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peonminer
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June 09, 2013, 05:31:31 AM |
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Lol someone got their panties in a wad.
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muddafudda
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June 09, 2013, 06:21:15 AM |
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Either do something that doesn't cause some idiot to do a DoS or some technical protection. We have CloudFlare but don't pay for the full service which has DoS protection.
Right $200 for a month. If we get the $200, will you throw it behind that tier for a month. |
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June 09, 2013, 08:13:18 AM |
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We are under a DoS right now. Idiots. As a result, site is down and likely will be done forever
You must be doing something right to get negative attention. It'd be a shame to see this gone forever, but I'd totally understand. |
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Taxidermista
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June 09, 2013, 08:34:46 AM |
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WOW I like the price adjustment for stales !
That was the trigger for the attacks. |
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educatedwarrior
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June 09, 2013, 10:41:24 AM |
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I'm sorry, I thought it was pretty clear. Which part do you not understand?
Let me ask a question...
Do you think the miners job is to mine and hold the coins? Are they not allowed to profit from the work they do to secure your pick of the week CrapCoin? How long should a miner hold on to the CrapCoins he has mined before he can sell them?
LOL. Damn right! |
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manywelps
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June 09, 2013, 10:53:06 AM |
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You could have a script mirror the data to somewhere that no DDOS has a hope of touching... like a google spreadsheet, or a (sub)reddit wiki....
Then there would be no point in continuing the DDOS, when it's common knowledge where the backup is.
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educatedwarrior
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June 09, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
Last edit: June 09, 2013, 11:12:02 AM by educatedwarrior |
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Either do something that doesn't cause some idiot to do a DoS or some technical protection. We have CloudFlare but don't pay for the full service which has DoS protection.
You may need to setup api activation up as a service (or setup the whole site as a service) and then you could make the revenue to put your site under DDOS protection. I would donate 0.05 bitcoins a month. I'm sure you have more than 40 users. This is how mining pools are able to afford DDOS protection, they make revenue. |
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educatedwarrior
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June 09, 2013, 11:06:37 AM |
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I can understand certain people being angry with the service that coinchoose provides. But it does no good to simply DDoS coinchoose but not touch coinwarz or even dustcoin. Eventually the DDoS will either stop, or will move to those sites as well. Dustcoin sucks compared to coinchoose because it doesn't track many of the newer alt coins. Coinwars is useless for scripting because it doesn't have an API. So, coinchoose was the bullseye target. |
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swordfish6975
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June 09, 2013, 11:11:36 AM |
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somehow I predicted this about a month ago... hopefully he will get the site back up and better then ever... its not bad I guess, its dustcoin minus a few features. But meh...
Try not to use coinchoose as a data source - single point of failure - short term not so bad just cache his data? long term is bad very bad (if he decides to close permanently your stuffed)
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educatedwarrior
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June 09, 2013, 11:16:51 AM |
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somehow I predicted this about a month ago... hopefully he will get the site back up and better then ever... its not bad I guess, its dustcoin minus a few features. But meh...
Try not to use coinchoose as a data source - single point of failure - short term not so bad just cache his data? long term is bad very bad (if he decides to close permanently your stuffed)
If coinwarz enabled api, that would remove the single point of failure. |
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swordfish6975
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June 09, 2013, 11:21:15 AM |
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somehow I predicted this about a month ago... hopefully he will get the site back up and better then ever... its not bad I guess, its dustcoin minus a few features. But meh...
Try not to use coinchoose as a data source - single point of failure - short term not so bad just cache his data? long term is bad very bad (if he decides to close permanently your stuffed)
If coinwarz enabled api, that would remove the single point of failure. The post from a month ago was not directed at miners using the data for auto switching. It was for a site ( http://www.minetips.com) that was using coinchoose data. I agree that if there was multiple sites with APIs this would be the only easy way for redundancy. |
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educatedwarrior
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June 09, 2013, 11:51:17 AM |
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You could have a script mirror the data to somewhere that no DDOS has a hope of touching... like a google spreadsheet, or a (sub)reddit wiki....
Then there would be no point in continuing the DDOS, when it's common knowledge where the backup is.
This may be a good idea as well since Google already has DDOS protection in place. I believe you can send an api call to google docs spreadsheet. Never tried it though. |
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sal002 (OP)
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June 09, 2013, 12:49:04 PM |
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imagine all the babies crying right now because of this
Because some immature little whiny people decide to destroy a free service? Look, all I present is data. People who fear data are losers, for lack of a better term. I am never going to charge anyone and all data is verifiable. I will look at sweeping the data to Google Docs so it is free |
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dubs
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June 09, 2013, 12:54:44 PM |
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imagine all the babies crying right now because of this
Because some immature little whiny people decide to destroy a free service? Look, all I present is data. People who fear data are losers, for lack of a better term. I am never going to charge anyone and all data is verifiable. I will look at sweeping the data to Google Docs so it is free dude with your stupid service people pump and dump.. what good is that! I am so glad this site is down! |
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sal002 (OP)
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June 09, 2013, 12:59:43 PM |
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All I was doing was presenting the data that also is still out there.What is really concerning is people like you who don't want people to have that information.
People pump and dump on their own (I have nothing to do with what price they sell for)
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sal002 (OP)
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June 09, 2013, 01:15:18 PM |
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Either do something that doesn't cause some idiot to do a DoS or some technical protection. We have CloudFlare but don't pay for the full service which has DoS protection.
Right $200 for a month. If we get the $200, will you throw it behind that tier for a month. Yes |
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gyverlb
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June 09, 2013, 01:21:28 PM |
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imagine all the babies crying right now because of this
Because some immature little whiny people decide to destroy a free service? Look, all I present is data. People who fear data are losers, for lack of a better term. I am never going to charge anyone and all data is verifiable. I will look at sweeping the data to Google Docs so it is free dude with your stupid service people pump and dump.. what good is that! I am so glad this site is down! pump and dump is market manipulation on exchanges, it has almost nothing to do with switching from coin to coin based on profitability. Miners by definition sell coins, they don't pump (buy) then dump (sell). If you believe people waited for coinchoose to switch from coin to coin based on profitability you are sorely mistaken. To give you an example, I only have one command to launch and 3 config files to edit for adding a new coin to my setup. This includes automatically compiling the coin daemon from the git repository, adding an init script for it and launching it. My setup then distributes the configuration to the rigs needed to solo-mine and adapts to the new coin. It parses the exchanges rates, uses the local daemon to find out the actual mean reward including fees, computes an estimation of the orphan rate and fine-tune it from the rate of orphan my rigs mine. When the data is in it starts to switch rigs to the coin if it is the most profitable for a rig (it uses the sha256d and scrypt efficiency of each rig to make this decision). I'm even warned when: - the coin becomes popular enough that solo-mining becomes gambling so that I configure P2Pool for this coin or create a pool account,
- the original git repo is updated
- the coin is dying and may be removed from my configuration
I don't use coinchoose anymore (I did briefly as a source for exchange rates but I prefer to develop more elaborate decision algorithms) so if you think DoSing coinchoose will prevent people from switching from coin to coin, it's only true for the less serious miners that don't/can't code a dynamic setup like mine. Linking coinchoose to pump and dump is simply ridiculous. |
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dingdingli
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June 09, 2013, 01:41:06 PM |
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We are under a DoS right now. Idiots. As a result, site is down and likely will be done forever
HI,friend!I'm from China ,I use your open source API build a site,you are very great,thanks for you hard work. This morning I found the my site doesn't work,so i know that your site has broken ,i want to know ,when your site come back?A lots of chinese user send same problem via email ask me . |
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June 09, 2013, 02:08:56 PM |
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Using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, but a broadcast address on BitMessage, based on the little I know of BitMessage, seems like an possible solution to this? I wonder if anyone more knowledgeable about it can comment?
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sal002 (OP)
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June 09, 2013, 02:16:21 PM |
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Back up.
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