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February 16, 2017, 08:32:38 PM |
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Good thing your btc & vidz got transferred to strong hands. Such is the nature of the game. Good luck
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Megaquake
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February 16, 2017, 09:27:02 PM |
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Dow ends at a new record high for the 6th straight day.
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Mines at Kano.is best profit in the world!
在Kano.is的BTC
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LuckerDog
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February 16, 2017, 09:29:20 PM |
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Dow ends at a new record high for the 6th straight day.
The big players are pumping it up so their shorts will be all the more profitable IMO. We usually have a recession every 7-9 years and we're due for one. Perfect time too with Trump in office . Poor idiot lol.
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ryeis1
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February 16, 2017, 10:45:42 PM |
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I've been following this thread for several weeks now. It is obvious that the people shouting the loudest are far more concerned with being right than with the well being of the project and their fellow traders. I think pv is doing us a favor not replying to all this nonsense. He's trying to usher in the "future of streaming" and has no time to settle playground disputes. He's creating something that could possibly force the entertainment industry to rethink their entire outdated model while all we do is cry about the value of our precious coins!
PV specifically said he would let us know when he has something "concrete" to show. He also said that an update was planned for the 25th, not the 15th. So until midnight of the 26th, it's all speculation. Holders gonna hold. Dumpers gonna dump. Why is it so important to some of you to win an argument with strangers on the internet? As brilliant as you all present yourselves to be, haven't you figured out by now that arguing online is the biggest waste of time in the modern age?
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ankylotic
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February 16, 2017, 10:58:37 PM |
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I've been following this thread for several weeks now. It is obvious that the people shouting the loudest are far more concerned with being right than with the well being of the project and their fellow traders. I think pv is doing us a favor not replying to all this nonsense. He's trying to usher in the "future of streaming" and has no time to settle playground disputes. He's creating something that could possibly force the entertainment industry to rethink their entire outdated model while all we do is cry about the value of our precious coins!
PV specifically said he would let us know when he has something "concrete" to show. He also said that an update was planned for the 25th, not the 15th. So until midnight of the 26th, it's all speculation. Holders gonna hold. Dumpers gonna dump. Why is it so important to some of you to win an argument with strangers on the internet? As brilliant as you all present yourselves to be, haven't you figured out by now that arguing online is the biggest waste of time in the modern age?
yes I agree with this and also feel he will show eventually, VIDZ could still be a great project PV has lots of supporters if he comes back
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February 16, 2017, 11:02:39 PM |
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I've been following this thread for several weeks now. It is obvious that the people shouting the loudest are far more concerned with being right than with the well being of the project and their fellow traders. I think pv is doing us a favor not replying to all this nonsense. He's trying to usher in the "future of streaming" and has no time to settle playground disputes. He's creating something that could possibly force the entertainment industry to rethink their entire outdated model while all we do is cry about the value of our precious coins!
PV specifically said he would let us know when he has something "concrete" to show. He also said that an update was planned for the 25th, not the 15th. So until midnight of the 26th, it's all speculation. Holders gonna hold. Dumpers gonna dump. Why is it so important to some of you to win an argument with strangers on the internet? As brilliant as you all present yourselves to be, haven't you figured out by now that arguing online is the biggest waste of time in the modern age?
I agree with this
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jno29
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February 16, 2017, 11:44:27 PM |
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asdalani
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February 16, 2017, 11:47:28 PM |
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Wow, 1,000+ sats down to 634 sats. Looks like something went wrong here lol
What is all this talk of the Dev not being around? I thought there was a couple of dev's? They all left town?
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chronek
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February 16, 2017, 11:59:16 PM |
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it not looks like exchange, so rather some whale buyout whole vidz, 100 btc on wallet, when vidz hit 10k satoshi he will have like 1,6k btc then he will buy lambo or two
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asdalani
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February 17, 2017, 12:02:14 AM |
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it not looks like exchange, so rather some whale buyout whole vidz, 100 btc on wallet, when vidz hit 10k satoshi he will have like 1,6k btc then he will buy lambo or two You're talking about vidz getting to 10k like it went past 5k. As much as I want an expensive VIDZ price, I don't think that it'll come close to 10k sats.
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chronek
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February 17, 2017, 12:21:40 AM |
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it not looks like exchange, so rather some whale buyout whole vidz, 100 btc on wallet, when vidz hit 10k satoshi he will have like 1,6k btc then he will buy lambo or two You're talking about vidz getting to 10k like it went past 5k. As much as I want an expensive VIDZ price, I don't think that it'll come close to 10k sats. Maybe not in 2 days, but if dev show up then vidz will hit 1500, when devs release working api it will hit 3000, if vidz hit polo it will be 10k, if you look at account half month ago was 0, someone constantly buying and not listen fud or he doing fud, or that is dev address, his wallet have 24% of vidz
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jc12345
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February 17, 2017, 12:26:17 AM |
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In theory it does not belong to an exchange unless the exchange purchased the coins. It might however be an account created in the exchange wallet by a user of the exchange. The answer to your question is in the taint analysis. Chainz is one of the best block explorers out there and provides lots of rich information for chain analysis. When coins move it leaves traces of information that can be analyzed. When coins are withdrawn from an exchange they do not necessarily come from the public key that the particular user created on the exchange. Coins during exchange withdrawals come from random public keys in the exchange wallet. This means that one withdrawal could come from multiple exchange accounts debited simultaneously. Interpretation of this means that the only way that accounts can be withdrawn from multiple accounts simultaneously is when all those accounts' private keys are controlled by the same entity. Over time all these traces can be put together and a picture starts to emerge of entities that control certain groups of accounts. In this case if you go to the largest wallets tab you will see that the largest wallet according to taint analysis consist of 12 addresses with coins in them and 466 with zero balances. One entity therefore controls the private keys of 12 stocked accounts. This can be due to 2 reasons: Option 1) More often than not it is safe to say that a very lob-sided number of accounts in contrast to the others are addresses on an exchange. The address you mention forms part of the taint analysis of the 12 and my guess would be with this option that someone has stored 17.7m on an exchange to reduce admin later or to be able to move fast on a rainy day. Option 2) There might have been a skew initial coin distribution coupled with some creative accounting and sloppy coin movements by an individual. What does bother me in this case is that exchange account movements are normally more random but these accounts seem to have been moving through many accounts with more round numbers and blocks of thousands, which is not typical of an exchange. It could therefore be under this option that the top wallet is owned by one individual. The way to find out which option it is, is easy. Each person that has an exchange account must look through the list of accounts linked to the large wallet and if you find it there, then the large wallet is an exchange account. If no-one can find his/her exchange account in the list, then it is an individual's account.
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chronek
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February 17, 2017, 12:35:22 AM |
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The way to find out which option it is, is easy. Each person that has an exchange account must look through the list of accounts linked to the large wallet and if you find it there, then the large wallet is an exchange account. If no-one can find his/her exchange account in the list, then it is an individual's account.
My yobit vidz address is not on list
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February 17, 2017, 12:39:11 AM |
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VIDZ's price is not looking good any more, we need to do some more serious development, otherwise the price will go down gradually, it will be a tragedy if the price is tanking to lower level.
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jc12345
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February 17, 2017, 12:42:21 AM Last edit: February 17, 2017, 12:56:54 AM by jc12345 |
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The way to find out which option it is, is easy. Each person that has an exchange account must look through the list of accounts linked to the large wallet and if you find it there, then the large wallet is an exchange account. If no-one can find his/her exchange account in the list, then it is an individual's account.
My yobit vidz address is not on list When still in early days it could be that there are smaller groups of exchange accounts (including single accounts) when exchange withdrawals have not yet crossed boundaries into other groups of exchange accounts. As soon as that happens those groups become linked. The picture emerges over time. It can therefore be that exchange accounts are not yet linked due to very few withdrawals in the early days. In order to hasten the process artificially, people can make withdrawals to offline accounts and move the coins back. The more movements like that the quicker the links are made, although the explorer only updates about once per day.
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February 17, 2017, 12:58:15 AM Last edit: February 17, 2017, 01:19:47 AM by johncassa |
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In theory it does not belong to an exchange unless the exchange purchased the coins. It might however be an account created in the exchange wallet by a user of the exchange. The answer to your question is in the taint analysis. Chainz is one of the best block explorers out there and provides lots of rich information for chain analysis. When coins move it leaves traces of information that can be analyzed. When coins are withdrawn from an exchange they do not necessarily come from the public key that the particular user created on the exchange. Coins during exchange withdrawals come from random public keys in the exchange wallet. This means that one withdrawal could come from multiple exchange accounts debited simultaneously. Interpretation of this means that the only way that accounts can be withdrawn from multiple accounts simultaneously is when all those accounts' private keys are controlled by the same entity. Over time all these traces can be put together and a picture starts to emerge of entities that control certain groups of accounts. In this case if you go to the largest wallets tab you will see that the largest wallet according to taint analysis consist of 12 addresses with coins in them and 466 with zero balances. One entity therefore controls the private keys of 12 stocked accounts. This can be due to 2 reasons: Option 1) More often than not it is safe to say that a very lob-sided number of accounts in contrast to the others are addresses on an exchange. The address you mention forms part of the taint analysis of the 12 and my guess would be with this option that someone has stored 17.7m on an exchange to reduce admin later or to be able to move fast on a rainy day. Option 2) There might have been a skew initial coin distribution coupled with some creative accounting and sloppy coin movements by an individual. What does bother me in this case is that exchange account movements are normally more random but these accounts seem to have been moving through many accounts with more round numbers and blocks of thousands, which is not typical of an exchange. It could therefore be under this option that the top wallet is owned by one individual. The way to find out which option it is, is easy. Each person that has an exchange account must look through the list of accounts linked to the large wallet and if you find it there, then the large wallet is an exchange account. If no-one can find his/her exchange account in the list, then it is an individual's account. I think the wallet https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vidz/address.dws?13987.htm is on Exchange because if it is compared with the second of rich list https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vidz/address.dws?5269.htm you will notice that the first is not POS while the second yes. The first wallet does not produce POS while the second yes. You can see this from transaction +1.0vidz produced by the POS. But it is also possible that the first wallet was blocked POS. Another strange thing is that the first wallet has all net transactions type +2,000 +1,000 + 700 and this is not the classic deposit on an exchange. If someone has accumulated 17.7Mil of VIDZ is why want to do something big.
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February 17, 2017, 01:23:27 AM |
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It's 30 million, forgot to count the rest of the other 12 accounts.
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ankylotic
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February 17, 2017, 01:23:37 AM |
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In theory it does not belong to an exchange unless the exchange purchased the coins. It might however be an account created in the exchange wallet by a user of the exchange. The answer to your question is in the taint analysis. Chainz is one of the best block explorers out there and provides lots of rich information for chain analysis. When coins move it leaves traces of information that can be analyzed. When coins are withdrawn from an exchange they do not necessarily come from the public key that the particular user created on the exchange. Coins during exchange withdrawals come from random public keys in the exchange wallet. This means that one withdrawal could come from multiple exchange accounts debited simultaneously. Interpretation of this means that the only way that accounts can be withdrawn from multiple accounts simultaneously is when all those accounts' private keys are controlled by the same entity. Over time all these traces can be put together and a picture starts to emerge of entities that control certain groups of accounts. In this case if you go to the largest wallets tab you will see that the largest wallet according to taint analysis consist of 12 addresses with coins in them and 466 with zero balances. One entity therefore controls the private keys of 12 stocked accounts. This can be due to 2 reasons: Option 1) More often than not it is safe to say that a very lob-sided number of accounts in contrast to the others are addresses on an exchange. The address you mention forms part of the taint analysis of the 12 and my guess would be with this option that someone has stored 17.7m on an exchange to reduce admin later or to be able to move fast on a rainy day. Option 2) There might have been a skew initial coin distribution coupled with some creative accounting and sloppy coin movements by an individual. What does bother me in this case is that exchange account movements are normally more random but these accounts seem to have been moving through many accounts with more round numbers and blocks of thousands, which is not typical of an exchange. It could therefore be under this option that the top wallet is owned by one individual. The way to find out which option it is, is easy. Each person that has an exchange account must look through the list of accounts linked to the large wallet and if you find it there, then the large wallet is an exchange account. If no-one can find his/her exchange account in the list, then it is an individual's account. Wow great explanation, thank you sir
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johncassa
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February 17, 2017, 01:32:19 AM |
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It's 30 million, forgot to count the rest of the other 12 accounts.
If a single person or a group of peoples have accumulated 30mil of Vidz then I think the price will rise to 50K. Nobody invests all these BTC if it is not sure that the price will rise.
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