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December 26, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
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I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news".  Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

you saying we ought to dump this time so that we can buy cheap ICN on 28th?
doesn't sound right either to me. one sure route is to buy more.

I would say, go with your own feeling. If you are selling at peak prices to take fast profit, you won't help the project.. If you believe in the project, you should hold, even when the prices could/would go down.
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December 26, 2016, 04:56:28 PM
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I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news".  Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise.  These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

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December 26, 2016, 04:56:53 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
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December 26, 2016, 05:02:58 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
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December 26, 2016, 05:04:33 PM
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Where are you from LiskYork?
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December 26, 2016, 05:06:12 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

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December 26, 2016, 05:09:07 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad

Old code still not ok? Did you backup the secret key? If you didn't and you may need to resync the time clock, it is in settings.
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December 26, 2016, 05:12:01 PM
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Hi guys, I am traying to move my ICN from the ICO page to my ETH Wallet and the 2FA is not working at all, so I have installed  another app and also I have inserted  the cose that I get from Iconomi's ICO so Both apps match in the same 2FAcode  but to move my coins is not working at all.

Anyone here is experimwnting the same problem?

Thanks guys
I have contacted  Support  already I am waiting  very impatiently  for some information about my case, what comes to my mind is because  we are about to go live may be
Withdraws are not available, any ICN guy here to give me aome information about it? Thanks

there is code u must save if u lost your phone before scan qr code for 2FA
i think u can fix with that code
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December 26, 2016, 05:16:47 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
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December 26, 2016, 05:28:44 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device  you'll not able to recovery your account.

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December 26, 2016, 05:33:43 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device  you'll not able to recovery your account.


Thanks man honestly I really apreciate what you did, send me your ICN addresses  I will send you a little tip for your amazing  help.
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December 26, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
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Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?


Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

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"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...

If you have 1000 ICN, you would receive 0,37 USD / WEEK in dividends

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...
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December 26, 2016, 05:45:24 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device  you'll not able to recovery your account.


Thanks man honestly I really apreciate what you did, send me your ICN addresses  I will send you a little tip for your amazing  help.
Uhh thanks for your intention !! But is not necessary  Wink Anyway I really appreciate it !!!

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December 26, 2016, 05:46:53 PM
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Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?


Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

Quote
"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...

I don't think 1% is a realistic number. For index funds, 1% may be correct. On top of that is 1% enter and 1% exit fee. Iconomi.performance will generate all ICN holders big profits as the maintenance fees for the fund will be paid from ICO money. This means that ICN holders will get profits for years without anything substracted (at least until people can invest in Iconomi.performance again.)
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December 26, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device  you'll not able to recovery your account.

U D Man! U most be loaded! !!!!😀 thank you so much.👍 what are your expectations  for ICN in 2017?
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December 26, 2016, 05:51:05 PM
Last edit: December 26, 2016, 06:17:32 PM by Flyingbits
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Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?


Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

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"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...


If you have 1000 ICN, you would receive 0,37 USD / WEEK in dividends

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...

I don't think 1% is a realistic number. For index funds, 1% may be correct. On top of that is 1% enter and 1% exit fee. Iconomi.performance will generate all ICN holders big profits as the maintenance fees for the fund will be paid from ICO money. This means that ICN holders will get profits for years without anything substracted (at least until people can invest in Iconomi.performance again.)

Look at the following link, they are giving us a big clue for the ICONOMI.INDEX: management fee 3% and entry/exit fee 0.1%. Again, I give you REAL NUMBERS.

https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-index-fund-and-open-fund-management-platform-outline-will-be-released-on-28-december-ff9b428dccbe#.wnzwdhfps

In this case all the 3% management fees will go to ICONOMI. In the funds not managed by ICONOMI, the 3% fee will be shared between the manager and ICONOMI, and they have already stated that the manager will receive more than ICONOMI, that is why I choose 1% to ICONOMI, 2% to manager.

I am just trying to be realistic...



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December 26, 2016, 05:53:01 PM
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I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news".  Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise.  These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

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December 26, 2016, 06:05:34 PM
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I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned  before my old app i used to get acces to my account  with no problem, so I re installed  the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears  to be invalid Sad
Check your  phone  time&date to be synchronized.
  wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that
I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..  

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.
Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device  you'll not able to recovery your account.

U D Man! U most be loaded! !!!!😀 thank you so much.👍 what are your expectations  for ICN in 2017?
Sincerely, between 1-3 $ or maybe more..

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December 26, 2016, 06:09:17 PM
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I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news".  Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise.  These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

DRK, ETH, and XMR are still more than 10x higher than they were before their big pumps started. 

I think ICN is still at the starting point, similar to when ETH hadn't proven itself and was stuck as 2x ico price for months.

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December 26, 2016, 06:17:51 PM
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I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news".  Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise.  These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

I'm just speaking about the long term. If you really care about this project you would hodl until it's atleast 3 - 5 dollars. I am aware that corrections are normal, but I thought there were more people here that really like this project, and not just dump at every 5 cent pump for a meazly 400 dollar profit.  Undecided
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