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December 31, 2022, 10:15:59 AM
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Thanks for sharing your story to is,there is a lot to learn from it.Congratulations to you once again.
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December 31, 2022, 11:10:18 AM
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Thank you sir for this detailed and well analysed story of yours. Some of us have picked one or two information from it.

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December 31, 2022, 07:32:12 PM
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Hal Finney's twitter came to life.

The account was revived by his wife and launched a fundraising marathon to find a cure for the illness that Hal died from. Donations are accepted in bitcoins.

Generally, it would not be good to post from the account of a deceased person; however, it seems that this situation may well be an exception to such rule based on what Hal's wife Fran had said her intentions were to make sure that Hal's account was not deleted due to lack of activity due to some recent policies and/or algorithms that Elon seems to have been implementing at Twitter.  So, therefore Fran had said that the reason that she was posting through Hal's account was to attempt to lessen the chances that Hal's Twitter account would be deleted. I cannot remember where I had heard that information, perhaps on a bitcoin-related podcast in which the topic of Hal's Twitter account was being discussed?

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Hal Finney's twitter came to life.

The account was revived by his wife and launched a fundraising marathon to find a cure for the illness that Hal died from. Donations are accepted in bitcoins.

Generally, it would not be good to post from the account of a deceased person; however, it seems that this situation may well be an exception to such rule based on what Hal's wife Fran had said her intentions were to make sure that Hal's account was not deleted due to lack of activity due to some recent policies and/or algorithms that Elon seems to have been implementing at Twitter.  So, therefore Fran had said that the reason that she was posting through Hal's account was to attempt to lessen the chances that Hal's Twitter account would be deleted. I cannot remember where I had heard that information, perhaps on a bitcoin-related podcast in which the topic of Hal's Twitter account was being discussed?
I don't understand why his account shouldn't be deleted. All his tweets are certainly already archived somewhere in several places, so there is no need for his account to stay alive IMO, used by someone else in addition. No one can say if he would agree with these tweets on his behalf. Moreover his account can be hacked, and used for deceiving and scamming people, like what happened with the gmx email address of Satoshi Nakamoto, and one day his tweets could even be modified by his widow or someone else if the feature becomes available.

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This is @franfinney. I am tweeting for Hal (as @pavlenex thought) to avoid his account being purged by Elon.
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June 28, 2023, 05:54:57 PM
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I have recently just found out about Hal and I am blessed to know that this person lead the way for me to be here right now. You will be forever remembered!
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June 29, 2023, 08:44:47 AM
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I have recently just found out about Hal and I am blessed to know that this person lead the way for me to be here right now. You will be forever remembered!

I congratulate you for making such discovery because the bitcoin history is never complete without referring Hal Finney of a blessed memory, i will advise you go through this thread he has created from the first page down to the last to make more discoveries, also try to use the forum search engine to look into other threads created which talks about same Hal, i bet you will never regret having an encounter with his legacy he has left behind because he's a true legend.



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August 01, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
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this is not necessarily about Hal, but since he was certainly closely involved with Satoshi
(if not with Satoshi Nakamoto Nakamoto, then at least with his close neighbour Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto)

I would like to put this out here about the double whitespace riddle:

https://vimhelp.org/options.txt.html#%27joinspaces%27

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         'joinspaces' 'js' 'nojoinspaces' 'nojs'
'joinspaces' 'js'   boolean   (default on)
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   Insert two spaces after a '.', '?' and '!' with a join command.
   When 'cpoptions' includes the 'j' flag, only do this after a '.'.
   Otherwise only one space is inserted.
   NOTE: This option is set when 'compatible' is set.

Could this be the explanation for this quirk in Satoshis writings?

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August 30, 2023, 01:44:29 PM
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https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1696084162820661665
"On this day 9 years ago, the #Bitcoin community lost one of its initial contributors and the first person to receive a #Bitcoin transaction, Hal Finney.

May you forever be running #Bitcoin "

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I don't know about that shirt but something tells me it's not worth that much, as much as people consider it as a piece of history, I guess they should've created a more aesthetically pleasing uniform Grin. Pretty awesome though that Hal's legacy is still there, I hope he had also given his wife the account to his forum account.



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https://twitter.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1696084162820661665
"On this day 9 years ago, the #Bitcoin community lost one of its initial contributors and the first person to receive a #Bitcoin transaction, Hal Finney.

May you forever be running #Bitcoin "
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I would like to put this out here about the double whitespace riddle:
Most people of the age of 45 (today) or so or older would have been taught to type on a typewriter or using typewriter technique:  You put two spaces after a period.  Word processors made this practice antiquated because their automated typesetting does it for you (technically putting a space and a half after a full stop).  Many people who originally learned to put in two spaces stopped if they've spent a lot of time using MSFT word, which nags you for doing it.  It's also not always clear when people are doing it because because common typesetting (including in browsers) doesn't render it as two spaces.

But for those of us who learned the typewriter ways and haven't been heavy MS word users the practice continues.

Here are some random pre-2008 (to show that I didn't do it because of Satoshi) mailing list posts by me where you can see me using two spaces after periods:

https://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2007-November/001181.html
https://marc.info/?l=reiserfs-devel&m=110878382927801&w=2

My usage is a little less consistent than Satoshi's and has gone up and down over the years (I think mostly depending on which keyboards I was using, weirdly-- I think I most consistently an extra space when typing on a model M-- most similar to the keyboards I learned on, and do so less consistently on a laptop.)  This is by no means unique to me-- scan around in other messages on those lists, mostly written by tech experts a little older than me and you'll see that many other people use two spaces after periods (even in some of the posts by others that I'm quoting).  It's also possible that this was or wasn't Satoshi's native style, but he might have consistently used it in order to leave less of a stylometry signature.  He was trying to conceal his identity after all (and it's not like stylometry was some unknown thing back then).

I think the fact that people keep talking about it like it's some kind of mystery shows the deep intellectual bankruptcy of the whole speculating-about-satoshi enterprise: the people doing it are too careless or too incompetent to sort out the simplest facts.
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I would like to put this out here about the double whitespace riddle:
Most people of the age of 45 (today) or so or older would have been taught to type on a typewriter or using typewriter technique:  You put two spaces after a period.  Word processors made this practice antiquated because their automated typesetting does it for you (technically putting a space and a half after a full stop).  Many people who originally learned to put in two spaces stopped if they've spent a lot of time using MSFT word, which nags you for doing it.  It's also not always clear when people are doing it because because common typesetting (including in browsers) doesn't render it as two spaces.

But for those of us who learned the typewriter ways and haven't been heavy MS word users the practice continues.

Here are some random pre-2008 (to show that I didn't do it because of Satoshi) mailing list posts by me where you can see me using two spaces after periods:

https://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2007-November/001181.html
https://marc.info/?l=reiserfs-devel&m=110878382927801&w=2

My usage is a little less consistent than Satoshi's and has gone up and down over the years (I think mostly depending on which keyboards I was using, weirdly-- I think I most consistently an extra space when typing on a model M-- most similar to the keyboards I learned on, and do so less consistently on a laptop.)  This is by no means unique to me-- scan around in other messages on those lists, mostly written by tech experts a little older than me and you'll see that many other people use two spaces after periods (even in some of the posts by others that I'm quoting).  It's also possible that this was or wasn't Satoshi's native style, but he might have consistently used it in order to leave less of a stylometry signature.  He was trying to conceal his identity after all (and it's not like stylometry was some unknown thing back then).

I think the fact that people keep talking about it like it's some kind of mystery shows the deep intellectual bankruptcy of the whole speculating-about-satoshi enterprise: the people doing it are too careless or too incompetent to sort out the simplest facts.


I would like to similarly point out that the occasional text editor *ahem* has to be explicitly told not to put two spaces after a period by enabling "French Spacing" for when you auto-reformat a paragraph.

This appears to me to be a generational disconnect between fashion and aesthetics, and typographic habit. I would fully expect that in the dark-ages of usenet as well, that the double-space after the period would have a histogram over time that just drops slowly as the old style fell out of .. fashion.

I find it irritating that anyone is focusing so much on this minor, completely arbitrary and capricious detail. To me, it is a very strong indicator of a weak mind who considers minor details in Satoshi's English output even relevant as a stylometric detail for fingerprinting in the first place.
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the user RIZZO posted a tweet today showing a 25 year old talk by Hal Finney. the title of the talk is: 'A Zero-Knowledge Proof of Possession of a Pre-Image of a SHA-1 Hash' and the whole video lasts 5:45 minutes


https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1704522067582894293

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