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February 18, 2017, 05:46:22 PM
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We have body and soul. After death our soul will come out from our crass body. Some philosophers say after death our soul will be vanished. some say that our soul has eternal life so after death it will to the eternal world. Some religions like Hinduism believe that after death our soul will take next birth. Whatever maybe we do not know about our death and the things happen after death.   

Religions propagate such unsubstantiated myths, to make their adherents slaves to the faith. They will say that if you don't donate money to the temple or the church or the mosque, then you will be reborn as an animal. The reason for coming up with this garbage is very clear. They instill a sense of fear in the minds of the retarded religious followers.

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February 18, 2017, 09:46:06 PM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

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February 18, 2017, 09:50:02 PM
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We have body and soul. After death our soul will come out from our crass body. Some philosophers say after death our soul will be vanished. some say that our soul has eternal life so after death it will to the eternal world. Some religions like Hinduism believe that after death our soul will take next birth. Whatever maybe we do not know about our death and the things happen after death.   

Religions propagate such unsubstantiated myths, to make their adherents slaves to the faith.

I like that line^^^. That's exactly what scientists, science media, and universities do when they talk about science theory as though it were fact. These religious entities are becoming stronger and stronger among the lay people of today.

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February 18, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
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I think the religions are the one responsible for these matter. They opened the minds of the people to death and reincarnation which noone really knows.
They say that there will be a god waiting above or whatsoever but for me, dying will be nust the end of my precious life, im not expecting it to be early or late though when it comes, it cant be avoided.
The excitement of dying is knowing something that other people know, it is obviously what happens when someone died.

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February 19, 2017, 02:18:46 AM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.
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February 19, 2017, 02:59:42 AM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

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February 19, 2017, 06:32:50 AM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
Linki 1 says pretty much nothing
Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning.
link 3 is bs
Link 4  breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up
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February 19, 2017, 08:28:09 PM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
Linki 1 says pretty much nothing
Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning.
link 3 is bs
Link 4  breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up

Like I said. You barely can understand things.

God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning.

Cool
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February 19, 2017, 08:30:23 PM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
Linki 1 says pretty much nothing
Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning.
link 3 is bs
Link 4  breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up

Like I said. You barely can understand things.

God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning.

Cool
And that breaks Newtons 3rd law
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February 19, 2017, 08:37:29 PM
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.

Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found.

Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.

Cool

What, a fictional story?

Yeah I agree.

Avatar was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks.    Cool

Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Cheesy Well that would be cool Cheesy .

The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out.

Cool

The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on.

BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda.

Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others.

He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me?

You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth.

Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

Cool

I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. 

Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief.

So what do you do..... sprout your crap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572

All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does.

If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death.

I know I can do that.... but can you?


You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me.

Cool

No.... it's about you.

So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas.

Good working with you!

Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated.

The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God.

Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things.

Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day.

Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God.

Cool

Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to.

That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God".

You appear to be desperate to prove your point.

Good luck squire.

LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how.

However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up.

Cool

Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points.

1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF?
2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF?

Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion.

Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists.

Cool
Linki 1 says pretty much nothing
Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning.
link 3 is bs
Link 4  breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up

Like I said. You barely can understand things.

God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning.

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And that breaks Newtons 3rd law

No it doesn't. Why not? Because Newton's laws only factually apply to things in the universe. If they apply to things outside the universe, we don't know it.

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August 09, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
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Well, We don't know what's the truth behind after death because no one has experienced to die and then go back to life to tell a story how and where we go after we die. But there are lots of sayings that it's like you reincarnate on a different person that you we're like dreaming or something. And some says we go to heaven or hell. I don't know either. But I think the most nearest answer is when reincarnate because sometimes we dream like our dream happened or something we encountered on a different place for example you are dreaming of something like this has happened to me before. Like a dejavu.. Cheesy
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August 09, 2017, 01:26:24 PM
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We don't know what will happen cause we still not experienced it  Grin Grin Grin

but for me, we will go to heaven  Smiley

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August 09, 2017, 06:35:22 PM
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We will never know, and we can't remember our past deaths in other lifes.
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The same thing that happens before you are born, why would it be any different?  Smiley

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My opinion is nothing. Just nothing. We do not even know that we are dying. Do you remember what was before your birth? This will be the same after death. nothing.
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We should not think about premature death after this topic, we should live a good life to cherish the present time, who do not know where we will die, this is God to think about things. Grin
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We should not think about premature death after this topic, we should live a good life to cherish the present time, who do not know where we will die, this is God to think about things. Grin

Many people believes that after death is the next chapter of our life. But I believe that heaven is the place where good people should belong and purgatory to those bad people. But no one can prove that it is correct. Now, we should enjoy our life and we should take care of it. Because no one of us can say when we will be die.

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August 10, 2017, 03:06:39 PM
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My opinion is nothing. Just nothing. We do not even know that we are dying. Do you remember what was before your birth? This will be the same after death. nothing.

In fact, time before our physical birth is good example what will happen with us after physical death.
We live 9 months in mother's womb, in the water, preparing for our life in the physical world.
In order to live in the physical world we have to prepare well in mother's womb, our lungs, so that we can breathe when we are born in the other world, the world of air.
In our ''second '' life, we have to prepare for the life in the ''third'' world, spiritual world.
We can't breathe in spiritual world if we don't have love and therefore we must develop our heart while we are on earth.
When we die in this world, our physical body goes away and we are reborn in spiritual world, where our spirit lives eternally.



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