VLT | Veltor | Donar Network | Minimalism.

[Stenull]

For the record, that photo is me getting second price at the Thomson Reuters HackETHon in London with our team.
We built a fully automated Ethereum sandbox that allowed you to write an invariant smart contract and a bounty contract for one of your deployed smart contracts.
If you can then write an exploit smart contract that breaks any of the invariants, you are automatically paid the bounty on the blockchain.
This could have been used to completely avoid the disaster that was the DAO ICO and code bug.
The people from the Ethereum foundation liked our project a lot.
It was a pretty awesome hackathon.

Wow that's some impressive accomplishment mr!!!

[Hunterwolfie]

what these imbeciles dont realise is that with the community here not sabotaging any and all future projects by these two they would raise magnitudes more.

50% or we will make your ICO and project a pariah on this board. It really is that simple.

You may as well sell these accounts here now because they are just going to be red flags for scams from now on.

Mr.Net. That username has been noted down now as bait and switch scammer.

If this community has any will power they will make it their goal to crush this project and find out all previous from these people and use that as leverage too.

Imagine the poor soles buying this bait and switch scam for 100k sats plus and it goes to 6k sats because they change the rules once they dumped their bags.

[o48o]

It can be debated what vlt tokens should be worth on the ico swap when people are coming in throwing real money and real value to the project. How high would you take it? Please if you think you have found a perfect ratio, don't be shy and tell us how you got there. Maybe you have a better idea and they will adopt it.

5 % is a slap in the face you fucking faggot shill.

You're obviously used to getting fucked over you brown nosing cunt.

Only retards like yourself would contribute to this scam ICO.

Go fuck yourself you faggot.

You sound like you need a hug.

[cryptohunter]

I only had a little bit of a look, but after seeing the number of projects (4 that I looked at, I'm sure there's many more) you said were "honest" and/or the "real thing" and you promoted/hyped etc that then ended up screwing everyone over and dead, I have to say that you being part of any project is a massive detriment and just serves to even strengthen the case that it will end up being some sort of pump and dump/scam.

But whatever, people around here will bend over for you if you tell them what they want to hear. As I said before, good luck to anyone foolish enough to roll the dice on this project.

PS. I can't wait to see who peer reviews this. I have a list of a few I suspect will be used. This will be fun to watch.

I was very naive back then and really didn't understand what I was doing.
I have learned a lot since then. And yes, back then I did stuff I am not proud of. I think most of us have done things in the past they aren't proud of.
Only through failure you learn and saying because of failure the next project won't succeed is contradicting itself. Its a toxic mentality in my opinion and the only people who suffer with that are the ones who don't allow them self to fail and thus never really progress and learn in life.

You're very naive now if you think you can bait and switch with 5% only. That is verging on just foolish I'm afraid.
Some scams can get away with a dirty past if they are huge already before full pressure is applied.
Sadly this one is hardly off of the ground and will be swatted down and crushed before it takes deep root.

I mean 50% is even a total bait and switch but livable if the white paper is outstanding.
25% you would have the odd supporter
5%= paid shills only to support this move and a bunch of scammed investors looking for revenge.

Rethink it now before digging yourself into a corner from which you can not get out of.

I would suggest now this second coming up with a far better offer.

I would also suggest noting down the usernames here of all that are giving this 5% offer the time of day and not calling it out for the scam move it is

I would note them down in a list because they are obviously shills and puppet accounts. Then review their post history and see what you can find out.

[Hunterwolfie]

THAT'S THE OTHER SCAMMING TWAT

[KKbit]

THAT'S THE OTHER SCAMMING TWAT

Good they have a face. And as it sounds they have obligations torwards the foundation so now they can be sued given the evidence they dumped on ealier investors.

[o48o]

I only had a little bit of a look, but after seeing the number of projects (4 that I looked at, I'm sure there's many more) you said were "honest" and/or the "real thing" and you promoted/hyped etc that then ended up screwing everyone over and dead, I have to say that you being part of any project is a massive detriment and just serves to even strengthen the case that it will end up being some sort of pump and dump/scam.

But whatever, people around here will bend over for you if you tell them what they want to hear. As I said before, good luck to anyone foolish enough to roll the dice on this project.

PS. I can't wait to see who peer reviews this. I have a list of a few I suspect will be used. This will be fun to watch.

I was very naive back then and really didn't understand what I was doing.
I have learned a lot since then. And yes, back then I did stuff I am not proud of. I think most of us have done things in the past they aren't proud of.
Only through failure you learn and saying because of failure the next project won't succeed is contradicting itself. Its a toxic mentality in my opinion and the only people who suffer with that are the ones who don't allow them self to fail and thus never really progress and learn in life.

You're very naive now if you think you can bait and switch with 5% only. That is verging on just foolish I'm afraid.
Some scams can get away with a dirty past if they are huge already before full pressure is applied.
Sadly this one is hardly off of the ground and will be swatted down and crushed before it takes deep root.

I mean 50% is even a total bait and switch but livable if the white paper is outstanding.
25% you would have the odd supporter
5%= paid shills only to support this move and a bunch of scammed investors looking for revenge.

Rethink it now before digging yourself into a corner from which you can not get out of.

I would suggest now this second coming up with a far better offer.

On what kind of marketcaps have you thowing these numbers? Sounds like your goal would be having instant 100x for an ico invest. IMHO people would not give a shit about the 5% if the price was not currently dumped.

[KKbit]

I only had a little bit of a look, but after seeing the number of projects (4 that I looked at, I'm sure there's many more) you said were "honest" and/or the "real thing" and you promoted/hyped etc that then ended up screwing everyone over and dead, I have to say that you being part of any project is a massive detriment and just serves to even strengthen the case that it will end up being some sort of pump and dump/scam.

But whatever, people around here will bend over for you if you tell them what they want to hear. As I said before, good luck to anyone foolish enough to roll the dice on this project.

PS. I can't wait to see who peer reviews this. I have a list of a few I suspect will be used. This will be fun to watch.

I was very naive back then and really didn't understand what I was doing.
I have learned a lot since then. And yes, back then I did stuff I am not proud of. I think most of us have done things in the past they aren't proud of.
Only through failure you learn and saying because of failure the next project won't succeed is contradicting itself. Its a toxic mentality in my opinion and the only people who suffer with that are the ones who don't allow them self to fail and thus never really progress and learn in life.

You're very naive now if you think you can bait and switch with 5% only. That is verging on just foolish I'm afraid.
Some scams can get away with a dirty past if they are huge already before full pressure is applied.
Sadly this one is hardly off of the ground and will be swatted down and crushed before it takes deep root.

I mean 50% is even a total bait and switch but livable if the white paper is outstanding.
25% you would have the odd supporter
5%= paid shills only to support this move and a bunch of scammed investors looking for revenge.

Rethink it now before digging yourself into a corner from which you can not get out of.

I would suggest now this second coming up with a far better offer.

On what kind of marketcaps have you thowing these numbers? Sounds like your goal would be having instant 100x for an ico invest. IMHO people would not give a shit about the 5% if the price was not currently dumped.

And was dumped because of whom? Have you seen the damn prints where they were selling OTC on May 3? How their buddies knew this and were dumping as many as 25k VLT at a time?

[Stenull]

THAT'S THE OTHER SCAMMING TWAT

Good they have a face. And as it sounds they have obligations torwards the foundation so now they can be sued given the evidence they dumped on ealier investors.

Dev's just posted their wallets to prove they didn't dump anything.

[Spacemarko]

Hahahaha

What a story So when I mention that whole story about Veltor is scam you people almost crucified me ahahahahahaha

[cryptohunter]

Give them 24hours to come up with a better offer. Else we start a full on scam alert campaign on the main board. VLT will be a pariah once we get started on it. ICO dreams of millions will be limited to how many fake BTC they can send themselves to make it appear there are people crazy enough to trust these types with their crypto wealth.

Starting now. I hope you guys are not going to give up and just let these guys fuck you over this hard.

You need will power and determination to hound these types and don't let up. Troll them into the ground until they are forced to hide under the rocks from whence they came. They will be done in crypto after this.

[Hunterwolfie]

Dev's just posted their wallets to prove they didn't dump anything.

Hey you fucking shill.

did you miss the part where he says that "these are the team addresses THAT I'AM AWARE OF"

you silly fucking muppet.

some of you are desperate to salvage whatever you can.

not all of us are blind fucking fools.....

[Mr. Net]

THAT'S THE OTHER SCAMMING TWAT

Yes, that is me in our company office in Luxembourg. I have been working on that company for over 3 years now and learned a lot in terms of engineering, manufacturing and management. I definitely got the right tools and knowledge to guide the Veltor Foundation through any hardware projects and management in general.

[Hunterwolfie]

THAT'S THE OTHER SCAMMING TWAT

Yes, that is me in our company office in Luxembourg. I have been working on that company for over 3 years now and learned a lot in terms of engineering, manufacturing and management. I definitely got the right tools and knowledge to guide the Veltor Foundation through any hardware projects and management in general.

you might have the "right tools and knowledge" but what you haven't got is the TRUSTof would be investors nor can you profess to have any

CREDIBILITY after this fiasco.

Your REPUTATION is gone.

The only people who will tell you otherwise are your shills or some idiots who liked to get fucked without any lube by egomaniacs like you and "Max"

 

[legday]

we should start raise awareness campaign. We owe it to cryptocommunity. Opening a thread here is not enough. we also need to get articles published on some of the websites like https://satoshiwatch.com/
So if  anyone googles these scumbags will know who they are and what they've done

[cryptohunter]

I only had a little bit of a look, but after seeing the number of projects (4 that I looked at, I'm sure there's many more) you said were "honest" and/or the "real thing" and you promoted/hyped etc that then ended up screwing everyone over and dead, I have to say that you being part of any project is a massive detriment and just serves to even strengthen the case that it will end up being some sort of pump and dump/scam.

But whatever, people around here will bend over for you if you tell them what they want to hear. As I said before, good luck to anyone foolish enough to roll the dice on this project.

PS. I can't wait to see who peer reviews this. I have a list of a few I suspect will be used. This will be fun to watch.

I was very naive back then and really didn't understand what I was doing.
I have learned a lot since then. And yes, back then I did stuff I am not proud of. I think most of us have done things in the past they aren't proud of.
Only through failure you learn and saying because of failure the next project won't succeed is contradicting itself. Its a toxic mentality in my opinion and the only people who suffer with that are the ones who don't allow them self to fail and thus never really progress and learn in life.

You're very naive now if you think you can bait and switch with 5% only. That is verging on just foolish I'm afraid.
Some scams can get away with a dirty past if they are huge already before full pressure is applied.
Sadly this one is hardly off of the ground and will be swatted down and crushed before it takes deep root.

I mean 50% is even a total bait and switch but livable if the white paper is outstanding.
25% you would have the odd supporter
5%= paid shills only to support this move and a bunch of scammed investors looking for revenge.

Rethink it now before digging yourself into a corner from which you can not get out of.

I would suggest now this second coming up with a far better offer.

On what kind of marketcaps have you thowing these numbers? Sounds like your goal would be having instant 100x for an ico invest. IMHO people would not give a shit about the 5% if the price was not currently dumped.

LOl yeah nobody would care about having their total stake in a coins minting reduced to 5% of what they thought it was initially. Why would they care?  why would that possibly crash the fucking market to perhaps 5% of its previous cap? you are saying that if they thought their investment retained the same usd value they should shut up and take it. But the upside just went down 20x? this is not an investment made in a vacuum there are other project the same investors compared and factored in the rules as they were not now the cap now has to achieve 20x higher than they dreamed it would to afford the same returns. Your investors are your supporters. These fools have no foresight. Those that are very very confident try to undersell their ico so they can retain the max tokens themselves because they know they make magnitudes more in the end.

People are investing at 100k sats because they probably believed eventually with the big dreams and talk here it would end up a 20M + cap coin and their stake in that was exactly as they were told it was at the outset not 5% of that.

The transition from bitcoindark to komodo was fairer and this should be the model here.

These people have no clue how crypto work. These are rank amateurs who are creating a total clusterfuck from a project that had a few people quite interested.





This is bait and switch pure and simple. You simply do not pull shit like this without the community consent.

So anyway let's review this in 24 hours if they still intend to insult their supporters with 5% then let's start to crush VLT and their future projects for good on here.

[legday]

The least that can be said about me is that I do not understand the community and that I completely underestimated the intensity of the reaction. So, for my part, I believe I should get back to doing what I know: delivering value for the project.

I want to leave you with one final thought.

Imagine we deliver a working prototype with a test network that has a lightning network that is technically clearly superior to the Bitcoin LN.
Imagine we present a road map that shows that we know exactly where we are going and how to get there.
Imagine we publish a white paper that illustrates that we know what we are doing and that the approach is groundbreaking.
Imagine we sign partnerships with some of the world leading blockchain researchers.

and no religion too...

People already lost a lot of money because of your actions. You can't right this wrong. Now go back to your cave and let us spread the word around

[BorisTheBulletDodger]

so they did sell.....

that's 2 BTC that went down the drain for me personally.

thank god I did not go balls deep as I was intending to....

[cryptohunter]

The least that can be said about me is that I do not understand the community and that I completely underestimated the intensity of the reaction. So, for my part, I believe I should get back to doing what I know: delivering value for the project.

I want to leave you with one final thought.

Imagine we deliver a working prototype with a test network that has a lightning network that is technically clearly superior to the Bitcoin LN.
Imagine we present a road map that shows that we know exactly where we are going and how to get there.
Imagine we publish a white paper that illustrates that we know what we are doing and that the approach is groundbreaking.
Imagine we sign partnerships with some of the world leading blockchain researchers.

How would that affect your perception of the situation? Of our decision?

This is our vision for the project.

I hope we will regain at least some of the trust that some of the investors have lost due to a lack of communication on our side.

Thank you everyone for all the time you put in to share your frustrations, and a special thank you for all the kind and supportive private messages.

It would induce me to crush your ICO if a fair package was not offered to those supporters who supported you from the outset.

Make a more reasonable offer because you are going to waste a golden opportunity if you really have the potential to produce what you claim. A poor reputation can do so much damage to a project it is quite unthinkable that you would not at least make a more sensible offer to prevent this.

[cryptohunter]

The least that can be said about me is that I do not understand the community and that I completely underestimated the intensity of the reaction. So, for my part, I believe I should get back to doing what I know: delivering value for the project.

I want to leave you with one final thought.

Imagine we deliver a working prototype with a test network that has a lightning network that is technically clearly superior to the Bitcoin LN.
Imagine we present a road map that shows that we know exactly where we are going and how to get there.
Imagine we publish a white paper that illustrates that we know what we are doing and that the approach is groundbreaking.
Imagine we sign partnerships with some of the world leading blockchain researchers.

and no religion too...

People already lost a lot of money because of your actions. You can't right this wrong. Now go back to your cave and let us spread the word around

Well they can make it right. Announce a road map/white paper with a 50% or more reasonable share for original holders price will recover and ICO can actually be highly successful if they have what they claim.

However no project no matter how amazing is above serious damage and limitation due to proven unfair treatment of previous investors and supporters.