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November 21, 2016, 06:42:59 AM
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I think that may collect about 300,000 ETH at all.

Same view, they have raised 160,000 ETH in early days, 300,000 ETH is highly possible.
I feeling glad if this ico will reach over 200,000 ETH.  Cheesy Grin

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November 21, 2016, 06:50:06 AM
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From the looks of it, vDice has in fact received approximately 137,700 ETH into what appears to be their address for receiving ETH for the ICO. Anyone should be able to verify this by looking up the balance of the ETH address 0x8bCCc9BA2E5706E24a36ddA02ca2A846E39a7bbF on any block explorer, I used etherscan, which shows roughly the above amount of ETH received and no ETH sent. This does not mean however that all/most of this ETH did not originate from the devs of this site. The fact that what appears to be an etherum developer is also a dev of this site likely will make it difficult to make any kind of blockchain connection proving that the devs are the ones "investing" in the ICO. I personally would not be surprised if most of what has been invested so far is from people connected to the devs, considering just how bad of a deal this ICO is for investors.

I think the amount raised is probably legitimate. Here's my thought process:

If the devs had this sort of money themselves, they would've put it into their own site bankroll. But maybe not. There's perhaps a logical reason that they might not want to do that, (AFAICT) the bankroll itself has no protection from a malicious orclize or random.org. And on top their counter party risk, there's always the looming threat of bugs (that exist in all sites, not just vdice). So it's quite understandable to not risk too much bankrolling it.

So if they had that sort of money, but didn't want to put it in their bankroll, the logical thing to do be inflate the profits to make it more attractive for investors. However, if you look at the "total amount won" over the sites history, that's 877 ETH. That should correspond to roughly ~17 ETH profit for the site (they have a 1.9% house edge). Less than a couple hundred bucks.

So if the invested amount is shill-money, it would mean they're a) bad actors and b) have a lot of money. So they logically should've massively bumped up the sites profit, to make it look a lot more profitable than it is.

So my conclusion is that they're probably legitimate investors. I'm guessing there are some unsavvy investors who didn't bother to fact check the site claims and put a little too much money on it, hoping it'd be the next big thing.
It is possible that they would increase their bankroll profits if they were using "shill" money, although I believe it would be fairly difficult to fake betting volume on an on-chain gambling platform.

It is also possible that the devs simply did not have the forethought to increase their site's profit to make their site more attractive to investors. My theory is that the devs were trying to get their "blockbuster" initial investment numbers to make the crypto-news, causing more people to invest without doing any due diligence.

I don't see any benefit in investing in the first hour, or even in the first day, however I understand that a very large percentage of the total amount invested was invested in the first hour after investments were opened. If this money was "real" then these investors would need to take time off work and be waiting for investments to open.


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November 21, 2016, 07:10:35 AM
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From the looks of it, vDice has in fact received approximately 137,700 ETH into what appears to be their address for receiving ETH for the ICO. Anyone should be able to verify this by looking up the balance of the ETH address 0x8bCCc9BA2E5706E24a36ddA02ca2A846E39a7bbF on any block explorer, I used etherscan, which shows roughly the above amount of ETH received and no ETH sent. This does not mean however that all/most of this ETH did not originate from the devs of this site. The fact that what appears to be an etherum developer is also a dev of this site likely will make it difficult to make any kind of blockchain connection proving that the devs are the ones "investing" in the ICO. I personally would not be surprised if most of what has been invested so far is from people connected to the devs, considering just how bad of a deal this ICO is for investors.

I think the amount raised is probably legitimate. Here's my thought process:

If the devs had this sort of money themselves, they would've put it into their own site bankroll. But maybe not. There's perhaps a logical reason that they might not want to do that, (AFAICT) the bankroll itself has no protection from a malicious orclize or random.org. And on top their counter party risk, there's always the looming threat of bugs (that exist in all sites, not just vdice). So it's quite understandable to not risk too much bankrolling it.

So if they had that sort of money, but didn't want to put it in their bankroll, the logical thing to do be inflate the profits to make it more attractive for investors. However, if you look at the "total amount won" over the sites history, that's 877 ETH. That should correspond to roughly ~17 ETH profit for the site (they have a 1.9% house edge). Less than a couple hundred bucks.

So if the invested amount is shill-money, it would mean they're a) bad actors and b) have a lot of money. So they logically should've massively bumped up the sites profit, to make it look a lot more profitable than it is.

So my conclusion is that they're probably legitimate investors. I'm guessing there are some unsavvy investors who didn't bother to fact check the site claims and put a little too much money on it, hoping it'd be the next big thing.
It is possible that they would increase their bankroll profits if they were using "shill" money, although I believe it would be fairly difficult to fake betting volume on an on-chain gambling platform.

It is also possible that the devs simply did not have the forethought to increase their site's profit to make their site more attractive to investors. My theory is that the devs were trying to get their "blockbuster" initial investment numbers to make the crypto-news, causing more people to invest without doing any due diligence.

I don't see any benefit in investing in the first hour, or even in the first day, however I understand that a very large percentage of the total amount invested was invested in the first hour after investments were opened. If this money was "real" then these investors would need to take time off work and be waiting for investments to open.



You could just ask. These conspiracy theories are getting really wacky.

Reality is there is an appetite for Ethereum Dapps in many, many global markets.
And there are precious few working Dapps to support at the moment.

For example, we sponsored Devcon 2 in Shanghai this year.

While there we showed people our Dapp and they loved it. I mean, pulling out their check-book loved it.

A SaotshiDICE clone implemented as an Ethereum Smart Contract, through an Oracle, may not be to your taste.

But lots of people see the great potential, including us.

In the growing Ethereum ecosystem, globally, they really like what we are doing, how we are doing it, our team, and our roadmap.
And they are prepared to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

That is the plain reality of the market.


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November 21, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
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You could just ask. These conspiracy theories are getting really wacky.

When and why did you decide to go from this:

We are serious developers and we know what we are doing.
That is why we have built an launched the world's 1st Fully Decentralized gambling game and made it live.

While others write whitepapers, we deliver and launch production ready code.  Wink

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After the ICO we are moving from PoC stage to Beta Then our priority is:
Faster blockchain betting times. We already have them down to 5s on the test-net.
More betting options.
Site design. It's all coming after ICO

I assume you have decided to stop trying to convince everyone you were provably fair or decentralized...right?

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November 21, 2016, 08:15:52 AM
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I think some people have decided that anything not Bitcoin related is a fraud/scam. We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly

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November 21, 2016, 08:25:37 AM
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I think some people have decided that anything not Bitcoin related is a fraud/scam. We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly

By giving them a chance to fly we are giving them a chance to scam even more money.  If they continue to lie, they will not fly.



Did they ask you to post here?

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November 21, 2016, 08:36:51 AM
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What is the difference between you and satoshidice? You also the on-chain betting, want to know more details, thanks
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I assume you have decided to stop trying to convince everyone you were provably fair or decentralized...right?

You can assume whatever you like.

You can't even read a block explorer properly.

Your assumptions and opinions are worthless.

Best of luck with everything though.
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...We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly

Thanks for the support.

Actually everyone loves us.
Just a couple of trolls in here annoying everyone.

We've received lots of complaints about them. But we can't do anything.

Just hit the ignore button.
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November 21, 2016, 08:43:39 AM
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What is the difference between you and satoshidice? You also the on-chain betting, want to know more details, thanks

Hi,

Thanks for your question.

Main difference is we are implemented as a Smart Contract on Ethereum.

So all the code and logic "lives" on the ethereum p2p network.

The only server vDice has is for the website itself.
Which is really just has our branding and design.

Also, we do randomness through an Oracle.

They're the key differences.
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November 21, 2016, 08:48:29 AM
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I think some people have decided that anything not Bitcoin related is a fraud/scam. We need to always see things with open mind. More than $1.6 million invested so far and some people are still saying this investment was staged. Please give this a chance to fly

I must emphasis that it's really not up to 1 troll in this forum if we "fly".

Our backers in Russian, China and Japan understand ethereum, oracle technology, etc, etc.
They have a strong knowledge of what our platform does and its potential.

They are the ones who have decided that we will indeed "fly"

So, don't worry, you'll see our project do some great stuff, going forward.

Don't let the trolls bother you. Especially when they can't read block-explorer.  Sad
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I assume you have decided to stop trying to convince everyone you were provably fair or decentralized...right?

You can assume whatever you like.

You can't even read a block explorer properly.

Your assumptions and opinions are worthless.

Best of luck with everything though.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to distract you from the question.

When and why did you decide to go from this:

We are serious developers and we know what we are doing.
That is why we have built an launched the world's 1st Fully Decentralized gambling game and made it live.

While others write whitepapers, we deliver and launch production ready code.  Wink

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After the ICO we are moving from PoC stage to Beta Then our priority is:
Faster blockchain betting times. We already have them down to 5s on the test-net.
More betting options.
Site design. It's all coming after ICO

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November 21, 2016, 09:34:22 AM
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ETH will help the project, because many whale ETH investors, people will invest lots of money in vDICE. Let us see you change the dice world.
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ETH will help the project, because many whale ETH investors, people will invest lots of money in vDICE. Let us see you change the dice world.

Thank you Sir!
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November 21, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.

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November 21, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.



Me too, it is the dice future, btw, it is vdice, not vslice.   Cheesy
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November 21, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
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Since the crypto community is a bunch of gamblers I think this is a perfect combination to become sucessful  Smiley


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I lost it. I'm very unlucky  Cry Cry Cry

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November 21, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
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i bought around 10k vslice tokens....

if the game begins by jan... how much profit can i expect as a dividend in return in ETH?

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November 21, 2016, 02:30:25 PM
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Ok, I went in and bought some Vslice tokens. Hope this project will become a success.



Me too, it is the dice future, btw, it is vdice, not vslice.   Cheesy

No, he is correct, you didn't read the op, is it vslice.

"The object of this Crowdsale is the native token of the vDice game called; ‘vSlice’.

This token is tied directly the the profits of the vDice game. Holders of vSlice tokens receive a share of vDice profit, proportional to the amount of tokens held, in a fair and transparent way.

‘vSlice’ tokens behave as any standard ERC20 token."
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