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January 17, 2017, 10:31:36 AM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion?



As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

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And yet you now move to a point of religion.....

Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others.

Since religion is in the lives of all people, there is no way out of it. Just to post in the forum is a religious talk. It might be philosophical, but it is religious, as well. Since you are talking religion, I am responding in religion.

My post to Tyrantt was about as far as anyone can get from religion.

So, knowing all this, and even talking against it, why do you keep on posting your religious stuff?

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January 17, 2017, 01:38:56 PM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

Seriously, BADecker..... can you not read and respect someone's wishes for an answer which has nothing to do with religion?



As usual, you speak from a standpoint of ignorance. Look at the first response post. It's a non-religious post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756.

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And yet you now move to a point of religion.....

Hijacking much? Feel the need to speak about your religion because it is so worthless when you have been asked not too...... that shows you have no respect for others.

Since religion is in the lives of all people, there is no way out of it. Just to post in the forum is a religious talk. It might be philosophical, but it is religious, as well. Since you are talking religion, I am responding in religion.

My post to Tyrantt was about as far as anyone can get from religion.

So, knowing all this, and even talking against it, why do you keep on posting your religious stuff?

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If you believe me to be religious then I will stop posting to show respect to others.... will you?
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January 17, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

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January 17, 2017, 03:17:25 PM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

Very well said.
We fear from unknown, it's natural.
In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit.
So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God.
It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death.

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January 17, 2017, 04:28:24 PM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

Very well said.
We fear from unknown, it's natural.
In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit.
So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God.
It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death.


Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come.

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January 19, 2017, 12:51:28 AM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

Very well said.
We fear from unknown, it's natural.
In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit.
So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God.
It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death.


Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come.
I think it's about perapective. Do people fear death itself? Or the process of dying? Or the thought of losing whatever they have now? I don't think death should be feared because it's basically inevitable and we're going that path sooner or later. I think what scares most people ia the manner of how they'll meet death. In can be through old age, or an accident , or sickness. I think people who actually believe that there will be a continuation after they die can accept the notion of dying better than those who think that death is already a finality to ecerything

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January 19, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

Very well said.
We fear from unknown, it's natural.
In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit.
So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God.
It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death.


Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come.
I think it's about perapective. Do people fear death itself? Or the process of dying? Or the thought of losing whatever they have now? I don't think death should be feared because it's basically inevitable and we're going that path sooner or later. I think what scares most people ia the manner of how they'll meet death. In can be through old age, or an accident , or sickness. I think people who actually believe that there will be a continuation after they die can accept the notion of dying better than those who think that death is already a finality to ecerything

It is many fears combined. Top among them are...

When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death.

People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.

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January 19, 2017, 05:55:33 AM
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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


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January 19, 2017, 07:23:05 AM
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i have heard many stories about people who die and went to hell or heaven,but at times I personally have been having nightmare of my late mother and in that dream she will tell me something which do happened later physically ,so I believe that when a person dies the spirit in him comes out of his body the body decays into the soil,where the spirit goes depends on the good works the person does while on heart,Christ love you
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January 19, 2017, 07:49:33 AM
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Well all of us here was alive and there is no way for us to identify what will happen after our death , death is a inescapable scenario that every one of us will encounter , This might not be relevant but I will still post that there is a hint given to us by the scriptures what will happen to use after death read John 3:16
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January 19, 2017, 07:53:22 AM
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Anyone fear death. You cannot run if it is your time of death, you must face if it is your time. For me, I believe in after death, we cannot say where does our souls and body goes after death. You should only believe in God, God knows where we will go.

Very well said.
We fear from unknown, it's natural.
In the Bible is said that God created man according to his image. He created our physical body from the dust and our spiritual body from his spirit.
So, when our physical body dies and return to the earth, our spiritual body returns to God.
It's great to know that our soul is eternal and that we will be reunited with our Creator, Heavenly Father, after physical death.


Not everyone fears death. How would you explain those who are trying to kill themselves and are attempting suicide. But take this aside - those who has accepted life and tried to live it do not exactly fear death, at some level they might be scared of it perhaps, but they lived a life of contentment and fulfillment that they welcome death if it is to come.
I think it's about perapective. Do people fear death itself? Or the process of dying? Or the thought of losing whatever they have now? I don't think death should be feared because it's basically inevitable and we're going that path sooner or later. I think what scares most people ia the manner of how they'll meet death. In can be through old age, or an accident , or sickness. I think people who actually believe that there will be a continuation after they die can accept the notion of dying better than those who think that death is already a finality to ecerything

It is many fears combined. Top among them are...

When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death.

People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.

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January 19, 2017, 09:02:40 AM
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It is many fears combined. Top among them are...

When you get a cut, or if you lose a finger, there is usually some pain involved. Same said when you have an operation at the hospital. The body is built with a natural aversion to pain and death.

People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.

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I take it from your comments BADecker that you've been present when many people have died, holding their hand and comforting them in their dying moments. May I ask what line of work you did this in? Or is this simply an opinion based on your own beliefs?

[tongue in cheek] The thing that I fear most in death, is that BADdecker is right and there is a God. I'll have to put up with his religious nonsense for the rest of eternity....yes, that's right, he bet on the wrong God  Wink [/tongue in cheek]
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January 19, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


His laws? What laws? There aren't any.

When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.
Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody.
People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars.
Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not.

That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more.


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January 19, 2017, 02:27:52 PM
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Succumbing to religion. Sigh, nothing ever changes...
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January 19, 2017, 02:36:13 PM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
And what would this prove? I for example do not believe in God or heaven or hell. Religion is a fairy tale for adults which aims to intimidate people and force them to pay off the mythical threat. And after his death a void, but you do not tell us.
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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


His laws? What laws? There aren't any.

When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.
Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody.
People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars.
Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not.

That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more.



In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible.

There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. Smiley


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January 19, 2017, 05:24:22 PM
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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


His laws? What laws? There aren't any.

When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.
Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody.
People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars.
Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not.

That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more.



In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible.

There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. Smiley


After death nothing will happen. I also think a person's life while the human brain alive. I know of no convincing argument to believe in an afterlife. Sure it is a fiction for the purpose of exploitation by the religious instinct of man.
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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


His laws? What laws? There aren't any.

When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.
Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody.
People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars.
Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not.

That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more.



In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible.

There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. Smiley


After death nothing will happen. I also think a person's life while the human brain alive. I know of no convincing argument to believe in an afterlife. Sure it is a fiction for the purpose of exploitation by the religious instinct of man.

The human brain is simply the interface that the real, spiritual, spirit-body human uses to interact with this world. Death will simply cause the person to lose his connection with this world. Many (if not all) of his other spiritual connections will remain intact.

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People who know that they are dying, especially if it happens quickly, like in a car accident where you have only minutes of life left, become very realistic. They put aside their foolish ideals of life, including the fact that God does not exist. They fear having to meet Him, because they know instinctively that they have not obeyed His laws during their lives.



You too, will one day put aside your foolish ideals of your life and realize when you meet the Great One, that you have not obeyed his laws during your life. It will be too late then.


His laws? What laws? There aren't any.

When you reply please try to avoid any assumptions, fallacies or circular logic.

If you believe in Jesus then you go to Heaven, if you don't, you go to Hell.
I can't believe that here we are in 2017 and people still got this ridiculous idea in their head.
Nobody know what happens when we die. Nobody.
People that claim they know what happens and present it as fact are liars.
Speculation what happens is fine of course (we've all done that), claiming it as fact is not.

That's all it ever will be, blind speculation. Nothing more.



In this modern day and age, you seem a little uninformed. Let me make it easy for you, what happens: Clinical death occurs when the person's heartbeat, breathing and circulation stop. Four to six minutes later, biological death occurs. That's when brain cells begin to die from lack of oxygen, and resuscitation is impossible.

There, now you too are informed with knowledge we possess in 2017. Smiley


After death nothing will happen. I also think a person's life while the human brain alive. I know of no convincing argument to believe in an afterlife. Sure it is a fiction for the purpose of exploitation by the religious instinct of man.

The human brain is simply the interface that the real, spiritual, spirit-body human uses to interact with this world. Death will simply cause the person to lose his connection with this world. Many (if not all) of his other spiritual connections will remain intact.

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Interface never manages life support system. You are contrary to the principles of management. If the brain doesn't want to do something then nobody can force you. So the interface itself does not.
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