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November 21, 2016, 06:42:59 AM
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I think that may collect about 300,000 ETH at all.

Same view, they have raised 160,000 ETH in early days, 300,000 ETH is highly possible.
I feeling glad if this ico will reach over 200,000 ETH.  Cheesy Grin

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November 21, 2016, 06:50:06 AM
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From the looks of it, vDice has in fact received approximately 137,700 ETH into what appears to be their address for receiving ETH for the ICO. Anyone should be able to verify this by looking up the balance of the ETH address 0x8bCCc9BA2E5706E24a36ddA02ca2A846E39a7bbF on any block explorer, I used etherscan, which shows roughly the above amount of ETH received and no ETH sent. This does not mean however that all/most of this ETH did not originate from the devs of this site. The fact that what appears to be an etherum developer is also a dev of this site likely will make it difficult to make any kind of blockchain connection proving that the devs are the ones "investing" in the ICO. I personally would not be surprised if most of what has been invested so far is from people connected to the devs, considering just how bad of a deal this ICO is for investors.

I think the amount raised is probably legitimate. Here's my thought process:

If the devs had this sort of money themselves, they would've put it into their own site bankroll. But maybe not. There's perhaps a logical reason that they might not want to do that, (AFAICT) the bankroll itself has no protection from a malicious orclize or random.org. And on top their counter party risk, there's always the looming threat of bugs (that exist in all sites, not just vdice). So it's quite understandable to not risk too much bankrolling it.

So if they had that sort of money, but didn't want to put it in their bankroll, the logical thing to do be inflate the profits to make it more attractive for investors. However, if you look at the "total amount won" over the sites history, that's 877 ETH. That should correspond to roughly ~17 ETH profit for the site (they have a 1.9% house edge). Less than a couple hundred bucks.

So if the invested amount is shill-money, it would mean they're a) bad actors and b) have a lot of money. So they logically should've massively bumped up the sites profit, to make it look a lot more profitable than it is.

So my conclusion is that they're probably legitimate investors. I'm guessing there are some unsavvy investors who didn't bother to fact check the site claims and put a little too much money on it, hoping it'd be the next big thing.
It is possible that they would increase their bankroll profits if they were using "shill" money, although I believe it would be fairly difficult to fake betting volume on an on-chain gambling platform.

It is also possible that the devs simply did not have the forethought to increase their site's profit to make their site more attractive to investors. My theory is that the devs were trying to get their "blockbuster" initial investment numbers to make the crypto-news, causing more people to invest without doing any due diligence.

I don't see any benefit in investing in the first hour, or even in the first day, however I understand that a very large percentage of the total amount invested was invested in the first hour after investments were opened. If this money was "real" then these investors would need to take time off work and be waiting for investments to open.


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November 21, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
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You could just ask. These conspiracy theories are getting really wacky.

When and why did you decide to go from this:

We are serious developers and we know what we are doing.
That is why we have built an launched the world's 1st Fully Decentralized gambling game and made it live.

While others write whitepapers, we deliver and launch production ready code.  Wink

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After the ICO we are moving from PoC stage to Beta Then our priority is:
Faster blockchain betting times. We already have them down to 5s on the test-net.
More betting options.
Site design. It's all coming after ICO

I assume you have decided to stop trying to convince everyone you were provably fair or decentralized...right?

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November 21, 2016, 08:15:52 AM
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I think some people have decided that anything not Bitcoin related is a fraud/scam. We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly


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November 21, 2016, 08:25:37 AM
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I think some people have decided that anything not Bitcoin related is a fraud/scam. We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly

By giving them a chance to fly we are giving them a chance to scam even more money.  If they continue to lie, they will not fly.



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November 21, 2016, 08:36:51 AM
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What is the difference between you and satoshidice? You also the on-chain betting, want to know more details, thanks
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I assume you have decided to stop trying to convince everyone you were provably fair or decentralized...right?

You can assume whatever you like.

You can't even read a block explorer properly.

Your assumptions and opinions are worthless.

Best of luck with everything though.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to distract you from the question.

When and why did you decide to go from this:

We are serious developers and we know what we are doing.
That is why we have built an launched the world's 1st Fully Decentralized gambling game and made it live.

While others write whitepapers, we deliver and launch production ready code.  Wink

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After the ICO we are moving from PoC stage to Beta Then our priority is:
Faster blockchain betting times. We already have them down to 5s on the test-net.
More betting options.
Site design. It's all coming after ICO

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November 21, 2016, 09:34:22 AM
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ETH will help the project, because many whale ETH investors, people will invest lots of money in vDICE. Let us see you change the dice world.
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November 21, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.

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November 21, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.



Me too, it is the dice future, btw, it is vdice, not vslice.   Cheesy
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November 21, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
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Since the crypto community is a bunch of gamblers I think this is a perfect combination to become sucessful  Smiley


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November 21, 2016, 01:56:13 PM
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I lost it. I'm very unlucky  Cry Cry Cry

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November 21, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
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i bought around 10k vslice tokens....

if the game begins by jan... how much profit can i expect as a dividend in return in ETH?
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November 21, 2016, 02:30:25 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.



Me too, it is the dice future, btw, it is vdice, not vslice.   Cheesy

No, he is correct, you didn't read the op, is it vslice.

"The object of this Crowdsale is the native token of the vDice game called; ‘vSlice’.

This token is tied directly the the profits of the vDice game. Holders of vSlice tokens receive a share of vDice profit, proportional to the amount of tokens held, in a fair and transparent way.

‘vSlice’ tokens behave as any standard ERC20 token."
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November 21, 2016, 02:33:07 PM
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700K ETH, ambitious, maybe more ETH whales will hunt your tokens, right now is tough, but adidas slogan:impossible is nothing 
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November 21, 2016, 04:46:35 PM
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Someone has just invested 24000 ETH  Shocked Shocked Shocked

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November 21, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
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Since the crypto community is a bunch of gamblers I think this is a perfect combination to become sucessful  Smiley


Gambling and crypto are very important for each we have successful example of bitcoin. This would be successful because of providing wonderful gambling service as dice is very favorite game.
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November 21, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
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Someone has just invested 24000 ETH  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Wow this is good news funds are growing fast soon they will reach their goal. Announcements would be more better place of this thread.
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November 21, 2016, 06:21:39 PM
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Someone has just invested 24000 ETH  Shocked Shocked Shocked

WOW, big ETH whale, I wonder how they can have so much money, ETH ico investors? Or big miners or traders?  Shocked
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November 21, 2016, 06:46:16 PM
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Someone has just invested 24000 ETH  Shocked Shocked Shocked

WOW, big ETH whale, I wonder how they can have so much money, ETH ico investors? Or big miners or traders?  Shocked

This is a very good news for vDice! It is very hard to say. Early adopters and early miners have big ETH collection at their disposals and vDice being a special, one of a kind project,can get heavy  investments from big whales. I wonder whether ICONOMI will get into vDice? It would be awesome if they do!

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