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February 06, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
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February 06, 2017, 12:58:15 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this life
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February 06, 2017, 02:45:26 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this life

Ya i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death.
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February 06, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this life

Ya i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death.
I wonder if you now erase the memory, you will find that you continue to live? I think not. You will live a new life. This means that only one life. There's a sequel or not is a different life. So why spoil yourself this?
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February 07, 2017, 03:57:44 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this life

Ya i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death.
I wonder if you now erase the memory, you will find that you continue to live? I think not. You will live a new life. This means that only one life. There's a sequel or not is a different life. So why spoil yourself this?
You think its only one life huh, i completely disagree because you ripe what you sow, in this life is trial, and depend on what you doing, you will get punishment or pleasure in the world of after life Smiley
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February 07, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
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I believe in life after death. I also think that we may be reincarnated after such time. I don't think that we just stop at one point and just stay there. This is why I believe in God. I believe that after we die, we get to see him and then we're given a chance to be much better in our next life.
How can you believe in life after death? With the death of the human brain, life stops. Even if she were the life of the soul after death, to live and not be able to communicate with their loved ones is this life

Ya i believe there is life after death too but not for reincarnation because if there is then isnt our life will endless, life > death > reincarnated > life > death.
I wonder if you now erase the memory, you will find that you continue to live? I think not. You will live a new life. This means that only one life. There's a sequel or not is a different life. So why spoil yourself this?
You think its only one life huh, i completely disagree because you ripe what you sow, in this life is trial, and depend on what you doing, you will get punishment or pleasure in the world of after life Smiley
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. I'm sure that after his death the end and nothing. Psychics who communicate with spirits are scammers. They deceive people in order to enrich.
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February 08, 2017, 09:02:17 AM
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I don't believe in the existence of life after death. I'm sure that after his death the end and nothing. Psychics who communicate with spirits are scammers. They deceive people in order to enrich.

So if you think like that then what is the purpose of this life then? Or you mean it had no purpose at all? Hmm about spirit or ghos, i believe thry are excist but i never see it with my own eyes tho Smiley
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February 11, 2017, 12:15:58 AM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

There are other instances of people who had been raised from the dead, but unlike those mentioned before in the Bible, Lazarus had been dead for an entire period of four days. When Lazarus died, Jesus said, “ ‘Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.’ Then His disciples said, ‘Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.’ However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
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February 11, 2017, 10:31:58 AM
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There's been a question that's been bugging me for a long, long time now. What happens when you die? From someones side nothing, other say that your go to their versions of heaven and yet some say that we reincarnate.

That thing got me so bad that a few time's I've been on the verge of killing myself just to see what's happening then, it's killing me to think about it. What are your thoughts? I'm not interested in the christian or virgin filled muslim heaven, I'm interested in your ideas and what are your ideas on what might happen? One theory that stuck with me is that we are born again but in the different time or just born in the same timeline but as soon as you die, you're reborn on some other place.

There are other instances of people who had been raised from the dead, but unlike those mentioned before in the Bible, Lazarus had been dead for an entire period of four days. When Lazarus died, Jesus said, “ ‘Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.’ Then His disciples said, ‘Lord, if he sleeps he will get well.’ However, Jesus spoke of his death, but they thought that He was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
Dude you're quoting he bible here, a book that is not to be taken literally. The story of lazarus may very well be something that has a different meaning and not just about someone raised from the dead. I think we can't really know for sure what is going to happen as even science hasn't proven yet that something else happens to a person who already died

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February 11, 2017, 11:30:26 AM
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The great paradox: to truly know what there is after death, you must first die, and there's no returning from that AFAIK.  Anyone who tries to sell you on something different is full of it.

As far as anyone can actually tell, what's left after death is what you've done in this world, i.e. your legacy.  Most people are completely eradicated from history, they have no names, no faces, only a lineage if that; very few people are worth remembering, and of those who are remembered, are often not even known by most people: you are fortunate to be remembered by anyone long after your death, and sometimes it's just for infamy; I'm sure Hitler didn't want to be remembered as a villain but alas.

If you want to be remembered, you have to do something great.  Everyone knows who Mozart, Bach and Beethoven are, and everyone knows why they are remembered; everyone knows Plato, and Socrates, and Aristotle, though they may not know precisely why they stick out--these guys are several thousand years old and their works are still studied.  I could go on.

As far as anyone can actually tell, the conscious is tied to the passage of time and the senses as perceived by each individual; our thoughts and feelings are a stream, one after the other, and that is who we are; I can say these thoughts are mine, but once I die, I lose the ability to recognize these thoughts are mine and the ability to recognize that I have the ability to recognize these thoughts are mine, and of course I lose the ability to have thoughts at all.  If the conscious is tied to the mind and the mind perishes upon death, and if the world exists outside of our ability to sense it, then one can conclude that the world will continue on without this one eye in the galaxy to perceive its happening, and perhaps perceive this one eye posthumous too, as we perceive other eyes in our history.  Where can the consciousness go without its shell to generate the stream of "me"?--if the ego is tied to this shell and the shell perishes, so does the ego.  Experience depends on a vessel to experience with; no vessel, no experience.

So some say there is a vessel within a vessel that is released upon death, they call this the soul.  Of course there is no evidence of such a thing empirically but I suppose one could make any sort of logical argumentation that a soul is potentially existing.  Some take it on the authority of holy documentation that there is a soul, but I don't think this is any such way to get closer to the truth.  Some feel better knowing they will continue on after death, and take it an offense that one such as myself argues against its existence, but what can you do about that.

And then there are those who think this is all a simulation, and perhaps on death you are awakened from the simulation much like in The Matrix, but again, without empirical evidence of such a thing existing, only logical reasoning, it's not something anyone can really say for sure.

IMO you shouldn't waste life thinking you'll be going somewhere after death; the most certain thing is that you get one life and one chance to do something with it, so don't waste it writing long posts of forums contemplating the potentials of posthumous living.

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February 11, 2017, 12:32:28 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

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February 11, 2017, 01:14:03 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?
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February 11, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it.

I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed.
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February 11, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it.

I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed.

You admit there is no proof, so your assumption of what happens after death is therefore based on faith.

Good for you that you have faith, but that does not make it real.
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February 11, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

I agree, after death is the judgement, depent on what we do in this world, we will going to heaven or hell. So thats the purpose of our life, we must always doing good thing and avoid bad thing so in the next life we wont suffering from punisment. Thats the purpose of all religion, ya if its artheis then they wont believe it.

I dont had proof i never and someone never going to hell or heaven before born here, if everyone ever had going to heaven and hell before born and the memory still intact then i believe everyone who had that memory will always doing good deed.

You admit there is no proof, so your assumption of what happens after death is therefore based on faith.

Good for you that you have faith, but that does not make it real.
Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
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February 11, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.

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February 11, 2017, 04:21:25 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!

And I believe it. I do not want to know that there is nothing after death. I am sure that only the body dies, but the soul of man is immortal.
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February 11, 2017, 07:58:40 PM
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Believers need no evidence. It is enough that they themselves believe. I believe that they are sick. How do sane people can believe in unproven assertions. In addition, these statements are very primitive.
Correct. The hardest part here is explaining someone who doesn't want to know your belief at all or don't mind it anyway.
That is true even if you have proof still they won't believe you because they have their own mindset and their own belief.
We respect them of course as long as they respect ours.
I don't believe in the existence of life after death. There is no evidence of the existence of the afterlife. Psychics who say that know how to talk with spirits they really are just crooks. I do not believe them!

And I believe it. I do not want to know that there is nothing after death. I am sure that only the body dies, but the soul of man is immortal.
There is nothing after death. Emptiness. Do not rely on the afterlife. Live now. It makes no sense to give up existing benefits of life in a fictitious heaven or hell. Even great saints were not born again.
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February 11, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
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After death you will go to the Purgatory, where you will wait for your judgement, at the end of the times. Then you will end up for eternity in Heaven or in Hell.

And your proof of this is what?

The Holy Bible. You will not have much problems searching for the exact pages on the Internet.

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