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July 31, 2017, 02:49:07 AM
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To mine this coin. Whether to use only HDD or have to use graphic?
Is there a tutorial how to mine this coin?
thanks.
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July 31, 2017, 04:58:27 AM
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To mine this coin. Whether to use only HDD or have to use graphic?
Is there a tutorial how to mine this coin?
thanks.
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You only need hard drive space.

This is ok tutorial: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@cardboard/mining-burstcoin-hdd-is-all-you-need-tutorial-for-newbies


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August 01, 2017, 03:48:51 AM
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To mine this coin. Whether to use only HDD or have to use graphic?


 None of my machines that mine BURST use a GPU - it makes for something useful for your CPU to do while the GPUs are mining something else.

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August 01, 2017, 10:30:36 PM
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None of my machines that mine BURST use a GPU - it makes for something useful for your CPU to do while the GPUs are mining something else.


Mining with a GPU client like https://github.com/de-luxe/burstcoin-jminer/releases can reduce the read time of your plots up to 50% compared to CPU Miners.
Of course Im not talking about to use a high-end GPU for this  Wink

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August 02, 2017, 08:12:22 AM
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None of my machines that mine BURST use a GPU - it makes for something useful for your CPU to do while the GPUs are mining something else.


Mining with a GPU client like https://github.com/de-luxe/burstcoin-jminer/releases can reduce the read time of your plots up to 50% compared to CPU Miners.
Of course Im not talking about to use a high-end GPU for this  Wink

 Funny part - JMiner running on an AMD A10 series or FX series *CPU* (yes, AMD has had OpenCL support for their CPUs for a very long time now) runs faster than Blago by commonly 30-50%.
 I'm not sure how Intel compares there, though Intel has offered OpenCL support for their CPUs for a while too.


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August 02, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?
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August 02, 2017, 08:45:43 AM
Last edit: August 02, 2017, 09:53:52 AM by abudfv2008
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?
I don't know if anobody knows for sure. Everything that can be found is about faster plotting and not about optimal mining. What about MB/s? I get 42Mb per drive on one PC. And 60Mb on another with the same drives. Their reading speed is 100+ (8Tb Seagate Archive) So why i don't get this speed - i don't know. Do I need it to be as fast as possible or i can't influence that and it actually has mediocre effect?
E.g. 100TB 10Mb/s = 50TB 100MB/s. Is it so or not there is no such info.

I wasn't able to find any info about that. The only thing is "more TB - better" and "1 core per HDD". That's all. For what GPU is needed in mining when CPU load is 70% maximum, i don't know. 1 drive or 4 drives on 2core CPU - no change in speed per drive - 42Mb. Why?

Why there is "minimal TB" for some pools and no minimum for others? With other altcoin mining it doesn't matter - you will get according to your hashrate and luck of the pool (however on a long run luck equalises). With Burst it isn't so - why?

Miner doesn't show any statistics like hashrate or something else clear. Only some info that doesn't make any sence. (while i understand the idea of deadlines itself, but the info doesn't make sence with how fast you are, how much coins you mine) On pools there is some info which I don't know how to interpret. Actually the interface of pools is hard to understand: no hashrates, no mBTC/TB/Day, no graphs, no miners info. With normal mining - you change miner/overclock and see the result almost immideately, you can see what miners are most used, but not with Burst.
There is some correlation with the size but it is not evident. For example 50TB can get less than 5Tb.
The calculator gives 3 times more numbers than you really get.

The sites/pools are down most of the time. Main site is always down. I was able to access online wallet from app maybe 2 times. Local wallet never sync - it just hangs doing nothing at different percent synced and thats all Only Clean DB restarts it from scratch ... till some percent. I can only access wallet from burstation site.
There is no clear guide/howto explaining all that things that are much different from what we got used to with normal altcoin mining.

So many questions and no answers.

IMHO burst team do nothing to popularize the Burst. Seems to me that they only struggle with ddosing and blockchain hacking.
If the wallet doesn't sync - why not to simply download biggest part and sync the rest? Or at least add a link to the blockchain file in the wallet so the user doesn't need to search google and download it from some unknown source? It's simple, it can help network (as said above), but it is not done. Why?
What is easier that to publish FAQ about all the questions I have in post. I'm sure every Burst miner ask them.
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August 02, 2017, 09:32:53 AM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?
I don't know if anobody knows for sure. Everything that can be found is about faster plotting and not about optimal mining. What about MB/s? I get 42Mb per drive on one PC. And 60Mb on another with the same drives. Their reading speed is 100+ (8Tb Seagate Archive) So why i don't get them - i don't know. Do I need it to be as fast as possible or i can't influence that and it actually has small effect?
I wasn't able to find any info about that. The only thing is more TB = better and 1 core per HDD. That's all. For what GPU is needed when CPU load is 70% maximum, i don't know. 1 drive or 4 drives on 2core CPU - no change in speed per drive - 42Mb. Why?
Miner doesn't show any statistics like hashrate or someting else. Only some info that doesn't make any sence. On pools there is some info which I don't know how to interpret.
There is some correlation with the size but it is not evident. For example 50TB can get less than 5Tb.
The calculator gives 3 times more numbers than you really get.

The sites/pools are down most of the time. Main site is always down. I was able to access online wallet from app maybe 2 times. Local wallet newer sync - it just hangs doing nothing at different percent synced and thats all Only Clean DB restarts it from scratch ... till some percent. I can only access wallet from burstation site.
There is no clear guide/howto explaining all that things that are much different from what we got used to with normal altcoin mining.

So many questions and no answers.


Hey friend. Burst is in a funk right now. It actually really easy to get started. There is no hashrate in burst. When you plot for example 50tb its linked to your account. The miners simply read that data and look for a deadline which can win the next block. Now. As for speed 40mb/s is fine. The reality is that with very optimized plotting you can get it to read faster but it takes 47 seconds for my 8tb drive to be read which is less than the average block time. Having faster reads is better but not a deciding factor for if you will win a block or not. Im currently mining with 20tb and make 30-40 burst a day give or take. All depends. If you do manage to find a block you will earn much much more.The miner will usually just display what point in the drive its reading at. The entire network underwent a ddos not to long ago and is still recovering. Many of the sites are still down and many of the pools. Im currently mining on  pool.burstmining.club and it has been working well for the last few days. Good luck.
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August 02, 2017, 09:34:02 AM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?

I would recommend to buy 8TB HDDs like the Seagate Iron Wolf PMR-HDD and not any slow HDD like Seagte Archiv wich is a SMR-HDD
For example with my I7 Xeon CPU I plott a single 8TB PMR-HDD within 48h. I tried the same with a SMR Archive HDD and it was 3 times slower!

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August 02, 2017, 10:02:19 AM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?

I would recommend to buy 8TB HDDs like the Seagate Iron Wolf PMR-HDD and not any slow HDD like Seagte Archiv wich is a SMR-HDD
For example with my I7 Xeon CPU I plott a single 8TB PMR-HDD within 48h. I tried the same with a SMR Archive HDD and it was 3 times slower!

better to know this information since i'm aiming to have my own mining set up this is very helpful just wondering whether plotting/mining burst
still brings good profits or its just break even and depend if the current market value will rise up?
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August 02, 2017, 10:07:07 AM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?

I would recommend to buy 8TB HDDs like the Seagate Iron Wolf PMR-HDD and not any slow HDD like Seagte Archiv wich is a SMR-HDD
For example with my I7 Xeon CPU I plott a single 8TB PMR-HDD within 48h. I tried the same with a SMR Archive HDD and it was 3 times slower!

better to know this information since i'm aiming to have my own mining set up this is very helpful just wondering whether plotting/mining burst
still brings good profits or its just break even and depend if the current market value will rise up?

Still, we have a chance that we can make some profit through mining because still, the price of Burst is low. Even I kept buying some cheap coin when ever I have some Bitcoin right now I am not a situation to buy high configured hardware in order to mine burst.
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August 02, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
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For the moment i want to believe that the burst price is rising again to 1000 satoshis but it needs for sure some more time to let the network calm down!
For myself i stil mine burst with a little gear of 16TB in ricos pool https://burst.cryptoguru.org/ with 0% fee and going to stay with it.

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Hey friend. Burst is in a funk right now. It actually really easy to get started. There is no hashrate in burst. When you plot for example 50tb its linked to your account. The miners simply read that data and look for a deadline which can win the next block. Now. As for speed 40mb/s is fine. The reality is that with very optimized plotting you can get it to read faster but it takes 47 seconds for my 8tb drive to be read which is less than the average block time. Having faster reads is better but not a deciding factor for if you will win a block or not. Im currently mining with 20tb and make 30-40 burst a day give or take. All depends. If you do manage to find a block you will earn much much more.The miner will usually just display what point in the drive its reading at. The entire network underwent a ddos not to long ago and is still recovering. Many of the sites are still down and many of the pools. Im currently mining on  pool.burstmining.club and it has been working well for the last few days. Good luck.
Thank you. But you are just repeating what others say.
I ploted with cpu plotter and as i understand the are optimized already.
But what about numbers? What about influence of MB/s? What about "find block - get much much more" - what is it exacly. Wow much? What is the chance, what does it depends on? I mean in exact numbers, not the "the more TB -the  better".
Why 40 on one PC and 60 on another. Why 40 with one drive and 160 with 4 drives(40 per drive) with 2core CPU? Why no difference? But more than that - what is the exact influence of speed in numbers?
I mean if 50Mb/s = XX Burst than 100Mb/s = XX Burst + 2% (20% .... 100%)?

What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?

I would recommend to buy 8TB HDDs like the Seagate Iron Wolf PMR-HDD and not any slow HDD like Seagte Archiv wich is a SMR-HDD
For example with my I7 Xeon CPU I plott a single 8TB PMR-HDD within 48h. I tried the same with a SMR Archive HDD and it was 3 times slower!
It doesn't make sence. Price is much different and speed difference is only when plotting. But you can avoid it. I wrote a bat file which plotted on SSD, then moved plot to SMR in cycle. It's nothing complex in that.
Anyway - the time to plot is miserable compared to ROI - so the cheapest drive wins the game.
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August 02, 2017, 12:04:27 PM
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What is the best hardware to mine Burst, bros?

I would recommend to buy 8TB HDDs like the Seagate Iron Wolf PMR-HDD and not any slow HDD like Seagte Archiv wich is a SMR-HDD
For example with my I7 Xeon CPU I plott a single 8TB PMR-HDD within 48h. I tried the same with a SMR Archive HDD and it was 3 times slower!


 While the Archive drives are somewhat slower to plot, they MINE just fine and tend to be less expensive (unless you get lucky on an external drive purchase like I did once and it has a Compute instead of an Archive).

 Total waste of money to buy the faster stuff JUST BECAUSE IT PLOTS FASTER.


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August 02, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
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Total waste of money to buy the faster stuff JUST BECAUSE IT PLOTS FASTER.

Total waste of money to spend day by day with plotting HDDs instead of mining and earn money with faster stuff!

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August 02, 2017, 06:06:21 PM
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Total waste of money to buy the faster stuff JUST BECAUSE IT PLOTS FASTER.

Total waste of money to spend day by day with plotting HDDs instead of mining and earn money with faster stuff!

1) Slow plotting can be avoided
2) How much you will mine for that difference in days? 1$ or 2? I think less then 1$.
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 The reality is that with very optimized plotting you can get it to read faster but it takes 47 seconds for my 8tb drive to be read which is less than the average block time

 My current "big miner" runs on an AMD FX-8570, and currently has an 8TB Archive and a 8TB Compute (and a smaller drive) - the Compute reads about 5% faster than the Archive, and BOTH are under 40 seconds using Blago's miner if I'm not doing anything else on the machine.

 Anything under a minute is tolerable IMO, anything under 30 secs is very good - it's all about getting read before the next block pops up, and it's pretty rare for a block to take less than 30 secs and somewhat uncommon for it to take less than 1 minute.




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Total waste of money to buy the faster stuff JUST BECAUSE IT PLOTS FASTER.

Total waste of money to spend day by day with plotting HDDs instead of mining and earn money with faster stuff!


 A few days of lost income at a COST difference that greatly exceeds the lost income is NOT worth it.


 Exception for if you get lucky on buying an external 8TB that turns out to NOT have an Archive - then it's no difference in the cost.



 I'm not stating that the Archive drives are ALWAYS the low cost option - sometimes something else in on sale for less - I'm just stating that AVOIDING them because they take longer to plot makes ZERO sense if the alternatives are more than a couple bucks higher in cost.

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 The reality is that with very optimized plotting you can get it to read faster but it takes 47 seconds for my 8tb drive to be read which is less than the average block time

 My current "big miner" runs on an AMD FX-8570, and currently has an 8TB Archive and a 8TB Compute (and a smaller drive) - the Compute reads about 5% faster than the Archive, and BOTH are under 40 seconds using Blago's miner if I'm not doing anything else on the machine.

 Anything under a minute is tolerable IMO, anything under 30 secs is very good - it's all about getting read before the next block pops up, and it's pretty rare for a block to take less than 30 secs and somewhat uncommon for it to take less than 1 minute.
Thats fine, but what is it in numbers? If I get 45secs I get XXXBursts. And if i get under 23secs I get XXX Burst + 2%/10%/20%/..... ?

With gpu miner (actually integrated Video) I get these:

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2017-08-03 00:54:48.450  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : -------------------------------------------------------
2017-08-03 00:54:48.485  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : START block '388488', scoopNumber '3283', capacity '31989 GB'
2017-08-03 00:54:48.508  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       :       targetDeadline '12096000', baseTarget '107259', genSig '9c94db..'
2017-08-03 00:54:48.693  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '312187502' > '12096000' skipped
2017-08-03 00:54:48.693  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 1% done (0TB 80GB), avg.'80 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:54:48.742  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '146094717' > '12096000' skipped
2017-08-03 00:54:48.927  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '123372263' > '12096000' skipped
2017-08-03 00:54:49.005  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '38522605' > '12096000' skipped
2017-08-03 00:54:50.176  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '1404181' send (pool) [nonce '4012165637']
2017-08-03 00:54:50.476  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.core.round.Round        : dl '10526983' queued
2017-08-03 00:54:51.069  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 12% done (3TB 623GB), avg.'337 MB/s', eff.'364 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:54:51.578  INFO 7140 --- [skExecutor-1210] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       :       winner block '388487', 'BURST-RD7L-VYSA-MVGG-2GUPA'
2017-08-03 00:54:51.628  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.core.round.Round        : dl '8881138' queued
2017-08-03 00:54:53.423  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 23% done (7TB 167GB), avg.'351 MB/s', eff.'367 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:54:54.472  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.core.round.Round        : dl '3358695' queued
2017-08-03 00:54:54.975  INFO 7140 --- [skExecutor-1211] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : dl '1404181' confirmed!  [ 16d 6h 3m 1s ]
2017-08-03 00:54:55.824  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 34% done (10TB 710GB), avg.'354 MB/s', eff.'360 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:54:58.151  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 45% done (14TB 253GB), avg.'358 MB/s', eff.'371 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:00.598  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-44] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 56% done (17TB 797GB), avg.'357 MB/s', eff.'353 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:02.930  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 67% done (21TB 340GB), avg.'359 MB/s', eff.'370 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:05.756  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 78% done (24TB 931GB), avg.'351 MB/s', eff.'310 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:08.243  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-45] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 90% done (28TB 475GB), avg.'351 MB/s', eff.'347 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:09.398  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-41] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : read 'G:/Burst/plots' (7TB 994GB) in '20s 948ms'
2017-08-03 00:55:11.025  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-44] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : read 'D:/Burst/plots' (7TB 998GB) in '22s 574ms'
2017-08-03 00:55:11.487  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-45] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : read 'F:/Burst/plots' (7TB 998GB) in '23s 36ms'
2017-08-03 00:55:11.750  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : 100% done (31TB 989GB), avg.'335 MB/s', eff.'244 MB/s'
2017-08-03 00:55:11.750  INFO 7140 --- [  readerPool-46] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : read 'E:/Burst/plots' (7TB 998GB) in '23s 299ms'
2017-08-03 00:55:12.001  INFO 7140 --- [    roundPool-1] burstcoin.jminer.JMinerCommandLine       : FINISH block '388488', best deadline '1404181', round time '23s 301ms'

The problem is that I don't see any difference in earnings between CPU miner, which runs only 160MB/s. The earnings fluctuates each day by 2 ... 5 ... 10 times.
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August 02, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
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Total waste of money to buy the faster stuff JUST BECAUSE IT PLOTS FASTER.

Total waste of money to spend day by day with plotting HDDs instead of mining and earn money with faster stuff!


 A few days of lost income at a COST difference that greatly exceeds the lost income is NOT worth it.


 Exception for if you get lucky on buying an external 8TB that turns out to NOT have an Archive - then it's no difference in the cost.



 I'm not stating that the Archive drives are ALWAYS the low cost option - sometimes something else in on sale for less - I'm just stating that AVOIDING them because they take longer to plot makes ZERO sense if the alternatives are more than a couple bucks higher in cost.



Ok maybe I should think smaller...i have started burst mining with 7x 8TB HDDs and my workstation was busy with plotting them for more than 16 days/24h (one time I had a blue screen after 36h  Angry )
Plotting the same TBs on SMR HDDs with my setup could be easy took more than 42 days! Thats to much time for me and my workstation CPU under 100% fire.

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