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March 04, 2017, 03:11:55 AM
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After full 24++ hours -- my farm is all green with SRR!

I know of 1 or 2 problematic rigs that would turn red after a day or two -- and I could see that SRR dealt with it!

I have 33 rigs and 30 are connected to 4 units of SRR in a single network environment.

My settings :
0 seconds / disabled for watchdog max delay
3mins long reset.
Save and write the above info to SRR.
Set the rig details in smOS SRR menu.

After further clarifications from Tytanick -- I now understand how this gadget works.

Very simple solution made into a product. Easier said than done though.

Glad that Tytanick made the effort to make this product a reality.

More improvements to come - I hope the features discussed in the thread will be in next release

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March 04, 2017, 08:27:30 AM
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After full 24++ hours -- my farm is all green with SRR!

I know of 1 or 2 problematic rigs that would turn red after a day or two -- and I could see that SRR dealt with it!

I have 33 rigs and 30 are connected to 4 units of SRR in a single network environment.

My settings :
0 seconds / disabled for watchdog max delay
3mins long reset.
Save and write the above info to SRR.
Set the rig details in smOS SRR menu.

After further clarifications from Tytanick -- I now understand how this gadget works.

Very simple solution made into a product. Easier said than done though.

Glad that Tytanick made the effort to make this product a reality.

More improvements to come - I hope the features discussed in the thread will be in next release


Hi.
You can check which rigs rebooted by going to dashboard and fovering over "ONLINE" - you will see uptime.

Also if you have 0 seconds max delay in resetter then its disabled.
So if you want to use it then you need to writle like 250 here ? You know that right ?

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March 05, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
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There will be very soon New version of SRR Tool + Firmware

Things that will be changed:
- instead of RED/GREEN circles there will be LIST also RED/GREEN with possibility to write custom names near each rig. Those info will be saved in SRR Tool directory. (wont be on device itself)
- max watchdog delay increased from 250 seconds to 2500 seconds (some windows rigs on HDD needs more time to boot up and 250 isnt enough for them)
- access to SRR via website (more and more functions will be with every release) - for now most crucial like on/off/reboot/long/reboot and status view.

Logic of auto rebooting rigs:
Curently: after timeout of "watchhdog delay" SRR will do fast reboot, again wait specified number of seconds in "watchdog delay" and so on......
New Logic: First 4 times it will fast reset rig, then if it still wont receive any keepallive packets it will be doing infinite number of times cold reset ( also name changed from "long reset" to "cold reset" as it is more obvious.)

The question is:
What is most desired behaviour for auto rebooting rigs ?
4 times fast reset and then infinite long resets is good choice ?
Ofcourse if after 2nd reset rig will be allive then in next failure it will start from the beginning: 4 fast resets and infinite cold resets.
Or some other configuration ? If you have other idea then tell me why you think that ?
Of confirm that you think its ok ?

Also if you have other requests and ideas and i forgot to write them down, please tell me or remind me Smiley



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There will be very soon New version of SRR Tool + Firmware

Things that will be changed:
- instead of RED/GREEN circles there will be LIST also RED/GREEN with possibility to write custom names near each rig. Those info will be saved in SRR Tool directory. (wont be on device itself)
- max watchdog delay increased from 250 seconds to 2500 seconds (some windows rigs on HDD needs more time to boot up and 250 isnt enough for them)
- access to SRR via website (more and more functions will be with every release) - for now most crucial like on/off/reboot/long/reboot and status view.

Logic of auto rebooting rigs:
Curently: after timeout of "watchhdog delay" SRR will do fast reboot, again wait specified number of seconds in "watchdog delay" and so on......
New Logic: First 4 times it will fast reset rig, then if it still wont receive any keepallive packets it will be doing infinite number of times cold reset ( also name changed from "long reset" to "cold reset" as it is more obvious.)

The question is:
What is most desired behaviour for auto rebooting rigs ?
4 times fast reset and then infinite long resets is good choice ?
Ofcourse if after 2nd reset rig will be allive then in next failure it will start from the beginning: 4 fast resets and infinite cold resets.
Or some other configuration ? If you have other idea then tell me why you think that ?
Of confirm that you think its ok ?

Also if you have other requests and ideas and i forgot to write them down, please tell me or remind me Smiley


T - can you consider the following features:

1. counter/countdown displayed for circles/rigs that has begun reset/power-cycle process. This way, at dashboard we can see what process has begun and have taken place. This is key for troubleshooting. WIthout this, I dont even know if SRR is working or running -- and assume its working. Over at smOS web dashboard, it would have been nice to have the power/reset control available but as explained by you -- smOS don't communicate with SRR.

2. for me, when SRR need to be activated on a rig that means miner has failed to restart the miner on its own, meaning problem may be related to other than miner, eg. memory leaks/corruption, network issues etc. Instead of reset, I would almost certainly prefer power cycle -- meaning power down and x minutes late power up.

3. When running Claymore miners, I also have his monitoring utility running in the background. This way I keep tabs with whats going on at miner app level. Claymore can also do run bat file when miner hangs due to oppencl errors - not sure how you plan to use this current utility to somewhat compatible with SRR for Claymore miners only. Maybe this is not necessary but his utility has many key info like how many times the miner resetted, how many time pool failovered etc.

4. I have re-arranged my SRR units and slot numbering again so that I didnt miss anything - so that I can correctly activate all SRRs to value more than 0 for wd delay; but I think I really need the "2500 secs" watchdog delay because my non-RX cards are STILL being triggered to reset unnecessarily (or too early). I cant figure out why this situation doesnt effect my RX480 rigs -- they respond well to SRR even at 250 secs. I can only conclude this may be how my network environment is laid out. So looking forward to the v2 fo SRR and enhancements.


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T - can you consider the following features:

1. counter/countdown displayed for circles/rigs that has begun reset/power-cycle process. This way, at dashboard we can see what process has begun and have taken place. This is key for troubleshooting. WIthout this, I dont even know if SRR is working or running -- and assume its working. Over at smOS web dashboard, it would have been nice to have the power/reset control available but as explained by you -- smOS don't communicate with SRR.

2. for me, when SRR need to be activated on a rig that means miner has failed to restart the miner on its own, meaning problem may be related to other than miner, eg. memory leaks/corruption, network issues etc. Instead of reset, I would almost certainly prefer power cycle -- meaning power down and x minutes late power up.

3. When running Claymore miners, I also have his monitoring utility running in the background. This way I keep tabs with whats going on at miner app level. Claymore can also do run bat file when miner hangs due to oppencl errors - not sure how you plan to use this current utility to somewhat compatible with SRR for Claymore miners only. Maybe this is not necessary but his utility has many key info like how many times the miner resetted, how many time pool failovered etc.

4. I have re-arranged my SRR units and slot numbering again so that I didnt miss anything - so that I can correctly activate all SRRs to value more than 0 for wd delay; but I think I really need the "2500 secs" watchdog delay because my non-RX cards are STILL being triggered to reset unnecessarily (or too early). I cant figure out why this situation doesnt effect my RX480 rigs -- they respond well to SRR even at 250 secs. I can only conclude this may be how my network environment is laid out. So looking forward to the v2 fo SRR and enhancements.


1. See what i can do, its good feature.
About controlling SRR i will be getting into it, i have 2 concepts of doing that and i will implement one or even two of them.
a) sending commands that for example to shutdown rig number 1 but sending this command thru another working rig.
b) it is propably possible to make SRR comunicating with my SimpleMiningOS dashboard, i will look into this mater and see if i can implement it but dont know ETA.

2. In my case, like 80% problems are solved by fast restart, and only some like 20% need cold reset (shutdown, wait 5 minutes, power on)
I will check if i can implement some kind of feature to preset this by own needs.

3. If gpu error occurs AND you have set (-w1 -r1 in command) the  it will run reboot.sh in which there are special commands that will FORCE REBOOT your rig, and this is working pretty well most cases.
In some cases if this will freeze rig, then now SRR kicks in by not getting keep allive messages.
So in other words, software on rig side can solve most of problems and doest that, but if it fails and the rigs wont send keepallive message within specified number of seconds then in second line SRR starts rebooting.
I think that we dont need to make it compatible as every of those features works on different level (first software reboot, and if it wont help then SRR hardware fast reboot and if it 4 tome fails then hardware cold reboot)
Isnt that best idea ?
I will try to make SRR restarts counter, but i will also do the restarts counter in SMOS dashboard which will be looking at rig uptime, if in next report rig will show less uptime than last one - it means reboot.
I was thinking about it and i will do this.

4. 2500 seconds will be in this next release. already doing that.
Also i might know why R OS is booting longer.
Its booting Graphical enviroment and THEN it starts running SRR agent. It takes lot more time.
in RX OS there is no graphical interface so the booting process is much faster.
I thing i can speed up this agent script under R OS so you wont have this issue. thx for reporting.

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Hi T - when is the ETA on the new firmware the updated new features?

The 250sec max WD delay is not working well on my R cards but no issues for the RX cards.

I distributed the SRRs according to GPU types, but one SRR unit is managing RX and R cards - I have disabled that SRR for now because it's resetting the R cards at random. Hope I can enable it soon so that the whole farm can achieve 100% uptime.

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Hi T - when is the ETA on the new firmware the updated new features?

The 250sec max WD delay is not working well on my R cards but no issues for the RX cards.

I distributed the SRRs according to GPU types, but one SRR unit is managing RX and R cards - I have disabled that SRR for now because it's resetting the R cards at random. Hope I can enable it soon so that the whole farm can achieve 100% uptime.

Thanks

Hi. It wannt problem of long start Smiley
After all i made mistake and package that needs to be present for sending keepallive packets was installed only in RX version.
v1075 SimpleMiningOS fixes that !

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Last edit: March 08, 2017, 02:37:29 AM by citronick
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Hi T - when is the ETA on the new firmware the updated new features?

The 250sec max WD delay is not working well on my R cards but no issues for the RX cards.

I distributed the SRRs according to GPU types, but one SRR unit is managing RX and R cards - I have disabled that SRR for now because it's resetting the R cards at random. Hope I can enable it soon so that the whole farm can achieve 100% uptime.

Thanks

Hi. It wannt problem of long start Smiley
After all i made mistake and package that needs to be present for sending keepallive packets was installed only in RX version.
v1075 SimpleMiningOS fixes that !

Aha! I have activated all SRR units and running them overnight -- looking good so far!


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Just ordered one shipping to the US was $22 ouch , to do all 30 rigs would cost me a fortune, for now i have 10 problem rigs i will test these on

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Just ordered one shipping to the US was $22 ouch , to do all 30 rigs would cost me a fortune, for now i have 10 problem rigs i will test these on
Ok.
At the beginning of April there will be Extension Boards available.
So you can add this to your SRR in April Smiley

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Hi T - when is the ETA on the new firmware the updated new features?

The 250sec max WD delay is not working well on my R cards but no issues for the RX cards.

I distributed the SRRs according to GPU types, but one SRR unit is managing RX and R cards - I have disabled that SRR for now because it's resetting the R cards at random. Hope I can enable it soon so that the whole farm can achieve 100% uptime.

Thanks

Hi. It wannt problem of long start Smiley
After all i made mistake and package that needs to be present for sending keepallive packets was installed only in RX version.
v1075 SimpleMiningOS fixes that !

Aha! I have activated all SRR units and running them overnight -- looking good so far!


All green -- I am happy.

Now I dont worry too much when I am away from farm.

New goal for farm is 100% uptime.

Those who experience expensive shipping or find SRR too expensive...

.... I think the downtime saved in a week can be translated to savings enough to justify SRR investment.

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T - 2 small request to be included in next release... thanks

Request #1
can you include a small utility that shows all the red/green dots in a single dashboard for ALL detected SRRs in a network environment?
Programming wise this is quite logical to do -- hope you can include this simple "SRR Network Dashboard" --- its useful for miners that have several SRRs in a network.
Shown as a single dashboard for easy monitoring -- the admin will know the state of health for the farm.

Request #2
If a slot is not used, can it be colored BLACK (or some meaningful color to represent UN-USED).... so that RED means slot taken and offline and needs SRR attention, and GREEN is all is well.

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T - 2 small request to be included in next release... thanks

Request #1
can you include a small utility that shows all the red/green dots in a single dashboard for ALL detected SRRs in a network environment?
Programming wise this is quite logical to do -- hope you can include this simple "SRR Network Dashboard" --- its useful for miners that have several SRRs in a network.
Shown as a single dashboard for easy monitoring -- the admin will know the state of health for the farm.

Request #2
If a slot is not used, can it be colored BLACK (or some meaningful color to represent UN-USED).... so that RED means slot taken and offline and needs SRR attention, and GREEN is all is well.

All status you have in simplemining.net dashboard, isnt that ok ?
All SRR in one dahboard it would be hard. I can make smaller window to run more windows on the same screen.

Colored black, idea is ok but i ned to check if its even possible.
I need to ask my friend if this can be done - propably not.
Status is taken by checking if 5V is present or not.

Anyway better would be "disabling" slot"

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T - 2 small request to be included in next release... thanks

Request #1
can you include a small utility that shows all the red/green dots in a single dashboard for ALL detected SRRs in a network environment?
Programming wise this is quite logical to do -- hope you can include this simple "SRR Network Dashboard" --- its useful for miners that have several SRRs in a network.
Shown as a single dashboard for easy monitoring -- the admin will know the state of health for the farm.

Request #2
If a slot is not used, can it be colored BLACK (or some meaningful color to represent UN-USED).... so that RED means slot taken and offline and needs SRR attention, and GREEN is all is well.

All status you have in simplemining.net dashboard, isnt that ok ?
All SRR in one dahboard it would be hard. I can make smaller window to run more windows on the same screen.

Colored black, idea is ok but i ned to check if its even possible.
I need to ask my friend if this can be done - propably not.
Status is taken by checking if 5V is present or not.

Anyway better would be "disabling" slot"


#1 -- yeah - small window so that i can fit 5-6 windows OR do Windows side by side OR windows stacked position. As long as the farm admin can see "state of the farm" in real time.
Currently, I would need toggle to each SRR window to see what going on. thanks for considering this for customers who are using more than 1 x SRR

#2 -- disable is OK, but keep the position of the circle.... so that it looks more obvious that a slot is UN-USED.

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How to connect 4 pins to motherboard (Biostar Racing Z170-GT7)



Currently I have paired the following pin numbers according to the 4 wires from cable to the SRR unit.

White = pin 13
Yellow = pin 14
Brown = pin 15
Green = pin 16

I couldn't power on the rig from SRR from idle/OFF status. Ideas?

Did I miss anything?

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LED STATUS:
13 = Yellow
11 or 12 = White


Power ON/OFF (you need to chekc both becasue there is no description where is - and +)
14 = Brown
15 = Green
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14 = Green
15 = Brown

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How to connect 4 pins to motherboard (Biostar Racing Z170-GT7)



Currently I have paired the following pin numbers according to the 4 wires from cable to the SRR unit.

White = pin 13
Yellow = pin 14
Brown = pin 15
Green = pin 16

I couldn't power on the rig from SRR from idle/OFF status. Ideas?

Did I miss anything?

NOTE: I have however successfully integrated 28 rigs on ASrock H81-Pro BTC motherboards without any problems.


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March 08, 2017, 12:18:23 PM
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Phil - I have done as per your suggestion earlier, which was the 2 combinations :

W=12 or W=13, and Y=14, B=15, G=16

W=12 or W=13, and Y=14, G=15, B=16

The SRR shows the correct status (GREEN) since the rig is on.

But manually turning it off like the Asrock gives NO RESPOND.

Now, manually turning it rig OFF and getting the SRR to turn it ON ... No Respond.

I guess I have to play with more combinations to get this mobo working with SRR.

Anyone has idea on the the correct pin allocations for this mobo?

Maybe yun9999 has got his working....


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March 08, 2017, 03:44:10 PM
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This is more important than image:



So acording to this 15 and 16 is power on/off
So you have two options:
Brown = pin 15
Green = pin 16
Or'
Brown = pin 16
Green = pin 15

I will work only one way Smiley

Then if LED is working on and showing right status, dont touch it, renember it and leave it Smiley

It MUST work, its a ISO standard that all motherboards have Smiley
Its like plugging Computer Case and plugging in Simple Button that makes shortage on two pins Smiley

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March 08, 2017, 03:52:09 PM
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This is more important than image:



So acording to this 15 and 16 is power on/off
So you have two options:
Brown = pin 15
Green = pin 16
Or'
Brown = pin 16
Green = pin 15

I will work only one way Smiley

Then if LED is working on and showing right status, dont touch it, renember it and leave it Smiley

It MUST work, its a ISO standard that all motherboards have Smiley
Its like plugging Computer Case and plugging in Simple Button that makes shortage on two pins Smiley


The rig is up and connected to SRR (status is green circle).

So I left it alone - since it green and online, and already assigned slot # and rig number at smOS SRR menu.

It should be sending I am alive pings so green circle prooves that.

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