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Author Topic: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo - An Open, Composable Smart Chain Platform, Secured by B  (Read 1192055 times)
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September 09, 2017, 12:07:52 AM
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people who are able to understand the implications of a JUMBLR level privacy combined with barterDEX to obtain ICO coins...

maybe it is too complex for some people, but I am glad there are those that can see the future.

It is just so wrong for a govt or anybody to just declare that ICO are illegal. It is your money, if you want to spend it on ICO, then why are you prevented from doing so?

The reason I think is that money flows to the highest ROI and in spite of whatver  problems some ICOs have, overall has had and it will have one of the highest ROI of any investment type over the medium term. So "protecting" the people from losing money in ICO is really code for preventing anybody but the elite to participate.

It is already like this for IPO. only the already rich are able to participate and only the companies willing to pay the fees/bribes/etc to get listed are able to be listed. The rich get richer and only the big are able to make it bigger.

The crypto principle is to give power back to the people and give them the ability to make a lot of money or lose it all investing in whatever they want to. It is your hard earned money, anybody that restricts what you can do with it is effectively stealing value from you. Your right to mitigate damages should certainly include the ability to utilize JUMBLR and barterDEX

Well explained. I share your thoughts. Of course it is controversial, but I also think it's the future Wink
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September 09, 2017, 12:36:27 AM
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It was once called a Premine....now a ICO........what's next?.......It's just come to me ....Sidechain ICO......the future of crypto is looking closer to Wall st every day......So sad

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September 09, 2017, 12:38:17 AM
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people who are able to understand the implications of a JUMBLR level privacy combined with barterDEX to obtain ICO coins...

maybe it is too complex for some people, but I am glad there are those that can see the future.

It is just so wrong for a govt or anybody to just declare that ICO are illegal. It is your money, if you want to spend it on ICO, then why are you prevented from doing so?

The reason I think is that money flows to the highest ROI and in spite of whatver  problems some ICOs have, overall has had and it will have one of the highest ROI of any investment type over the medium term. So "protecting" the people from losing money in ICO is really code for preventing anybody but the elite to participate.

It is already like this for IPO. only the already rich are able to participate and only the companies willing to pay the fees/bribes/etc to get listed are able to be listed. The rich get richer and only the big are able to make it bigger.

The crypto principle is to give power back to the people and give them the ability to make a lot of money or lose it all investing in whatever they want to. It is your hard earned money, anybody that restricts what you can do with it is effectively stealing value from you. Your right to mitigate damages should certainly include the ability to utilize JUMBLR and barterDEX

I was turn down by my bank from investing in IPO just because i don't have a job or a fixed income (no job due to my health problems).
So i totally agreed, it not fair only the rich are allowed to invest in IPO, and normal people like myself are not allowed to invest for my future, it sad. Undecided

So i'm glad Komodo are doing this....this is a great news for everyone, who want to invest for their future...and no annoying government policy can stop me to invest for my future now  Cool

Thanks James/jl777B Smiley


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September 09, 2017, 01:08:03 AM
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I have to say sorry about my supposition of news wouldn't be so big but I was totally wrong Tongue

by the way in my country(asia), most of crypto manias aint be aware of value of anonymous coins yet.
It may be take some more time, may be 2018~, to be acquire real valuation from the crypto world in my country...
(It is really grateful for me because I can add more stock of KMD though Wink)
people who are able to understand the implications of a JUMBLR level privacy combined with barterDEX to obtain ICO coins...

maybe it is too complex for some people, but I am glad there are those that can see the future.

It is just so wrong for a govt or anybody to just declare that ICO are illegal. It is your money, if you want to spend it on ICO, then why are you prevented from doing so?

The reason I think is that money flows to the highest ROI and in spite of whatver  problems some ICOs have, overall has had and it will have one of the highest ROI of any investment type over the medium term. So "protecting" the people from losing money in ICO is really code for preventing anybody but the elite to participate.

It is already like this for IPO. only the already rich are able to participate and only the companies willing to pay the fees/bribes/etc to get listed are able to be listed. The rich get richer and only the big are able to make it bigger.

The crypto principle is to give power back to the people and give them the ability to make a lot of money or lose it all investing in whatever they want to. It is your hard earned money, anybody that restricts what you can do with it is effectively stealing value from you. Your right to mitigate damages should certainly include the ability to utilize JUMBLR and barterDEX

I know nought about algo, but these thing was helpful for me to seize a big picture of Komodo’s superiority at a glance.

1)   Based on Bitcoin’s mighty blockchain
For durability is first thing on earth.
2)   Early fork of ZCash
zk-SNARKs’s idea itself is maybe difficult but obviously it’s best meaningful anonymizing tec.
3)   Anon DEX and Gateway between crypto currency and fiat currency
That’s what we need. Yesterday’s news was what we wanted to hear. hitting the head of a f*cking nail.

And best things and originality is always consists of ever existing useful material.

Personally, presentation of yesterday was not so bad I think. It’s not a flutter.
Only was it little bit difficult because I’m really not good at listening English. I had to read tweets about $kmd to comprehend what’s going on.
Hope next time, using more pictures or illustrations is so helpful!

I think all we need is keeping being modest.
I don’t waste my time writing some shit blog or steemit about Komodo.
It’s really painful to see people explain hard how their HODLing crypto is greater and different than others you know? Is it only in my country?
Only time isn’t still mature. KMD is crypto’s main stream obviously.
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September 09, 2017, 01:48:59 AM
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Tell please how can I see (claim) REVS and JUMBLR in my wallet by using komodo-cli.exe?
Because of Komodo swing 8.0 wallet dont works and Agama want not to install correctly. Win 7-64
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September 09, 2017, 01:54:10 AM
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When will kmd have a better wallet?



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September 09, 2017, 02:33:43 AM
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When will kmd have a better wallet?
https://supernet.org/en/products/komodo-swing-wallet

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September 09, 2017, 04:36:41 AM
Last edit: September 09, 2017, 04:47:58 AM by shitcoinspector
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Is there a risk of the government saying it's illegal and trying to arrest the developers? That would suck, would be next level oppression.

edit: And also future decentralized ico's will they have to be done anonymously in the future to avoid persecution?
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September 09, 2017, 05:18:28 AM
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thanks to komodos recent announcement, the trolls are restless! is somebody feeling threatened? lol who cares but it sure it funny watching (metaphorically) them writhe when the real action starts happening with this coin. this (the announcement) is great news, I missed the vid however but I get the point. Some real action is happening, the kmd team presented the vid a bit haphazardly which provided a vector for every sleeping troll to wake up and begin creation of fake accounts to say stupid comments that make no sense. more spew of FUD what a joke. anybody with any common sense can see the value this platform provides and if ya can't see it yet you may be blind or simply serving the demons who would obliterate our freedom.
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September 09, 2017, 07:26:29 AM
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Komodo will be big! Wink
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September 09, 2017, 08:58:28 AM
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Great announcement yesterday! The price will go to the moon soon but I hope that it drops a bit to buy again.
When will be released more news about this first dICO?

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September 09, 2017, 09:11:55 AM
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the guys explaining ups and downs are so cute
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September 09, 2017, 09:12:58 AM
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September 09, 2017, 09:25:26 AM
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Once again!

What happen to my Nxt SuperNet UNITY asset??? And what will happen to the Jumblr? I got some Jumblr but dont know how to do with them.
there is no UNITY asset, UNITY was the ticker symbol at poloniex for the SuperNET asset.
SUPERNET asset will migrate to assetchains later this year
JUMBLR will start getting revshares as soon as we get enough to warrant a distribution cycle:

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RThtXup6Zo7LZAi8kRWgjAyi1s4u6U9Cpf for KMD dexfees

JUMBLR will get 15% of those fees and also 100% of RGhxXpXSSBTBm9EvNsXnTQczthMCxHX91t, which is already past 2BTC worth of revenues even before GUI enabled release

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No. Transactions 2341

if you dont want to wait for revshares, you can always sell it on barterdex

Thanks for the info. I meant the SuperNet on Nxt Asset. Let me keep mine and wait for the year end.

Another question is the SuperNet will be 1:1 basis as a SuperNet in Agama or it will be convert into KMD? What is the benifit of SuperNet?

Cheers
1:1 between SUPERNET assetchain and SuperNET asset. SuperNET will get revshares from its asset holdings, look at the bottom of: http://old.supernet.org/nav.php

Sorry James I just caught this. So we have to swap SuperNet asset for SUPERNET assetchain as SuperNet asset will cease to exist in time?
Since the NXT chain could well stop at some point, I felt this was a prudent course of action

Ah ok, so will the swap be done on nxt ae or will it be somewhere else?
the plan is to do something like an MGW withdraw, basically send the asset back to a special address with a message that contains the KMD address

but details still pending

And will there be any extra nice surpises once it is SUPERNET assetchain? Like the little chocolates you find on hotel pillows  Wink
Also will this include an opportunity for those without to swap, a chance to buy some SUPERNET assetchain?
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September 09, 2017, 09:28:42 AM
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It seems Komodo can go and trade at the levels of Ethereum in the future. Maybe 1 to 2 years and Komodo can also be a 25 Billion market.
I see good things coming if the team works as hard as Vitalik Buterin.

Are you sure of this prediction?
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September 09, 2017, 09:32:06 AM
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Once again!

What happen to my Nxt SuperNet UNITY asset??? And what will happen to the Jumblr? I got some Jumblr but dont know how to do with them.
there is no UNITY asset, UNITY was the ticker symbol at poloniex for the SuperNET asset.
SUPERNET asset will migrate to assetchains later this year
JUMBLR will start getting revshares as soon as we get enough to warrant a distribution cycle:

1KRhTPvoxyJmVALwHFXZdeeWFbcJSbkFPu BTC dexfees
RThtXup6Zo7LZAi8kRWgjAyi1s4u6U9Cpf for KMD dexfees

JUMBLR will get 15% of those fees and also 100% of RGhxXpXSSBTBm9EvNsXnTQczthMCxHX91t, which is already past 2BTC worth of revenues even before GUI enabled release

3272.65258105 KMD
No. Transactions 2341

if you dont want to wait for revshares, you can always sell it on barterdex

Thanks for the info. I meant the SuperNet on Nxt Asset. Let me keep mine and wait for the year end.

Another question is the SuperNet will be 1:1 basis as a SuperNet in Agama or it will be convert into KMD? What is the benifit of SuperNet?

Cheers
1:1 between SUPERNET assetchain and SuperNET asset. SuperNET will get revshares from its asset holdings, look at the bottom of: http://old.supernet.org/nav.php

Sorry James I just caught this. So we have to swap SuperNet asset for SUPERNET assetchain as SuperNet asset will cease to exist in time?
Since the NXT chain could well stop at some point, I felt this was a prudent course of action

Ah ok, so will the swap be done on nxt ae or will it be somewhere else?
the plan is to do something like an MGW withdraw, basically send the asset back to a special address with a message that contains the KMD address

but details still pending

And will there be any extra nice surpises once it is SUPERNET assetchain? Like the little chocolates you find on hotel pillows  Wink
Also will this include an opportunity for those without to swap, a chance to buy some SUPERNET assetchain?
good idea! we can make a CHOCOLATES assetchain Smiley

SUPERNET asset is already fully in people's hands, but I would imagine a lot of long time NXT SuperNET holders will be looking to sell as soon as they convert to SUPERNET

just need to offer enough
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September 09, 2017, 09:34:24 AM
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Is there a risk of the government saying it's illegal and trying to arrest the developers? That would suck, would be next level oppression.

edit: And also future decentralized ico's will they have to be done anonymously in the future to avoid persecution?

Isn't the country that illegalize ico China? It means other countries like russia or U.S. will still devop ico project without any worries as the law didn't applied to them. Besides, KMD had long since passing their ICO, so it's not even a concern here.

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September 09, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
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This is first time I bought some during recent decline and will be keeping those coins for few months. Komodo was very attraction for me but it took long time to make my way into this project. I am glad finally I have coins of one more highly potential project.
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September 09, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
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Is there a risk of the government saying it's illegal and trying to arrest the developers? That would suck, would be next level oppression.

edit: And also future decentralized ico's will they have to be done anonymously in the future to avoid persecution?

Isn't the country that illegalize ico China? It means other countries like russia or U.S. will still devop ico project without any worries as the law didn't applied to them. Besides, KMD had long since passing their ICO, so it's not even a concern here.
not just China: https://cointelegraph.com/news/protostarr-ico-shut-down-by-sec
also russia is making some noise about "nationalizing" crypto, ie. making anything but the staterun crypto illegal

Some have pointed out that ETH ICO are also decentralized, but the d in dICO means more than just decentralized. It is the difference between napster and torrents. napster was p2p but it had a single point of failure, which was attacked and shutdown.

Current ICO invariably have a single point of  failure. And if your blockchain transactions are transparent, then no matter how decentralized everything else is, what does it matter?

Without JUMBLR level privacy, there can be no dICO.
To my knowledge no other ICO platform offers JUMBLR level privacy.

Another issue is that by decentralizing the ICO inventory, whales wont be able to gobble up all the ICO coins at once.

Another issue about proxy token ICO is that they are nice and convenient, but it is all centralized in one blockchain and expensive gas fees to pay, forever. Having your own blockchain is the most efficient. No need to store all the transactions from unrelated projects, no terabyte blockchains needed.

To anybody that thinks dICO has been done before, they are confusing napster with torrents
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September 09, 2017, 10:03:49 AM
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Just call ICO dICO and it suddenly not the same thing as ICO thus legal again Wink

Also like said above you can't stop decentralized system even when outlawed... Indeed today millions of people DDL major movies such as Harry Potter and so on on a daily basis...

I am glad to put some money in KMD, the devs are hard working and the community is active: all good things to make a coin in the top 10 with good returns.  Smiley
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