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January 29, 2017, 01:46:07 PM
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Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-)
I don't believe in life after death. It is not possible to prove from a scientific point of view, and all would see and prove the existence to me. We have to live now and to abandon many of the benefits now for the sake of what will happen after I'm not ready.
I don't also believe that there is life after death , because if you are dead the soul will only go in 2 places the heaven and hell, so it is impossible that you will live again. It is written in the bible so that is what I am believing. Anyway, whenever we believe it or not still we will die and that is certain.

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January 30, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.


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January 30, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
I'm sure that after death there will be nothing. Life is given to us only once. If I back out now from any of the goods in order that after death you go to heaven which I think is stupid. Think about it.

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January 30, 2017, 12:57:58 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.

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January 30, 2017, 02:11:58 PM
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Post death existance is completely based on our faith because it's totally immaterial condition, so we can not argue about it with classical logical approach. As for me, I believe in the life after death and existance of heaven and hell but I don't have even a little idea what it'll be like, hence I advice all not to overthink :-)
I don't believe in life after death. It is not possible to prove from a scientific point of view, and all would see and prove the existence to me. We have to live now and to abandon many of the benefits now for the sake of what will happen after I'm not ready.

In the idea our opinions don't confront each other :-) I also believe that arguing about non-proofable issues is ignorance and nothing more.
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January 30, 2017, 02:22:48 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.
I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.
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January 31, 2017, 12:04:38 PM
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We're all afraid of death and if someone talks about death some of us will get goosebumps. Sometimes I am wondering where will I go if I die, Heaven or Hell? I know to myself that I did good things as well as bad things, probably 80% of what I did to my life was bad, well I just want to be honest. Smiley So whether Im going to heaven or hell, I will do whatever I want and live happily, because Life is given just once.

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January 31, 2017, 03:29:15 PM
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We're all afraid of death and if someone talks about death some of us will get goosebumps. Sometimes I am wondering where will I go if I die, Heaven or Hell? I know to myself that I did good things as well as bad things, probably 80% of what I did to my life was bad, well I just want to be honest. Smiley So whether Im going to heaven or hell, I will do whatever I want and live happily, because Life is given just once.

Yes, earthly physical life is given justr once but after that you will enter in eternal spiritual life.
How you will live in this, next life, depends on your life on the earth.
You see, when you are in mother's womb, you have to prepare your body so that you can breathe in the next, physical world.
In the same way, while you live in the physical world, you have to prepare your spiritual ''body'' so that you can breathe in the next, spiritual world.
In spiritual world you can breathe only if you developed love, while you lived on the earth.
If you can't breathe and live in the Heaven, you know where you will go, don't you?

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January 31, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

In my own ideas i don't really believe in reborn or reincarnated because if you do you have the slightest chance to have your past memories because the souls is connected to the brain if your soul is past down by someone you have the same attitude in the past even though you are not interested in christian etc. but i have a theory that when we die we might go to heaven and we don't really know whats in there or whats the nature there but believe me when we die we go to heaven i know its hard to believe it but its real alright when our time comes our answers will be answered my friend but then you have to believe in God in order to solve that big question mark in your head Smiley its possible really Smiley just a simple thing you will add up just believe Smiley
No such thing as reincarnation. Man lives only once. After the death of the dark. The tale of the resurrection seeks to parasitize on the basic human instinct, fear of death. How many terrorists kill people in order to get into a nonexistent heaven!

Yes, you may not believe in re-incarnation or heaven, but you cannot be so definitive about it, nobody can. Do I

believe in reincarnation, no, but I do believe in the soul, and that you are more than simply bone and muscle. Science

cannot explain consciousness, and what you think of when you think of "me", and where that comes from. It has been

said that bodies directly after death weigh slightly less than before death. People that I personally know and trust

have held loved ones, even dogs, and have said that they without a doubt felt their soul leave the body. Where that

soul goes, we can never know for sure.
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February 02, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.
I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.

When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based.
Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use.
As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people"

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February 02, 2017, 07:54:59 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.
I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.

When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based.
Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use.
As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people"
All wars have always involved religion. This is because religious leaders have always cooperated with the state authorities. Therefore, the state supports religious activities. Religion is responsible for war.
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February 04, 2017, 04:42:08 AM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.



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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

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February 04, 2017, 07:43:22 AM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

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You forgot option 3.

3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife.
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February 04, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

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You forgot option 3.

3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife.

the 3rd option is the most possible  of all.
there is nothing after death. its all darkness there, you wouldn't want to live in that dark. notice when someone die in an accident and you look at their eyes wide open yet?

if you are that dead man and you just discover there's life after death and you watch yourself, ain't that painful? pain is never a heaven.  if there's life after death you are just going to remember the ones you left like sons, daughters and you're going to live miserably after death.

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February 04, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

Cool

You forgot option 3.

3. Nothing. You die. End of Story. No afterlife.

the 3rd option is the most possible  of all.
there is nothing after death. its all darkness there, you wouldn't want to live in that dark. notice when someone die in an accident and you look at their eyes wide open yet?

if you are that dead man and you just discover there's life after death and you watch yourself, ain't that painful? pain is never a heaven.  if there's life after death you are just going to remember the ones you left like sons, daughters and you're going to live miserably after death.
I am sure that there is nothing after death. People instinctively fear death and therefore invented the tale in order to limit the temptation to take with them to the light of anyone with whom they quarreled.
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February 05, 2017, 12:52:45 PM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

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You are right, if you want an assurance in life find Jesus in your heart and life. Live with His Words and believe that without Him we are nothing.
We are not perfect that is why if we have Jesus in our hearts then we should not be worry about our after death, and Jesus will be With us because He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

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February 05, 2017, 01:04:09 PM
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Our life wouldn't matter if there is no death. Our consciousness, feelings, relations and wisdom gives us life. I feel that death is not just a bad thing because it can also be our freedom from the materialistic world. But, we may never know what may happen after death unless we our in the process of dying.
Yes, we should not mind what would happen after our death. What we should mind is how can we make our life meaningful. I do not believe on something that I don't see but God. I beleieve in existence if God but the way we are created, I am with science. Same as death, I don't beleieve in souls for the reason that there is no evidence/witness that can prove on its existence. Let's just tend to be nice as we live, be thankful because we do still exist.

Since death is the end of everything that we do and are in this life, there are only two good things that we can do:
1. Find Jesus salvation so that we can live in the next life;
2. Help others find Jesus salvation so that they can live, as well.

Cool
You are right, if you want an assurance in life find Jesus in your heart and life. Live with His Words and believe that without Him we are nothing.
We are not perfect that is why if we have Jesus in our hearts then we should not be worry about our after death, and Jesus will be With us because He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
The most popular person who was resurrected after death is Jesus. But even with him, there is no confirmation. You are not worrying? I think this is proof that there is no life after death does not exist.
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February 05, 2017, 11:25:27 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.
I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.

When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based.
Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use.
As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people"
All wars have always involved religion. This is because religious leaders have always cooperated with the state authorities. Therefore, the state supports religious activities. Religion is responsible for war.

Because religion can guide people very easily. It is very difficult to fool an atheist. But using beliefs you can do things to people. They can vote for the elections to you. You can make them fight.

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February 05, 2017, 11:44:41 PM
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We do not remember the pre-birth. With death we will disappear in our body. Scientifically there is no soul.
So you do not have to worry. You will remember nothing after you die.
I also don't believe in life after death. These stories invented by religious leaders to be able to manage people and asking for money. The funny thing to me is that there are people who change their real life to virtual life after death.

When we look at the history of humanity, wars are generally religion-based.
Like you said, religion is a great device for people to use.
As Marx said, "Religion is the opium of the people"
All wars have always involved religion. This is because religious leaders have always cooperated with the state authorities. Therefore, the state supports religious activities. Religion is responsible for war.

Because religion can guide people very easily. It is very difficult to fool an atheist. But using beliefs you can do things to people. They can vote for the elections to you. You can make them fight.

That's untrue.

Remember USSR and North Korea?

Their populations were/are mostly atheist and they followed their leaders blindly into poverty

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