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May 17, 2018, 11:45:10 PM
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It seems like X16R is the way to go as far as GPU mining is concerned.
I was to port my Equihash kernel to GGS, but with new ASIC's, it's probably not worth it.
Well, I should port it anyway just in case Equihash is included in the X*R algorithm mix...

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May 18, 2018, 06:19:12 AM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
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May 18, 2018, 06:35:43 AM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings
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May 18, 2018, 07:00:35 AM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings

Well, GGS can do that, too... if you put time and effort into it, that is.
I will make things easier for you with the next version, though. LOL

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May 18, 2018, 07:11:18 AM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings

I find your comment rather disgusting. Not all Vegas can achieve 2.1KH/s, the FE can without a doubt, but not even all 64. Same for 580, a lot of them are around 1KH/s, even with the right mem and the "magical strap".

GGS is for any algo slower than the best miner, but Zawawa worls hard to improve it and it's getting better. NHML is much worse than GGS, I still would not qualify it as "crap".
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May 18, 2018, 10:03:55 AM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings

I find your comment rather disgusting. Not all Vegas can achieve 2.1KH/s, the FE can without a doubt, but not even all 64. Same for 580, a lot of them are around 1KH/s, even with the right mem and the "magical strap".

GGS is for any algo slower than the best miner, but Zawawa worls hard to improve it and it's getting better. NHML is much worse than GGS, I still would not qualify it as "crap".

If it was free, I would agree. But it is not, it contains devfee if I'm not mistaken. If you want to have devfee miner you should be sure that it is om par by speed with other available miners and provide strong user experience and support. GGS in not good in both senses so I would call it crap.
And all vega64's with samsung mem can achieve 2.1 kh/s. 
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May 18, 2018, 12:42:43 PM
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Will you be updating the command line version?

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May 18, 2018, 01:21:01 PM
Last edit: May 18, 2018, 03:16:48 PM by zawawa
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings

I find your comment rather disgusting. Not all Vegas can achieve 2.1KH/s, the FE can without a doubt, but not even all 64. Same for 580, a lot of them are around 1KH/s, even with the right mem and the "magical strap".

GGS is for any algo slower than the best miner, but Zawawa worls hard to improve it and it's getting better. NHML is much worse than GGS, I still would not qualify it as "crap".

If it was free, I would agree. But it is not, it contains devfee if I'm not mistaken. If you want to have devfee miner you should be sure that it is om par by speed with other available miners and provide strong user experience and support. GGS in not good in both senses so I would call it crap.
And all vega64's with samsung mem can achieve 2.1 kh/s.  

Well, it's practically free because it's open-source.
You just can't expect "strong user experience and support" without paying for it.
I am doing my best with limited resources, though. We will see...

Edit: I should add I am tremendously grateful for those handful of you who are willing to pay the DEVFEE without
compromising this admittedly naive "business model." See, I have been an open-source developer almost my entire
life, and I just cannot change my heard at this point in my life.

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May 18, 2018, 01:36:46 PM
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Hi Zawawa

Your miner is the best I have tried.
Have a good GUI, more info, more setting and more faster then other.

I have 1 RX Vega 64 and 1 RX 580, and I have 1.7KH/s and 180W for vega and 950H/s and 65W for RX 580, in cryptonight v7.
Maybe I can work a little bit more on setting of my vega.

Thank you so much
you should have 2.1kh/s@160watt(wall) with vega and 1050-1150h/ @65w (gpu-z) for rx580 with right miner (not this crap) and right settings

This is a terrible statement, especially for new people that think they can achieve those values....  I agree that GGS is not on par with some other miners like SRB for CN given the same conditions however I have numerous 570/580.  Not one has Samsung memory, and not one can reach 1000h/s.  To suggest they can is going to make people do a great deal of unnecessary testing always with the possibility of bricking their card....I would love to see one of my 580s doing over 1000h/s at 65w(even through GPZ and not at the wall)...you would be my hero if you could make a Elpida rx580 4gb ASUS dual OC or a Nitro RX580 OC 4gb Hynix acheive that on CN7....
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May 18, 2018, 01:45:37 PM
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@zawawa

Will you be updating the command line version?

I will. I am just working on it right now.  Wink

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May 18, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
Last edit: May 18, 2018, 04:03:37 PM by heavyarms1912
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@zawawa since you requested comparison.  Here's some numbers from SRB

Vega 56 (Bios modded to V64.  887mV 1477 core and 1100 memory) achieves 2020 H/s


6 x RX580  4GB (Hynix + Elpidas) on Cryptonight Heavy does ~800 per card.  They do 995 (Hynix) and 1030 H/s (Elpidas) on Cryptonight-V7.


I have tried multiple variants of GGS earlier and haven't been able to match these speeds.  
All of them had some sort of issues either during cleanup or launch or would just use too much CPU.  
I will try the command line variant of GGS.  I don't see the point of GUI when there are so many tabs and config you need to take care of.

I appreciate the effort you're putting in to improve the miner.

This is a terrible statement, especially for new people that think they can achieve those values....  I agree that GGS is not on par with some other miners like SRB for CN given the same conditions however I have numerous 570/580.  Not one has Samsung memory, and not one can reach 1000h/s.  To suggest they can is going to make people do a great deal of unnecessary testing always with the possibility of bricking their card....I would love to see one of my 580s doing over 1000h/s at 65w(even through GPZ and not at the wall)...you would be my hero if you could make a Elpida rx580 4gb ASUS dual OC or a Nitro RX580 OC 4gb Hynix acheive that on CN7....

Well.  Here you go 6 x RX580 4GB (5 of them are Elpidas and 1 Hynix) on Cryptonight-V7 (17+ hours)



And just for the kicks here's an RX 570 8gb doing 1260 H/s on Cryptonight-Heavy.
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May 18, 2018, 04:32:22 PM
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@zawawa since you requested comparison.  Here's some numbers from SRB

Very nice! Thank you, thank you. I am all for healthy, fair competition.
This is actually quite exciting for me for some reason...

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May 18, 2018, 05:08:18 PM
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The new code analyzer/optimizer is finally working with the CryptoNight kernel.
Debugging was so painful...

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May 18, 2018, 06:10:03 PM
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@heavyarms1912

You are showing me CNHeavy on an 8gb card. They can do more h/s than a 4gb on CN7.  My 4gb CNHeavy rx580 run 8-850 as well however still less than 1k on CN7.  Those are definately good numbers however the problem with showing a Hynix card doing 1k is that you dont know what card. Some cards are shit and some do very well. My ASUS Dual cards are dialed up higher than yours and acheive less....Most of them can do stable 2050 where you only have 2030.

Unless I am missing something my point still stands due to difference in cards. If you go on anorak.tech there are all kinds of bios that do very well with hynix and some that cannot do well depending on the card as well.

Thanks

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May 18, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
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You are showing me CNHeavy on an 8gb card. They can do more h/s than a 4gb on CN7.  My 4gb CNHeavy rx580 run 8-850 as well however still less than 1k on CN7.  Those are definately good numbers however the problem with showing a Hynix card doing 1k is that you dont know what card. Some cards are shit and some do very well. My ASUS Dual cards are dialed up higher than yours and acheive less....Most of them can do stable 2050 where you only have 2030.

Unless I am missing something my point still stands due to difference in cards. If you go on anorak.tech there are all kinds of bios that do very well with hynix and some that cannot do well depending on the card as well.

Thanks



All my 6 x RX580 are 4gb cards.  And they do more than ~1k on CNV7  (screenshot in previous post).  Even the Hynix ones do (1k tuned for XMR) but I settled for a common strap for ETH+XMR and that's why they are doing ~975. memory is clocked lower because my timings are aggressive. Yup, there are cases where few cards can't clock as high as other ones with similar memory type but every Elpida card I have clocks similarly the core voltage required varies though.  Some are fine with 875mV some need 912mV
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May 19, 2018, 12:40:14 AM
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good job bro i am wait your miner software for new algo criptonight
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May 19, 2018, 06:27:34 AM
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Sure, sure... Well, I need to take a break from the code optimizer.
Let me play with the shiny Sapphire Nitro+ Vega 64...

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May 19, 2018, 01:06:38 PM
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Ok, you need comparison ?

YOUR RX480 8GB SAMSUNG.... Ubermix timing, stock for the rest with 9 hours optimize+memory timing+watchdog running)
As reference, I have 28.4 Mh/s in etash.( Optimize + memorytiming NOT extended)

GGS MoneroV7: 1034 h/s
GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
Srbminer Monero v7 1thread 976 h/s 2threads 1033 H/s
Srbminer Sumokoinv7 1 thread 980 h/s 2 threads 988 h/s

That is what an average guy can do

but:

Rx 580 8gb Micron, PBE 1 click
29.5 Etash vs 31.9 Claymore

GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
SRBMiner Sumokoin 1060 ( and it work at 1300 core!)

So, it seems, that V7 is in par but Heavy is not when is something YOU optimize ( or you have had in hand).
Heavy in SRB is weard, it keep moving between 980 1030 1060. Not always the same card.
Cpu kicks ?  it happened to me in GGS when using ODD numbers of threads/worksize as well.

When something isn't preoptimized, the gap is bigger in Heavy but exist also in v7 smaller



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May 19, 2018, 02:17:32 PM
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Not bad, not bad... I guess I could take care of power consumption later.


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May 19, 2018, 06:33:24 PM
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Ok, you need comparison ?

YOUR RX480 8GB SAMSUNG.... Ubermix timing, stock for the rest with 9 hours optimize+memory timing+watchdog running)
As reference, I have 28.4 Mh/s in etash.( Optimize + memorytiming NOT extended)

GGS MoneroV7: 1034 h/s
GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
Srbminer Monero v7 1thread 976 h/s 2threads 1033 H/s
Srbminer Sumokoinv7 1 thread 980 h/s 2 threads 988 h/s

That is what an average guy can do

but:

Rx 580 8gb Micron, PBE 1 click
29.5 Etash vs 31.9 Claymore

GGS SumokoinV7:670H/s
SRBMiner Sumokoin 1060 ( and it work at 1300 core!)

So, it seems, that V7 is in par but Heavy is not when is something YOU optimize ( or you have had in hand).
Heavy in SRB is weard, it keep moving between 980 1030 1060. Not always the same card.
Cpu kicks ?  it happened to me in GGS when using ODD numbers of threads/worksize as well.

When something isn't preoptimized, the gap is bigger in Heavy but exist also in v7 smaller





This is VERY interesting.. I wonder where I can get Polaris 10 with Micron GDDR5...
I will try to push the next version either today or tomorrow, so you can try an updated optimizer.
I don't know if I should include the new kernels in the GCN assembly, though.
I will do more testing tonight and then decide.

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