[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax

[muf18]

I guess that ZCL price will hit about 1 $   while the BTCP can be about 100 $ at start .. later it can be about 60 -80 $ ... Such prices should be very real.

even in it's worst crypto markets zclassic has not been below $1.2 for a long time. If it goes back down to $2 I would be a heavy speculator then again.

It was less than one dollar form 30 nov 2016 till march 2017 ... Actually the price starts to rise when the fork was announced.

Yeah, I recognize these months ago, dev is just pump and dumper, with other family and friends pump and dumpers, first let down everyone, than buy, when everybody is selling, than create announcement, and hype the sht out of it, then dump, because BTCP, can't even go on bittrex, so it's value will be much less. Rinse and repeat (at least with Zencash they were added to bittrex).

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[gzubeck]

I guess that ZCL price will hit about 1 $   while the BTCP can be about 100 $ at start .. later it can be about 60 -80 $ ... Such prices should be very real.

even in it's worst crypto markets zclassic has not been below $1.2 for a long time. If it goes back down to $2 I would be a heavy speculator then again.

It was less than one dollar form 30 nov 2016 till march 2017 ... Actually the price starts to rise when the fork was announced.

Yeah, I recognize these months ago, dev is just pump and dumper, with other family and friends pump and dumpers, first let down everyone, than buy, when everybody is selling, than create announcement, and hype the sht out of it, then dump, because BTCP, can't even go on bittrex, so it's value will be much less. Rinse and repeat (at least with Zencash they were added to bittrex).

Nope. If they've got millions of coins from bitcoin they will list bitcoin private. How else are they going to sell them for tens of millions of dollars.

[denis1995]

I have 140 zcl how much i btcshit i wil recieve?

depends? if you we're on bittrex you should get it all if holding zclassic. If you we're holding bitcoin your SOL. they will get to keep all the btcp for those holding bitcoin. Nothing like windfall profits for exchanges.

Yes Im on bittrex when is the release date?

[ssvenss]

I have 140 zcl how much i btcshit i wil recieve?

depends? if you we're on bittrex you should get it all if holding zclassic. If you we're holding bitcoin your SOL. they will get to keep all the btcp for those holding bitcoin. Nothing like windfall profits for exchanges.

Yes Im on bittrex when is the release date?

It is very unlikely that large exchanges will be licked with such coins, zclassic is a fork with a low volume of daily trading, there is no exchange in this interest

[shogun47]

I have 140 zcl how much i btcshit i wil recieve?

depends? if you we're on bittrex you should get it all if holding zclassic. If you we're holding bitcoin your SOL. they will get to keep all the btcp for those holding bitcoin. Nothing like windfall profits for exchanges.

Yes Im on bittrex when is the release date?

It is very unlikely that large exchanges will be licked with such coins, zclassic is a fork with a low volume of daily trading, there is no exchange in this interest

What do you mean by licked with such coins? You shouldn't forget that crypto exchanges are probably the largest whales in the whole crypto game. That in turn leads to them having quite a significant interest in supporting forks as they can also dump those coins they freely received.

[promomei]

buy back orders set at 0.01 $ 

[lanceajones]

I did everything per the book in depositing my coins in ZCL Electrum as they stated was preferred and did not receive any BTCP coins. Guess I should have just sold them as they became almost worthless once the hard fork was finished. Too bad is seems like the team has either not completed the drop of the new coins or it isn't going to happen.

Luckily this was old coins I bought long ago so didn't lose too much money, but still a bit frustrating. Will try and work with BTCP support team if it doesn't appear in a few more days, but thought it should be almost instant?
 

[kaszebe1]

Nope. If they've got millions of coins from bitcoin they will list bitcoin private. How else are they going to sell them for tens of millions of dollars.

I think Rhett mission is complete for him. He earn money dumping his ZCL.  Maybe he still have small amount of zcl  in case btcp would be worth something ... But i think he don't belive in BTCP success.

Actually i don't belive that literally any big fish in cryptomarket belives in all that bullshit about decentralization and revolution in finance .. They just want to sell you computer tokens , and they want you to play in this cyber casino cause they have commision of your every move in it.

I dont have ANY coins right now and belive me ... im feeling more comfortable than when i had cryptos.

The ability of changing cryptos to fiat money kills all the idea and change the whole thing into gambling.

[TheHas]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled. 

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

[ZACKDCRISTO]

Nope. If they've got millions of coins from bitcoin they will list bitcoin private. How else are they going to sell them for tens of millions of dollars.

I think Rhett mission is complete for him. He earn money dumping his ZCL.  Maybe he still have small amount of zcl  in case btcp would be worth something ... But i think he don't belive in BTCP success.

Actually i dont belive that literally any big fish in cryptomarket belives in all that bullshit about decentralization and revolution in finance .. They just want to sell you computer tokens , and they want you to play in this cyber casino cause they have commision of your every move in it.

I dont have ANY coins right now and belive me ... im feeling more comfortable than when i had cryptos.

The idea of changing cryptos to fiat money kills all the idea and change the whole thing into gambling.

The truth has been spoken

[Johnny00]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled. 

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

[oldbit]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled.  

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of  guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

[ZClassic]

Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

[TheHas]

Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

So turns out my question about future (and non-existent) plans for zclassic was right - there currently isn't a development team, but looks like some developers are willing to take over the project.

Any developer who is willing to takeover a coin that does not include a mining reward for developers or other benefits should be looked on favourably by the community!

But in answer to your question, I don't think there are any active discussions regarding the formation of a new team.

[Emilrrr]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled.  

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of  guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

[Haze The Hobo]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled.  

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of  guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

[welpboy]

Forming a new ZClassic Development Team

Hello all,
Myself and a small group of developers are interested in carrying on the development of ZClassic, and taking over these responsibilities as a new development team.

As we understand, the current/previous team will no longer be developing ZClassic, and will instead now focus on Bitcoin Private.

I'd like to ask: Is anyone is aware of active discussions regarding the formation of a new development team for ZClassic?

Myself and a few others are working on forming the new development team.
Would any developers be interested in becoming a part of this new team?

I am also contacting the previous ZClassic developers to let them know of our interest.

Please feel free to respond here or private message me regarding this.
Thanks and kind regards!

We do support you, however could you provide more info about yourselves? I hope this is not an attempt to trick the community.

[Emilrrr]

I wonder what will happen with zclassic once all the bitcoin private hype has settled down. Presumably any developers and active community members would move to work on btcp rather than stay with zclassic?

Nah, my orders are still unfilled. You need to try harder on your fearmongering. The fork already happened followed by the huge dump. There are some still holding on to their bought coins at the top. Let see how long can they wait.

Apparently the market is being cornered down. see 2-5btc sell orders appearing just a few orders higher than the top bid. Will not take long before my orders got filled.  

Not trying to fearmonger, I am legitimately curious what the future holds for zclassic now that bitcoin private is live. I mean, is there an updated whitepaper, list of key developers with plans for zclassic, any detail on next steps etc.

Also I remember zclassic was a few bucks before the bitcoin private news, so without updates on plans for zclassic, I don't see why it wouldn't drop back to these levels.

The same thing as with zen. It does until they fork another shit coin. This is Google to $2 then they will fork another one.

Feel bad for the bag holders

Any coin with rhett creighton on board should be ignored. That idiot is a walking disaster and scammer. Look at all his launched coin, nothing serious, no future and baiting investors knowing he is not committed to full development. I really am in favor of incarcirating him so his modus will come to an end. This has got to stop. Jail. Let him be the example to all these scammers.

Let the scam developers/creators know that there is a responsibility behind their creation and they cannot just walk away without facing the consequences. That way we can clean the cryptos of  guys like this idiot rhett.

It's time for the regulators to put crypto in its proper place and scammers behind bars. Set rhett creighton as an example to wipe that scammer smile off his scammer face.

Hello, I fully support you. I can only say that we, some of the guys, are already collecting materials for a lawsuit. I think they can not easily spend our money.

Lawsuit for what, you being stupid? Market took your money, not the developers. It's your own fault, if you didn't see the red warnings signs with huge letters saying "MASSIVE DUMP AFTER SNAPSHOT, BE READY TO SELL FAST OR LOSE YOUR MONEY". It was clear ZCL is going to crash.. I just cannot believe how stupid and greedy people can be. Never buy anything when the price is at it's peak.

You got FOMO reaction and just had to buy while the price was rocketing. Nothing new to crypto world, you just have to learn from your mistakes.

I have nothing to buy, but who are you? One of the developers or the lawyer Rhett? I guess you're connected to them or even one of them. You
Call your investors stupid? You're a real crook. And as for the lawsuit, you said correctly that the market took money and not the developers or Rhett. Yes you are not directly connected, but here you are guilty of another and I will not discuss the details with a scammer like you who laughs at deceived investors. A group lawsuit will be filed and we'll see which one of us is stupid.

[n0rd]

Ouch!

[gzubeck]

The only people that have a right to complain are the ones who didn't get their bitcoin private coins when they had them parked in their wallets.. I do think that there should have been ample time for coin buyers to learn what exchanges we're going to carry the coin after the fork. The general vagueness about information could be construed as a form of fraud if the team doesn't come forward with more info soon.