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So you have mentioned 4 escrows, 1 of them is part of the project so cannot count as a 3rd party escrow.
Can you tell me more about how this escrow works?
Who can release the funds? IE is it one or two people. The only guy on there I trust is max.
How much at one time can be released?
What are the terms you will need to complete before 'escrow' releasing the funds?
Thanks in advance
Yes. There are 4 different individuals. Tim Mitja Zagar holds one key for Ethereum and Bitcoin. Escrow for Bitcoin and Ethereum works same way. Both are 2/3 multisg. That means that 2 people need to sign transaction in order to move funds. We (Tim Mitja) can not move Bitcoins or Ethereum without third party escrow partner. Lisk is different, as Max is the only having LSK under control. We will receive no BTC or ETH or LSK before we actually issue and distribute ICN tokens. We'll do that after ICO ends. If we don't release ICN tokens as promised, then escrow partners will return funds to all the participants in full. We can not influence that, their trust is at stake. With this system we wanted to make it as transparent and safe for investors as possible to invest. Awesome, thank you for your fast and precise answer. I am more inclined to invest LISK until I am able to check the back story of the other escrow you have listed. So can I ask how you will value LISK, is it at the time invested calculated to the price of bitcoin or is it at the end of the sale calculated to bitcoin? You have got my attention. Thank you for nice words! We will value all the currencies on the last day of ICO. It is the same way Augur did (they were accepting ETH and BTC) and we'll do the same. You're more than welcome, That is good to know. One more question, I couldn't find is this going to be a LISK clone?
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August 26, 2016, 06:46:09 AM |
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I love the right honey girl, whats her name? Interested to know as well. she's a beauty. its hard to find a girl who is also into cryptocurrency. would anyone in the team tell her, I'd marry her if she doesn't have someone yet. IS there a way to just invest to her instead and not the coin? kiddingHaha that got me laughing she is pretty indeed . According to their website https://ico.iconomi.net/ I'd say she is Tjasa Tolj Love her already. Let me just send 2000 btc for her. Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all.
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August 26, 2016, 07:37:20 AM |
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Maybe I missed it somehow, but how exactly are we going to receive the funds? I guess we don't have to be in control of the priv keys of whatever we send in, but I think you'll have a wallet to download and we create an address, which our funds will be deposited to, right? If yes, what will be the main platform? Is it going to be on Linux/windows/Mac OSX? Or online wallet?
(sorry if my ramblings don't make much sense. I need to go to bed…)
It will work on ETH platform so you will need an ETH wallet like Mist or any other to receive coins after ICO finish. You need to be registered and logged in when you send the founds from your BTC address. So till ICO finish that account is your key. I am a little confused. So you mean registered and logged in to the ETH wallet, right? I am not sure why it is involved the BTC address. Shouldn't be I get ICN after ICO then is deposited to the ETH wallet? If you purchase ICN with BTC then your BTC address is involved, pretty simple. Huh, that's interesting. If that's the case, sending from an exchange might be a bad idea. Is there a warning somewhere?
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August 26, 2016, 07:40:58 AM |
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I have to wait for this coin if it turns successful I will learn to trade, I really want to get involve in new coin goodluck with the dev project. I don't want to miss the second bounty bonus. I am waiting for twitter campaign when do you think it will be available?
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August 26, 2016, 08:04:44 AM |
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I have to wait for this coin if it turns successful I will learn to trade, I really want to get involve in new coin goodluck with the dev project. I don't want to miss the second bounty bonus. I am waiting for twitter campaign when do you think it will be available? i believe its already started but they just don't have a spread sheet to fill in you names yet. but it is mentioned in their website .check it out ..
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August 26, 2016, 08:05:04 AM |
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I'm not sure that my question from a few days ago was answered: If I send LISK for the ICO, how will the value of the LISK be determined? Will it be based on current value? Value after ICO? Or will it be a fixed value? The same question goes for Ether as well (basically all non shapeshift coins) and bitcoin towards usd/eur too.
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DanDan
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August 26, 2016, 08:09:26 AM |
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I'm not sure that my question from a few days ago was answered: If I send LISK for the ICO, how will the value of the LISK be determined? Will it be based on current value? Value after ICO? Or will it be a fixed value? The same question goes for Ether as well (basically all non shapeshift coins) and bitcoin towards usd/eur too.
I asked the same question and it was answered. You can find it just a few posts back. The value of LISK will be determined on the last day of the ICO. I have to assume ETH will be the same process.
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August 26, 2016, 08:10:46 AM |
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Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all. Yes, legit projects always get fund easily. Just see some other scams, they got fund very hard, without devs' identities exposures, escrow or reliable devs.
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August 26, 2016, 08:10:52 AM |
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I'm not sure that my question from a few days ago was answered: If I send LISK for the ICO, how will the value of the LISK be determined? Will it be based on current value? Value after ICO? Or will it be a fixed value? The same question goes for Ether as well (basically all non shapeshift coins) and bitcoin towards usd/eur too.
Everything will be converted to EUR based on market price on the last day and after that we will get final numbers (they won't be selling LSK, ETH, ... just probably use average selling price).
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August 26, 2016, 09:27:43 AM |
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So cool, big funding in day 1. 2000 BTC may be very possible, I will translate when the threshold is almost reached.
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August 26, 2016, 09:34:39 AM |
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So cool, big funding in day 1. 2000 BTC may be very possible, I will translate when the threshold is almost reached. Yes it's going much faster than any other coins ico. I can't believe mag be because of backend people who are working on it + escrows all are very trusted guy. Opair just made 130btc only in its Ico. Also will make a review article on my site to get some investors. Closely watching it.
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Gahs
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August 26, 2016, 09:36:47 AM |
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You answered all the questions, but dodged MoveCrypto's twice. I have a felling you dont quite understand your own plan. You even admit that in the part about transparency of trades made in the fund. But hey, if people want to invest their money in things they dont understand just because they have a good feeling, who am i to judge. Spend them dollars kids! This is the new decentralized economy, where we all put all our money in the hands of ONE 'Investment Lead' in the team for whom we have no evidence of his past trading performance in crypto. Thats Iconomi in a nutshell.
Well bitcoin started like this, even with less enthusiasm and little support. Look where it is today...
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August 26, 2016, 09:46:54 AM |
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Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all. Yes, legit projects always get fund easily. Just see some other scams, they got fund very hard, without devs' identities exposures, escrow or reliable devs. Noticed that as well. I've actually invested to the XAURUM project and I've seen that one of the XAURUM co-founder Gasper Kenda was one of the escrow. I should expect that XAURUM will be listed to ICONOMI platform when its fully develop. So cool, big funding in day 1. 2000 BTC may be very possible, I will translate when the threshold is almost reached. Yes it's going much faster than any other coins ico. I can't believe mag be because of backend people who are working on it + escrows all are very trusted guy. Opair just made 130btc only in its Ico. Also will make a review article on my site to get some investors. Closely watching it. There were lots of people on Opair ANN thread that just scream scam because of the dev team anonymity. Can't blame the scam busters.
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August 26, 2016, 09:50:11 AM |
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Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all. Yes, legit projects always get fund easily. Just see some other scams, they got fund very hard, without devs' identities exposures, escrow or reliable devs. Noticed that as well. I've actually invested to the XAURUM project and I've seen that one of the XAURUM co-founder Gasper Kenda was one of the escrow. I should expect that XAURUM will be listed to ICONOMI platform when its fully develop. So cool, big funding in day 1. 2000 BTC may be very possible, I will translate when the threshold is almost reached. Yes it's going much faster than any other coins ico. I can't believe mag be because of backend people who are working on it + escrows all are very trusted guy. Opair just made 130btc only in its Ico. Also will make a review article on my site to get some investors. Closely watching it. There were lots of people on Opair ANN thread that just scream scam because of the dev team anonymity. Can't blame the scam busters. Scam busters are beneficial to the community, there are more than half ICOs are scams, and most of them keep anonymity, if team wants the money, they should show the evidence of their competence.
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August 26, 2016, 09:51:54 AM |
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Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all. Yes, legit projects always get fund easily. Just see some other scams, they got fund very hard, without devs' identities exposures, escrow or reliable devs. this is correct. most investors are quite smart, they know where they should put their money into and not to those who are only meant to run with the investors money. as this project is good many investors will come
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August 26, 2016, 09:53:03 AM |
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now it is live and hope first week will be booming one , target may reach to 2000BTC , looks good project , need to wait and watch for the latest news for the first week and onwards .looks like more people are investing on this project.
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August 26, 2016, 10:04:37 AM |
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I'm not sure that my question from a few days ago was answered: If I send LISK for the ICO, how will the value of the LISK be determined? Will it be based on current value? Value after ICO? Or will it be a fixed value? The same question goes for Ether as well (basically all non shapeshift coins) and bitcoin towards usd/eur too.
I asked the same question and it was answered. You can find it just a few posts back. The value of LISK will be determined on the last day of the ICO. I have to assume ETH will be the same process. Thx for help with answer. I can confirm that. Value of all the currencies will be determined on the last day of ICO. Shapeshift currencies will be converted to BTC and therefore their value will be based on value of BTC. Same goes for EUR and USD as well. Sorry to all for not being responsive for the past 12h. We were awake wednesday to thursday night. And we had to take some sleep. However, I'll go now over all unanswered question and answer them in the next few hours.
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August 26, 2016, 10:20:50 AM |
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Scam busters are beneficial to the community, there are more than half ICOs are scams, and most of them keep anonymity, if team wants the money, they should show the evidence of their competence.
There are times competence does not matter in the success of an altcoin, what matters is the amount of funds backing up the coin. Look at the case of Monero and Ethereum... money talks
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ShooterXD
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August 26, 2016, 10:34:10 AM |
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Iconomi hás a nice team! But u sure, money buy anything! Buy dev if u need!
Iconomi become in top10 of biggest ICO!
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August 26, 2016, 10:38:03 AM |
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Wow 186,200.52 USD invested in a few hours. This will be big!!!
Yes, with initial capital or guarantee funds 2000 BTC certainly very reassuring for new investors to immediately join with this community. This project is very safe to us and I sure will be biggest in the world. Wow, over 300 btc worth money within 1 day, I am sure this project will reach their target easily. Look other teams/projects, can't get 300 btc in 1-2 months, this project is rather successful. But wait, seem like 2000 BTC Can be accumulated without me. With a legit project, the targeted amount ain't that impossible to reach. besides the rest of the users here in bitcoin talk are still searching for the next bitcoin phenomenon and it could be ICN. Good luck to us all. Yes, legit projects always get fund easily. Just see some other scams, they got fund very hard, without devs' identities exposures, escrow or reliable devs. Noticed that as well. I've actually invested to the XAURUM project and I've seen that one of the XAURUM co-founder Gasper Kenda was one of the escrow. I should expect that XAURUM will be listed to ICONOMI platform when its fully develop. So cool, big funding in day 1. 2000 BTC may be very possible, I will translate when the threshold is almost reached. Yes it's going much faster than any other coins ico. I can't believe mag be because of backend people who are working on it + escrows all are very trusted guy. Opair just made 130btc only in its Ico. Also will make a review article on my site to get some investors. Closely watching it. There were lots of people on Opair ANN thread that just scream scam because of the dev team anonymity. Can't blame the scam busters. Scam busters are beneficial to the community, there are more than half ICOs are scams, and most of them keep anonymity, if team wants the money, they should show the evidence of their competence. I do appreciate the effort and job well done of the likes of Scam busters, but not all anonymous developers are scammers, this was said of NXT project but what I heard was that He was trying to use the Satoshi anonymous marketing strategy that work well for Bitcoin, but what they don't understand now is that It won't work again, since we now have so many ICO scammers out for gullible and lazy investors because they can research the project they want to invest their Bitcoin into with due diligence
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