Save the planet or not

[RealBitcoin]

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

They will be, factories are already automated (except for poor countries with slave labour).

Most jobs are in supermarkets, they will be automated too, as new Japanese robots become widespread in supermarkets.

We will see a job loss rate of 80-90% in the next 10-15 years, so they will either be on welfare or do some kind of work online.

Even stuff like basic income is getting traction. I would prefer if they would just eliminate income taxes and deregulate commerce to get back some jobs.

i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Dont build cities near volcanoes. Most pollution is done from cars in the cities.

My neighbors are literally coughing like horses ,and they all have lungh problems. There is car dust on my window, I have to clean it every 2-3 days, because of the fucking cars. If I dont clean it every 2-3 days my window literally gets gray from the dust,and I cant see outside.

What do you think about that?

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[d@nte]

A lot of flaws, in fact. And yes, individuals must solve it.

[BADecker]

Most of the jobs are NOT done by robots. Consider Walmart and Target, a couple of the biggest employers in the world. No robots there, unless you consider that people are robots.

By time that people work online in a big way, nobody will need them for manufacturing or Walmart, because robots will do it all. The current ordering and processing part of Walmart and Target is large right now. And it has eliminated loads of jobs that used to be done by phone people. So, what else is there for the people? Nothing.

Nobody needs art; can't afford it anyway because of no job. Commerce doesn't manufacture anything; couldn't afford the products anyway because of no job.

They will be, factories are already automated (except for poor countries with slave labour).

Most jobs are in supermarkets, they will be automated too, as new Japanese robots become widespread in supermarkets.

We will see a job loss rate of 80-90% in the next 10-15 years, so they will either be on welfare or do some kind of work online.

Even stuff like basic income is getting traction. I would prefer if they would just eliminate income taxes and deregulate commerce to get back some jobs.

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

i do not trust government or god to improve or to protect the nature. i belive if i need to really save the world then its i who have to do the starting if i take some steps then i belive someone else will also follow me because we people always follow our surroundings actions

Technology is already taking  care of it, we see now cleaner cars being made, and power plants installing filters on their chimneys.

I just wish it would be faster, because too many people suffer from lungh problems.

All for nothing. More volcanic eruptions are making any car clean-up we do completely irrelevant.

Dont build cities near volcanoes. Most pollution is done from cars in the cities.

My neighbors are literally coughing like horses ,and they all have lungh problems. There is car dust on my window, I have to clean it every 2-3 days, because of the fucking cars. If I dont clean it every 2-3 days my window literally gets gray from the dust,and I cant see outside.

What do you think about that?

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

[mindrust]

Let the Allah solves it. He is being useless for a long time.

Jokes aside, this planet is too fucking crowded. And that happened because of capitalism. Or capitalism happened because of that. Whatever. Since we won't be able to kill Capitalism without reducing the number of people who live on earth, that's what we should aim for.

We need less people.

[RealBitcoin]

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Ok if I get out, but what about the other people. I have to pay for their socialized healthcare if they get lungh problems.... All cities should start to become clean and more green.

I would not even mind if they would start banning cars, at least tons of accidents and pollution would be avoided.

The problem with car accidents is that its never the perpetrator that dies but the innocent pedestrian that is hit by them.

What about the volcanoes? What can you do against those? That seems a natural phenomena. Earth is an active system, and there is a giant metal ball in the middle that moves the molten lava and the pressure can come out in any volcanoe. There are even volcanoes starting to become active that wasnt active for thousands of years.

[RealBitcoin]

And that happened because of capitalism.

Yea sure it's capitalism thats the problem.

I no way or shape it's the socialized healthcare and the welfare state that subsidises mindless breeding, especially in less developed areas.

[BADecker]

That's great. Get out of the cities.

This doesn't speak to the point that volcanoes produce a lot more pollution than we could almost think of producing without nukes.

Ok if I get out, but what about the other people. I have to pay for their socialized healthcare if they get lungh problems.... All cities should start to become clean and more green.

I would not even mind if they would start banning cars, at least tons of accidents and pollution would be avoided.

The problem with car accidents is that its never the perpetrator that dies but the innocent pedestrian that is hit by them.

What about the volcanoes? What can you do against those? That seems a natural phenomena. Earth is an active system, and there is a giant metal ball in the middle that moves the molten lava and the pressure can come out in any volcanoe. There are even volcanoes starting to become active that wasnt active for thousands of years.

That's the point. We aren't strong enough as a people to save the earth or not. We don't even really understand how ecology operates yet. If we did, the weatherman would be way more accurate.

[RealBitcoin]

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

So you think old people can't work? I'm not saying to start lifting weight, but there are lots of comfortable jobs for old people too.

Besides the pension system is a ponzi scheme and scam, there have been proven studies that people who don't have a goal in life die 20-30 years earlier.

The pension system makes you goal-less, domesticated slave that watches TV all day. It is a pretty evil thing to do with old people.

If they would start working and not going to pension, they would live 20-30 years more and would be much healtier.

I would not have to pay for forced pension scam, and the old people would be happy and healthy. WIN-WIN

[BADecker]

Withing the recent few years, some 94 million people in America alone don't have jobs that they once had. Sure, some of them retired. So, how are they living today? Welfare, social security, or out in the woods. Notice that the bloated money system is about to collapse because even government can't keep giving people money for free forever. When the money system collapses, big business and the "robot factories" will go down with it.

So you think old people can't work? I'm not saying to start lifting weight, but there are lots of comfortable jobs for old people too.

Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?

Besides the pension system is a ponzi scheme and scam, there have been proven studies that people who don't have a goal in life die 20-30 years earlier.

The pension system makes you goal-less, domesticated slave that watches TV all day. It is a pretty evil thing to do with old people.

If they would start working and not going to pension, they would live 20-30 years more and would be much healtier.

I would not have to pay for forced pension scam, and the old people would be happy and healthy. WIN-WIN

What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?

[RealBitcoin]

Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?

NO, I'm saying that I dont want people to be pension slaves, and to pay into this pension ponzi scheme.

Its an evil thing to do with the old people.

What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?

If the pension system is eliminated, along with all other tax burden and regulations, we will have more money to invest into green technology.

Not to mention the elimination of welfare stops population growth, and there would be less polluters.

[RealBitcoin]

Lemme explain it simply:

More capitalism, less socialism.

Only free market capitalism can save the Earth! Socialism destroys the human spirit and makes us all domesticated welfare slaves.

[BADecker]

Why are you trying to tell me that you are an old person?

NO, I'm saying that I dont want people to be pension slaves, and to pay into this pension ponzi scheme.

Its an evil thing to do with the old people.

What does this have to do with saving the earth or not?

If the pension system is eliminated, along with all other tax burden and regulations, we will have more money to invest into green technology.

Not to mention the elimination of welfare stops population growth, and there would be less polluters.

If all of our pollution stopped this instant, we might only save ourselves. It wouldn't save or destroy the planet.

[BADecker]

Towards saving ourselves...


Solar cell sucks up CO2 and spits burnable fuel out the other side

Researchers have now edged closer toward this dream technology, developing what they describe as a game-changing solar cell that produces hydrocarbon fuels in the lab, with potential applications ranging from large-scale uses on Earth to providing power on Mars.

The prospect of using sunlight to power our energy-intensive lifestyles has enough merit on its own, but what if we could suck carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere while we're at it? This two-pronged environmental panacea has inspired scientists eyeing a greener future, with artificial leaves, hybrid energy systems and moth-inspired photoelectrochemical cells just a few examples of how we are progressing toward this goal.

Scientists at Chicago's University of Illinois have been working with new kinds of chemicals with new kinds of properties to take these efforts to the next level. The key, they say, is to discover a new type of catalyst that can turn atmospheric CO2 into burnable fuels in an efficient and inexpensive way.

Read more at http://www.gizmag.com/solar-cell-co2-burnable-fuel/44645/.

[popcorn1]

Towards saving ourselves...


Solar cell sucks up CO2 and spits burnable fuel out the other side

Researchers have now edged closer toward this dream technology, developing what they describe as a game-changing solar cell that produces hydrocarbon fuels in the lab, with potential applications ranging from large-scale uses on Earth to providing power on Mars.

The prospect of using sunlight to power our energy-intensive lifestyles has enough merit on its own, but what if we could suck carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere while we're at it? This two-pronged environmental panacea has inspired scientists eyeing a greener future, with artificial leaves, hybrid energy systems and moth-inspired photoelectrochemical cells just a few examples of how we are progressing toward this goal.

Scientists at Chicago's University of Illinois have been working with new kinds of chemicals with new kinds of properties to take these efforts to the next level. The key, they say, is to discover a new type of catalyst that can turn atmospheric CO2 into burnable fuels in an efficient and inexpensive way.

Read more at http://www.gizmag.com/solar-cell-co2-burnable-fuel/44645/.

Solar panels on your roof then you could use the gas to heat your water and radiators..
Very impressed if they can produce enough gas..

Here is a video explaining it better.. The Artificial Leaf - Renewable Energy - Horizons - YouTube
Video for The Artificial Leaf - Renewable Energy - Horizons▶ 7:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J556uXwrjII..

Your best post ever BADECKER Thanks..

We the UK are building a nuke power station wont be up and running till 2030 and we will have to pay double our fuel bill costs when up and running..
Now imagine The Artificial Leaf - Renewable Energy comes out in 2027 what a waste 18 billion pounds will be ..

Yes i know they are taking co2 out of the air but the method is the same as water..

[Arcteryx]

I like hydro energy. They run buses with it now and creates H2O that all human need.
The new tesla car is electric right? So zero emissions, with everyday humans are creating more and more renewable resources so no need to worry about saving it. The planet will repair itself.

[popcorn1]

I like hydro energy. They run buses with it now and creates H2O that all human need.
The new tesla car is electric right? So zero emissions, with everyday humans are creating more and more renewable resources so no need to worry about saving it. The planet will repair itself.

What about the power stations that runs electric cars will they not be burning more fuel to produce electricity for the cars?..Still not really solved the problem..But your right we will solve the problem if the big oil companies allow it...

Nuke power BUT if something happens to the power plant we are all up shit creek..
Well we are in the UK with it being a small Island not much space to move some where else.. 

[Arcteryx]

I like hydro energy. They run buses with it now and creates H2O that all human need.
The new tesla car is electric right? So zero emissions, with everyday humans are creating more and more renewable resources so no need to worry about saving it. The planet will repair itself.

What about the power stations that runs electric cars will they not be burning more fuel to produce electricity for the cars?..Still not really solved the problem..But your right we will solve the problem if the big oil companies allow it...

Nuke power BUT if something happens to the power plant we are all up shit creek..
Well we are in the UK with it being a small Island not much space to move some where else.. 

Those fossil fuels used to produce those cars will add to the pollution but the earth will heal itself from that damage the thing is if the contributing factors keep running everyday that will build up on the overall damage to the earth and it will not have the capacity to keep up with this repairing of the ozone layer.
Yeah about nuke power. We don't want another Japan island happen again.

[just_Alice]

Many years talk about global warming, pollution. What do you think about it? Can it be reversed?

I don't believe in all that global warming stuff, but I think, that if it somehow happens government would be the last think which you'd want to rely on)

[Kvazimoda]

I like hydro energy. They run buses with it now and creates H2O that all human need.
The new tesla car is electric right? So zero emissions, with everyday humans are creating more and more renewable resources so no need to worry about saving it. The planet will repair itself.

What about the power stations that runs electric cars will they not be burning more fuel to produce electricity for the cars?..Still not really solved the problem..But your right we will solve the problem if the big oil companies allow it...

Nuke power BUT if something happens to the power plant we are all up shit creek..
Well we are in the UK with it being a small Island not much space to move some where else.. 

Those fossil fuels used to produce those cars will add to the pollution but the earth will heal itself from that damage the thing is if the contributing factors keep running everyday that will build up on the overall damage to the earth and it will not have the capacity to keep up with this repairing of the ozone layer.
Yeah about nuke power. We don't want another Japan island happen again.

Why do we blame someone, but do not blame yourself ?! Why do we blame for all the problems only by the government ?! Think if everyone starts to spend less energy, electricity, respectively, electricity will be less to produce. Accordingly, it will require less power to operate and some power plants can be shut down as a whole. There is no need to throw the blame on someone, start with ourselves, to protect nature. It depends on all of us and each of us.

[BADecker]

I like hydro energy. They run buses with it now and creates H2O that all human need.
The new tesla car is electric right? So zero emissions, with everyday humans are creating more and more renewable resources so no need to worry about saving it. The planet will repair itself.

What about the power stations that runs electric cars will they not be burning more fuel to produce electricity for the cars?..Still not really solved the problem..But your right we will solve the problem if the big oil companies allow it...

Nuke power BUT if something happens to the power plant we are all up shit creek..
Well we are in the UK with it being a small Island not much space to move some where else.. 

Those fossil fuels used to produce those cars will add to the pollution but the earth will heal itself from that damage the thing is if the contributing factors keep running everyday that will build up on the overall damage to the earth and it will not have the capacity to keep up with this repairing of the ozone layer.
Yeah about nuke power. We don't want another Japan island happen again.

Why do we blame someone, but do not blame yourself ?! Why do we blame for all the problems only by the government ?! Think if everyone starts to spend less energy, electricity, respectively, electricity will be less to produce. Accordingly, it will require less power to operate and some power plants can be shut down as a whole. There is no need to throw the blame on someone, start with ourselves, to protect nature. It depends on all of us and each of us.

Right! Anybody can put the government down by getting together with friends and starting a new government. So, it's all your fault, not government's.