i think even more. Coin as i understand dead and facking devs left. So, do you happy now? or maybe i can pay to you some btc for your work?
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August 11, 2016, 11:56:07 AM |
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Compare the value of the account that should be returned and the loss of value to investors. Try to deal with this with the help of administrators and not spamming this forum with market affecting statements.
Compare the value of the account and the loss of value to investors. 'market affecting statements'? You mean the truth is negatively affecting your investment value? At which point is it going to sink in that there never was going to be a commercially-viable gambling site? You gave these scumbags over $250,000 and they gave you lies and a cheap script-based website. Because you *do* realise, right, that all the talk of a decentralised Lisk-based development in the works was just another lie they told to pad out the fake image they were creating through Eric's Phoenix account over on the Lisk forums? They never were working with Lisk and never were going to be working with Lisk. They are criminal fraudsters. Stop deluding yourself that this project was ever going to be anything more than an attempt to fleece you all for as much as they could keep this pretence going for. you're not terrible, your just not very bright are you Wow. Just. Wow. I didn't say he didn't dump those coins. I said he didn't dump those coins by accident as he claims. He is one of the scammers, idiot.
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August 11, 2016, 12:14:35 PM |
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Please nobody quote the "Ignored user" he is on repeat and the only reason he is here is working for that damn pump group. Should be ashamed of yourselves.
it's good, but where devs ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Do you think it normal, that they offline in so hot situations?
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August 11, 2016, 12:44:16 PM |
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Dev, you should add a rolls remaining box in the auto-bot interface so we can see how many rolls remained from an entered number. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 11, 2016, 12:56:05 PM |
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Given that Siameze is using a bought account, what makes you think anything he said about this supposed 'accidental' sell off was true?
You're all being played and the ones screeching about how terrible we are for exposing the truth are the ones playing you.
i'm lost more 50% from investment, some guys i think even more. Coin as i understand dead and facking devs left. So, do you happy now? or maybe i can pay to you some btc for your work? Are you muppets still butthurt - what's it been, 20, 30 pages - about your dev's sham being exposed? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FOWEhR6.jpg&t=665&c=TMW8UxRh_Yhy0g) Do you think that cryptodevil orchestrated this shit and dumped millions of coins on you? Who would ever do such idiocy? Or what is it exactly that you're accusing CD of? Maybe you should start by asking yourselves who has millions to dump. These must be the dumbest paycoiners I've ever seen outside of Paycoin proper. Don't worry, your super-honest dev will buy it back for 20 a piece.
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August 11, 2016, 01:32:46 PM Last edit: August 11, 2016, 01:58:50 PM by cryptodevil |
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paid in peanuts to hurt investors That doesn't even make sense. Who would be paying us to expose the criminal fraud behind this ICO? More importantly, why do you consider the exposing of this criminal fraud a malicious act whereby we are somehow at fault for your shitty investment decisions? As I said before, just how far did you think these conmen were going to go with this 'Let It Ride' bullshit platform? Beyond the shitty web-script they gave you, I mean? How far are you claiming they would have gone in developing a properly-viable commercial-grade gambling platform if their scammy asses hadn't been exposed? They haven't developed a thing here. A clone coin and a shitty website along with a pack of lies about who they were and what they were going to do with Lisk DApps. You can't possibly be labouring under the impression they were actually going to deliver all of this, are you? They were dicking you around from the start and continued to dick you around for fun and even more profit on the Yobit exchange. But we're the bad guys? Come on.
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August 11, 2016, 01:41:24 PM |
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paid in peanuts to hurt investors That doesn't even make sense. Who would paying us to expose the criminal fraud behind this ICO? More importantly, why do you consider the exposing of this criminal fraud a malicious act whereby we are somehow at fault for your shitty investment decisions? As I said before, just how far did you think these conmen were going to go with this 'Let It Ride' bullshit platform? Beyond the shitty web-script they gave you, I mean? How far are you claiming they would have gone in developing a properly-viable commercial-grade gambling platform if their scammy asses hadn't been exposed? They haven't developed a thing here. A clone coin and a shitty website along with a pack of lies about who they were and what they were going to do with Lisk DApps. You can't possibly be labouring under the impression they were actually going to deliver all of this, are you? They were dicking you around from the start and continued to dick you around for fun and even more profit on the Yobit exchange. But we're the bad guys? Come on. The only FACT is that LIR price is now in shit. All the rest is just speculation. Nobody has clear evidence on anything. Just few screenshots, and useless words of anonymous individuals.
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August 11, 2016, 01:46:01 PM |
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Any word from the dev regarding to the bought acc yet?
yeah plenty of times. Open your eyes and read the thread to follow along. No, the current user of the Phoenix1969 account has still not responded to my request that he provide the information of who gave him control of the account or the suggestion that he return control of the account to the creator of the account. There has been no response by either team lead or the Phoenix account user on the matter for several days now.
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August 11, 2016, 03:47:47 PM |
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People like cryptodevil are much worse and more dangerous than actual scammers. Whereas an actual scammer will scam you out of a single transaction or even build some bogus ICO, cryptodevil will go around white knighting thinking they're doing God's work and cleaning up crypto, and inadvertently causing people to lose large sums of money on potentially legitimate investments due to baseless allegations. This has the potential to kill legitimate projects. Forget LIR.
Furthermore, cryptodevil is heavily abusing the trust function of bitcointalk and probably should be banned. The trust function is used for exposing people who directly scam you out of btc, not for when you have a stinky feeling about a coin.
The information is out there. The only reason for cryptodevil or other's crying scam to still be name calling and making wild accusations is FUD. There's no other way around it, there is no new information to be gained. If you think devs will deliver, invest. If you don't, don't. It is beautifully simple.
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August 11, 2016, 04:11:41 PM |
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Are you muppets still butthurt - what's it been, 20, 30 pages - about your dev's sham being exposed?
its clear the only butthurt are you and your buttbuddies shouting from the roofs how bad it is and how many of us investors give a rats ass, even with the red trust? come on you fks give me it as well for investing in a project and not crying when you tell me i should. if not carry on showing your true dirty colors. paid in peanuts to hurt investors, hang your head in shame. Ummmm.... no. People like cryptodevil are much worse and more dangerous than actual scammers. Whereas an actual scammer will scam you out of a single transaction or even build some bogus ICO, cryptodevil will go around white knighting thinking they're doing God's work and cleaning up crypto, and inadvertently causing people to lose large sums of money on potentially legitimate investments due to baseless allegations. This has the potential to kill legitimate projects. Forget LIR.
Furthermore, cryptodevil is heavily abusing the trust function of bitcointalk and probably should be banned. The trust function is used for exposing people who directly scam you out of btc, not for when you have a stinky feeling about a coin.
The information is out there. The only reason for cryptodevil or other's crying scam to still be name calling and making wild accusations is FUD. There's no other way around it, there is no new information to be gained. If you think devs will deliver, invest. If you don't, don't. It is beautifully simple.
You lose money when you invest in a scam, not when someone exposes it. You lose your money when you choose to be ignorant instead of informed. On the other hand, if the LIR dev is an honest person (kinda hard to imagine this plot twist but let's pretend) then he/she doesn't "give a rats ass" as the poster above put it and you'll be rich regardless of what CD says or does. Having said that, the "trolles and fudsters destroyed a legitimate project" argument cracks me up every time. So at least there is entertainment value in whatever it is you think you're doing here. Keep going.
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August 11, 2016, 04:27:45 PM |
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Are you muppets still butthurt - what's it been, 20, 30 pages - about your dev's sham being exposed?
its clear the only butthurt are you and your buttbuddies shouting from the roofs how bad it is and how many of us investors give a rats ass, even with the red trust? come on you fks give me it as well for investing in a project and not crying when you tell me i should. if not carry on showing your true dirty colors. paid in peanuts to hurt investors, hang your head in shame. Ummmm.... no. People like cryptodevil are much worse and more dangerous than actual scammers. Whereas an actual scammer will scam you out of a single transaction or even build some bogus ICO, cryptodevil will go around white knighting thinking they're doing God's work and cleaning up crypto, and inadvertently causing people to lose large sums of money on potentially legitimate investments due to baseless allegations. This has the potential to kill legitimate projects. Forget LIR.
Furthermore, cryptodevil is heavily abusing the trust function of bitcointalk and probably should be banned. The trust function is used for exposing people who directly scam you out of btc, not for when you have a stinky feeling about a coin.
The information is out there. The only reason for cryptodevil or other's crying scam to still be name calling and making wild accusations is FUD. There's no other way around it, there is no new information to be gained. If you think devs will deliver, invest. If you don't, don't. It is beautifully simple.
You lose money when you invest in a scam, not when someone exposes it. You lose your money when you choose to be ignorant instead of informed. On the other hand, if the LIR dev is an honest person (kinda hard to imagine this plot twist but let's pretend) then he/she doesn't "give a rats ass" as the poster above put it and you'll be rich regardless of what CD says or does. Having said that, the "trolles and fudsters destroyed a legitimate project" argument cracks me up every time. So at least there is entertainment value in whatever it is you think you're doing here. Keep going. If the full LIR site launches, will cryptodevil be around to apologize to the weak hands who let their investment go at 1/3 value? Will anyone of the fudders face the music and take responsibility for misleading investors? No, of course not. He/they will have moved on to the next stinky smelling project, trying to kill it, leaving a wake of destruction in their path, thinking they're doing the community a service. This is very unhealthy for the crypto ecosystem. If a scam is suspected, then one should try to get to the bottom of it, not make baseless accusations and blatantly spread fud, trying to destroy the scammer at the expense of the investors by destroying their asset. Hell there are still people trying to say ethereum is a scam.
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August 11, 2016, 04:55:37 PM |
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If the full LIR site launches, will cryptodevil be around to apologize to the weak hands who let their investment go at 1/3 value? Will anyone of the fudders face the music and take responsibility for misleading investors? No, of course not. He/they will have moved on to the next stinky smelling project, trying to kill it, leaving a wake of destruction in their path, thinking they're doing the community a service.
This is very unhealthy for the crypto ecosystem. If a scam is suspected, then one should try to get to the bottom of it, not make baseless accusations and blatantly spread fud, trying to destroy the scammer at the expense of the investors by destroying their asset.
Hell there are still people trying to say ethereum is a scam.
How is it CD's or anyone's fault that the "weak hands" invested in the project to begin with, let alone sold at 1/3? You believe in the dev and you don't think the stolen accounts and cheap casino scripts and anything else matters for the future of the project == hodl and enjoy your riches. You invested without doing your homework and got spooked after learning some facts == well, tough shit. "trying to destroy the scammer at the expense of the investors by destroying their asset" has a bit of a logic issue, doesn't it? How would you propose to expose the scammer? Who's gonna be holding the bag in the end? Certainly not the scammer, 'cos HE'S GOT YOUR MONEY ALREADY and you got scammed the minute you gave it to the scammer, not when someone raised suspicions. To put it another way, if it's a scam there was no "asset" to begin with. If it's not a scam the "asset" hasn't gone anywhere.
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August 11, 2016, 05:41:38 PM Last edit: August 12, 2016, 04:37:36 AM by grue |
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This is Cryptoland.
We take risks here.
Risk/Reward ratio is huge
Some you win/ some you don't
Next!
Fuders, we are big boys here so no need to stay around here and keep posting. Go exercise or pop your pimples or get a job.
Move on!
PS every time you fuders post, it's another nail in the coffin of your pathetic life you live.
moderator note: removed annoying formatting.
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August 11, 2016, 05:43:00 PM |
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I have question please to the fudders. can you point me to where the dev brought cheap script because there have been bugs with the site the devs fixed themselves in a very speedy fashion pointing towards the fact that you are full of shit? which is known anyway of course. moving on how could it be proved to you that the devs are not using a cheap script as you say or even better how the fuck can you prove they are ? it is a very well designed an attractive site imo and i have not heard one other person say what you guys like to repeat every post. answer the question please and thanks
the facts will remain the same... "bought account"
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August 11, 2016, 06:30:00 PM |
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I have question please to the fudders. can you point me to where the dev brought cheap script because there have been bugs with the site the devs fixed themselves in a very speedy fashion pointing towards the fact that you are full of shit? which is known anyway of course. moving on how could it be proved to you that the devs are not using a cheap script as you say or even better how the fuck can you prove they are ? it is a very well designed an attractive site imo and i have not heard one other person say what you guys like to repeat every post. answer the question please and thanks
the facts will remain the same... "bought account" Dear innocent users, I think for the moderators it is not a problem that someone sell or buy accounts, and that is why it is allowed at here, someone bought the account so after that he is the owner of that account, just think if a person start a business and for that he buy a land to launch the company, will all of you cry to claim that he is scam, as he started his company with a bought land, and in the last I am requesting to the admin and global moderator that they come here and solve the issue and the only issue is their forum, that they are starting their business with account which they bought, and besides this everything is going legit from the devs i think ( as every user is claiming that they are completing their promises for the project), so the only problem to them is that they are relying on this forum for their business, I think the owners of this forum should have to come and have to solve the problem, and if this project is finished the dev will not lose any money they will only lose their business and only the members of this forum will lose their money who have invested at there,
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August 11, 2016, 07:06:24 PM |
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A few minutes ago, I saw that LiskDice advertised his project and his site at here (which now he removed) so from that it is proved that it is the liskDice (LID) team who is against this project and they want to make their ICO successful and want to destroy LIR .
so it mean LID team will do the same which they are spreading about LIR, mean they will run away to scam all of those who will invest in LID, and just look at their threads they are the exact copies of LIR , so with that they will either continue their struggle to destroy LIR or they will scam away showing to people that projects like that escape away with scam.
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