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May 05, 2014, 04:08:50 AM
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Being part of the project could be possible.  It would make sense.

His getting a terminal disease after the project was done makes sense too, but I don't know Hal's family history.  There could be a good explanation to his sudden diagnosis, like a family history with the same disease.

There's reason to be paranoid.  Odd deaths and suicides surrounding cryptos.

The NameCoin Dev recently died and not a single word in the media.

Why is that weird?

He was only 27.  And he died of a heart attack.

If you're a dev in the crypto space you should be careful what you say and don't own any nail-guns.

Speaking of which:  I say way too much.  Like right now for instance.

Here's another: http://www.jsonline.com/business/autumn-radtkes-death-in-singapore-ruled-unnatural-raises-questions-b99222948z1-250011411.html
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May 05, 2014, 05:24:46 AM
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Here's some that appear to have much more cause and motive than the META CEO.

And there are more, multiple world class cryptographers who disappeared or died mysteriously at young ages right before Bitcoin was launched.  Definitely good fodder for any good conspiracy theorist.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/bitcoin-claims-its-first-real-victim

http://www.cso.com.au/article/392338/young_cryptographer_ends_own_life/

http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/11/a-spy-dead-in-a-bag-police-see-an-accident.html

http://www.dailycal.org/2014/04/01/uc-berkeley-computer-science-graduate-student-dies-26/

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May 05, 2014, 05:44:59 AM
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Here's some that appear to have much more cause and motive than the META CEO.

And there are more, multiple world class cryptographers who disappeared or died mysteriously at young ages right before Bitcoin was launched.  Definitely good fodder for any good conspiracy theorist.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/bitcoin-claims-its-first-real-victim

http://www.cso.com.au/article/392338/young_cryptographer_ends_own_life/

http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/11/a-spy-dead-in-a-bag-police-see-an-accident.html

http://www.dailycal.org/2014/04/01/uc-berkeley-computer-science-graduate-student-dies-26/

REST IN PEACE PARAIPAN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.0 as well.
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May 05, 2014, 05:54:02 AM
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I can't find much on paraipan.

What would a potential motive be to snuff him out?

Cause people do die all the time and there's millions of people in this community now.

If he was working on something like say a coin which would truly be anonymous or anything like that then the odds of foul play would sky rocket.

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May 05, 2014, 06:06:04 AM
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I can't find much on paraipan.


Leukemia?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.msg6387352#msg6387352
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May 05, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
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I found that.

I can't find a potential motive.

If you look at some of the other guys they were true geniuses and involved in code cracking cryptography or anonymity technology.  Both crucial to Bitcoin's survival and crucial to keep Bitcoin centralized and NOT anonymous and NOT decentralized like Andreas and all the experts keep lying to the TV watching masses.

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May 05, 2014, 08:03:03 AM
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Thank you for sharing!  I feel happy to know you are staying strong despite being in a pretty poor predicament.  Maybe somewhere your friend Satoshi reads this too and smiles. 

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May 06, 2014, 02:46:40 AM
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Thank you for story! You are an incredibly strong person. I admire  the your spirit's strength.

PS. You used a paper wallet to store BTC in your safe deposit box or other wallet?




Total newbie asking Hal where and how exactly he stored his Bitcoins.

Hahahaaa.

Crypto Scammers know no bounds.

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May 06, 2014, 07:02:50 AM
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Thank you for story! You are an incredibly strong person. I admire  the your spirit's strength.

PS. You used a paper wallet to store BTC in your safe deposit box or other wallet?




Total newbie asking Hal where and how exactly he stored his Bitcoins.

Hahahaaa.

Crypto Scammers know no bounds.

I am guessing he thought the thread was started today since replies bump the post to the top.



Nah, he deleted his post after I confronted him.

He's a scammer for sure looking to rob helpless people.

I really really dislike scammers.  Like the ZET devs whom are now clearly known to have lied and scammed people for some 2 months.   I tried to warn everyone but nobody believed me. 

It's really sad cause lots of inexperienced people come in and they believe these scammers and they get taken for everything they got and then Cryptos get a bad rap on top of it.

We need some oversight, some enforcement of the rule of law in CryptoLand.

But until then I need to launch CoinTruth .com to educate people and make a list of all the known scammers out there.  A website you can trust and which may end up saving you a lot of money by redlining scammers and ScamCoins.

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May 06, 2014, 05:18:57 PM
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How many btc do you lost in the crash of 2011?  Why do you continue to use Bitcoin after that?

PS I like your optimism and fortitude!
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May 07, 2014, 11:02:11 PM
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Thank you for story! You are an incredibly strong person. I admire  the your spirit's strength.

PS. You used a paper wallet to store BTC in your safe deposit box or other wallet?




Total newbie asking Hal where and how exactly he stored his Bitcoins.

Hahahaaa.

Crypto Scammers know no bounds.

I am guessing he thought the thread was started today since replies bump the post to the top.



Nah, he deleted his post after I confronted him.

He's a scammer for sure looking to rob helpless people.

I really really dislike scammers.  Like the ZET devs whom are now clearly known to have lied and scammed people for some 2 months.   I tried to warn everyone but nobody believed me. 

It's really sad cause lots of inexperienced people come in and they believe these scammers and they get taken for everything they got and then Cryptos get a bad rap on top of it.

We need some oversight, some enforcement of the rule of law in CryptoLand.

But until then I need to launch CoinTruth .com to educate people and make a list of all the known scammers out there.  A website you can trust and which may end up saving you a lot of money by redlining scammers and ScamCoins.

That's a good idea! If you get it up and running, I'd be the first to donate something.

Make sure you add user FreeTrade for his 2 Memorycoin scams.

You should, or someone should have it tiered by known scammers, huge premine, suspected scams, up front donation/investment requests etc.....

You could have a site that is really informative and widely traveled!
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May 07, 2014, 11:17:27 PM
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I am leaning toward Hal being Satoshi. The onset of ALS and Satoshi leaving at the same time is a pretty big coincidence. Then throw in Hal's proof of work and coming and going and coming back corresponding to Satoshi's presence in the opposite way. I think it's a safe bet, Hal has something to do with Satoshi's identity.

The guy is dying, has maybe months to live and doesn't have enough money for treatment.

If he is Satoshi do you think he's waiting for a resurrection to use those 800,000 Bitcoins in his wallet or to get his claim to fame?

Or do you think he's afraid the Feds will track him to his grave and kill him a second time?

Let's get real.

At most, Hal helped create BTC, but I would say even that is a stretch, albeit, a possibility.

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May 08, 2014, 02:26:45 AM
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good story  Smiley

u give me spirit after read your post.
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May 08, 2014, 04:45:39 AM
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ALS is such a horrible disease which I hope we start to get a handle on in the future. He is an inspiration. I have had the honor of caring for several people affected by this disease and I will say he is not the exception, but the rule.

He served to harden the framework of bitcoin in the very early days and we all owe him a debt of gratitude to making our lives (even those who don't use bitcoin) just a little more secure.
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May 08, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
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ALS is such a horrible disease which I hope we start to get a handle on in the future. He is an inspiration. I have had the honor of caring for several people affected by this disease and I will say he is not the exception, but the rule.

He served to harden the framework of bitcoin in the very early days and we all owe him a debt of gratitude to making our lives (even those who don't use bitcoin) just a little more secure.

ALS is a terrible terrible disease and its so sad that so little progress has been made even though it has been 80 years since Lou Gehrig's raised awareness. Its also sad that research budgets for fighting the disease are relatively small.

One organization working hard to fight ALS is ALSTDI (http://www.als.net/) . For anyone reading this, please consider them when you are deciding on your charitable giving.
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May 08, 2014, 02:42:20 PM
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The guy is dying, has maybe months to live and doesn't have enough money for treatment.

You know this how?  Hawking has lived with ALS for almost 50 years!
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May 08, 2014, 03:05:46 PM
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Great Story, Thanks so much Smiley

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May 08, 2014, 03:23:58 PM
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ALS is such a horrible disease which I hope we start to get a handle on in the future. He is an inspiration. I have had the honor of caring for several people affected by this disease and I will say he is not the exception, but the rule.

He served to harden the framework of bitcoin in the very early days and we all owe him a debt of gratitude to making our lives (even those who don't use bitcoin) just a little more secure.

ALS is a terrible terrible disease and its so sad that so little progress has been made even though it has been 80 years since Lou Gehrig's raised awareness. Its also sad that research budgets for fighting the disease are relatively small.

One organization working hard to fight ALS is ALSTDI (http://www.als.net/) . For anyone reading this, please consider them when you are deciding on your charitable giving.

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June 18, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
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The Great Hal Finney,

Firstly thanks for your Atari games, I from 70's so you made my childhood very happy ...

Can I ask a personal question about your ALS ? ... how is your eye movement  ? I'm not a neuroscientist just wondering how fast you can track Floaters ..



please fell free to delete my post whenever you wish ...

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June 18, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
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I just discovered this post and so I appreciate how late I am commenting.

However, what a diamond in the rough this post is, and what an inspiration Hal is.

Thank you for all that you have done for all of us. If some day I can look back on my life and confidently believe that I have made one tenth of the contributions you have, I will die a happy man.

I hope life is still good for you a year or so after you originally created this thread.
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