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I just figure out how to get more out of my system!!!  Overview: -total system hashing = 169.6mh -each gpu hashing = 28.3mh -ave card wattage = 67W -total system Watts = 831W (At the Wall) -total system Amps = 6.91A (At the Wall) Efficiency per Card = W/Mhs = 67/28.3 =2.37 (Less is better) Efficiency per system = W/Mhs = 831/169.6 = 4.90 (Less is better)  what setttings are you running? |
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I just figure out how to get more out of my system!!! Overview: -total system hashing = 169.6mh -each gpu hashing = 28.3mh -ave card wattage = 67W -total system Watts = 831W (At the Wall) -total system Amps = 6.91A (At the Wall) Efficiency per Card = W/Mhs = 67/28.3 =2.37 (Less is better) Efficiency per system = W/Mhs = 831/169.6 = 4.90 (Less is better) You're setup is a killer ! Me I get around 29 MH/s perd card for an average wattage of 110W. Comparing it to yours, it means I can get a lot farther. |
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I just figure out how to get more out of my system!!! Overview: -total system hashing = 169.6mh -each gpu hashing = 28.3mh -ave card wattage = 67W -total system Watts = 831W (At the Wall) -total system Amps = 6.91A (At the Wall) Efficiency per Card = W/Mhs = 67/28.3 =2.37 (Less is better) Efficiency per system = W/Mhs = 831/169.6 = 4.90 (Less is better) Those are truly solid numbers. Best I have ever seen. |
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How are you measuring the wattage of each card: GPUz or a watt-man? GPUz only measures and reports the power of the GPU of a card. That figure does not include the memory, VRMs, and other board components found on each card.
Don't get me wrong, that is an absolutely awesome rig, and a great efficiency number, but we need to make sure we're comparing apples to apples.
*EDIT* Yes, I reread your calculations. That is very remarkable. Are you applying a voltage offset to the GPU and/or memory, too?
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Yes, those are truly amazing results Aries! Although I have to admit, it's a bit frustrating for me using the exact same GPUs and only currently getting 20.7 vs your 28.3 at essentially the same wattage. I did about 2-3 hours of experimenting yesterday after finally funding a place to download WattTool. I do really like that app as it's easier to change parameters vs AMD WattMan. The first thing I tried was your recommended -15 setting. Unfortunately, this ended up crashing my system, but I figure it was probably because I tried implementing that reduction on top of my previous WattMan tweaks of lowering the GPU mV in states 6 & 7. Once all Wattman settings were reset after reboot, the -15 took fine and put me at about 600W vs the 625 i was at with the state 6 & 7 reductions in place. I took the further step of micro adjusting this setting in WattTool, depending on the specific card's power hungriness. So, instead of -15 across the board, I am now at something like -18, -13, -14, -17... resulting in about another 10W savings. I didn't attempt the 1500 strapping yet as I was a bit frustrated after 2-3 hours of downtime, but will take a crack at it after my HDD is finished plotting 2TB BurstCoin, which will probably be tomorrow. Plus, I did have a couple questions before moving to that so... 1- Does the order matter? Meaning, can I strap-mod my GPUs with the -15 power tweak already applied in WattTool? Or, do I need to set that back to zero before attempting? 2- Regarding the strapping method you used... was it the one in this video by Lee at IMineBlocks? Just want to make sure since we have the exact same GPUs, I would like to use the same method since it worked great for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_zSP2H6ho3- Finally, what additional steps did you take to get your latest results? I think your last update showed you getting around 23 Mh/s, so this increase to 28+ is amazing. Seems like you are using a bit more power but getting a huge bump in HR seems well worth it! |
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October 16, 2016, 11:52:58 PM |
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I, personally, had to move the power from -15% back to 0% after modding my memory timings.
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I, personally, had to move the power from -15% back to 0% after modding my memory timings.
yeah to be able to get those numbers he must have really good gpu chips. low numbers allow for bigger undervolting. so if all six gpu chips are under 70% it would be easier then if they were all 90% if all were 90% overvolt with over clock is better which does not help with mining. if my 450 mh was as good as his I would be at 2230 watts I am around 2800 watts |
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Yes, those are truly amazing results Aries! Although I have to admit, it's a bit frustrating for me using the exact same GPUs and only currently getting 20.7 vs your 28.3 at essentially the same wattage. I did about 2-3 hours of experimenting yesterday after finally funding a place to download WattTool. I do really like that app as it's easier to change parameters vs AMD WattMan. The first thing I tried was your recommended -15 setting. Unfortunately, this ended up crashing my system, but I figure it was probably because I tried implementing that reduction on top of my previous WattMan tweaks of lowering the GPU mV in states 6 & 7. Once all Wattman settings were reset after reboot, the -15 took fine and put me at about 600W vs the 625 i was at with the state 6 & 7 reductions in place. I took the further step of micro adjusting this setting in WattTool, depending on the specific card's power hungriness. So, instead of -15 across the board, I am now at something like -18, -13, -14, -17... resulting in about another 10W savings. I didn't attempt the 1500 strapping yet as I was a bit frustrated after 2-3 hours of downtime, but will take a crack at it after my HDD is finished plotting 2TB BurstCoin, which will probably be tomorrow. Plus, I did have a couple questions before moving to that so... 1- Does the order matter? Meaning, can I strap-mod my GPUs with the -15 power tweak already applied in WattTool? Or, do I need to set that back to zero before attempting? 2- Regarding the strapping method you used... was it the one in this video by Lee at IMineBlocks? Just want to make sure since we have the exact same GPUs, I would like to use the same method since it worked great for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_zSP2H6ho3- Finally, what additional steps did you take to get your latest results? I think your last update showed you getting around 23 Mh/s, so this increase to 28+ is amazing. Seems like you are using a bit more power but getting a huge bump in HR seems well worth it!  Wow, Many Questions. I have MSI RX 470 Gaming X GPUs on this RIG. Here are the Stats on each gpu: RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu01 80.5% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu02 79.8% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu03 73.1% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu04 65.0% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu05 64.9% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu06 73.7% Hynix Here is what I did. 1) Strapped: Took the 1500 and copied to the three settings larger than 1500. Watch this video that shows you how to strap. I did the same method: https://youtu.be/OP_zSP2H6ho This will get you 23.5mhs per gpu 2) On the MSI Afterburner I set the Memory Clock to 2000 and the Core Clock to 1150 and press the check(Apply). This should get you the 28mhs. 3) Now I go to WattTool and look at the numbers for each gpu individually. In this case for gpu "0:Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics" look at the mV number in "R7" = 1150mV. I do not want this number less than 1000mV. This is just my preference. Look at the Voltage Offset. Whatever number you put in here it will be multiplied x 6.25 so, 20 x 6.25 = 125. 1150 - 125 = 1025mV(which is above 1000) so this one would be -20 and then click "Set" This gpu should now produce much lower watts. 4) Go to the next gpu and evaluate the number and make the changes in the Voltage Offset based upon the mV number in "R7." Each gpu will be different. Good Luck Let me know if you have more questions. |
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October 17, 2016, 03:05:54 AM |
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Good Luck
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Is any detailed description on similar to RX 480 Nitro+ cards? Thank you! |
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October 17, 2016, 01:27:47 PM |
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Yes, those are truly amazing results Aries! Although I have to admit, it's a bit frustrating for me using the exact same GPUs and only currently getting 20.7 vs your 28.3 at essentially the same wattage. I did about 2-3 hours of experimenting yesterday after finally funding a place to download WattTool. I do really like that app as it's easier to change parameters vs AMD WattMan. The first thing I tried was your recommended -15 setting. Unfortunately, this ended up crashing my system, but I figure it was probably because I tried implementing that reduction on top of my previous WattMan tweaks of lowering the GPU mV in states 6 & 7. Once all Wattman settings were reset after reboot, the -15 took fine and put me at about 600W vs the 625 i was at with the state 6 & 7 reductions in place. I took the further step of micro adjusting this setting in WattTool, depending on the specific card's power hungriness. So, instead of -15 across the board, I am now at something like -18, -13, -14, -17... resulting in about another 10W savings. I didn't attempt the 1500 strapping yet as I was a bit frustrated after 2-3 hours of downtime, but will take a crack at it after my HDD is finished plotting 2TB BurstCoin, which will probably be tomorrow. Plus, I did have a couple questions before moving to that so... 1- Does the order matter? Meaning, can I strap-mod my GPUs with the -15 power tweak already applied in WattTool? Or, do I need to set that back to zero before attempting? 2- Regarding the strapping method you used... was it the one in this video by Lee at IMineBlocks? Just want to make sure since we have the exact same GPUs, I would like to use the same method since it worked great for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_zSP2H6ho3- Finally, what additional steps did you take to get your latest results? I think your last update showed you getting around 23 Mh/s, so this increase to 28+ is amazing. Seems like you are using a bit more power but getting a huge bump in HR seems well worth it! Wow, Many Questions. I have MSI RX 470 Gaming X GPUs on this RIG. Here are the Stats on each gpu: RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu01 80.5% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu02 79.8% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu03 73.1% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu04 65.0% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu05 64.9% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu06 73.7% Hynix Here is what I did. 1) Strapped: Took the 1500 and copied to the three settings larger than 1500. Watch this video that shows you how to strap. I did the same method: https://youtu.be/OP_zSP2H6ho This will get you 23.5mhs per gpu 2) On the MSI Afterburner I set the Memory Clock to 2000 and the Core Clock to 1150 and press the check(Apply). This should get you the 28mhs. 3) Now I go to WattTool and look at the numbers for each gpu individually. In this case for gpu "0:Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics" look at the mV number in "R7" = 1150mV. I do not want this number less than 1000mV. This is just my preference. Look at the Voltage Offset. Whatever number you put in here it will be multiplied x 6.25 so, 20 x 6.25 = 125. 1150 - 125 = 1025mV(which is above 1000) so this one would be -20 and then click "Set" This gpu should now produce much lower watts. 4) Go to the next gpu and evaluate the number and make the changes in the Voltage Offset based upon the mV number in "R7." Each gpu will be different. Good Luck Let me know if you have more questions. How did you get watttool the amd driver to see the cards without an active video input like a dummy plug? |
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October 17, 2016, 01:39:04 PM |
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Good Luck
Let me know if you have more questions.
Is any detailed description on similar to RX 480 Nitro+ cards? Thank you! Here the guy I use for my Sapphire gpu's: Check out all of his videos. https://youtu.be/rqJIR4FirjMMAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE "HYNIX" OR "ELPIDA" MEMORY!!! You will brick your gpu if you mix these up. Here is a video explaining the difference: https://youtu.be/vt9G_rfRVqo |
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October 17, 2016, 01:39:54 PM |
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Okay I didn't see one in the picture so was wondering what was up |
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Yes, those are truly amazing results Aries! Although I have to admit, it's a bit frustrating for me using the exact same GPUs and only currently getting 20.7 vs your 28.3 at essentially the same wattage. I did about 2-3 hours of experimenting yesterday after finally funding a place to download WattTool. I do really like that app as it's easier to change parameters vs AMD WattMan. The first thing I tried was your recommended -15 setting. Unfortunately, this ended up crashing my system, but I figure it was probably because I tried implementing that reduction on top of my previous WattMan tweaks of lowering the GPU mV in states 6 & 7. Once all Wattman settings were reset after reboot, the -15 took fine and put me at about 600W vs the 625 i was at with the state 6 & 7 reductions in place. I took the further step of micro adjusting this setting in WattTool, depending on the specific card's power hungriness. So, instead of -15 across the board, I am now at something like -18, -13, -14, -17... resulting in about another 10W savings. I didn't attempt the 1500 strapping yet as I was a bit frustrated after 2-3 hours of downtime, but will take a crack at it after my HDD is finished plotting 2TB BurstCoin, which will probably be tomorrow. Plus, I did have a couple questions before moving to that so... 1- Does the order matter? Meaning, can I strap-mod my GPUs with the -15 power tweak already applied in WattTool? Or, do I need to set that back to zero before attempting? 2- Regarding the strapping method you used... was it the one in this video by Lee at IMineBlocks? Just want to make sure since we have the exact same GPUs, I would like to use the same method since it worked great for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_zSP2H6ho3- Finally, what additional steps did you take to get your latest results? I think your last update showed you getting around 23 Mh/s, so this increase to 28+ is amazing. Seems like you are using a bit more power but getting a huge bump in HR seems well worth it! Wow, Many Questions. I have MSI RX 470 Gaming X GPUs on this RIG. Here are the Stats on each gpu: RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu01 80.5% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu02 79.8% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu03 73.1% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu04 65.0% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu05 64.9% Hynix RIG001 MSI RX 470 gpu06 73.7% Hynix Here is what I did. 1) Strapped: Took the 1500 and copied to the three settings larger than 1500. Watch this video that shows you how to strap. I did the same method: https://youtu.be/OP_zSP2H6ho This will get you 23.5mhs per gpu 2) On the MSI Afterburner I set the Memory Clock to 2000 and the Core Clock to 1150 and press the check(Apply). This should get you the 28mhs. 3) Now I go to WattTool and look at the numbers for each gpu individually. In this case for gpu "0:Radeon (TM) RX 470 Graphics" look at the mV number in "R7" = 1150mV. I do not want this number less than 1000mV. This is just my preference. Look at the Voltage Offset. Whatever number you put in here it will be multiplied x 6.25 so, 20 x 6.25 = 125. 1150 - 125 = 1025mV(which is above 1000) so this one would be -20 and then click "Set" This gpu should now produce much lower watts. 4) Go to the next gpu and evaluate the number and make the changes in the Voltage Offset based upon the mV number in "R7." Each gpu will be different. Good Luck Let me know if you have more questions. How did you get watttool the amd driver to see the cards without an active video input like a dummy plug? These work great, i use them in all my rigs. http://www.ebay.com/itm/191847993749?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Here the guy I use for my Sapphire gpu's: Check out all of his videos. https://youtu.be/rqJIR4FirjMMAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE "HYNIX" OR "ELPIDA" MEMORY!!! You will brick your gpu if you mix these up. Here is a video explaining the difference: https://youtu.be/vt9G_rfRVqoWill try - thank you! |
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Anyone else has a Powercolor RX 470 ?
Mine is a piece of ****, crashing my rig all the time. I'm not even able to overclock it more the 22 MH.
I'm at job and i can't reboot my PC at the moment ... rig will be down for like 6 hours. Pissing me off
I'm going to ask for a replacement.
EDIT: RMA open, this is will go back home
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Anyone else has a Powercolor RX 470 ?
Mine is a piece of ****, crashing my rig all the time. I'm not even able to overclock it more the 22 MH.
I'm at job and i can't reboot my PC at the moment ... rig will be down for like 6 hours. Pissing me off
I'm going to ask for a replacement.
EDIT: RMA open, this is will go back home
I think the best card now are Sapphires and Asus, in terms of quality of components and field feedback. For quite sometime, I have avoided Powercolor and XFX ... |
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Anyone else has a Powercolor RX 470 ?
Mine is a piece of ****, crashing my rig all the time. I'm not even able to overclock it more the 22 MH.
I'm at job and i can't reboot my PC at the moment ... rig will be down for like 6 hours. Pissing me off
I'm going to ask for a replacement.
EDIT: RMA open, this is will go back home
I think the best card now are Sapphires and Asus, in terms of quality of components and field feedback. For quite sometime, I have avoided Powercolor and XFX ... thanks for this, i will keep that in mind for the future. So far my XFX is running fine |
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Anyone else has a Powercolor RX 470 ?
Mine is a piece of ****, crashing my rig all the time. I'm not even able to overclock it more the 22 MH.
I'm at job and i can't reboot my PC at the moment ... rig will be down for like 6 hours. Pissing me off
I'm going to ask for a replacement.
EDIT: RMA open, this is will go back home
I think the best card now are Sapphires and Asus, in terms of quality of components and field feedback. For quite sometime, I have avoided Powercolor and XFX ... thanks for this, i will keep that in mind for the future. So far my XFX is running fine According to the hardware engineer on these youtube videos. He breaks down the components of graphics cards: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ/videosHe ranks them as follows: 1 XFX(Black) 2 Asus 3 Sapphire 4 MSI 5 Gigabyte 6 Powercolor So Far, my preference is MSI RX 470 Gaming X GPU for Quietness, Low temps and ease of strapping and Bois Mods. |
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October 17, 2016, 04:38:10 PM |
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Okay I didn't see one in the picture so was wondering what was up When I took the picture, I was building the RIG. I now remote onto it with TeamViewer and now have the HDMI Emulator attached. [Imgur]( https://i.imgur.com/FcPvv9q.jpg) |
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