[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax

[Legionar]

Why you blaming Bittrex you fucking cucks?

You should be looking at  Rhett and Tai Zen instead.....

Pretty sure the SEC will be going after them soon.

Just watch.

Who ?

Bittrex played a main role in this show, they decided to grant Bitcoin Private token ONLY to ZCL holders and NOT to BTC holders for the btcp airdrop.

If they cared about the actual airdrop they would have given it to BTC holders as well, but they didn't, they only needed the P&D,
if they didn't support the airdrop everybody would have withdraw their ZCL from Bittrex and everybody would have the same change of selling the zcl after the snapshot, but instead every single zcl was left on Bittrex and ready to be auto-dumped, bittrex had the edge on that.

But they grant that few hours before snapshot, so majority pulled the coins out. No one knew Bitrex will grant the BTCP. I bought coin at 70 on the dip, not much 15 of them. Now will see price of BTCP.

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[Legionar]

Can we wait for the price of BTCP? I also lost 1200 usd:) bought at 70. What did you really expected ZCL will raise after improved cloned has been made?

[zamans98]

zcl is backing upBTC

not seeing any, are u in an alternate universe???

[zamans98]

ZCL is dead as i predict.
Anyone who not exit this scheme on right time now is deeply fucked with bag of useless coin.

ZCL is still way over the price it was before BTCP announcement. Seems like none of you know how markets work in real life. If you have no idea of investing generally, it's best to be quiet.
Of course the price will go down constantly, because there are massive sell outs and people are competing on the sell orders, so they push the price down.

Did you think this coin will recover in under 48h of the the snapshot? You can say ZCL in dead in 2 months, if the price is 0$. Before that it's useless to talk, especially when people are as ignorant as most of the newbie investors here.

Currently ZCL has a lot of miner support and in POW coin that is really all that matters. POW blockchain is not based on your fiat currency, it is based on the work done by most essential part of the community, miners. If there are no miners there is no value for POW coin. Of course there needs to be development also, but this will be sorted out later. As now ZCL is still a working coin and has no major flaws.

I have stated many times before in this thread, if you don't know how things work, do not invest. If you don't know things work, do not talk about it.

“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”
― Warren Buffett ―

The fak u talking about? Miner support and POW coin, is your basis ? and u believe that really all matters? Seems u need to eat your own words, as you don't know how things work.  LULZ

[G7G]

I lost more than 10 BTC on Fraud coin ZCL

[usamaarham]

i lost 0.5 btc

[Haze The Hobo]

ZCL is dead as i predict.
Anyone who not exit this scheme on right time now is deeply fucked with bag of useless coin.

ZCL is still way over the price it was before BTCP announcement. Seems like none of you know how markets work in real life. If you have no idea of investing generally, it's best to be quiet.
Of course the price will go down constantly, because there are massive sell outs and people are competing on the sell orders, so they push the price down.

Did you think this coin will recover in under 48h of the the snapshot? You can say ZCL in dead in 2 months, if the price is 0$. Before that it's useless to talk, especially when people are as ignorant as most of the newbie investors here.

Currently ZCL has a lot of miner support and in POW coin that is really all that matters. POW blockchain is not based on your fiat currency, it is based on the work done by most essential part of the community, miners. If there are no miners there is no value for POW coin. Of course there needs to be development also, but this will be sorted out later. As now ZCL is still a working coin and has no major flaws.

I have stated many times before in this thread, if you don't know how things work, do not invest. If you don't know things work, do not talk about it.

“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”
― Warren Buffett ―

The fak u talking about? Miner support and POW coin, is your basis ? and u believe that really all matters? Seems u need to eat your own words, as you don't know how things work.  LULZ

Go check the garbage if you left your brains there while taking the trash out.

That means you cannot claim POW coin dead by it's price. Blockchain activity is really the thing that matters in crypto as cryptos existence is not based on fiat currencies.

Seems like you don't even know the history of BTC. Do you think Satoshi or any of the early supporters thought BTC would be 10k$ or peaking at almost 20k$ in 10 years? Back in the days all was based on idealism and the work done by certain group of people, not on money.

[lexx_runner]

Hello! Everyone. Explain another point - - - to get btcp on bittrex it was enough to have zcl on the purse during fork (snapshot) or coins zcl should have been lying on the purse a certain time before the fork and after ?

[sverox]

@Haze The Hobo

Get back to the real world.
Idealism, blockchain, decentralization is maybe was in first year birth of bitcoin.
Currently everything in crypto is controlled by few big exchanges. Actually these exchanges convert bitcoin (and all other cryptos) to ponzi schemes. Oldcomers get $$$ money of newcomers.

[CanErik]

Hello! Everyone. Explain another point - - - to get btcp on bittrex it was enough to have zcl on the purse during fork (snapshot) or coins zcl should have been lying on the purse a certain time before the fork and after ?

Hi;

If it was not in withdrawal procces, you will have BTCP.

Kind regards

[BobTrade]

guys ZCL will backup soon!

[lexx_runner]

I had coins zcl, now, I hope, there will be coins btcp. Will I lose $ as a result

[VanDeinsberg12]

I had coins zcl, now, I hope, there will be coins btcp. Will I lose $ as a result

You will if you were buying when the price of each ZCL above $100 and then you were losing almost 90% from your initial investment. I was learning a lot from NXT and it will be difficult back again to the $100 rate. This is not FUD or something like that but I was seeing NXT as the best example which has a similar case with zclassic.
A week ago the price was more than $100 and this time it goes down a lot.


That makes me surprised.

[BillionDollarMan]

@Haze The Hobo

Get back to the real world.
Idealism, blockchain, decentralization is maybe was in first year birth of bitcoin.
Currently everything in crypto is controlled by few big exchanges. Actually these exchanges convert bitcoin (and all other cryptos) to ponzi schemes. Oldcomers get $$$ money of newcomers.

Definitely, exchanges are the bankers of tomorrow and will carry legacy of rothschild n rockefeller. Buttrex did clearly visible insider trading scam and nothing gonna happen at all.

[lexx_runner]

how much will it cost btcp???

[adiebitsler]

guys ZCL will backup soon!

I also hope so, because ZCL is very far down from the resistant that I studied
like plunging into the abyss

[snowyNNN]

guys ZCL will backup soon!

I also hope so, because ZCL is very far down from the resistant that I studied
like plunging into the abyss

There was no resistance to study!

The value of ZCL was high because of the forking to give BTCP´s.

The reception of BPrivate wasn´t what was originally expected, so the ZCL value began to drop even before the fork.
Bittrex only begrudgingly sorta supports the fork by giving zcl holders Btcp , but they will not list BTCP for trading nor will they honour bitcoin holders on their exchange with free Btcp.

ZCL will eventually in a month or to return to a few dollar value range or there abouts. Or this new awareness might keep it at let´s say 5-25 dollar range.
It is still a great coin and I will buy back plenty of Zclassics when they´re cheap again.

[xs2k]

Instead of going through 201 pages, can someone give me cliff notes of why this dropped back to earth? 

[Legionar]

Instead of going through 201 pages, can someone give me cliff notes of why this dropped back to earth? 

Because of BTCP which will be 300$

[nemanja90]

That was a world class pump & dump scheme orchestrated by Bittrex and probably a huge zcl whale.  

I agree with all words U wrote! Big P&D!

But there is not Bitcoin private out yet? We all knew there will dump.  I don't get why complaining? Lets see the price of BTCP.

Yes, but not so often as ZCL. BTC was rising, at that time ZCL got from 135 to 90 usd and then suddenly it jump to 120! ZCL fork was Pump and Dump game for big players! Why ZCL isnt fall to 2 usd after snapshoot? It fell slowly and to 22 usd and then jumped to 37, tell me what is it?